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you as a lawmaker, you don't have access to information for don't have access to information on out. just sarah, the 50 you douglas, wes, refunded antiquities from cambodia and toilet. when i, when i asked fellows to determine team of fluids, tracking them down on out to 0 the you what you will just bear with me. so robin, in the heart of mind to of all top stories, heavy fighting has continued and sued on despite to cease funding, agreed between the army and the power military rapids support forces. the 7 day humanitarian choose pro good by the united states and saudi arabia came into effect on monday, evening. legal time to move and has moved on demand north west of the capital cost to residents and multiple parts of product to him reported multiple types of gunfire. being heard around the capital in the,
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in undermining the eastern side residents who we spoke to say that they were able to heavy heavy. it's to hear heavy arts and memories that force them to stay in doors despite the fact that they were hoping to be able to go out to access market . that's in the eastern part of on demand here in the capital costume. we were also able to see plumes of smoke rising from the central parts of the capitol and we could hear fight the jets flying overhead. focused on sol, prime minister and run con has been granted battle after appearing and cold in the capitalist, i'm about. he's facing a range of charges including corruption. khan has rejected the allegations saying that the politically motivated, he also says that as a government conspiracy to don history can solve policy. come on, how to, how small from the pocket sony capital, the wrong von or the bill to a support or that even if it that day. and you said the word that for and served that the maybe or that that dish or not day the lawyer down and i do that man be
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supported. so indeed, the investigation now going on that the investigation is underway. an investigation team of the nurse and the accountability bureau, a squared thing. and ron, calling about the out of kado university trust case and raised our government images. that there was the irregularities committed by him. ron von and his wife. russia says the good did it blame. so monday's cross border tax and the belgrade region has been falls back into ukrainian territory. the defense ministry says 75 is a cold and dry and shot down in good. i have ruled it accuses ukraine of sabotage, but the chief has denied involvement. a self described antique kremlin group claimed responsibility for monday's, a sold out of the government says, in cash and native elgar all days, and attend by keith to divert attention from russia's claim capture all the ukrainian city of buffalo. but keith says it's forces still control the area to the south west and then making steady advances. to this use case called size is
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intercepted, 17000 people trying to cross the mediterranean sea to europe since january, around 3000. i'm trying to make the journey in the same period last year. bennet smith has moved from the island of long producer in southern equity. so 42 arrivals today, april topside, all of them. young men from 2 don rescued, rescue down to the sea. earlier this morning. they settled from 2 museum migrants who come here from tennessee. it tends to be either from c, donald, from the ivory coast gone, or cumbia. and molly and there are boats and also sail here from libya on those boats. some libby, you tend to find it, gyptian, moroccan, syrians, ethiopians. and they're all is present. abraham, i see is in indonesia hoping to boost economic ties by sea. and present jacob would do the all set to sign that preferential trade agreement there on the spacing tough economic sanctions from the us over its nuclear program. and indonesia is trying to recover from the economic full out of the pen demik us present job. i have not the
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republican speaker of the house i told to stop the country from defaulting all its debt. so being productive. kevin mccarthy says, democrats need to agree to cub spending. if they want republican support for deal treasury officials say without an increase in borrowing limits. the us could default by june. the 1st columbia, as president, has suspended a truce with a rebel good following, becoming a fully indigenous children. gustavo petro says, the military has restored to defensive operations in the south, and that's off to fight. as from the function of the follicles, most action group attacked an indigenous community round the dread have launched a hate crime complaint with spanish prosecutors after that player. this is julia was targeted with racist abuse, but the head of the spanish leak has denied it. has a problem with racism. there's with a headlines, moonies and hop not here on out to 0, but next is the price of progress to stay with us.
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the new world with industry doesn't want any regulation. they just want to put the products on the market. we need a regulation, so we don't do crazy things because maybe sometimes we do credit things, i don't know, but except that we have regulation. we once we good ation as industry and if we don't behave then yes, penalty that's fine. the always case of the industry makes money. of course it does. if the industry did not make money, how many people will be on work, the worst sort of the last concern, the public interest in the public safety is definitely not taking precedence. corporate interest, corporate profits have been getting priority with the regulator, so that needs to change. and one of the big ways to do that is just to require transparency, the we,
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we lost the transparency. we would like to publish everything we use it's just not allowed. and we use this, i cannot say we don't care, there's intellect, property rights, but we, if so we publish every things. it will just be breaking the law the way they prefer today to of properties to the house of children. the if you make money out of selling pesticides, how much incentive does these companies do? these companies have to get us off pesticides? who they make sure that we get to use less pesticides or will they make sure that we use always more pesticides? the today industry pieces to
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spend millions of euro's not being to day regulation is the state of researching substitutes and how to make these things different. the, it's in the industries an interest to bring food to the tables that is safe. that is high quality. that is reasonably priced so that you and i and all of those people working in food industry can also sit down and eat a good, nutritious food every day as a reasonable price. the progress and goals risk you are referring to, to accidents. you just really into that and so i see that. and so people who are injured or who people die every time just happens for industry in general, defeats the however, those incidents also allow us to improve, to do it better next time and to progress. and there is no progress without an
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analysis of risk versus benefits. the what is progress is progress of moving forwards, whatever. and using any technology we are capable of inventing. but it's not because we know how to do something that it's useful, that split phone so that people will receive, put some intelligence on what technology and what progresses. i don't think that progress is viewed in the future generations house by using tons of chemicals that, that, that can create disease and he's cancer to, to someone who's trying to use a textbook.
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the if we went today was a profession, your principal problem, even we don't have airplanes, and these would not exist because everything, sometimes they fall down. so there is a risk. we would not have automobiles because every year in europe, how many $5060000.00 people die, we just won't be left a few minutes. so progression, reprints the point i think is a disaster. and yet, this is what we are now more and more advocating. and you applies to other culture
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. we are farming in europe. we've list substances. then most americans, most americans use this tools, you know, seats because we don't use g m o 's. we don't use technology. i mean, it doesn't make sense. we want to participate. they then be competitive on a global scene or not the and in europe, we have this romantic idea or fondles business people. they would never cultivate something that is dangerous and they would never cultivate something. they don't need fittest business people and we shouldn't that them to the business the
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and we can't expect them to act in any other way. except the only way that would change is if there is a, a root and branch revolution in the way that we do business. and that would need to involve all corporations all over the world. because as long as we treat food like a global commodity, we have a very big problem. the and part of that problem is that food will go to the highest bidder and the highest bid or may not be someone that wants to feed you the highest bid, or maybe someone wants to feed your car. this is entirely the wrong way to look at food. food should be food,
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the reason disease of making money, the prophets. it's about the big corporation. it's about the form of the big uniform lens with one cross accident. it's about corporate control. and it's mostly also, economically, it's about international markets import export. it's all about companies controlling in far away places. lands quick sport, commodities. there's another box for production. it's not about feeding people.
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the industrial agriculture is a form of mining and it produces raw materials and then you subject raw material. it's to various uses at the most of the use go into animal food and text outs, 5 of fuel, whatever you have the, the rest of it can be sold more expensive to some other use will go into process in food processing the so it's foot a necessity always showed a, a business transaction food as both. yeah. so we all need to eat. that's for sure. but in europe we have a very comfortable full stomach conversation. we haven't had
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a famine in you of hundreds of years. so we have no idea what it means to have the choice between one to a month to another month. and we have 10 to you. doesn't really matter to us if we have a team or not on here. and i think we are unaware of the impact or decisions here have on countries where there is no food i know of days. this is the big confusion between which is a genuine interest in the interest of industry. because the priorities jobs and growth and it states, bruce and drugs are more important than people's nights. the if the food industry is successful, it will create more jobs, will create more value added. it will create more throat. so i don't see why. we shouldn't also fight for the interest of the industry, but this should be
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a communal fights to modern agriculture relies on satellites relies on precision farming, which is the connection between satellites digital machinery and then all of the tools which are available for farmers. unfortunately, i think europe is losing its edge as far as pre production agriculture because of an overly conservative risk rickies regulation. and these tradeoff between progress and the risk you know, to get under the, i think you're opposite is the best potential to be the leading agricultural region
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in the world. we should be the ones who is the best jobs and the most invest in seats in hybridization, genetically express the sites, give me calls machinery. we shouldn't be because we have everything we need to succeed. and my fear is that we are not using these potential to, it's much in what we want to see is something very different. is the model built on diversity on biological diversity. that is, you know, different crops planted together, crop rotations, the do we get as humanity, our act together to change and reconfiguration together. how we operate on this planet? well, we will make also subsidies the that's defining, moving,
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and we have to put the technologies in place where they belong. they have to be then assistant to our goals. well, as many people, if i say that would say yes, yes, of course makes sense. but i have not understood that this is not where we are now . we are now defining future visions through a technology lenses. but i want to turn it around. i want that we have a collective vision where we want to be and how we want to design our environment are now foot system that operates was in the planetary boundaries. as scientists, i've been to find you where i respect the rules of the planet and not vice versa, that we manipulate our planet to the point where it meets our needs in economic terms
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what progress do we want? are we willing to trade off some of the benefits for some of the risk because we're facing a world which is more, more globalized? so we are up against the other parts of the world, which do not always play with the same rules. the . there are 2 political issues and parts of the world where there is less food. and we need to find ways to get food to those parts of the was either to 8 or to produce it themselves and to produce more food on the same amount of land. because we don't use more land,
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the countries more resources the, let's see one cities of the moment. just simply the commander. they sort of must have a lovely. yes accumulate going on. we come into it seem to be side. me list the toner last. the plug issue that's got on your plan. okay. and then we will be in dallas. you may be called the do you imagine the number of friendly diseases that are in every family today
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is not due to new viruses or new microbes that have been found in all breast cancer phones. that's not true. so it is due to an environment and to probably poisons that's out in the environment. what all the chronic bodies is designed to be toxic initially and spread all over the place. first the yes it did to share that because of my my, the i'm credit they sit into you're trying, you're continuing with the mama can you can see have you anything else for me, the cool no flip side of model t o s. what kind of to take you through a sign you up to and including tacitly mama in from i told you my desktop equal, you know, mean i'm a total of my vehicle so they take it easy enough to understand either
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the volume. this is the best to go see on. so it looks, it goes so totally okay. maybe i'm getting the boot the boot the they don't know, go make demos in there. are they usually i like this to be a part of my say with the game this the guess over the less governor of the less than that to me as well. good night. and then we'll see why usually 50 located and again out of the nato, the to the, i don't do because of it because this will stuff just skip with any of this is joe bitten menu, us the locate gomez, speed a baby, the ship waste, a total of interest to go to moya forecasting stuff. yes. by send going through our list decision. talk. see gus, but a lot of approval. pre owned by the system. all of them. oh no,
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no. can city finish, i stuck in on piece of stuff states us use the 7 level within by subject on us from the know the se in north canada, she didn't know to put on your leave. we did must be motor. she'll she'll to you if you have, we'll give you my direct 3. how stupid under the last few months to come to open up route to see these wanting you to mount the think i see through to inform you until you meet with the media to see a scene for washington, cuz he cannot go get it. but i won't because he will see to it, but on a few that getting into month to get on the team, go get put a lot of them into component became a component. and we will give you
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a little insight. all of us giving it to monthly 2 weeks, an old you must be on a and be tentative later learn. some of us will be document tomorrow. no the in coca, most guffy. but i can't seem to be on board kaloni plus 40. i gave it to us as in the me to the she's in the these but of course don't seem to be as well that you'd have to sync what. ok, and do use, what do you have to do? so no, i have to talk to them. yeah. no forget about to do the paddle and sort of see the of my daughter, she's a thin plastic o. my daughter, she's of the law and what i see only in the south end, they've conflict. a lot of those go not law, say that the for the real model, see of, you know,
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the ma'am indeed many, it was the open and to modern agriculture have understood that it's un, it's easy to, to scare people. it's easy to and to use fear as a strong emotional driver for a change in policy and for influencing policy. sometimes it's in the interest of the industry groups to do that, of course, because it keeps them at work and brings in money for them as well. so i think we should look at this from both sides. we sometimes have visits from them. recently they invaded this building and they have done so before and threw me in your and tightening classroom stuff hospice. but okay, that's part of the game. i suppose. we do not, we, you know, when we fight against when we fight against when we try and dialogue with people
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that we don't have the same weapons. i sometimes have the feeling that and we have bows and arrows and they have different bonds. as soon as there's an end, your group of people who are again something maybe, maybe the advantage, maybe they stop using it, maybe they sell them 14. so in terms of development and trust, i think we risk losing a lot of trust as a region when i say industry has the truth. we know what's in our products, for example like that. if i, if i make a product mean you can go home. this evening and make it by a, in your kitchen. you know what's in there and you write it down. that is the truth . sorry, but to know we are an industry, we know what we pushing our products. we can tell you, this is the truth. this is what we put in a quote in our products, when i say we have to truth, i'm talking about and i'm not talking about philosophically the truth. i'm talking about what we do,
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we know what we do. and we can talk about that the let to know there's a cover, you don't the domain, the video as soon as a face or less, something the 50 seed, these are jam, they put it on, and then i have read the book to please understand the need to sort them into see it back to normal acre. uh, and these are house for the if the demo the, these evaluates show me and these in addition, designed just to, you know, find some for the schedule, see for $0.50 a month from now school. they don't on a glass when that was where we don't need science and i was planning on doing visual still under the same most i thought you should or this you may, this was, it shows you for the article. if you don't see it, no, no,
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our quotes re coffee, those here it is. it for several or something. coffee locked in for me with his shots. if he pulls the 3rd party consumer apple to solve for cooking to, to pass on. i live, saw or live the our for zones on those probably done these. i shall east of precision roller. so i think for me, so i did have a probably most on to pay the as the conflict into time continued some correspondence or on the ground to record every angle. if the story had been on good between the hours and the 16th army
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beat ages to say that a 100 i'm soothing is refugees. why you have to be registered under people cannot access pay this, this food does not get to where it is needed. so it may not get there at all. the challenge ahead is your stay without your benefits the, the but the 2 zeros here to report on the people often ignored but who must be hurt? how many other channels can you say? we'll take the time and put extensive followed into reporting from under reported areas. of course we cover major global events that are passion,
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lies in making sure that you're hearing the stories from people in places like how this finds the young man has regions. and so many others, we go to them, we make the effort, we tear straight the to you. what's your goal? just bear with me to hold robin in the heart of mind to evolve top new stories. heavy fighting is continue. didn't see don despite to cease 5 between agreed, between the army and the power ministries up and support. full says, the 7th day humanitarian choice probably could find the united states and saudi arabia came into effect on monday evening cycle time to the move and has moved from on demand northwest of call to residents and multiple parts of product to him
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reported multiple types of gunfire being heard around the capital in the, in undermining the eastern side residents who were suppose to say that they were able to heavy heavy. it's to hear heavy artillery that pours them to stay in doors despite the fact that they were hoping to be able to go out to access market. that's in the eastern part of on demand here in the capital costume. we were also able to see plumes of smoke rising from the central parts of the capital. and we could hear fights the jets flying overhead focused on the full, probably minutes to enroll and con, has been granted by laughter appearing and cold. and it's all about that he's facing a range of charges including corruption, khan has rejected the allegation saying that the politically motivated, he also says there's a government conspiracy to band his, the rekey and soft policy. russia says the group that blame. so monday's cross border attacks and the bellows, the rog region has been forced back into you quite the entire tree. the defense ministry says $75.00 is what killed and dry and shot down in grave or on it accuses
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you. creative, sabotaged but chief, has denied any involvement a self described antique kremlin group taking responsibility for monday's assault. the wrong president to bring my c as in indonesia hoping to face the comic ties by easy and present jacob will do to all set to sign a preferential trade agreement there on is facing tough economic sanctions from the us over its nuclear program. and then tenicia is trying to recover from the economic full lives of depend demik to us president joe. by now the republican speaker of the house they told us to stop the country, some defaulting on its depths, have been productive. kevin mccarthy says, democrats need to agree to cub spending if they want republican support for deal round the trade have launched a hate crime, complains with spanish prosecutors after that play of instances julia was talk did with racist abuse. but the head of the spanish league has denied it. has a problem with racism. that is with the headlines. i'm back with the news on just
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in the hall from last time. we continue with the price of progress to stay with us . tom, i have 2 beauties international that both is flaw from home people on this airplane, it's refuge from the st bottles and asked strikes and sit on starts every morning. continued till the night. we don't sleep the people they rescue a say they often have to make treacherous studies to reach the ac off to be able to be to, to safety. so need a government workers and some citizens of wealthy and nations that have been to the house in this way. tens of thousands of people have been trying to leave, so you don't buy land. others don't have anywhere else to go somewhere. and he's comedy central with you and now stuck here. you think? don't have to required papers for the money to go on with travel. i have to go 3 to 6 check or even today's, you can continue that jenny's employees on today that everyone here has the loved
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ones left behind. no one knows except be safe. the that is that companies have to submit studies to european commission. they do the studies themselves after submitted studio and commission and to esa, so the pain from safety authority. and they have a panel of experts that looks at the studies and then they say, okay, say for not. uh so what do we have found is that within these expert panels, we have a lot of people with dice with the food industry. so that means the co 6 interest,
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the ok. so if someone wants to also replace the product in your let's say a plan projection product, this person, because this person or this company, the applicant, has to provide data that allows us, as the risk assessors to judge whether this product is safe or not. and this information comes from the applicants and the studies that are commissioned by the applicant to allow us to assess the safety piece by the applicant, obviously. so it seems like the property of the applicants and we can property each box of these studies in the car, in the legal framework. but we also have to respect the pieces confidentiality claims of the applicants. so there is a balance to be found between transparency as much as possible, but also to predict the,
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the investment of companies in to they are product innovations. exactly like in the middle ages you were asking to the priest, what is a truth in? no, you ask to these scientists and regulatory agencies, what is the truth and they act in the same manner as magician. you know, because they work on secrets from phones. we see chris effects, they say that you cannot police that however they say they have the truth. the if you spend i sewage amount of money doing study a study on something where there's a lot of confidential information in there that you don't want to. another company
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to copy paste, of course not. i mean, you might have spent years a lot of resources. so people time, a lot of time on the money, i'm doing this research at what exit does, is it i'm or lies as little as i should publish it, the results. so it will publish and it will come out with the statement at the end . and, and it will publish the results, but it won't publish all the details of what a lot of people want to see because there are people for the, for the relative eyes or because so it's actually a lot of people. but some people, and i want to see everything, that's fine. i think now it's actually a little bit published, but you're talking about several thousands of pages. i didn't know who in his white mind would sit down and read through all of those pages. i think some parts can be blacked up, but i would insist that that's to do with privacy. so the relationship between all companies and research institutes and universities is quite strong. and as i mentioned before, in many parts of the world, it tends to be the public sector developing the products,
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thanks to relationship with the company. maybe the company donated the technology. the problem in europe, for example, is that an s, so that you mentioned before, they have scientists assessing the products. and the scientists have a obligation to have no conflict of interest. that means they have to have, have no relationship whatsoever with industry ever. so if you're a scientist and you're having a, any kind of dealing with a company close as a number of avenues of work later. so again, we are really champions and creating difficulties for ourselves in europe, but the rest of the world is doing fine. the running around or jo hollingsworth for monsanto. and with me is my partner, eric lasker,
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and to on his right is john kayla. and next to john is mimi line right now. the thank you very much know your colleagues to the 2nd final which will look at the transparency and use of scientific studies and the assessment of life for state in the united states. and the hopefully will provide insight into the so called most of the papers. thank you very much for inviting me to be here today as a journalist for some 30 years now. i'm someone who has spent most of my life focusing on facts pursuing the truth. i've spent roughly 20 of those 30 years
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delving into the dealings of monsanto. and i can confidently tell you that the story of the company's top sewing chemical glasses say is not one of truth, but one of defeat. it's sort of a treasure trove and look inside a very big and powerful company that has been very secretive, you know, for decades. and a lot of the information is quite alarming. when it comes to public health and safety associated with the use of their popular product life and state and around. another way in which montana has manipulated regulators and the public is by establishing networks of scientists around the world to support its agenda. and it's message about the safety of this chemical, monsanto, and, or the monsanto back let's, as a task force, pays them the lobby regulators. they author papers, essentially, to push this message that the chemical is safe. there are many individuals and there are many types of different relationships that we've seen in these documents . you can see here that professor david kirkwood is one such paid, expert montana, was relied on
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the 2012 months and was very worried about gino toxicity questions arising from 5 to 6 research. when it engaged person, monsanto needed someone to help counter these concerns that were for assisting what bill hayden's wrote in the email, i think i was just not eve. and it clearly did not lead to any policy decision. we all have decades of experience in the industry, and therefore we have reputations to maintain. and that means that there is no point in those being all responding to the influence of,
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of one stakeholder over another. because those reputations wouldn't be destroyed. i can say absolutely an attempt to go like categorically this paper was not ghost written. we all inputs our own sections to the paper. there was no input involvement or influence of the review by monsanto. thank you. thank you. well, it seems a pair of them on central actually fears. real independent, authentic science. monsanto said itself, it feared the arc review when it found done in 2014. this is for eric sat down before the classification. monsanto says it fears this. it says internally that it knew it had vulnerability and epidemiology toxicology geno talks. most center officials even predicted the glass, the state would warrant a possible or probable rating. with respect to f, as in echo, no. f, as a process is defined as a peer review, and i understand that and that's, i don't have a problem with that peer review problem in this case is that's not,
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was, was done. nobody went back and verified the findings on the original studies. and by failing to verify those findings, it cascaded through the entire review process, such that you don't have the answer which is based on the best science hudson's of the say important to me some that we have doing the proper independent assessment. and that the, according with the results of the be happy nesa according to the regulations that focus on the use of the active assessments. and based on that we generate the risk assessments regarding the independence from industry is clearing the legislation. i would say the 6 is the basic principle, the company that the ones to market something the you must pay for the assessment. so this studies happened that the buttons to the result of the current process is scientifically floyd. it is time to have an independent panel of scientist evaluate the way in which the science is reviewed. there's
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a need for the regulatory agencies to re analyze the data, and there's a need to publicly publicly release all of the analyses and data to improve the transparency of this process. these are not the actions of a company that has nothing to hide. this is not how you promote a product. this is that's actually proven safe. this is how you whitewash unfortunate and unprofitable facts a. this is not by accident by design, and it serves monsanto very well, but it does not seem that it serves the public interest. thank you. the monsanto prepared certain documents for the registration and the as a report, if you look at it, has taken directly certain language from the monsanto documents and just placed it in the report. so there's a lot of concern about whether s i really did an independent analysis or whether they just took the position to be against i or at monsanto's request. so that is
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not an independent assessment. how can we verify or expect that on the basis of such robust scions and i'm quoting industry, we can make a decision. politicians in the end you can make a decision to protect that people. that if somebody you know, has said hello to the industry at some stage in his life, that should not mean that that particular scientist should be banned from a panel. or, you know, research has been funded somewhere by someone. many of the scientists that have a lot of and a half now left the organization and their science panels because they have been accused of having worked with the industry. but since when does that make a science as dishonest of the why? so having worked with the industry some years ago on the small projects, at some stage i did, i'm a scientist by training. and when i was in university, of course i was looking for a grant to do my research. because some research can cost
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a lot of money. i was helped by industry. i haven't spoken to that particular industry now for for many, many years. it's been a long time since i was in college. but that doesn't mean i'm dishonest as a scientist. the know your students to be in the region where influence is very high and other regions look at your for, for regulation. and that's why it's so important that you're at the keeps regulation which is scientific,
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which is database in which as much as possible decides results being influenced by a by i would say by noise or by and just the emotions and fear the with science meets values and it's becoming complicates as we come with science with evidence we do and as a scientific process of risk assessment. but then this evidence is given on another stage on the policy level. there believes emotions, values come in and what we see is a 40 additions. don't like the outcome of our risk assessment. they don't question
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the, i believe they question the validity of the process. so basically if it's a comes with an opinion, let's say on the, on the continuing its in 60 sites, what additional the love i've so they want the food as so you are protecting the bees, you're doing the right thing really going to act on there. so we all upload it to you, and it's the same process with the same people. with the same scrutiny comes with the conclusion. let's say i'm glad for say, people say, i'm sorry, i don't like this outcome. so she would not say the type of say this, right? that'd be pretty safe. so if so must be corrupt. i find this very bizarre. the, you know, regulations is independent of corporate influence and, and it's, uh, everything is tested, actually tested. and with a lot of money and, and, and,
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and our authorities are looking at it independently. i don't know where these people have been living even in some of the mainstream, john is you don't find reports that clearly explain that this is not happening. we are seeing corporate capture not only in the sciences, it's science is one of the fields we see corporate capturing in every walk of life . the . i'd like to say it seems to be very highly charged. nope, because of the safety of dr for say. but because of g, and because of monsanto, because of international trade, maybe even because of inequality with global traits. supercharger assessments itemized on your system. i as a positive dispute seats. ben to facade,
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supposed to move out and put in that opa done. yeah. and medium box on 5 different models and see if it was to take your next directions, the list of atom, people, socks, the votes. this is rick is really awesome story to fill out the of course, if the science is works for the company, that's a different story. but i think we need to be a little bit more realistic about what it is we want. do we want the best scientists to assess the products, the guess to make sure they're safe? or do we want to make sure there's no conflict of interest? what does the objective, is it the safety of the product? because of the conflict of interest of the, of the scientist, i think we need to be a bit more honest and trustworthy without forwarding into the mistake sense. so that's not something that we are looking for. i mean, the, the,
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the experts we use are as independent as possible, but i think also here it's not black or white. it's not c or, or one that's not the digital binary approach. we have to find the right balance between the best expertise. which mean people that have done research the people that are with both feet in, in the scientific endeavor and on the other end to make sure that there is no conflict of interest. and if i may say or something, i think europe needs to make a decision whether we know, i think i stop here. yes. that's what leads to far too much, but they don't ask of a medium. she'll get off of it then in the showing us the height of going to us
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already. so i see, and there's a total of need is the left on that is unit for a sample and take a set that all the hung up. i mean, fluid and last, or kind of stuff. you know, once he left it, i live in atlanta. so need us look into this one. i see that on simply a little bit less, but i really like to meet you in the band and, but i'm in total bill in a contract so i can see that that's one. that's good for the last time it was on here. i don't know if that's alice, but if you read is is the kind of thing that the cutting that the so yes, precautionary principle is and i scientific and it is, i think a big issue for you. okay. and economy in general, because it reduces the income is the willingness of some investment
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the, there is a risk in registering and you purchase this is a risk. this is a benefit. i'm a waiting to take this risk. yes or no. and the regulation today gives us an answer . if you look at the car of today, it is much safer then to call yesterday. you know, the 1st car that i drove in when i was a boy and my father was driving, had no safety built in the house. no, i had no airbag and now no abs and uh and its z accommodate through. it was not a murder. it is a car was like this and it was a very safe car for the time. and i'm not saying that the best he says of 1950. uh you know where? fantastic. but by then they were very with bessy side. and then we'll just go over the house on the side effects and then the regulation. evils and regression becomes more demanding and especially sides of bond or are withdrawn from the company. and
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that's no more that's normal. it will ition of any industry, the power of innovation doesn't come from the big companies. the big companies are too big to be innovative anymore. they just want to preserve that present, that just but they're not innovating anymore. let me look at, look at the, the, the d i'm in the past, the sides, we're dealing with gm plant said we're develop 13 years ago. nothing has changed. it's b, t and other side resistance since the beginning it's old color. so the integration innovation is that we now have in addition to round the ready and roundup resist implants, we have become a resistant trans am to for the resistant place. so we're getting an even more cocked toxic cocktail. it does. that's innovation. it has to get out. it just has to get benefits versus risk, right?
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what use a risk you're willing to accept on the environment? even if it's very small, in order to have a safe and affordable to supply the, to me, the defining factor in the future will also be around all acro fruit system. if we manage to get our, in my view, this functional aggregate foot system on the sound, environmental, economic, social, and economic basis, then we sold everything else will come from even climate change and these things health issues and our mental issues, social issues are collateral. they're all part of the, of this whole thing that is connected. and the connect, the connecting, sent a piece is,
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is food. and how you produce the, because we see the world as it t's. we are in fact, at the border age of the revolution. because human kind of is able to do that, how much time that will take, how much i mean misery is that will create i don't know, but that's i'm for me. you know, there is a french writer co pay a hobby. he said, this is a collie bri, i fair. so i'm just a little bird in the system doing my job as much like the
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in europe. we're not going to give off. we're not gonna. there are lots of other technologies. it's not just about gym, or there are lots of other technologies coming off and the companies are committed to invest in yourself as well. despite that, being so uncomfortable is a euphemism to work here. the latest news as it breaks the tech spec dmc, electric seconds of this y has already started the campaign year with details coverage withhold that members of the g. 9 gang are not far away from here. and they have been attacking this area from around the world. they haven't seen anything like this so far. since the conflict again, we've got a sense of how in norm as to the scale of this humanitarian crisis,
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it the had a lot of that is lots of hate to be found across central parts of south america at the moment in particular for power. why? and northern parts of origin, tina, but there's a change to come on the cards. we've got a weather system putting into southern parts of chile, that's gonna start to spread its way for the east and a rush of thunder storms breaking out. that's going to what the temperature of flight and went upstairs and bringing the west to where the fondest show was there on thursday for the north of this clear sky. so many central areas of brazil pushing to the east coast. lots of sunshine for rio de janeiro,
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it's up in the north. it was in the west to weather with some heavy thunder storms and rain to come to places like columbia, as well as venezuela is new to central america and the caribbean. the west is where they can be found out. so the east east to live and sing some heavy falls that on choose day. and we will see some thunder storms rushing down across florida into the bahamas and eventually into central parts of cuba into wednesday. not screwed up, but dry up for mexico. and things have cooled down thankfully across the western parts of canada. as we go to north america and you can see some of that rain starting to move from british columbia into alberta, and that's going to help with a fight against those wild fires that you whether update of the time harry diabetes and the kimberly in western australia or indigenous communities attaining at with sciences to create
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a new approach to marine conservation land rover even. but the bottom i'm, i found you and you're reporting from brazil you're going to try this protecting biodiversity pro defending themselves against the legal invaders, the price. oh no. does 0 the . ready the problem is that a rahman, you're watching the interest it renews on life. my head forces here in the coming up in the next 60 minutes cease 5 violations. and so dog fighting and explosions reported on the 1st day of a week on humanitarian truce rushes. those fighters who attacked in belgrade region
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