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because it is important. we create it together because i happen to live increase somehow. i'm a center. i'm a bad person that's machine on outages era. the high of 70. okay. sense of watching the screen. a $193.00 countries have agreed to end plastic pollution. that's the entire membership of the united nations. now they have to put on a legally binding document on today's episode of the string. we also care about how to tackle past the pollution award is at stake globally. your thoughts, your comments put right here on each meeting on stage one, agree on measure to standardize the design of plastics. so the say to use and be cycle. i would really like to see countries take
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a human and environmental health approach to addressing the full life cycle of plastics through mandatory measures. what we need are a range of measures by cop virgin plastics. production that we shape parsons, of consumption, and that protect valuable and vulnerable communities such as waste because those and small island developing states that are on the front line of plastics, pollution and also want to help remediate as well impacts on may the 29th united nations environment program will be hosting round to all of these negotiations to talk about the global plastics treaty, who's going to be at the table, one of the big issues with joining us to talk about this in paris, we have andres the castillo, as senior attorney with the center for international environmental though in california in the us show peachtree, executive director of people out of plastic and implants. i am a long way to one game is in mara. go upon that and competing with the development
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n g o t f fund is really good to have you. i think 1st of all, what is going to be the most controversial aspect of rental 2 of these negotiations? alice neal that embarrass? what are you? what are you not looking forward to having to do things in discuss to thank you so much the same for the invitation. this is really timely conversation. i'm on. i'm really glad to, to charge the party and with the, with the other part of these, the 1st of all the week, you cannot really feel here in periods that i'm beyond of the, of what is going on with the plastic 22nd round negotiations. why? because 1st you have seen the whole week, we have many, many events, you know, with the per month and they will say, tours and yours. everybody's coming together to try to set the scene on the tongue or what will be a really difficult negotiation. first, what i don't want to see is and deals outside of the you and venue of the you,
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i'm building one, everybody that was reduced or to be inside of the building. this is kind of the 1st thing that they want to see on. they want to see discussions on the substance on last discussion seem to proceed on mothers who's at the table to one guy on the right. people at the table. not all that i people a i've under, as it'll did. there was yesterday was that has been discussed at 44 people society who can enter the venue. i think it is important that everybody is represented as it was a fact. and usually has brings in all the different voices because are leaking with different communities. and this treaty is about justice. what about ensuring everybody doesn't my so quick uh, income level you'll uh, should have the rights of age relations that protect l health. i know ecosystems from from the plastic pollution. so. oh oh, i mean,
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oh voices. you'd have that opportunity to be at a, in the room, but at the moment, maybe that, that, that may not be difficult. all right to, to get would you do something for me? you will, mike finished his rubbing on your beautiful blouse just holding away from your blouse. and then we can enjoy the rest of your conversation to play this idea of developing countries and he has not made trip interview go solutions. that's really, really serious. can you tell us why they need to be that? because when we talk about plastic pollution, the rich countries send that caustics to the developing world. so who should be at the table in great numbers, surely the developing? well, that's absolutely cracked and i'm honestly appalled that this is the current situation, and i don't want to speak for our colleagues in the global south since i live in the united states. but i'll give them a reflections based on working on this issue out. the global level, um, as we, we know we've, we've research this type in time again,
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plastic pollutes at every stage of its life cycle from extraction to production and disposal and especially on that disposal. and we know how burden communities in the global south are compared to welfare nations, as you stated. and this is because of the key, a few key reasons which i want to numerate. first, the companies headquartered in the global north are pumping out products of largely low value, single use plastic to countries in the global style to a very different waste management infrastructure, then welfare nations, they simply weren't designed to absorb this amount of waste. and to that point, no country is as we see this playing out in welfare nations. we're outsourcing our plastics problem in the form of waste colonization, which means shipping and dumping ways to last resource countries to deal with. so imagine these nations that are already overburdened with so much plastic and now they're getting dumped by other countries, which is really a moral and ethical question at the end of the day. so i'm absolutely disappointed
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by this decision and, you know, it's also this, this is story about the and equities that continue exec to exist when we talk about plastic and climate impacts. so i'm wondering address, can this be fits quite quickly? the 2nd model negotiations hasn't even started yet. is it too late to bring more people who are impacted by plastic pollution into the 2nd negotiations, or are we talking about? well, that kind of include is the next time. yeah, it's not too late actually, because you will have already more than 2700 people in at. perry stepped are reduced there, but only a few of them will be able to enter even the venue even the corey north. no, i'm not talking even the the room itself because the printer room have some capacity, of course, like for around 1300 people. right. but we are going to see some discussions of
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you're going to sleep during the whole week in smaller rooms that can't bear more than $300.00 people around. so whatever the i've seen day years like on the on of complexity how to make sure that we guarantee the voices of the boss affected by plastic pollution from the at upstream part, meaning extraction or feels the production of, of the petrochemical. so of talk 6 plastics on the waste disposal on the entering to the environment. so how about the guarantee that there are different recipes for the 1st is we want to enter into the room or we need also to be able to see where the negotiation are. hopping in on the printer being we have the technology right now for that, right? this is what we're using right now. yeah. so this is an example of something that we can do now, but these, they call the call of a failed or for toll of cause. they knew that was preventing,
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that was something that they knew that over and over there is an exponential grow, not only in plastic production, but on people interested in negotiations. so you know that if you're going to have $1500.00 for the, for the wrong journal. now kind of how this is the same as are under is this is a logistics failure. but i want to move back to to one day because how you, how you to go for it was in negotiations. it's probably a magic if you're not including all of the voices, particular ones, most impacted. but the reason this is important is because plastic pollution impacts our house. can you give our audience some examples so they, they don't think it's just an all came about the civil society need to be that and developing world needs to be that is because plastic pollution kills us. it exactly . i'll tell you, find me about, i'll tell you about me. i leave in bland tie in the city where i should have,
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i mean this a to should be collecting my waste. i should have the option to separate my waste and, and know that my plastic is, is well disposed of. but i don't, i have to pay private company to come and collect my waste and it is not separated with across the valley from where i'm leaving is a community that doesn't you have the option of a private collection coming to. and so what do they do? that option is do you that been the plastic, which is a health hazard or they dump it in the drain or at nearby river that is close by which piles up increases the risk of flooding us as blood tire. we just had the stipends for the entry. so what's the flooding does this was at a time when we had court. i foresaw, and this plastics can hope i sort of a higher risk of hosting this bacteria that cause cause. and you can imagine in that sort of as the test and in malawi at the moment,
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80 percent of the plastic for just a single used plastic. and we don't have a process for money to go waste or even those people that would want to don't have an option to safely disperse and that they, they don't have they, they, they dump them the brendan because this is what is accessible to them at the moment this shouldn't be i, i like that. and this is why i'm saying it is important that everybody voices is hug. and that, those, that tree to you, that the, that you in past this past treaty addresses these issues makes it possible that everybody has kind of, can, if these up, for example, we're talking about here, there's an issue of production that needs to be reduced. but also for that testing done, the task compound is appropriate measures and everybody has access to those messages to property dispos and are disappointed and also with are these
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recycling. and when we talk about recycling, we obviously bring into people like i'm saying my if somebody who's coming there with because coming to my house and offering this service, we can't ignore those people. and the by the take the plastic that will be sending to those that want to recycle. so they're providing a service and all these voices need to be here that the treaty need to address all these issues that are in the way that they are when we talk about plastic ocean. so if we what's on your mind and i completely agree with what to juan, gave saying it's, it's heartbreaking that there's so much at stake here. and i thought it would be a good opportunity to actually talk about the production piece. so both andras and one day have polluted to the production piece quite a bit and it is essential. 99 percent of plastic does come from an oil and gas based resource. so we can't ignore the start relationship between plastic and fossil fuels. we talk about communities that are more,
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most impacted on the production piece. you know, we have a place called cancer alley in the united states and the gulf south. it's an 85 mile stretch of land between baton rouge and new orleans, louisiana. and it's a predominantly black part of the country and it's literally called cancer alley. it is killing people, so i made to your point. so we have to make sure we're constantly holding industry giants accountable, both on the patch of chemical size. we're talking the x times the dallas and the do punts and make sure they're plans of the plastic production, doubly by 2050 doesn't actually go through and the global plastics treaty is a great way to make sure plastic production is actually prioritized in human health, across this life cycle to own that you mentioned waste pick ups which are often overlooked when we, when we talk about recycling and, and using waste in a very positive way, i just want to show our audience how much waste because are involved in plastic,
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pollution, 60 percent of plastic recycled is collected light, informal waste because to one day when you live, what does that look like? yes. so i, like i've mentioned we've got the those that i provide the service. so i told you how we didn't have an option for me. you have, you know, individuals that com, knock at the, at your gate and offer that service. they can, i take, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll package, you pay them as more something and they take it that way. they saltado get see that the fastest that they can sell to the recycling company, they'll take and, and sell. then we also have uh, the like the company that i'm, that they are using now. so they're taking a plastic, taking them to a dump. that is it, you know, has pad is set up and you have that the with because also there because even in my we do have the initiative small medium enterprises that splashing up the
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enterprises to recycle waste. but because we don't operate at what at so everything is put together, then it is at this dump sites where these people are working and switching out and taking out of the plastic that this one medium enterprises one so that they also put the effort in, in recycling that plastic waste, i guess the most is what i like. i advise you to all day what i like best about where we are at this stage is the people all talking about what is needed to be done, who needs to be in the conversation, but also the united nations environment program also released the report saying this is what we can do practically. nope, it's a problem. we don't know what to do. this is what we can do. we have broken it down as a very straightforward graphic andres. i am volunteering you to help me just a thought as we go through this. the unit is saying by 2040, it is possible to reduce plastic pollution by 18 percent just by using existing
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technology and based on some policy changes. so let's look at some of those policy changes, reduction to just eliminate the problem the necessary plastics in a sentence. iris is that possible and i'm done to the, to this is possible, but we need to understand the plastics are plastic materials on plastic, on our plastics products too. so the reduction part, it needs to be one of the main parts of the equation there. all right, now the i get from you that is really use a promote the reuse of full containers and take back schemes. when i was a kid i ready that days ago used to be after 5 bottles of pop or soda and then you would get them back and you would get 5 p back. and milk came in bottles and then you put the bottles on your doorstep and then they put milk in those bottles again. and then there was no plastic,
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there was no copper containers. that's how you did it. mm hm. so the idea of recycling address. tell me the yeah, the recycling is if you noise coming over and over and over i mean depends the technique that you use. and i will be kind of create the call with the unique report having been having, being invited by them a days before to read to review the october report. when you look at the headlines, of course, they'll give you help us. we can reduce pollution by 80 percent, but then when you look with a magnifying glass, you see that's what they mean by plastic. pollution is not a total reduction of what is the scale of plastic pollution, but only the mismanagement of plastic waste and 3, so far evaluating to say something killing me is i have to 2nd is go ahead. good. i go here, leave that andre blake, this is not the full story, right?
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because the headlines love to do that. let me be clear, you know, just asking governments to invest 54000000000 to clean up the plastic oil and chemical sectors. instead of turning off the tap on plastic and oil production, this is a massive disconnect rate. it also backs the questionnaire around corporate responsibility and verify angel responsibility. in simple terms, plastic is a combination of carbon and chemicals, and we know it's toxic to human health. so i was really hoping it would be a lot more hard hitting on the corporate accountability piece and also framing human health idols out of the all i want to use. and that's the last, the last piece of i'm, i'm doing something big headlines, but it helps us just understand the extent of this you. net report, replace plastic wrap us before tentative materials. so just if it's unnecessary, let's just think of a different ways of packaging our products. she'll be, or yeah, i mean it's, it's kind of what andre, as with say,
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saying about scaling of economies of refill and reuse. the problem is we have become so hyper focused on the convenience solution that it's getting cities to really think about 0 waste infrastructure rather than just the individual and consumer level. so of course, we want to focus on higher volume material that have to recycle ability, like lumina got in glass, but that go to, you just share of like a chip bag. that's when it becomes a little bit more difficult to activate that sort of systems change approach. so one day do you have some ideas of how we can actually get rid of caustic pollution from your part of the world where you're saying actually this is what we're doing and this is what is possible now. so i think, well, what's it we also talked, i'm think i ship it, touched on it a little bit there. is that because of what people used to? i also, he and when i read before, we had the glass bottles that we changed even for our course of the way of searching something. but now the classics came in and they sort of
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a more convenient to, to use and, and keep an eye out taking the, those and take, taking those as the options. so for me, i feel off for my side of the country, we need to look at the old tennessee but other but we also there's a lot to do with people and they have perceptions and also wanting them to, to understand and to, to appreciate them to create linkages because i think important linkages when people understand. so for example, i was talking about the links, we say flooding. you know, city, lots of people asking, how are we, how are we having so much like this wasn't being connected. so when people sort of connect the view impacts of what this plastic do, maybe we can also have that change because that is also important. so people choose not to use an actually wants to, to have the those or say it isn't the month. those alternatives. so that,
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that they made the middle of the level or that the for more said in the way the government was a feeling they don't just look for the most convenient being. that is, yeah, think back. so we sort of move us for that. what we're gonna do some interesting suggestions from our audience who are watching right now on youtube. for instance, we need facts out waste management that involves plastic eating ones to help compost prospect. so that was one idea from youtube. but i also want to give you an idea that came from what you like, what a big oil. this is from exxon and i really entry to see what you think about this. let's have a look. the exxon mobiles facilities in a town near houston, texas. we are turning plastic lease to new materials or extend technologies for advanced recycling. we're breaking down even the difficult to recycle plastics.
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transforming them into the raw materials that can be used to make many new products we rely on every day through and vance. recycling, we can provide customers with certified circular plastics. i am not convinced, not just, i'm not convinced, but the researches who do not believe it is possible to have a so economy with plastics. so when you see that from exxon, have they found a way to get to the prospect? so is that side telling me somebody else? this l greenwashing? um oh, can you hear me? yes, i can. this is, this is green washing and it's in its purest form. the term advance recycling is neither advanced or recycling. it's it and it's of course being touted by oil giants like exxon which should already raise some flags. this particular facility is saying it's capable of breaking down $36000.00 metric tons of hard to recycle
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plastic each year. but there are studies that have actually been conducted by chemical engineers that indicate these plans do little actual recycling and that greenhouse gas emissions, hazardous pollutants like benzine. and it's all providing cover to keep producing millions of tons of new plastic products. so here, let me just bringing up on drugs because when i mentioned adults recycling, understood this, it's been go ahead, which i'm thinking was like, i don't think so under ice. go ahead, articulate your thoughts. it's likely think your uh, the, the un chemicals convention on boxes. rather than unless the comb at discussed for 4 years, the technical guy done something for a month on some management of plastic waste and concludes 2 weeks ago, one week before at unit release that the report also that's kind of promot can become recycling. that's actually key cut recycling. cons. not because either unemployment or some and management practice and it's not policy both to go see
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there. that's this is the way to go for countries. so if the whole number of countries decide that that's why we're going to put that in for and this goes out in a plastic sweetie after 4 years of negotiations. okay. i guess i haven't run, it's one more important question. and that comes from going piece in the usa, and i'm going to post the question of ground will post the question. and you'll all say is less than 30 seconds. let's have a listen. the global plastics treaty represents one of the most important and consequential opportunities for the world to move away from fossil fuels that we've had in decades. the key element is will world leaders have the courage to step up to the fossil fuel industry and agree global limits on plastic production and massive reductions to production over time? to one guy?
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i think that's the most. that's something we've got something with even here in mountain where we have seen plastic regulations that now challenge court and our government. they hasn't seen any move on even getting those because the companies have so yeah, yeah, there's a come. i think it's all right. chelsea. i, i, i'm sure i'm sure he's all schools with all of the guess to. okay, so if we go ahead. yeah, great message from graham, i would just add polluters should be kept out of the treaty process. we made a treaty that limits this, this type of influence, aggressive right there in paris, waiting for negotiations to start address. yeah, that's actually we need to make sure that the, the we give room for 4 devices, a needs a not only do microphone but also depends 2 of our, our future. thank you for your voice is on the us shopping to long day as everybody has joined in on youtube. appreciate you. i'll see you next time. take care everybody. the,
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