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tank it but was late to converse it into floating storage for oil. it's been sitting you've given the pose of had died us since 1988. the country civil war forced maintenance to be suspended in 2015 bucks. pro grace has come quickly, cut out a set of love. yeah. i got the during the past year we held several meetings and discussions with united nations was progress and delays of the times. the thanks to a law. we've reached this today, which is the combination of work in the past period. the arrival of the vessel to carry out the operation is the 1st practical operational step. more than $1000000.00 barrels of crude oil is still sitting on bold the tank as it decays and the rate see it's now set to be transferred to another tanker which sits sale from china in early april racing hopes that the worst oil spill in recent memory. can be avoided. alex bid al jazeera, the
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just a quick look at the main stories now in the house of representatives in the united states is about to begin to vote on an agreement to raise the nation's debt limits . both republicans and democrats leaders have been loving, representative to ensure the bill goes through. if it doesn't, then un could face a catastrophic default. as soon as monday member, what i can say to you is that the president is confident. uh or he believes he said this his words, he believes that this is going to, this is going to get out of the house. it's going to get out of the senate is going to be at his desk before june 5th. and he'll get to sign it on behalf of the american people. because this is incredibly important to make sure that we do not have a, a, a, a catastrophic situation on our hands. the united states is suspending military exercises with costs of the accusing of escalating tensions with the sub minority in the country residents in sub majority areas,
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a gathering for more demonstrations against the swearing in of ethnic albanian maze of the elections of boy accosted by the subs in december, the crown and spokesman, dmitri pasco says that russia's ad defenses could be improved of the shedding of the hands controlled strikes in russia, including the capital, must go to all refineries. and the southern crescent region came under attack. russia is blind ukraine for an increasing number of attacks on its territory. and saddam's army is suspending tools of the permanent tree r. s. f in saudi arabia. 2 sides agreed on a 5 day seized by extension on monday, but it was violated. just daylights have been fighting for control of sit on for a month. now plunging the country into a humanitarian crisis. well, there's more on what's happening and sit down and everything else out of their adult calm is the address. the stream is coming out next, looking at the possibility of a global treaty on plastics that we don't simply focus on the
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public. it's of the conflict. it's the consequence of wars. the human suffering death is a 4th time. it is one of the most serious spouts of violence in recent years. we brave bullets involved because we give voice to those demanding freedom the rule of law. and we always include the views from all sides. the high end from the okay. send to watching the stream. a $193.00 countries have agreed to end plastic pollution. that's the time membership of the united nations. now they have to pull up on a legally binding document on today's episode of the string. we also care about how to tackle past the pollution award is at stake globally. your thoughts, your comments put right here on each video set the stage one agree on measurements,
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to standardize the design of plastics. so they'll say to use and be cycle. i would really like to see countries take a human and environmental health approach to addressing the full life cycle of plastics through mandatory measures. what we need are a range of measures that cop virgin plastics production that we shape pots the ends of consumption and protect valuable and vulnerable communities such as waste. because those and small island developing states that are on the front line of plastics, pollution and also want to help remediate as well impacts on may, the 29th united nations environment program will be hosting round to all of these negotiations to talk about the global plastics tracy, who's going to be at the table, one of the big issues with joining us to talk about this in paris, we have andres the castillo, a senior attorney with the center for international environmental though in
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california in the us. show peachtree, executive director of people out of plastic and implants. i am a law way to win games or more ago upon that. and campaign a was a development n g o t f fund is really good to have you. i think 1st of all, what is going to be the most controversial aspect of rental to of these negotiations unless you know that embarrass, what are you, what are you not looking forward to having to put things in discuss thank you so much to pay for the invitation, this is really time of the conversation i'm on, i'm really glad to, to charge the party and with the, with the other part of these, the 1st of all the we can do kind of really feel here in periods that i'm beyond of the, of what is going on with the plastic 22nd round negotiations. why? because 1st you have seen the whole week. we have many, many events, you know, with the per month and they go say, tours and deals. everybody's coming together to try to set the scene on the ton of
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what will be a really difficult negotiation. first, what i don't want to see is and deals outside of the un venue of the you. i'm building one, everybody that was reduced or to be inside of the building. this is kind of the 1st thing that they want to see. and i want to see discussions on the substance on last discussion seem to proceed on mothers who's at the table to long day on the right. people at the table is not always the right people. uh as under as it'll did. there will just be there was that has been discussed at 44 people society who can enter the venue. i think it is important that everybody is represented as it was a fact. and usually it has, brings in all the different voices because awaken with different communities. and this treaty is about just is it about a choice? everybody says in my so quick uh, income level you, i should have the rights of age relations that protect all health about equal
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systems from from the plastic pollution. so or i mean, or voices should have that opportunity to be at a, in the room. but at the moment, maybe that, that, that may not be difficult. all right to, to okay, would you dislike for me? your mike finished his rubbing on your beautiful blouse just holding away from your blouse. and then we can enjoy the rest of your conversation. she'll pity this idea of developing countries and jose no matrix interview go solutions. that's really, really serious. can you tell us why they need to be that? because when we talk about plastic pollution, the rich countries send that caustics to the developing world. so who should be at the table in great numbers, surely the developing world that's absolutely cracked, and i'm honestly appalled that this is a current situation. and i don't want to speak for our colleagues in the global south since i live in the united states. but i'll give them
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a reflections based on working on this issue out the global level. um, as we we know we've, we've research this type in time again, plastic pollutes at every stage of its life cycle from extraction to production and disposal and especially on that disposal. and we know how burden communities in the global south are compared to welfare nations, as you stated. and this is because of the key, a few key reasons which i want to numerate. first, the companies headquartered in the global north are pumping out products of largely low value, single use plastic to countries in the global style to a very different waste management infrastructure, then welfare nations, they simply weren't designed to absorb this amount of waste. and to that point, no country is as we see those playing out in welfare nations. we're outsourcing our plastics problem in the form of waste colonization, which means shipping and dumping ways to last resource countries to deal with. so imagine these nations that are already overburdened with so much plastic and now
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they're getting dumped by other countries, which is really a moral and ethical question at the end of the day. so i'm absolutely disappointed by this decision and, you know, it's also this, this is story about the in equities that continue except to exist when we talk about plastic and climate impacts. i'm, i'm wondering, address, can this be fits quite quickly? the 2nd round of negotiations hasn't even started yet. is it too late to bring more people who are impacted by plastic pollution into the 2nd negotiations, or are we talking about? will they going to be included the next time? yeah, it's not too late actually, because you will have already more than $2700.00 people in the paris that are reduced there, but only a few of them will be able to enter even the venue. even the corey, there's no,
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i'm not talking even the, the room itself because the pen or a room have some capacity, of course, like for around $1300.00 people. right. but we are going to see some discussions of you are going to sleep during the whole week in smaller rooms that can't bear more than $300.00 people around. so whatever the i've seen day years like on the on of complexity how to make sure that we guarantee the voices of the boss affected by plastic pollution from the at upstream part, meaning extraction of those who feels the production of of bunk beds. okay. because of, of top 6 plastics on the waste disposal on the entering to the environment. so how about the guarantee that there are different recipes for the 1st is we want to enter into the room, or we need also to be able to see where the negotiation are happening and on things are being we have the technology right now for that right this is what we're using right now. yeah. so this is an example of something that we can do now, but these,
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they're called the call of a failed or foretold of cuz they knew that was preventing. that was something that they knew that over and over there is an exponential growth, not only in plastic production, but on people interested in negotiations. so you know that if you're going to have 1500 for the, for the browns, are going to kind of how this is the same as are under. so this is a just explain. yeah, i want to move back to to one day because how you, how you a toll free within negotiations, it's problematic if you're not including all of the voices particular ones, most impacted. but the reason this is important is because plastic pollution impacts out how can you give our audience some examples? so they, then it's like, it's just an organ about the civil society need to be that and developing world needs to be that is because plastic pollution kills us. it exactly. i'll tell you
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from me about, i'll tell you about me. i leave in bland tie in the city where i should have, i mean this a to should be collecting my waste. i should have the option to separate my waste and i know that my plastic is, is well disposed of. but i don't, i have to pay private company to come and collect my waste and it is not separated with across the valley from where i'm leaving is a community that doesn't you have the option of a private collection coming to. and so what do they do? that option is do you that been the plastic, which is a health hazard or they dump it in the drain o at nearby river, that is close by which piles up increases the risk of flooding us as blood tire. we just had the bi conflated entry. so what's the flooding does this was at a time when we had court. i foresaw and this plastics can hope. i sort of
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a high risk of hosting this bacteria that cause cause. and you can imagine in that sort of as the test and in malawi at the moment, 80 percent of the plastic for just a single used plastic. and we don't have a process for money to go waste or even those people that would want to don't have an option to safely disperse and that they, they don't have they, they, they dump them the brendan because this is what is accessible to them at the moment this shouldn't be i, i like that. and this is why i'm saying it is important that everybody voices is hug. and that those, that tree to you that the, that you investigate this past tree t addresses. these issues makes it possible that everybody has kind of, can, if these up, for example, we're talking about here, there's an issue of production that needs to be reduced. but also for that testing, the task compound is appropriate measures and everybody has access to those
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messages to property dispos and a discharge. and also with that these recycling and when we talk about recycling, we obviously bring into people like i'm saying my, it's somebody who's coming there with because coming to my house and offering this service, we can't ignore those people. and the by the take the pasting that will be sending to those that want to recycle. so they're providing a service and all these voices need to be paid at the treaty need to address all these issues that are in the way that they are when we talk about plastic function . so if we what's on your mind or i completely agree with what to one day saying it's it's heartbreaking that there's so much at stake here. and i thought it would be a good opportunity to actually talk about the production piece. so both andreas and one day have polluted to the production piece quite a bit and it is essential. 99 percent of plastic does come from an oil and gas
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based resource. so we can't ignore the start relationship between plastic and fossil fuels. we talk about communities that are more, most impacted on the production piece. you know, we have a place called cancer alley in the united states and the gulf south. it's an 85 mile stretch of land between baton rouge and new orleans, louisiana. and it's a predominantly black part of the country and it's literally called cancer alley. it is killing people, so i made to your point. so we have to make sure we're constantly holding industry giants accountable, both on the patch of chemical size. we're talking the x times the dallas and the do punts and make sure they're plans of a plastic production, doubly by 2050 doesn't actually go through. and the global plastics treaty is a great way to make sure plastic production is actually prioritized in human health, across this life cycle. to own that you mentioned waste pick ups which are often
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overlooked when we, when we talk about recycling and, and using waste in a very positive way, i just want to show our audience how much waste because are involved in plastic pollution, 60 percent of plastic, recycled is collected by informal waste because to one day when you live, what does that look like to? yes, so like i've mentioned we've got the those that are providing service. so i'll show you how we didn't have an option for me. you have, you know, individuals that com look at the aggregate and offer that service they can, i take, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll package, you pay them as more something. and they take it that way. they sort out will get see that the fastest that they can sell to recycling company, they'll take and, and sell. then we also have, or they like the company that i'm, that they're using now. so they're taking a plastic, taking them to
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a dump. that is it, you know, has pad is set up and you have that the with because also there, because even in my lie, we do have the initiative small, medium into sizes that boxing up the enterprises to recycle waste. but because we don't separate at weight at so everything is put together, then it is at this dump sites where these people are working and switching out and taking out of the plastic that this one medium enterprises one so that they also put the effort in, in recycling that plastic waste, i guess the most is what i like. i advise you to one day what i like best about where we are at this stage is the people all talking about what is needed to be done, who needs to be in the conversation, but also the united nations environment program also released the report saying this is what we can do practically. no, it's a problem. we don't know what to do. this is what we can do. we have broken it down as a, a very straightforward graphic andres. i am volunteering you to help me just
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a thought as we go through this a unit, a say by 2040. it is possible to reduce plastic pollution point 18 percent display using existing technology and based on some policy changes. so let's look at some of those policy changes, reduction to just eliminate the problem not to and i'm necessary plastics in a sentence. congress. is that possible? and i'm done to the, to this is possible, but we need to understand that plastics are plastic materials on plastic, on our plastics products too. so the reduction part, it needs to be one of the main parts of the equation there. all right? now the i get from you that is really using promote the reuse of full containers and take back schemes. when i was a kid, i ready to go used to be asked to buy books was a pop or soda and then you would get them back and you would get 5 p back. and milk
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came in bottles. and then you put the bottles on your doorstep and then they put milk in those bottles again. and then there was no plastic, there was no copper containers. that's how you did it. so the idea of recycling, andras time we talked about yeah, the recycling is if you noise coming over and over and over, i mean depends the technique that you use. and i will be kind of creating call with the unit report having been having, being invited by them a days before to read to review the october report. when you look at the headlines, of course, they'll give you help us. we can reduce pollution by 80 percent, but then when you look with a magnifying glass, you'll see that's what they mean by plastic. pollution is not taught to the reduction of why the, the scale of plastic pollution, but only the mismanagement of plastic waste entering. so far as going to say
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something killing me is i have to 2nd is go ahead. good. i go early that andre like, this is not the full story, right? because the headlines love to do that. let me be clear, you know, just asking governments to invest 54000000000 to clean up the plastic oil and chemical sectors. instead of turning off the tap on plastic and oil production, this is a massive disconnect rate. it also bags the question around corporate responsibility and verify angel responsibility. in simple terms, plastic is a combination of carbon and chemicals, and we know it's toxic to human health. so i was really hoping it would be a lot more hard hitting on the corporate accountability piece and also framing human health idols as you know, i went to you. so that's the last, the last piece of i'm, i'm doing them in big headlines, but it helps us just understand the extent of this. you. net report, reprice plastic wrap us with all tentative materials. so just if it's unnecessary, let's just think of a different ways of packaging our products. so pay. yeah,
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i mean it's, it's kind of what andres website saying about scaling up economies of refill and reuse. the problem is we have become so hyper focused on the convenience solution that it's getting cities to really think about 0 waste infrastructure rather than just the individual and consumer level. so of course, we want to focus on higher value material that have to recycle ability, like lumina, got in gloss, but that go to, you just share of like a chip bag. that's when it becomes a little bit more difficult to activate that sort of systems change approach. so one guy do you have some ideas of how we can actually get rid of caustic pollution from your part of the world where you're saying actually this is what we're doing and this is what is possible now. so i think, well, what's it we also talked, i'm think i ship it, touched on it a little bit there. is that because of what people used to?
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i also, he and when i read before, we had the glass bottles that we changed even for our course of the way of searching something. but now the classics came in and they sort of more convenient to, to use and, and keep an eye out. taking the those and take, taking those as the options. so for me, i feel off for my side of the country, we need to look at the old tennessee but other but we also there's a lot to do with people and they have perceptions and also wanting them to, to understand and to, to appreciate that is to create linkages because i think important linkages when people understand. so for example, i was talking about the links, we say flooding. you know, city launched by asking, you know, how are we, how are we having so much like this wasn't being connected. so when people sort of connect the view impacts of what destructive do,
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maybe we can also have that change because that is also important. so people choose not to use and actually wants to, to have both those or say it isn't the month. those alternatives. so that, that they made the middle of the level or that the for more said in the way the government was a feeling. they don't just look for the most convenient being. that is, yeah, think that. so we sort of move us for that. what we're gonna do some interesting suggestions from our audience who are watching right now on youtube. for instance, we need facts out waste management that involves plastic eating ones to help compost prospect. so that was one idea from youtube. but i also want to give you an idea that came from what's like, what a big oil this is from exxon. and i really entry to see what you think about this. let's have a look at exxon mobiles facilities in a town near houston, texas. we are turning plastic lease to new materials or extend technologies for
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advanced recycling. we're breaking down even the difficult to recycle plastics. transforming them into the raw materials that can be used to make many new products we rely on every day through and vance. recycling, we can provide customers with certified circular plastics. i am not convinced, not just, i'm not convinced, but the researches who do not believe it is possible to have a set economy with plastics. so when you see that from exxon, have they found a way to get to the prospect? so is that side telling me somebody else this the brainwashing um oh, can you hear me? yes, i can. this is, this is green washing and it's in its purest form. the term advance recycling is neither advanced or recycling. it's it and it's of course being touted by oil
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giants like exxon which should already raise some flags. this particular facility is saying it's capable of breaking down $36000.00 metric tons of hard to recycle plastic each year. but there are studies that have actually been conducted by chemical engineers that indicate these plans do little actual recycling and that greenhouse gas emissions, hazardous pollutants like benzine. and it's all providing cover to keep producing millions of tons of new plastic products. so here, let me just bringing up on the us because when i mentioned adults recycling, understood this, it's been go ahead, which i'm thinking was like, i don't think so address, go ahead, articulate your thoughts. it's likely think your uh, the, the un chemicals convention on boxes rather than i'm asked to come at discussed for 4 years. the technical guy done something for a month on some management of plastic waste and concludes 2 weeks ago, one week before at unit release that the report also that's kind of promot can
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become recycling. that's actually key cut recycling cons. not because either unemployment or some and management practice is not possible to go see there. that's this is the way to go for countries. so if the whole number of countries decide that that's why we're going to put that in for. and this goes out in a plastic sweetie, after 4 years of negotiations. okay. i guess i haven't run, it's one more important question. and that comes from going piece in the usa and i'm going to pose the question of ground will pose the question. and you don't say is less than 30 seconds. let's have a listen. the global plastics treaty represents one of the most important and consequential opportunities for the world to move away from fossil fuels that we've had in decades. the key element is will world leaders have the courage to step up to the fossil fuel industry and agree global limits on plastic production and
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massive reductions to production over time? me to one guy. i think that's the most that that's something well definitely with even here in mountain where we have been plastic regulations that are now challenged court and government, they hasn't seen any move on even getting those because the companies have so yeah, yeah. come so there's a come i think it's all right, chelsea, i, i, i'm sure i'm sure he's all schools with all of the guess to. okay, so please go ahead. yeah, great message from graham. i would just add polluters should be kept out of the treaty process. we made a treaty that limits this, this type of influence, a number of seats right there in paris waiting for negotiations to start address. yeah, that's actually we need to make sure that the, the we give room for the 4 devices, a need, a not only do microphone but also depends 2 of our, our future. thank you for your voice is on the us shopping to long day as,
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as what he joined in on youtube. appreciate you. i'll see you next time. take care everybody. the facing leanne of teams. does the un fits of purpose, like many critics sites just pump solution doesn't get anywhere near enough done to the amount of money that is put into its hard hitting interviews. do you think close to the lines on washing? it's enough for money to go on its own and built it's on the thoughts providing on for centuries, people have been taken care of are. so i have every confidence that future generations will do it as well via the story on told to how does era the
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the effect allies from out is there is mobile app available in your favor taps to just set for it and tapped on a new app from audi 0 nice at using. is it the hello? i'm sorry. i'm to live in london with a quick look at the main stories. now the house of representatives in the united states is beginning to mos on an agreement to raise the nation's debt limit. both republican and democratic leaders have been lobbying representatives to ensure the bill goes through. if it doesn't, it could be catastrophic consequences, such as a default as soon as next monday. what i can say to you is that the president is confident. uh, or he believes he.

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