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one bill and the 2nd old private cruise to the international space station is blasted off from the kennedy space center in the us, the axioms to us for adults being carried on it on most space. x crew drag and caps, you. it's historic mission including 2 saudi asteroids, and is to be come on to buy one of those headlines more use here on up to 0, the websites without 0 don't com. now it's the bottom line. the a. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a couple of questions. who's more electable joe biden, or donald trump and which one can energize more voters? let's get to the bottom line. the,
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they're both the front runners and their parties for the election next year, and they both are governing with the exact same popularity levels at this time in their presidency, about 40 percent, pretty low, unless the major shift happens in the next few months. this is the choice americans will have either trump or bite and 2 flavors of ice cream on the one hand, a bully who is proud to be a boy and gets admiration for millions of americans for his muscular anti establishment attitude. and on the other, middle is the road liberal, who's not afraid to call out white supremacy as quote, the single most dangerous terrorist threats in our homeland. both say they're fighting for the soul of the nation. so which way will americans go and why? today we're talking with jason miller, who served on trump's last 2 presidential campaigns and just recently joined for the 3rd time as a senior advisor and foster care, a senior advisor to senator bernie sanders, who served this campaign manager for sanders 2020 presidential campaign. thank you both for joining me today. i'm really looking forward to this discussion fast. let
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me just start out with you. it does strike me, you know, if, if, you know, you're out there looking at surveying the field right now that you've got an 80 year old president, you've got a 76 year old content. her and former president, 81 year old that you worked for. and i'm just sitting there saying, you know, we're watching 2 years before the election comes. are any of these people going to be around at 2024? i'm just gonna say it folks ages in the back of people's minds competence. i've never seen bernie sanders, mississippi. i can't say the same thing for president biden. haven't seen donald trump mississippi, but if you're looking out there and you're trying to become an advisor, either to how that, by an administration, can you know, well, position itself right now, given these doubts and concerns that he may not be there and his number to is a very, very unpopular vice president right now, commer harris. what, what is that? how do you look at the field right now when it comes to age? well, when it comes to competence, when it comes to options, this is gonna be a very different election cycle than the last one, right? and the list of sites that the joe biden will have to be aggressively campaigning.
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and the way he was on this would be really, really cool. if it's president trump, i can put him on the line that i'm working this. yeah. and they're going to say that i have to parents and houses are a sincere please. are you ahead? yeah, he was, it requires more physicality, steve, but you're gonna have to get out and you have to cold campaign events. you've got to move around the country in a way that 2020, quite frankly, wasn't because of covet. and i, we hope that he's as right when we had the last campaign, joe, by the right, it was a, it was a common argument and frustration of trump camp that he was out there holding rallies, that maybe was argued were unsafe in their worst covered going around the country, but that's a job. i was not holding those kinds of in fact the bernie sanders was as a target going on doing car rallies and other kinds of things on his behalf. this time around, he's gonna have to campaign he's gonna have to have physicality is going, have to be of goods saying body in mind. i hope he is, you know, the, but i see in your i browse a little doubt. sure. i don't think there's any democrat out there who's being honest with themselves who doesn't have that depth. of course you do, but you're going to have to be at the state of the union when you saw him real. i
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thought show his, they gave me and i thought he showed up with is this is live out there friday with emptied as congresswomen. marjorie tell her, grand is, you know, taken on the chamber. i saw. 1 that was probably is better moments so he's got it and, and i think he's going to need it on a more frequent basis. jason. yeah. want to pick up on something that 5 sided because being a very smart operative, people want a fighter and they want to fight or whether they're voting in the democratic primary. in the republican primary or in the general election, they want to see that their leaders are actually doing some people are sick and tired of the career. politicians from both parties who have made problems worse over the years. but what president trump has that saved around de santis doesn't you can point to his for years. so he delivered on the economy twice. actually he delivered on crime and actually on criminal justice reforms as well. so we had folks on both sides of the debate who are bracing it. no new wars who did not invade. you crate him. very ukraine under obama invaded ukraine under by that did not under president trump. and i think people saw the america's that much stronger
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standing on the world stage where we see now is people in this weakness and one spite and completely botched. the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan, every leader, every adversary in the world had our number. so let's take a look at this week, for example, rather than picking a fight, i'm speaking to present of buying right now. he's going to have to pop a new guinea, an ally, by the way. what fights are you picking a pop? a new guinea? when we have these issues at the southern border, latavia 42 and the expiration there inflation be out of control. certainly the word ukraine is not getting any better. that ceiling to industrial prices and he's off to new guinea. so that shows a certain tone, deafness, the certain disconnect, i think, with the american public, regardless of your, your party affiliation. and this is why i think biden's going to have problems if you're say, if you're an african american voter, latino, american voter, a young voter saying what the heck are these politicians doing? none of them deliver for us. things are getting worse. that the presence often your
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guinea, that's a problem. so let me ask you a bottom line question here, and you really said, i don't mean to be offensive in a way the donald trump last the last election. he lost the election president biden . the republicans didn't lose the mid terms, but they did really much more poor a poorly than anticipated. what in those trends makes you think that donald trump has any real chance of being victorious in the 2024 race? because it's different when president trump is on the ballot. and that's when he actually get the trump voters. and keep in mind in 2020 president, trump did the best for republican domini with african americans, latino americans, asian americans, of any republican since 1972. that tells you that he's changing the nature of the party. what files and bernie sanders have done to their efforts with regard to populism, unfortunately, has been overtaken by joe biden and the establishment folks in the democratic party . and so president, trump continues to change the republican party to be more of a working class party. where's too many on the democratic side have gone to the,
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the ivory tower, liberalism, it with a real district, but then present trump driving these key coalitions. and again, the political gravity of inflation and the economy of where joe biden is the fact that he doesn't actually excite anyone present. trump has a great chance anyhow, so there's a narrative here about day one. we don't have to wonder about what present trump will do is present or how he might lead. so you can go in on day one, because we've seen him do it for 4 years. that's the difference between se trump and said, the santas, nobody's going to go to the rolling stones tribute band when the rolling stones are still performing. and so that's where i think they're going to goes, trump, you know, it raises this interesting question. i did an interview fast with president. well then vice president biden in 2016 when he had decided not to run was clear they match up was going to be between donald trump and hillary clinton. and he said, the democratic party probably said this on the record was it did become a party of snobs. has it fix that problem? when do you agree with president biden? yeah, and has president biden fix this?
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not a problem in the democratic. oh, is it the generational fact? so we got a lot more years to work on this, steve, but i think do think that he comes into this election cycle. they're better than 5050 shot to when i think the numbers tend to understate his strength. i do think that if donald trump is the nominator, he tends to be a motivator for a lot of democratic voters, and you'll see them get out. so while joe, by himself might have his own weaknesses, a being a kind of a through z aspect, energizing candidates, he's always benefited from the fact that there's a lot of democrats, we're going to be out there just voting for him. voting against donald trump. i do think that the, the, to this issue of the snobbery that you were mentioning, i think that, you know, he's been hell bent joe biden to somebody whose parents didn't go to college and they get caught and didn't get a college degree. us and you hear him talk frequently about we're trying to deliver jobs through federal stimulus spending for people who don't have a college degree. and it's critical that that message get through to people. obviously not only that get through, but also that they get those jobs. okay. but the other day,
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you gotta go to places like georgia and ohio and pennsylvania and show that there's no steel worker and electrician who's working at a job doing an electric vehicle construction or something that wouldn't have had that job before. i do think that that's going to be possible here, steve, as those real world instances of people having those jobs across this country occur the gender. i do think there's a chance that democrats start to win back working class people who we've been losing to donald trump, that said, you know, when we've lost those working class better, steve, reason why he's, he drove by his presence because they've gotten a huge amount of the suburban voters who are the wealthier, you know, a better situated graphite is more likely reliable voters. so i think with dollars, i've looked at the turn out and he's like, oh, good. i mean, i've got 10000 people coming to a rally. how could i lose? but because there's a lot of people just don't go to rally, is doing fine. the way to race and identity and governing for a whole country as opposed to part of a country come in to your thinking. and president trump's thinking, well,
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could say, look at present trump, to record where you had record low unemployment for every community across the board. community is i've, i've spoken about people actually were able to pay their bills. they felt like they're like they're standing as far as their financial standing was getting better . now we've seen 24 months in a row of earning power of households going down in the us to a buying was try because of their ration because of inflation. but again, that's because they're printing new money, but essentially just out of control spending from the, by the ministration coupled with the uh, i mean, i should add that donald trump added to what 66 and a half trillion dollars to the, to the federal debt. but you'll look at the way the economy. he rebuilt it a 2nd time the way the economy was. we were getting back on track after global pandemic. and so present, trump can say, not only did he build the greatest economy, whatever it had in the us, but he did it twice. but going back to how people are looking at this, what joe biden was trying to do, there's, he knows that his economic record is terrible. he knows he's seen the reason the
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washington post abc polling, where it's not just as a rule, voters also suburban voters, an unpopular view of jo by in his handling of the economy. they don't think the body can fundamentally turn it around. and so people, if they want to have greater earning power, if they want to turn around the stake place and they're gonna want goes donald trump, and i think that binds play to try to do this whole the whole fear game isn't going to work when the economy is this bad, but as i mean on this issue, and i've talked to senior biden campaign or by the administration official of his campaign. and they, you know, they, he, he wrote in an article, in the atlantic, on fighting for the soul of the nation. responding to what did happen in charlottesville. so what jason is talking about, about a lot of black and hispanic voters, you know, not majorities by any means. but, you know, there's a, there's a somewhat of a shift. and i, i don't know how to ask. this is precedent by not making the case when it comes to race, inclusion and opportunity. what do they see on the other side of the aisle where, where is that from your as long as you know,
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i think that as long as president biden is making this argument that we are in a class solidarity fight together regardless of race, regardless of and the city that you are in this time together, sometimes you'll, we will see right when politics occasionally may set to divide a working class holiday with each other that the jobs are being taken away from you . because somebody might be coming from a different country and, and or leaving prison and taking that job, that is rightfully yours. that kind of stuff breaks up class solidarity i think binds in a pretty good place on this issue. if you pulled on, you know, democracy just court, the democratic elements, core women's rights issue, cor, racial justice issues. he's going to win. the only issue that he's gonna have to secure. that's why i think he's better than 5050 to when the selection was issued. you have to sort sure up his economy that the only way in which i think that must provide you. and jason may disagree. the only way in which donald trump pulls off an election,
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which everybody knows the candidates know 9 are probably already know. they're both going into the selection that the only way it does is if you lose on the issue, the economy and joe buys issue, you know, major fight. there is to make people feel that i am in an economic rebuilding that includes all people of all race and gender. this isn't just trying to store up black unemployment, which is that historically low, low levels is not just to secure latino employment, secure everybody's employment regardless of race income because that kind of costs all it already message that will end up trumping. you know, i think that argument by the right that would have to make you feel like i'm a loser in this battle in which other people are gaining. i don't think it's true. the numbers just don't bear it out. the ways gains are really good at this time, unemployment, historically low, but you gotta get involved in that fight and explained that jason read disagree on that. if you look, it doesn't matter whether it's internal pulling or any of the other independent pulling out there somewhere between the 69 and 72 percent of americans,
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no matter how the questions asked things things, i think things are going in the wrong direction. cbs asked, it have, are things out of control, which was an interesting way to go and frame it out just the right track. wrong track. the in c, b, s, pulling 72 percent said they thought the country was out of control. that's a historically terrible number, and that is a really, really bad position for binding to be in. and to push back a little bit of what fad said. if you look ahead to the next few quarters for by the turn around the economy, that's not with the wall street journal projection say that's also not with the fed projection site. in fact, they say that later this year, they believe the us will have a negative growth quarter. think about that for a moment by a negative growth quarter. that is devastating. that's then when you're start seeing the chain reaction where it's not just inflation, other indicators of the, of the economy are going to start taking a real, beating the. but again, with president trump, i think we're, he has a real opening real angle the reach out to number these communities
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a quite frankly, like the democrats that have fast running everything. and they'd be in much better position. but they don't have a lot of ivory tower liberals who have just bad ideas or making things worse for the working class in this country. let me just ask you guys a hypothetical here, and i'm going to tell our audience, this is a real hypothetical. i have no inside of knowledge, but if president trump faces an indictment or is indicted in the fulton county election meddling case for the 2020 racing, georgia or proceedings were brought against him for managing class by document. so or role in january 6 are those, you know, substances, you know, elements that could take him out and same thing fast. i'd love your thoughts on that, but at the same time with president biden, you know, at his, at his age and, you know, out there if something happened. i'm just interested in the fact that as we're looking at this race, it's really weird. you've got significant legal issues facing one of the, you know, potential, he would win the republican primary for it. we held tomorrow. president pied would,
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would be the candidate who were held tomorrow. but stuff could happen that removes both of them from the picture by 2024 and i'm just interested in how you see the country and the race that if that were to happen. well one, how do i sit around saturdays sessions and say, what if jack smith, you know, bring something? no, it is. we've seen the last 2 legal attacks on president trump, whether be alvin break at district attorney in new york. or we saw what happened with the decision and then had with aging carol last week. president trump numbers have gone up both times. i hadn't seemed to have, they actually increased after those young warning console and their latest number. so the present, trump numbers have increased over the past week from before the decision until afterwards. a lot of that when i think people saw present trump on the stage in the cnn town hall, he looked presidential. he looked like someone who's going to be a fighter. this fad sent present. trump looked like a fighter on that stage, not just in the us, but around the world. he could do it on day one, much more strongly and much more effectively than the current present. fast. yeah,
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well remarkably, i mean he has consolidated the field and part of it because he thought there's ronda santas or anybody else is unwilling to make him straight. and critique of him, and so it is kind of, you know, he's basically consolidated. but when, and, and part of that is the fight infection. i'm talking about steve, right, is i, there is a president or for a person who enjoys being and fights, infections. and you can see how it helps aggravate and energized has made me feel by and isn't always that way. and i think it works to his political advantage sometimes because that suburban collection is going to stay with them is restoring . so all the countries kind of keeping things peaceable weren't going to disrupt government, bring chaos to the situation. that said, when you get into this election cycle, you're gonna have to find moments of animating your arguments. and you can't lead donald trump to spend every single day on his front foot telling you what the issue is of the country are. because we'll know he'll be picking issues in which he's going to be on his front foot. but. but what like even on women's rights. so she was, i, i don't know that uh, president trump has landed on in
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a position on abortion. you would, if your joe biden, you would be out there making this argument on a say i've every single day in a meeting this. where is that guy on this? i care deeply about women's rights and choose here's, here's what i'm going to do is pressing i says, here's what our we're going to fight for. give me the sign and give me the house, those kinds of issues. i think steve, as a gets into this next selection cycle, gotta figure out a way to animate stuff because you cannot just sit behind the podium. otherwise, donald trump is very great entertaining, very good on tv. knows how to like kind of keep the attention around them. and you can assume that that's what he'll be doing on a frequent basis to more quick questions. lots of americans over whelming majority of americans believe donald trump last election to abide one the election joe by his president, living in the white house and you know where, you know, donald trump won't drop it. he keeps bringing up. i know people working for donald trump, who, you know, no, he lost the election, save a he lost the election. is that a witness test internally? and is, is it hasn't just become a non issue out there politically,
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that people just don't hear that obsession from donald trump that he won the election and they're willing to because they don't agree with him that he lost it, but they still supported him. and i'm trying to squared that circle as well. so the presence very passionate is viewpoints, and i don't think that's going to drop any time soon. but also keep in mind that there are lot of issues out there. so say, if you're independent voters, someone who doesn't always turn into politics, maybe you're frustrated by all the talk, whether it's a of any of the elections use, want to deal with inflation. you will deal with the crime as having the cities or you see what happened overseas and afghanistan. other places like this is ridiculous. this is in america. we look so week on the global stage. we were say, i want somebody can step in and fix it right away as somebody is going to give you a bunch of promises. they see what happens with binds promises he's not fulfilling . and that's why you had the 14 students at howard university who stood up and turned around and put their backs to present vitamin one gentleman i saw even had a note on his graduation captain, said joe biden calmly, harris don't care about black people. that was a stunning signal to be sent,
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but has been caused by an harris have not delivered on their promises. they know that even if they've disagree with president trump, with a number of issues or a personality or something of that when it comes to delivering on the economy is going to get it done. i have to ask you guys that both of you here real quickly um, a surprising thing happened. matt gates, congressman from florida and alexandria across seo, cortez, a congresswoman from new york have joined together in what's called the bi partisan restoring faith and government act that prohibits members of congress from trading stocks or holding stock that i would never in my wildest dreams of thought amc and mad gates would be on anything ever. so tell me what's going on and should this restore our faith and hope in bipartisanship and in this country. yes. and is the right issue and it should have been done millennia ago. it's crazy that it's outright corruption and we see this every day with members of congress on both sides leaving and then, you know, getting handed this lucrative,
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loving jobs that they were advocating for a while in government. i'll just say a job. i don't know what i'm putting on the car is on the tape, right. want them to win reelection? here's an issue still this. he said and government is centered or by that was in what 3040 years incentive, never traded stocks. but never think of how crazy. that's right. like that as rare is a rare bird never held stocks and traded stock. how many people know that? how many times does he talk about? how many times does it cost to get his own party? what for not following his own lead on this issue. that's what i'm talking about. and imation steve, it's like, it's crazy to me if you have that kind of a record, you know, you're making the face for go by not be the guy that drives passion off the charts . and jason, your thoughts? i think it's a great issue. and again, when we talk about the, the populism aspect of this, i think to many people still look at things being the left and the right. as far as kind of a, a flat line with reality. it's much more of a curve. and yes,
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there are certain st. many things that you're gonna have the populist right disagree with. the populace left the on issue such as government accountability. when we see training stock, that is ridiculous. i, i see that that annoys me on the words i can use on elders here without getting in trouble. but it makes me so angry to see these elected officials going out and doing that. and that's why i think president trump will step in and say this, we're going to go and get this law actually passed. we're going to do this quite frankly. i think we also need, we just made news there. if, if he's elected, he's going to get is going to pass this in a law. he's already set that he wants to get rid of that, that the member should be doing that president. trump is also said he's supportive of the term limits. we have too many folks who spent their entire careers in government, either rotate that through this or present trumps on very good on this. and i also think to, i know we're getting towards the end of the segment. there are some issues about some of the for and money coming in with joe biden. maybe that's why he wasn't worried about trading stocks because he had other cash that was coming in. a lot of that being discussed with hunter the d o j. that's for another 2nd. last quickie. what's the best piece of advice if you were working for president trump that you
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would get present from your work for president fight and did you will give the president biased to go 1st. if you go ahead, if i was giving advice, the job, i would say only do events between 10 am and 4 pm because everyone knows that you're not a morning person. you're not in evening person. your best chance are those few hours in the middle of the day where they can get you pumped up, keep it within that, that sweet spot face best. you know, i, he's not been back on twitter. steve has not been back on the youtube yet, or facebook, and i, you think, you know, it's somebody, he's still controlling a lot of narrative without actually having been on the platforms that were really responsible for a lot of his rights and the i gave him too much advice to her, but you know, there's opportunities for actually thinking for storing it up as he likes. we can start a business at like 3 places with that. thank you for this conversation. very simple, very interesting. very candid jason miller, senior advisor to the trump 2024 campaign and fast shakira senior advisor to
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senator bernie sanders. thank you so much for being with us today. this is terrific . thank you. thank you. so what's the bottom line? we get it. enthusiasm matters when candidates are trying to get out the vote. the intensity of support these days is tied to strident anti establishment posturing that attack some of the main pillars of american society. donald trump, is it 40 percent popularity? because folks worry about him and jo biden's in about 40 percent, because he sort of blan biden's happy to play the middle, but trump is willing to go to the extreme. so brace yourselves for another polarizing intense, take no prisoners year ahead. and that's the bottom line. the house of aging city, just the foundation of human civilization. but food today is a global commodity. 50 industry did not make money, how many people would be on?
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