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you get your pod cast, the hello there. i'm just as you change or how with the top stories here on out to 0. the governor of florida rhonda santas has officially entered the 2024 republican race full. the us white house. i'm running for president to lead our rate. americans come back. he's released this campaign video off to making the announcement on to it says live audio streaming platform desantis will take on has one time back up republican frontrunner donald trump as well as several of the candidates she advertise the has more on to it as technical glitches that threaten to the rail that launch the other time when in the republican party itself, there's that sense, the electricity, this is what they always say. the desantis is not ready for prime time. it was prime time. and clearly it took 25 minutes for him to get guy to that,
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but it probably in bold and some of his opponents separately in, in the primary fiber order of age. we already think they're going to be 3 or 4 people who are announcing that he needs to make that impact soon to show that he can be a formidable forces games. donald trump, you've started quite quite pulled numbers up to 3 months ago that there's a split enormously. now that he's running, he's going to have to start pretty quickly. but he is, he is a force to be reckoned with, otherwise that none from vote in the primaries will be split among so many candidates and trouble just woke them. bells have been tolling and invalidate texas for the 19 children and 2 teachers who were killed. one year ago today in a school shooting, a candlelight vigil was also held. police was strongly criticized for the way they responded that day. the ways of nearly an hour before attacking the shoot to present or advise and pay tribute to the victims of the shooting. and he called again on congress on states to pass what he's going in common sense gun safety laws . you still need to be in my view, a are 50 firearms solve weapons. once again,
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you know they've been use time and again, mass companies have innocent children and people need to bad high capacity magazine . easy ability to shoot 203-040-5060 bullets without reloading because the day guns remain the number one killer, the number one killer children in america guns. a palestinians have been wounded in a raid by israeli soldiers on the outside job, a refugee camp and the occupied westbank. 17 people were detained. and his really forces said to have stopped medical personnel from getting into that comes in jericho. israel says it's been carrying out a counter terrorism operation. it has been heavy fighting. and so you don, between the army and the power and the 3 rapids support forces despise these 5 hospitals that are struggling to provide critical k. russia is accusing you create enough targeting one of its worship, so the black sea must go says its forces repelled the attack by 3 ukrainians.
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speedboats rushes defense ministries. as the boats were neutralized, the russian vessel had been guarding the tux stream and blue stream pipelines which carry a gas from russia to k. the head, russia, as wagner group, meanwhile, says more than 20000 of his troops have been killed. and the 9 months bottles of the eastern ukrainian city of buck was, if any provision has warned that russian needs to prepare for what he's courting a hard war, he says the criminal admission to demilitarize ukraine has best find columbia song . it says it's found new clues in the search for, for indigenous children who appear to have survived a plane crash last month. the group includes an 11 month old baby. they will and go to small plane that crashed in the southern ca ketchup province. rescue teams have found more items in the jungle they think could belong to the children. 3 adults, including the pilot and the children smell that were killed in the crash type for your mobile. his last to be us pacific territory of guam with powerful winds and
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heavy rain. the storm broke gusts of up to 220 kilometers an hour so far. there are no reports of any serious injuries. tina tana, known to millions of fans as the queen of rock'n'roll, has died after a long illness. she was 84 years old. she dominated shots around the wild with trunks including we don't need another hero and the private dogs. well those are the headlines. laura will have one use it for you here. often the price of progress do stay with us. the, [000:00:00;00] the,
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things, i don't know, but except that we have regulation. we once we get ation as english and if we don't behave then yes, penalty. that's fine. the always case of the industry makes money, of course it does. if the industry does not make money, how many people will be on work, the worst sort of the last concern, the public interest and the public safety is definitely not taking precedence. corporate interest, corporate profits had been getting priority with the regulator, so that needs to change. and one of the big ways to do that is just to require transparency we. we lost the transparency. we would like to publish everything the use. it's just not allowed and reassessed. i cannot say, we don't care. there's intellect, property rights, but we, if so we publish everything. it would just be breaking the law,
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the a, prefer intellectual property to the house of children. the if you make money out of selling pesticides, how much incentive does these companies do? these companies have to get us off pesticides, who they make sure that we get to use less pesticides or who they make sure that we use always more pesticides. the today industry pieces to spend millions of euro's not being to day radiation is the state of researching, substitutes and how to make these things different. the,
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it's in the industries an interest to bring food to the tables that it's safe, that it's high quality. that is reasonably priced so that you and i and all of those people working in food industry can also sit down and eat a good, nutritious food every day as a reasonable price. the progress involves risk, you are referring to an to accident. so you just really easy to talk to them so people are injured or people die every time just happens for industry in general defeats however, those incidents also allow us to improve, to do it better next time and to progress. and there is no progress without an analysis of risk versus benefits. the, where the progress is probate moving forwards, whatever,
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and using any technology we are capable of inventing. but it's not because we know how to do something that it's useful that it's good for, for the people we, we should put some intentions on what technology and what progresses. i don't think that progress is viewed in the future. generations house by using tons of chemicals that 15, that can create disease and he's cancer or to someone who's going to use all that
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stuff to the if we weren't today was a profession, your principal problem. you really don't have openings and these would not exist because everything, sometimes they fall down. so there is a risk. we would not have automobiles because every year in europe, how many 5060000 people die with the accidents. so progression, reprints the point i think is a disaster. and it just seems, once we all know one more advocating and you applies to other culture. we are farming in europe with less substances than most americans. most americans use this tools, you know, seats,
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because we don't use g m o 's. we don't use technology. i mean, it doesn't make sense. we want to participate and be competitive on a global scene or not the new if we have this romantic idea or formulas. business people to say was never called debates. something that is dangerous and they would never cultivate something. they don't need fittest business people and we shouldn't that them to the business the and we can't expect them to act in any other way except as the only way that would change is this. there is a,
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a root and branch revolution in the way that we do business. and that would need to involve all corporations all over the world because as long as we treat like a global commodity, we have a very big problem. the and part of that problem is the food will go to the highest bidder and the highest bid or may not be someone that wants to feed you the highest bid, or maybe someone wants to feed your car. this is entirely the wrong way to look at food. food should be food, the
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reason disease all about making money, the products in some of the big corporations it's about the form of the big uniform lens with one called maximum. it's about corporate control. that is mostly also economically it's about international markets import export. it's all about companies controlling in far away places. lands which bought commodities is another box for production is not about feeding people. the industrial agriculture is a form of mining and it produces raw
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materials and then you subject raw material. it's to various uses at the most of the use go into animal food and text us 5, a fuel, whatever you have, the rest of it can be sold more expensive to some other use will go into process in food processing. the so is foot necessity, always food, a business transaction, food as both. yeah. so we all need to eat. that's for sure. but in europe we have a very comfortable full stomach conversation. we haven't had a family in uniform, severe, so we have no idea what it means to have the choice between one to a month to another month. so we have 10 to you. doesn't really matter to us if we have a 2 motor marked on here. and i think we are unaware of the impact or decisions
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here have on countries where there is no food, no a days. this is the big confusion between which is a genuine interest in the interest of industry. because the priorities jobs and growth and it states roost at jobs are more important to people's nights. the, the food industry is successful, will create more jobs, will create more value added, it will create more throat. so i don't see why we shouldn't also fight for the interest of the industry, but this should be a community of fights. a modern hybrid culture relies on satellites relies on precision farming, which is the connection between centralized digital machinery and then all of the
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tools which are available for farmers. unfortunately, i think europe is losing its edge as far as pre production agriculture because of an overly conservative restrictive regulation. and these tradeoff between progress and the risk is not what under the i think your opposite is the best potential to be leading agricultural region in the world. we shouldn't be the ones who is the best jobs, and the most invested in seats in hybridization, genetically express the sites, gave me cause machinery. we shouldn't be because we have everything we need to
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succeed. and my fear is that we are not using these potential to, it's much in what we want to see is something very different. is the model built on diversity on biological diversity. that is, you know, different crops planted together, crop rotations, the do we get as humanity, our act together to change and reconfiguration together. how we operate on this planet? or we will make also subsidy. the that's defining, moving, and we have to put the technologies in place where they belong. they have to be then assistant to our goals. well, many people, if i say that would say yes, yes, of course makes sense. but i have not understood that this is not where we are now
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. we are now defining future visions through a technology lenses. but i want to turn it around. i want that we have a collective vision where we want to be and how we want to design our environment are now foot system that operates was in the planetary boundaries. as scientists, i've been to find you where i'd respect the rules of the planet and not vice versa, that we manipulate our planet to the point where it meets our needs in economic terms. what progress do we want? are we willing to trade off some of the benefits for some of the risk because we're facing a world which is more, more globalized?
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so we are up against the other parts of the world, which do not always play with the same rules. the, the geo political issues and parts of the world where there is less food. and we need to find ways to get food, those costs and it was either $28.00 or 2 a producing of themselves to produce more food on the same amount of land. because we don't use more land. ecology is more resources, the
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c one sick he's or the moment all you simply the command of a photo. most titles obviously, yes. accumulate going on. we come into a seem to be side mueller's that. don't allow us to plug issue that's got a new plan. okay. and remember, we were one of them. i'm getting dollars. you made equal the do you imagine the number of friendly diseases that are in every family today is not due to new viruses or new microbes that have been found in all press concepts once. that's not true. so it is due to apartment and to probably
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poisons that's out in the environment. what all the chronic poisons designed to be toxic initially and spread all over the place for us to start the yes it did to ship it because of my my daughter book need all that i'm credit. does she think that you're trying? you're continuing with the mama can you can see have you anything else for me? the cool? no. what i said about a pos credit to take you to this time you go to the mama you from i told you me to stop equal, you know, mean i'm a pull of the my vehicle so they take to the, into the sun, either the volume this is the best to go see on. so the ducks it goes to look point. okay. maybe i'm in
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the they don't know go make demos in there. are they usually i like this to be a photo must say with the game this, the guess over the less cover the what the noise levels to i usually 50 located and again out of the nato, the into the i don't the because of it because this will start to skip within the there's a 2 bit in menu. us, the locate call may of a speed, a baby, the ship waste, a total of interest to consume. more people cost that us with us. yes. by sent on through our list this you soon talk see gus, but a lot of the approval for the own, but i'll just use the modem on, on oak, on city finish. i stuck in on piece of stuff. they just use the separative well within, by subject on us from the know the saying, no, i cannot the she doesn't know to put on your leave. we do must you model she'll,
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she'll to you. if you have, we'll get a few minutes. we also bundle the last few months to open up route to see if he's wanting you to might be think i'll shoot it to him from you until you meet with the to see a scene football soon because he cannot go get it. but i will because he will see to it, but i'm a few that getting into my to get on the team, go get, put a lot of them in the top corner mechanical components and we will, we will put a line. so all of us giving it to me updated to be sent out here in my new product,
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and we still have them data lens. one of us will be document tomorrow. no, it's on the in the most guffy, but i can't seem to be on it. but it can only cut i plus 40. i gave it to us. it's in the me to the she's in give me a buzz back and forth. don't seem to be the wallet you'd have to think of. okay, and do i do that for this or do i have to talk to the media? no. forget about to do the for the title and sort of see the of my daughter, she's of in plastic. will my daughter see the, the law and what i see only in the south end, they've conflict, but a lot of those go not law say that the for the real model. see of, you know, the ma'am indeed many, it was the openings to modern agriculture have understood that it's and it's easy to, to scare people. it's easy to and to use fear as a strong,
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an emotional driver for a change in policy and for influencing policy. sometimes it's in the interest of the industry groups to do the ass, of course, because it keeps them at work brings in money for them as well. so i think we should look at this from both sides. we sometimes have visits from them. recently they invaded this building and they have done so before and threw me in your and threatening classroom stuff. hospice but okay, that's part of the game. i suppose. we do not. we, you know, when we fight against, when we fights, he gets when we try and dialogue with people that we don't have the same weapons. i sometimes have the feeling that and we have bows and arrows and they have different bonds. as soon as there's an end, your group of people who are again something maybe, maybe the advantage, maybe they stop using it, maybe they sell them 14. so in terms of development and trust,
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i think we risk losing a lot of trust as a region when i say industry has the truth. we know what's in our products, for example like that. if i, if i make a product mean you can go home. this evening and make it buy a in your kitchen. you know, what's. ringback there and you write it down, that is the truth. sorry, but to know we are an industry, we know what we pushing our products. we can tell you, this is the truth. this is what we push them in our products. when i say we have to truth, i'm talking about and i'm not talking about philosophically the truth, i'm talking about what we do, we know what we do and we can talk about that the,
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let them know there's a cover, you don't a domain really very assume that they face or less something, the 50 seed, these are jam, they put it on and then i have read the book to please understand the need to sort them into see it back to them on acre uh and these are house for the if you demo the these, if you guys show me and these in the citizen just to you know, find someplace god, you can see for $0.50 a month from now school. they don't on a glass when that was where we don't need science and i was planning on doing visual still under the same most i thought you should have this you may or was it shows you for the or the coffee. don't see it. no, no, our quotes re coffee, those here it does it for several or something. coffee, they'll send for me with his shots. if he pull over the 3rd party consumer apple to solve for cook and it could pass on. i live side where they have the hour for zones
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on those. carly, i've done these. i shall east of precision roller. so i think for me, so i did have a probably most onto the works out of their existence. it slowly shift as a principal present, as a correspondence with any breaking the story we want to hear from those people who would normally know that that voice is heard on the international news channels. one moment i'll be very proud all was when we covered the fullness quake of 2015 at the terrible natural disaster. and a story that needed to be told from the hall of the affected area to be then to
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tell the people story. it was very important at the time of the not to make sense to suffer this because behind the suffering from millions of taxpayers. because those tax pays never go away. there's a new one bone every single day. i mentioned it is emerging national necessities for me personally as an official your question and it will be a new version of this important mechanism we created together because i happen to live increase somehow. i'm a center, i'm
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a bad person that's machine on outages era. the a hold of them or a coil in the hall. the top stories here on out is there. um the governor of florida run desantis has officially entered the 2020 full republican race to the us white house. and i'm running for president to lead our rate. americans come back easily. is this campaign video often making the announcements on twitter, the live audio streaming platform? desantis will take his one time back over public confront run that donald trump as well as several other candidates in florida. bells have been towing and validate taxes for the 19 children and 2 teachers who were killed one year ago in the school shooting kind of vigil was also held. family members of the victims have been
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demanding guns, safety place was strongly criticized for the way they responded. that day, a way to get an hour before tackling was due to even though children were cooling the emergency services were present. joe biden paid tribute to the victims of the shooting has called again on congress and states to posit what he's cooling, common sense, gun safety laws, you still need to ban and my view a are 50 firearms solve weapons. once again, you know they've been use time and again mass companies of innocent children and people. we need to bad high capacity magazine usability issues. 203-040-5060 were bullets without reloading. because the day guns remain the number one killer, the number one killer children in america guns has been heavy fighting and through dom between the army and the par note to rack and support forces. despite to cease
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find hospitals of struggling to provide critical, can russia is accusing ukraine of talk to one of its bullshit and the black sea must go says its full says repelled the attack by 3 ukrainian speed. but it's russian vessel has been guarding the tech stream on please stream pipelines, which carried gas from russia to tech. yeah. a tina china known to millions of funds as the queen of rock'n'roll has died after a long illness. she was 83 years old. the sea dominated shots around the world are tracks including we don't need another harris and 5 it down. so there's your headlines with back with more news of the
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the the that is that companies have to submit studies to european commission. they do the studies themselves after submitted studio commission and to esa, so the pain from safety authority. and they have a panel of experts that looks at the studies and then they say, okay, safe or not. uh so what do we have found is that within these expert panels, we have a lot of people with dice with the food industry. so that means the conflicts interest the . so if someone wants to also replace the product in your, let's say
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a plan protection product, this person, because this person or these company, the applicant, has to provide data that allows us, as the risk assessors to judge whether this product is safe or not. and this information comes from the applicants and the studies that are commissioned by the applicant to allow us to assess the safety page by the applicant, obviously. so it's the intellectual property of the applicants. and we can property each box of these studies in the car, in the legal framework. but we also have to respect the pieces confidentiality claims of the applicants. so there is a balance to be found between transparency as much as possible, but also to protect the, the investment of companies in to the product innovations. exactly like in the middle ages you were asking to the priest, what is a truth in?
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no, you ask to these scientists and regulatory agencies, what is the truth and they act in the same manner as magician. you know, because they work on secrets from phones. we see chris effects, they say that you cannot police that however they say they have the truth. the if you spend i sewage amount of money doing study a study on something where there's a lot of confidential information in there that you don't want. another company to copy paste, of course not. i mean, you might have spent years a lot of resources. so people time, a lot of time on the money, i'm doing this research at what x it does is it, i'm a licensed oldest, i should publish it the results. so it will publish and it will come out with the
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statement at the end. and, and it will publish the results, but it won't publish all the details and what a lot of people want to see because there are people for our relative eyes. ok. because so it's actually a lot of people, but some people and i want to see everything. that's fine. i think now it's actually open publish, but you're talking about several thousands of pages. i don't know who in his white mind would sit down and read through all of those pages. i think of some parts can be blacked up, but i would insist that that's to do with privacy. so the relationship between all companies and research institutes and universities is quite strong. and as i mentioned before, in many parts of the world, it tends to be the public sector developing the products, thanks to relationship with the company. maybe the company donated the technology. the problem in or outside zone full is that an s, so that you mentioned before, they have scientists assessing the products. and the scientists have
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a obligation to have no conflict of interest. that means they have to have, have no relationship whatsoever with industry ever. so if you're a scientist and you're having a, any kind of dealing with a company close as a number of avenues of work later. so again, we are really champions and creating difficulties for ourselves in europe, but the rest of the world is doing fine. the what are your out of jo hollingsworth for monsanto, and with me is my partner, eric lasker, and to his right is john kayla. and next to john is mimi line.
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write them the thank you very much know your colleagues to the 2nd final, which will look at the transparency and use of scientific studies and the assessment of life of state in the united states. and the hopefully will provide insights into the so called most of the papers. thank you very much for inviting me to be here today as a journalist for some 30 years now. i'm someone who has spent most of my life focusing on fax, pursuing the truth. i've spent roughly 20 of those 30 years building into the dealings of monsanto. and i can confidently tell you that the story of the company's top selling chemical glasses say, is not one of truth, but one of deceit. it's sort of a treasure trove and look inside a very big and powerful company that has been very secretive, you know,
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for decades. and a lot of the information is quite alarming. when it comes to public health and safety associated with the use of their popular product life and state and round it . another way in which montana has manipulated regulators in the public is by establishing networks of scientists around the world to support its agenda. and it's message about the safety of this chemical, monsanto, and, or the monsanto back let's, as a task force, pays them the lobby regulators. they author papers, essentially, to push this message that the chemical is safe. there are many individuals and there are many types of different relationships that we've seen in these documents . you can see here that professor dave kirkland is one such paid, expert montana was relied on
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the 2012 months and was very worried about gina toxicity questions arising from 5 to say, research when it engaged person. monsanto needed someone to help counter these concerns that were for assisting what bill hayden's wrote in the email. i think i was just naive and it clearly did not lead to any policy decision. we all have decades of experience in the industry, and therefore we have reputations to maintain. and that means that there is no point in those being all responding to the influence of, of one stakeholder over another because those reputations wouldn't be destroyed. i can say absolutely the end. it says the goal, like categorically this paper was not ghost written. we all inputs our own
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sections to the paper. there was no input involvement or influence of the review by monsanto. i think you well, it seems a pair of the months santo, actually fears, real independent, authentic science months center said itself, it feared the i r for of you, when it found done in 2014, this is for eric sat down before the classification. monsanto says that fears this, it says internally that it knew it had vulnerability and epidemiology toxicology geno talks most center officials even predicted the glass of state would warrant a possible or probable rating with respect to f. as in echo, you know, s as a process is defined as a peer review and i understand that and that's, i don't have a problem with that peer review problem in this case is that's not, was, was done. nobody went back and verified the findings on the original studies. and by failing to verify those findings, it cascaded through the entire review process,
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such that you don't have the answer which is based on the best science hudson. this is important to me some that we are doing the proper independent assessment and that the, according we did research that the be happy nessa, according to the regulations that focus on the use of the active assessments. and based on that, we generate the assessments regarding the independence from industry is clearing the legislation. i would say the 6 is the basic principle, the company that the ones to market something the you must pay for the assessment. so the studies have conducted by industry, there is no doubt the current process is scientifically floyd. it is time to have an independent panel assigned to evaluate the way in which the science has reviewed . there's a need for the regulatory agencies to re analyze the data, and there's a need to publish, do publicly release all of the analyses and data to improve the transparency of this process. these are not the actions of
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a company that has nothing to hide. this is not how you promote a product. this is that's actually proven safe. this is how you whitewash unfortunate and unprofitable facts. this is not by accident, but by design, and it serves monsanto very well, but it does not seem that it serves the public interest. thank you. the monsanto prepared certain documents for the registration and the as a report, if you look at it, has taken directly certain language from the monsanto documents and just placed it in the us a report. so there's a lot of concern about whether f so really did an independent analysis or whether they just took the position to be against i or at monsanto's request. so that is not an independent assessment. how can we verify or expect that on the basis of such robust scions? and i'm quoting industry, we can make a decision. politicians in the you can make a decision to protect the people that if somebody you know has said hello to the
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industry at some stage in his life, that should not mean that that particular scientist should be banned from a panel. or, you know, research has been funded somewhere by someone. many of the scientists that have longer than half now left the organization and their science panels because they have been accused of having worked with the industry. but since when does that make a scientist dishonest? the why. so having worked with the industry some years ago on the small projects, at some stage i did, i'm a scientist by training. and when i was in university, of course i was looking for a grant to do my research. because some research can cost a lot of money. i was helped by industry. i haven't spoken to that particular industry now for for many, many years. it's been a long time since i was in college. but that doesn't mean i'm dishonest. as
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a scientist. the know you're estates to be in the region where influence is very high and other regions look at europe for, for regulation. and that's why it's so important that you're at the keeps regulation which is scientific, which is database. and which as much as possible, decides result being influenced by,
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by i would say by noise or by, in just the emotions and fear the with science meets values. and it's becoming complicated as we come with science, with evidence we do and as a scientific process of risk assessment. but then this evidence is given on another stage on the policy levels. they are believes emotions, values come in. and what we see is a 40 additions don't like the outcome of our risk assessment. they don't question therapy leave. they question the validity of the process. so basically if it's a comes with an opinion, let's say on they only continuing its insects decides what additions allows. i have so they want the food as so you are protecting the bees. you're doing the right
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thing really going to act on that. so we all applaud to you, and it's the same process with the same people. what is the same scrutiny? comes with the conclusion? let's say i'm glad for say, people say, i'm sorry, i don't like these off come. if so, she would not say the tie for say this relative pretty safe. so as so must be corrupt. i find this very bizarre, you know, regulations is independent of corporate influence and, and it's everything is tested actually tested and with a lot of money and, and, and, and our authorities are looking at it independently. i don't know where these people have been living even in some of the mainstream, john is you don't find reports that clearly explained that this is not happening.
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we are seeing corporate capture not only in the sciences it sciences is one of the fields we see corporate capturing in every walk of life. the . i'd like to say it seems to be very highly charged. not because of the safety of dr for say, but because of g and because of one song though, because of international trade, maybe even because of inequality, with global traits, to facade assessments itemized. i guess that's the mazda for positive 50 feet. then you facade, supposed to out and put in at opa, then yeah, and medium box model, if it was to get x p direct and solution to that in people soft support. business
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districts. really awesome story to fill out the of course, if the science is works for the company, that's a different story. but i think we need to be a little bit more realistic about what it is we want. do we want the best scientists to assess the products, the guess to make sure they're safe? or do we want to make sure there's no conflict of interest? what does the objective is of the safety of the product? because of the conflict of interest of the, of the scientist, i think we need to be a bit more honest and trustworthy without falling into the mistake. so. so that's not something that we are looking for. i mean, the, the, the experts we use are as independent as possible, but i think also here it's not black or white. it's not c or, or one that's not the digital binary approach. we have to find the right balance
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between the best expertise between people that have done research, the people that are with both the feet in, in the scientific endeavor. and on the other end to make sure that there is no conflict of interest. and if i may say, or somebody, i think europe needs to make a decision whether we know, i think i stop here. yes. that's what leads to far the change, but they don't ask of a medium. she'll get off of it then in addition to the height of going to us already. so i see on is a total of need is the left of america shown as a sample and take a set that all the hung up. i mean, fluid and last, or kind of stuff. you know, once you let that i live in atlanta. so need to look into this one after that, i'll put a simpler little say less, but i really like,
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i'll meet you in the band and, but i'm in total bill, you have the control that i can see that that's when i skip it off on and on here, i don't know if that's alice, but if we can move it out and it's been kind of thing that the cutting that the so yes, precautionary principle is and di, scientific and it is, i think it's a big issue for you. okay. and economy in general, because it reduces the income, the willingness of sudden investment the there is a risk in registering a new purchase. so this is a risk. this is a benefit. i'm
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a willing to take this risk. yes or no. and the regulation today gives us an answer if you look at the car of today, it is much safer than the call yesterday. you know, the 1st car that i drove in when i was a boy and my father was driving, had no safety built in the house. no, i had no airbag and underway be yes and uh, and its z. com acre was not the murder. it is a car was exit and it was a very safe call for the time. and i'm not saying that the bessie says of 1950. uh you know where? fantastic. but by then they were very with bessy side. and then we'll just go over the house on the side effects and then the regulation. evils and regression becomes more demanding and especially sides of bond or are withdrawn from the company. and that's no more that's normal. it will ition of any industry, the power of innovation doesn't come from the big companies. the big companies are too big to be innovative anymore. i just want to preserve that present that just,
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but they're not innovating anymore. let me look at look at the the, the gm and the pesticides were dealing with gm plants that were develop 13 years ago. nothing has changed, its be notified resistance since the beginning it's old color. so the integration in the innovation is that we now have in addition to round the ready. busy and roundup resist implants, we have become a resistant plans and to for the resistant place. so we're getting an even more cocked toxic cocktail, even though it's that innovation, it has to get out. it just has to get benefits versus risk, right? what is a risk? you're willing to accept on the environment, even if it's very small, in order to have a safe and affordable food supply. the,
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to me, the defining factor in the future will also be around all acro fruit system. if we manage to get our, in my view, this functional aggregate food system, on the sound, environmental, economics, social and economic basis. then we solve everything else we come from or even climate change and these things health issues and are mental issues. social issues are collateral. they're all part of the, of this whole thing that is connected and the connect to connecting, sent a piece is, is food. and how you produce the, because we see the world as these
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we are in fact, at the border age of the revolution. because human kind is able to do that, how much time that will take, how much i mean misery is that will create i don't know, but that's i'm for me. you know, the reason the french writer co pay a hobby, he said this is a collie bri, i fair. so i'm just a little bird in the system doing my job as much like the in europe. we're not going to give off. we're not gonna. there are lots of other technologies, it's not just about general. there are lots of other technologies coming up and the companies are committed to invest in yourself as well. despite that,
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being so uncomfortable is a euphemism to work. the or the hello. the weather still looks a little this the dentist to care for us further south. well, as you drive across a good path of the arriving peninsula, be some pieces of cloud that goes to the west and passed all the saudi arabia. we'll see some showers lingering here over the next task. so right into the west of
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a human as well. so the know if you go with ice shala's just around took a pushing across to was the cold because he's over the next couple of days. just nothing a little further east with think for friday last you try across the right information . the highs even though hot around 41 degrees celsius. victor. destiny sent that into iraq. and to know the past of saudi arabia moving areas of egypt to st. quite a breeze blowing as we go on through the next couple of days. moving i was about to area saying some heavy rain over the next day or 2 that could cause some localized flooding. not flash flooding with a positive commission again, some very heavy rain photo, some really heavy right into west africa banning. tow god, god pushing across into guinea, seeing some very heavy right. that could cause some a localized flooding as well. so let's continue across the house of africa, the seasonal range. of course it didn't quite nice the you've gone to sing some live you should i was can. yeah. and some of the south is that lot you drive but
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rain for cape town, the police, the police locate them and they will send is drex for belongings under the scorching come a desert, personal children. the rest of these 2, i to enter been for 5 days. we are forced to do this, trying to integrate this way because that's the no one shit for straight force doors west of precedence, west for united nation west 2013. it's funny, blah blah blah. for now, the only option for these migrants to venture into the desert at night, but the walk for the 6th 2 numbers to reach the regional capital. it is proceeded, ask permission to send more military to it's borders. unfortunately,
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