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where it was tonight, who was prime minister, 40 times, until he's lucky, eventually run out. the rocky power broke on how to 0 and the courage cease fire in the fighting in sudan. the country has been embroiled in war for more than a month. despite many agreements, battles are raging in front of them and many other areas. so what will it take to persuade the warring sides to stop? this is inside story, the hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much enjoy them for more than a month fighting and sudan has turned once bustling cities into battle fields. now there is hope the latest cease fire will change that the truce is meant to enable

the safe transportation of humanitarian aid to millions of people who are trapped, but fighting has reportedly continued in hot spots. so what will happen to those who need food and medicine and will cease fire violations fuel mormons trust between to don's warring sides. we'll explore these issues with our guess. but 1st, this report by culture lopez for the young during the last 5 weeks, is now lost. everything. he flipped sudan when finding it too close to home. he says his life is now unrecognizable about the flow. it took a several days to get out of sedan that was several check points along the way. it's been quite challenging for my pregnant wife and i to reach this refugee company, c o, p u, we have nothing. back home and sudan entire communities remain trapped in and around the capital cartoon. most can't afford to leave

law that the, how the fighting has given the state to the city, it's destroyed, infrastructure and killed people. i hope the cx 5 will last so things can get back to normal. that sees fire between sedans, army and the paramilitary rapids support forces was broken on monday by the us and saudi arabia in the city of jetta. it's meant to guarantee the safe passage of food and medicine for millions of people in dire need. people are leaving costs soon because there's no food, no water, no electricity. and there is very high levels of insecurity. the future is very bleak. for those people, it is bleak for saddam and it is bleak for the region. but despite the ceasefire 8 organizations say they still play security and logistical challenges. some people have welcome the rest, buy from the fighting, but are worried. it will last. the staff is literally thing it was us will be

hopefully the traffic in under run and hard to move, be safer and easier to navigate during the cease fire that way. hopefully we can go back home when the situation comes down and then you know, some streets that recently looked like war zones now seemed quiet. but for many, it's an an easy calm people force from their homes in an outside to den most. now wait and hope the latest cease fire will mark the turning point, katia, a little bit. so again, for insights story. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests. joining me in london is missing edit site and general coordinator for youth and environment. student. she's the former chair of the un secretary general's youth advisory group on climate change in cairo is a scene. is that a public health specialist and civil servant with students federal ministry of health in london is done the opposite. when i am assuming these political

commentator, she fled the country during the fighting a warm welcome to you all and thanks for joining us today on inside story industry . and let me start with you today. this is cease fire that was brokered by the us and saudi arabia between sued and army, and the rapids support forces. how is it holding up so far? unfortunately, this is fired for laps very big from the early morning hours of today. my husband's interested in cartoon, and he repeatedly recorded voice notes and talk to me about hearing a lot of gun firing and a lot of bumping around him. i came back to a one hour ago. i make a slide to, we're actually dropped by the are attempts from the army side on we so a lot of videos by the 2 pilots have to actually use the to the

power shots to jump out of the of the make me out. and it is escalating, unfortunately not going down as also the army. and now that the, our staff right now reach the area where we actually have a lot of the goals reserved for the country, but also a lot of cash. and that was freshly printed for become c. uh, i think uh we are now witnessing a cd of relapse offices fire. although yesterday many areas around cartoon, cartoon, north, san under mine was quite a lot of people were saying that it's the 1st time they sleep for more than a month. and yet it looks like some areas are not exactly. ringback the same way, but now today i think it's more escalating. as more news are coming about, magic bumping,

a massive clashes between the 2nd and the army. a scene when the cease fire was announced, some some call to cease fire. some have been calling it a temporary truce, but the idea was that it was meant to guarantee the safe transportation of food and medicine for millions of people who are in desperate need to create essentially a humana, terry, and chord, or whether or not it completely collapses do you think that this sort of humanitarian core door can actually be achieved at this time? firstly, before um the started there was no way um to provide any kind of sizes. but unfortunately, and as they say this huge fire or the truth is ongoing. the are a sup, has actually broken into 2 hospitals in the last 24 hours, which is the, i'm a guessing hospitals. they kicked out the patients. they used tool for accidents as today. and yesterday, the band to the hospital went out of service. this making 28 hospitals and to take

and uh, by the hour or so with more than 21 inches tall. and in this case file, or what so called the true is we, can you ask me the one reason that he might not be successful, but it did not include the evacuation of the soldiers of the r a. so i'll talk to him. it is to be discussed and agreed upon later, but the by nation will continue and the safer roads shall not be made if the r a so the means in the urban areas as well. unfortunately, it's not pointing to the bites, has it dropped have been waived in the board yesterday, the around 5 people were killed in a way 30 injured way of hospitals are running out of service. they're running out of electricity. surgeries are being made with full flashes. other than that, this not only that, that or is out of service completely with the network being out the hospitals

being destroyed. and it's not just that they're surrounding areas of stick is like there's and g, and they're terrorizing the people. they cannot access services for 2 children died out of electricity shortage in that fort in the past few days. um so yeah, i don't think this is successful in any way so far. daddy, i saw you nodding along to a lot of what a scene was saying there she's describing horrific circumstances, especially on the amount of terry and front, especially when it comes to the health care needs of millions of people who are trapped because of the fighting. did you want to jump in? did you want to add to what she was saying? yeah, i do. i mean, uh, she based, uh, she basically said was, i was going to say that it's not this cartoon that's being hit. or not being afraid though it's this, the other part of the country is all other cities are also really badly affected by what's happening and therefore has received a spike and attacks and crashes. and the number of those that keeps going up. and

already, you know, the infrastructure outside of cartoon was, was very poor. and now with the continuing fighting, it split to the, the infrastructure has been brought down to its needs. and in addition, there's been been looting of humanitarian supplies, medical supplies, the m. s. stuff has been hit badly, they've had their cars stolen, magic a know re kits that were brought in to help the victims of the rape cards that had been occurring have lost all access to that. so the truth is the truth in name only because ever since the 1st day, you know, there's been no cease fire, so to speak. there was relative peace and that's i say about the quote unquote in quotation marks. but in general this because the ceasefire wasn't going to work if there was no implementation of accountability on both the, the r assess and this of these army. and i keep hearing,

but they have methods in place, but we, we need methods. now we need action. now we need accountability. now they need to be held accountable for the continuous breaking of all the cx. 5 that's been new, it's been more than a month. this with no change in this, in the left. if it's a new laptop, no change in the comments in the situation and so that needs keeps getting worse. people have lost their livelihoods. people who depend on daily incomes have nothing . people have lost their homes, their businesses. i think more than a 1000000 have been internally displaced, in addition to those who were already in turn it in space from previous conflicts. that's alone. those who are able and lucky enough to get out of the country. so it's a catastrophe, and i think it's, it seems that the international community is kind of dragging its feet and it's a with, in regards to how to rec, to react to this crisis. when in fact they should have reacted yesterday. not today, not tomorrow, the beach, the reactor from the,

from day one. and the longer the takes for them to react. the longer the worse it becomes, for those who are still in so done and even those who are outside, you know, because a lot of people outside, they have no income. how are they going to survive? when will they be able to go back? can they go back? there's a lot of questions and no one seems to have the answer to them. and no one seems to want to be able to help to provide those answers. that needs to be in to the point about the efforts by the international community, or as many say lack of, of efforts. what do you say? why do these cease fires keep collapsing and, and from your perspective, do international players or more international players need to be involved in the mediation efforts? well i think um, to be honest, our 1st i need to reactance is based on what mcdaniel mentioned um in a minute. um. so she was talking about accountability and the question is, who can put to the to accountable?

um, unfortunately, if bought 2 years, uh, the r as, as being very big legitimacy. and it was the army. so who gave this legitimacy to the artist outside the beginning. and so now was going to accountable, who had regarding the international community. i think they always believe in pro active and i think the international community i'm screwed up actually helps that to avoid 3 to these points at the beginning. um, a lot of steps could have been taken. uh the moment we had the cool and the on the 25th of october 2021. and a lot of steps could have been taken since that time. a lot of steps we, we've been talking since the beginning about the reform of the army, about the, about the breaking of the of the, our set of courses and doing the possible joining to the one uniformed army we've been talking since the beginning about predicting disobedience and training the

police and the international community was very much more focusing on supporting the political processes that we both. i mean i'm talking about me and you only, but all of us here watching. we know that the political process is, cannot really protect the disability unless they, there is a room to throw in place. and this, if there's a free democracy in the place, i listened, there is an armed men, an armed a body, which is normally the army before, with armies that protecting both democracy and disobedience. i think a little different, but it be a being taking in place right now by the international community is rather trying to stay situation that for me is on the table all along the last already. and we are just trying to put an invitation on what's happening right now. and as they try to call it a damage control. and i can also, i can also add that

a lot of the international community, even the people who are not doing that magician, i'm not seeing a scene all can fucking the situation. and, and they're the cool um, and the, the evidence i read to you because these things have a lot of leaders from both sides, from the army and from dar. so i'm a lot of countries who are also part of the process. i have the account, the money account, and a lot of resources like going to our stuff in the countries and they're not doing anything, just copy of the army. these are, are in hiding where they actually should be in time trying, trying to, as i mean i'm, is control is read. i'm sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt, but i, but i see a seal reacting and i, i want to let her jump in here too. in a seal from your vantage point, do you think the more international actors need to be involved in the mediation efforts? and what about the african union? does it need to have a more prominent role in all of this? a 100 percent. um, 1st of all, just to add to that area and the city were saying,

um, currently there is no ceasefire. there is a uh, there is an apparent violation. and if you ask me, what is the reason it's the lack of trust between the 2 part to the 2 parties. the are step on the south and the lack of leadership? apparently they cannot control their soldiers on the ground. hence, we cannot come to a successful ceasefire. most of these troops and most of the soldiers are young children have been trained to carry guns, but they have nothing and they understand nothing about the international humanitarian laws of war. and this is where we find the face problems. and if i may add, it is up on the you and the do you and council security council to actually work this time on creating an accountability framework. it is on the international community to work on the restriction and on, on the end, on stopping as history and said earlier, it's who is funding garza who must still. and again,

if you ask me who is responsible and who should be the mediator, i would say, of course, the applicant union, we have witnessed back in 2019 the successful democratic transition. and it was the only party that actually took the opinion of the people into consideration into, into the bargain of i have been cosivity in government. it's the african union. it's the advantages of having a common interest regional similarities. and of course, the countries of course be, are, they have more understanding, but also, i must say, there is an absence of the international community and not only in stopping or providing their statements, but in ensuring the rights of those who were, who are, who wants to migrate, where are the direct q countries from this, those who have their passport, shred it, those who are seeking refugees and have the ability to but are not getting any

response from this company, not to force or say or being inc conflicting. but it was more of the same scenario that happened in ukraine where all the international community has to do. but there's a huge absence in the cities. more that i can look on us to begin war as the r a. so at the moment our meeting houses, killing and raping, and this we continue. unless there is immediate actions and interventions from parties that are trusted and committed here to both parties of our so. so thank you . so w i c o. there was talking about a lack of trust being a major issue when it comes to actually trying to get past. the difference is when it comes to actually trying to mediate this and that you need more effective actors . involved the mediation process as well, according to a seal. so i want to ask you from your vantage point, what would it take? what factors need to need to be combined here come together in order to try to in

the find me try to build trust to try to get a lasting cease fire. i mean, would something like sanctions work is, is that a way to go? what, what are the steps need to be taken? i think into absolutely, i think individual sanctions, for example, should have been put in place right after the cool in 2021. but they weren't. and i think also the good to my zation of both the iris stuff and bought han should that should not have happened, but they did. it happened when they were included as part of the civilian government. it was, it happened right after the cool and it's continue to happen did during the transitional, talks into a freight to civilian government. so essentially just i think at this moment in time, sections are the best options that we have is the only thing that will bring them to the table and force them to, to acknowledge the fact that this cannot continue any longer. and i think they've also matches the outsides. introduction with parties that have invested interest

with both sides. need to understand that this, but this will affect the negative to me. it belongs to this conflict continues. i mean, so it's, it's easier said than done, of course, but it's something that has been done and it has been effective in the past. and i goes, i don't understand why it's taking them so long to actually implement these sanctions . but i would also like to add the point to what a seed was saying about the violation of humanitarian international humanitarian conflict law. these violations have been, oh, have always taken places to them. they were taking place in the mountains that were taking place in dar 4 for decades. and no one cares about them because it didn't hit the center. but now because it's coming to the center, all of a sudden we're saying this shouldn't happen. but it's always been happening and these 2 sides, no other way of fighting a war then by these violations. the do not abide by any law, whether it's regional, local or international. this is the method of this is the method of operation. and

we need to understand that this will, we will only get worse, the longer this conflict drugs on. and at this moment in time for me personally, i think sanctions are the way to go and punitive and to the, our measures in place. but those who allow allow the 2 sides to continue that should also, you know, the publish it is, can also reach to that mode can affect them and when they are the other, otherwise you'll have. i mean, already we think so many people trying to flee. so then, and our neighboring countries themselves, they also have problems. egypt has a come on me problems if you'll be a chad. no one wants to see an influx of what people come and get an adding to their own press to their own was. but this is what's happening, it will continue to happen. and then you also have influx of people internally. like i said, there's no infrastructure in place. so how do we so that i see, let me ask you about one component of the humanitarian crisis right now. the red

cross has warned that it would be impossible to relocate large numbers of sued in these refugees streaming into neighboring chad before the start of the rainy season in late june. what does that mean when it comes to contending with color with malaria, with, with other factors? how much more difficult does that make the situation? ok, right now we're speaking about 80 to 90000 people says the start of the war that how strong to plus from that for this is a huge number given that it's just being 4 weeks despite quoting you. i'm guessing that and putting comes in context. we need the bedrooms for your pope in the come to court disease. we've been working. we have something called the emergency room for, for, for breathing season. unfortunately, fortunately, i'm fortunately, director mr. of help is trying to resume its work right now from river mile from but they created a center there where the federal mixture of health himself is there. this operation

team will try to work on helping the whole situation. but what is going to happen is that the re rainy susan, other that it will increase the, the, the malaria cases, the color or the water will be the, will be act clean. actually, other than that, there injuries that might happen, people might fall into the month, they might break their hands. there is no availability of the services around the borders. there are no hospitals, i think it's one hospital bordering from top to the 4. and the measures that we've taken public health and communicable disease to stop and eradicate those diseases which include giving button that's given on to call her medication given antibiotics. but are we able to even reach their i'm a sub, had one of their people killed in that for just yesterday. they had their um, stores new to the federal ministry of hope is trying to get there. but the are

a step are, are building this wall against that area. they're using humans as a shield where we will, we be able to reach there. and that's a question to be answered. but it is, it is quite hard. i don't, i'm not even speaking about this that are good question about the see from the board. but you should know that about 300000 people have tried to flee the country when really and people are certainly displaced right now. can we provide for these people? are the authorities able searches be, have been affected and sit down right now. um, so we all trying to better understand how the international community strong just the you it has split $2400000.00 in community or a just a gun, but currently 50, more than 50 percent of the news population are i need the family didn't 8 are on our own, they're the property line. can we help them all can be reached the bolts,

especially those in the complex area to assume they are seeking the grounds. i see the army, i'm sorry to interrupt the but we're just starting to run out of time and i want to, i want to expand on what you were saying. i want to ask um this reading about this as well. mystery and the fact that matter is the logistics when it comes to the rainy season, starting in in late june. i mean that just makes it exponentially more difficult to deliver aid. whether there's fighting, going on or not, right? it's just going to make it so much harder, correct as well. and i think you are forgetting a very important fact, which is that when the rainy season start is actually the seasonal part of the culture. and if we miss this is a, then we would definitely have of funding this year. definitely. so if you're talking about a very bad situation right now, we are talking about disastrous situation and 3 or 4 months is because simply that it goes to susan was missed this year because of the conflict happening. i mean,

it is always very important to look ahead, smoke only problems we have right now, but the problems we will have even more bigger in the very near future, i'm talking about 34 months is ahead of us. and of course, it is very much you difficult going to be doing anything even doing accounts for other projects, even reaching some points because that is a very poor infrastructure in terms of pro it's in terms of transportation. so it, it will be almost impossible to tell our place of having said that, it's also very important to highlight that. so that is one of the very bundle of companies to quite a change which even make the situation of the people even worse the past week. so then i hated the very high degree. so often bridge her committee to the a i would come to you and ask and come to a applicant continent, then the region. and it was the hot sport of the continent for the past week. and i'm talking about, i'm saying just because

a lot of population in hospital and outside comfortable have to spend all of these days in this very hot weather for most 49 to 50 degrees with no electricity and no a season. no final notice on fox michigan. i'm i'm, i'm sorry to interrupt you again. we just got about a minute and a half left. i just want to ask one last question to w. w. humanitarian organizations have said that the ongoing conflict is to dan has had a devastating impact on women and girls. how vulnerable are women and girls right now? and please remember, we just have about a minute and a half left please. a very absolutely, especially the younger females, the race reports of rape have been increasing their hire, awaiting and they don't have access to to help whether it's trauma health or rape kids or seeking medical help. they have no access and this is going to get worse because i think the more people are able to leave the more the stories that will come out. and there's also women who are pregnant are about to jew to give birth in no, uh where the facilities to where the medical facilities is. just

a nightmare for women, for females, whether they're pregnant or young girls or whatever it know it's. and unless the agencies are able to get to them and offer their health, which of my understanding is they aren't able to, there's a lot of them are still stuck in ports to them because go out, it's going to be dire. we're going to see we're going to have a periphery called risk stories of women who are pregnant and have complications and goals have been raped and probably falling pregnant or catching diseases or just the trauma that they've been through. and it has it's heartbreaking to, to see, to, to know this isn't supposed to happen. i think it's happening right now. so it's, it is heartbreaking indeed. we have run out of times. we're going to have to leave our conversation there. thanks so much. all of our guest masvie and assign him a senior dice and the the a i've done. i'm and thank you to for watching. and you can see the program again, any time by visiting our website. i'll just share

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