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hello and welcome to the program. i remember on con, from the whole to new delhi and from baghdad to mexico says he, there are few places on of where pollution is not a problem. it affects the quality of life a billions of people this week. smoke from unprecedented wall flies and canada isn't goals and at least skies of cities in the united states making me at 2 talks like to brief. climate scientists say such places are increasing in frequency around the planet is because of the woman. and is often the porous people and nations for the most vulnerable view and has declared access to clean and healthy environment that universal human rights. so it will not be taken up by governments to mitigate the impact of all changing climates. we'll get as well, i guess in a moment. but 1st this report, latoria gave me this is what has it is that pollution looks like. and the 8000000 residents of new york has been breathing it in this week. a result of hundreds of

wall fires in canada. it's disrupted the lives of millions of people in the northeastern united states. but at pollution has long been a problem around the world. the world health organization says it kills and estimated 7000000 people the most live in latin america, africa, and asia. chinese capital santiago is constantly struggling with severe pollution scientists, the states, the most polluted capital on the continent. and the only one c as in the in summer we have the always are in pollution problem ended when so we have to find a particular method pollution. unfortunately, this makes pollution levels is unacceptable in other countries. lots which define life and santiago at pollution effects people's long's healthy longs have wide open pathways. the poor quality causes inflammation and narrows them, making, breathing more difficult. long time exposure to add pollution is linked to referred to diseases such as asthma as well as heart disease and cancer. last year,

the un general assembly declared access to a clean and healthy environment, a universe. so human rights. both it's no binding, some governments or adopting measures to reduce air pollution. look forward to using the indian capital new dahlia banning coal power plants, limiting the number of vehicles on the road. i'm stopping construction during times of peak pollution, but other countries, including chad, do not have the results, is environmental is say, the air pollution crisis is preventable, and governments need to take the issue seriously. we need to get off the fossil fuels as quickly as possible, but we also need to adapt to those changes that we, we tend to avoid. and that's we need better disaster response management. we need better systems to deal with these types of crises. beyond the human cost of the world bang says pollution accounts for more than $8.00 trillion dollars in losses each year or 6 percent of the global economy. so in to say technologically innovation is helping to tackle that pollution, but what's needed more is the political and social will to address the crisis

victoria case and be for inside story that's bringing out guess in madrid, adulthood marie and era, the director of public health environment and social determinants of health and the world health organization in brussels and about a clean and lawyer at the client of an environment and more charity and in delhi, a bit of a lot, a use environment, place and advisor to the board of commonwealth human college. the counselor will welcome to your like to begin in madrid with the adults at murray and era. the u. n . has declared access to a clean and healthy environment as a universal human rights, but that's known binding. so countries don't have to pay attention to it. is this part of the problem that simply isn't any little with the teeth that gets into this? i think it's very sad to start to. we need the fund that we need the resolution to

claim that we all have. i should have access to a clean and shelf environment. i think it should be something by default. but on for the police, not the case and the air we resource sample is responsible every year for more than $7000000.00, pretty much with that. so yes, if we need the legislation, we need to use the low to go, i need to wait to move farther on, back to the heads of our people and they rise to be clean and on top of healthy environment, i think we should do it and this would be very helpful as well, but that does have, there is a mechanism for whole of this, that is the un security council i'm, this is a now a security issue for many countries around the world. so all of the mechanisms of that, what are the problems? what's the pushback from countries to try and pause the resolution? i think we are still far from brooklyn. i think that we are facing a big crisis which is called climate change. and we are facing a crisis,

june to the for the we are the strong, you know, we're environment in total, the fundamentally polluting everything. we thought the water we drink there, we brig, sunday that the food we eat. so unless we decided on a very strong way, we thought a very political position in the garage as well to was stopped pollution the making of a health care environment that shows your development from station to clean sorts of stuff better to for instance, i stopping the combustion of fossil fuels where we were really cute and keep it appealing, our 7 and being responsible for the elite, the destruction that we are facing every day. i mean, we have a lot to today if we take the right positions on, on the basis and the ration of all for the transition to remove the kind of source of supply energy better. or if i'm planning based on the sign. if i were to state to super fixed our safety sense and of course lay separate record to the practices

and looking at a very strong agreement at the cost with the private cheese. we some very strong political decision and of course investments and accelerating the level of foundation that we have now. and of course, they pay speed to take decisions, all of that to protect the people in addition to the heads of course, of the planet, or they sustainable development. but more than anything which help you start with the same big price of hobby for ocean and climate change of state national that the magic way in brussels, i'm about you've just had what very narrow it has said that a lot of things need to get done none of those things are happening. why is that? is your experience as a lawyer? you must come a come up against is every day. yes, thank you. and so, as i said, we talked about the, your engine residencies resolution, and the fact that there is no code 5 little, i think that really hits it on the head here and trying to see what all q that

a breathing cleanup is already a human rights not so right, that exists and it's right, the states have an obligation to comply with. but until this is codified within the legal framework, i think it's easier to try to evade that obligation. that's why we try and bring the instigation against a decision made. so if it gets public authorities to draw it to their attention, this is an obligation which they already have and which they should already be in that same policies to comply with a beautiful let me bring you in here. actually this is quite possible for you because you suffer from about bronchitis, which led you to become an environmental activist. and you think, do you think that the youth, which is what you're focusing on the that's literally the future other. what i thought about when you use them, but like that's the future, right? absolutely. i think um, you know, as you said, somebody as guards um. i was re indifferent to climate change but nice dr. down. but when i actually learned that the time entry and so the evolution is thompson's

in my hand, that's when i woke up and realize that this is something i want to work on. you know, my doctor telling me that as having the seasonal allergies because it's too long exposure to have to use and, and that continues to need. and i think, you know, i, i have a bit of a best mistake out, look on the human race and that, i think everyone wants to know what's in it for me. and i think as an environmental is, that's what i really try to address in all the audiences that i'm talking to. i think i try and, you know, let that his legs and, and i, you know, try and they loved the message to the audience that i'm talking to and make them understand why you shouldn't use an issue that affects all of us. and why we need to start working on it as, as a collective um, you know, the other than having this blame game between institutions where the state governments and to the governments, the un or any of the bodies. i'm, i'm a, he, a bill makes a very good point there. like we, there is a disconnect,

isn't that between say for example, what the w h i site which is better, a certain level of ad that's not peel and then say for example, the union, your site, actually the air in europe is perfectly safe. there's no standards say right, and that is a big problem i think. yeah, and i can see you agree that that is a big problem and possible for me that we have in europe. is it, there is a european naval frame up, but it's outdated is, and that's currently in the press to bang, revise. and the most important thing is that does listen to and comply with the late decides, but to decides to. and so w, germany, state recommendations was 2 years ago now, and they tell us what the maximum acceptable levels about pollution off. and so the states have an obligation to listen to that if they are really going to comply with their obligations to protect the life of the house and the private life of the citizens. and it has to be following the signs in making laws, which probably affects people because the bridge properly protect people. because

at the end of the day, of course, that is the purpose of little adult summary and error. i mean, the w h o a doesn't have enough teeth, we've established that to actually false institutions, either your opinion to act, but there are things that you can do. what are those? well. busy those things that you can do as the source of the we are putting this in this he gave you the table. i think not playstation, no government, no policy maker, no. may your a wrong there was anyone we'd be able to say i didn't know that they, they gave it is very clear we are you showing reports very often using before your number of. ready certain medium, pretty much would that caused by by that. but what if you're there we breed the front of more than 99 percent of the people. i mean almost a 100 percent of the people at home. the war is bleeding in, but it's not respecting the sun doesn't come into play. the ritual, of course, is not the same to lead the new daily. this time, this would be

a completely different from the charles adam suite. for instance, where the difference we sort of just spend this is a. ready slower, but to see the font that we, we are putting the it'd be best with these goals. we took over minus, we talked about the resolution stuff the some being we thought we needed to so, so we told to mean is this an energy because these are started much about an energy . should we go to all the cold problem in the government use, make decisions. we describe what the expectation interventions to reduce the person blank if have you guys, and we'll start getting those those into patients. what works. and we have us when she's finished and may just have to estimate if you go for the system that's like a new or be a union for you. so look at the number of, of dates that you put, i'm following. you are a little bit more on these. so, question though, that's a very something difficult to understand when you're saying that i said the use

primitive fixed is still there is not that reaction use. this is very, very difficult to understand. what's happened there. why not let me bring it available? i mean, uh, what are the key things, hey, is getting governments to try and do something outside of institutions outside of i see on, for example of the european union or any kind of institution. what's the indian, what was your, the reaction to you when you speak to politicians, when you speak to people, is there any interesting trying to change things or you up against brick will. and so it just gets a bit of bulls, right? because of that all more and more people who are becoming receptive to you know, the idea of working on a big issue. but unfortunately, i feel like we've got some attached, we need to like, let's be the example of the buyers that go bad, which has been this of the boss 567 years in, in india, and all the time put in the charter d as well as the supreme court,

whether it's the national gene type, you know, everyone has banded, but this band follow the yellow. so right, so, so the government sees, we've done, i'll be leaving to use the band and society is not following it. and on the other hand, we have social groups, so as saying, oh, you know, after using is too large a nation for any, any of us to deal with. it says governments and it's got this, we have to tackle this. so to come out of this vicious cycle to come out of this gas, when you do, i think that's what i use and social blues are in bottles. it is. then there's no doubt that you know, uh, i think a large part of the board lies on, on institutions and governments. but it's also on society and youth groups and social groups to get the ball rolling. we have to be the 1st step because they need the extra apology soon. they want the more bold state and they get more, they have to know that society actually cares about nature and they're willing to act on it. so i think there's a very strong

a need for different groups to got together and that's when we, we face that challenge, right. the question. 5 i think there's, there's a lot of main sit on it, but you shouldn't. a lot of people who i talk to whether they saw the students, the, whether they're from the diamond rooms, some people think able to use and that's just the seasonal issue. some people think it's the stick to the nothing. yeah. so really busting to his mates and bringing about proper education and awareness would be the 1st step towards beckoning that issue. i want to bring him about and hit even 10 years ago. the fact that your job probably didn't exist in the way it is right now. you're a clean and lawyer even 10 years ago that must have been quite surprising to people about that you've shifted into with the people that you speak to in the european union. right now, are you being less than 2 on the line? quite optimistic. i hope the way they use it. and it certainly encouraging that the european union is current in the process of actors. and the day before the market

represents a recognition of the fact that we now know more than we did 15 years ago, the last time that the european policy know was revised and came into force. so there is certainly an increasing recognition of how damaging a pollution can be and what level of pollution is the maximum acceptable level. so i, i think science the west coast and for example, janera there is from what i can see in increasing awareness. and of course, you could always be doing data and i think this falls within, again, this point about providing better information to the general public about the health impacts. so there, i appreciate it again, the look at help with this. if there was this codified a codified human rights for the unhealthy and test environments, then governments would things to stop and take more ambitious steps to clean up the a and also to inform the citizens. so they kind of 2 things, go hand in hand, this stays taking more robust action to clean up the

a and at citizens becoming more aware of the impact about pollution on that health and demanding more from the governments. and we're ready somewhere along that path . we could always be doing that to well, i mean, let's talk about this. always be the best. so because do you have, i mean, as an environmental lawyer? um, do you have an impact on the policy or policy makers listening to your recommendations? are they observing that into any discussions about the law. ready or tokens just quickly through the nuts and bolts of all of this. he added, yes, i think he's definitely seeing an impact about what the situation has been particularly effective. so to give you an example, a few years ago, we atlanta for a case against the brussels government. and for that failure to properly put in place and monitoring network, monitoring the policy and a city which of course is the 1st building dr. understanding of policy via that we bridge we one that case and as a result the process government had to adjust the way it was monitoring our

pollution to bring it to in line with the little and since then has very publicly and open the space is that it was all education which prompted them to comply with the little more effectively to, to comply with their obligations better. so other suggestions that definitely we're definitely seeing and take effect to their of that's the course i want to ask you about. but has had some success in getting a influence in those that are being policies effectively a little bit. as we're planning a plan of does need low b s, right? we, that's what we need. we need somebody to be able to sell this idea to the united nations . do we need more lawyers involved? is this a legal issue? do you think that i think is the best thing you do the role of lawyers and that there you think ations the stream is bought in florida? i would like to mention as well the case in u. k that uh for the 1st time ever we have on the dates of dc gate the patient. busy passed away 10 years ago for the 1st time no heard back,

so she gave the sweeten air pollution. i think coastal that can know totally asthma . so i think this was a, it's generally a very nice league of bob to as well as the west long. but now we need a new scale of one of those tabs. so we scale up what we need is uh, the commercial determinants. i mean, when our commercial interest, that's very key. we need to, as a society understand. but if we don't have somebody to start, you should to be creating so. busy green sources, clean sources of energy. we are all stuff pretty much a 3 steps from, from our point of view. first, the 2nd we need more awareness as, as is increasing, no doubt, but the speed that we need safety says to pull out the suppression. that part of the distance of the form that they need to and then the very clear connection between the supposed to click partnership and long concert. and zach cronum speed, i told him sections or in the stroke. and that caused me to the developments and

all of those behavior at least uses the i'm just going to bring in, i'm just going to bring in a bead bell. i mean, we've been talking about the little as possibly one way of actually getting governments to change, but that might work into your opinion and this will come to them. but there are many, many other issues that require legal minds is like very expensive app. have you ever thoughts of the i need to push the indian legal system maybe that get best of the supreme court? that's the kind of route i need to go download using for india for this. how confident maybe that's not the right approach. you know, i think the leader route has been explored. uh and you know, if the us that is already school to do more and can do better. but i feel a rand we're lacking in, in uh, not just saying that i think an issue that i've seen uh, you know, talking on my account about since that was the says, well, is more of an issue of implementation as well as social and politic good waiting,

right, so for example, as i said, there's a biotech of band or we've had the national leg quality commission which has been set up. but it's not actually an effective date. um, this community has been gone since you did and reconstituted to meg speed. governments and central governments worked together over the years. but we, we see that by and large in, in sam who states in particular, the number of the h u, a numbers aren't going down. right? so i think that all a lot of noise, like i only mentioned the 5 pack up then the big inforcement is the issue. and that's where i think the room of all the bodies that all of municipal commissions and, and just really expand state governments and also gotten saying, i mean the state government bailey has been doing a fantastic job with the bhaskar with the us because i'm just going to disturb you that because i want to bring him about in here. this is a very interesting conversation about enforcement. yes,

you can possible the law as you want, but you need countries to sign up. you need countries to enforce them. how's that going to happen? and by giving the civil society and citizens a right to access to justice. and i think that's really important. again, we come back to this point about educating the mr. bhalla as mentioned about citizens being aware of the impact and things like that. pollution having on the health and death for empowering them with the knowledge to hold the governments that decision makers to account that on the other handles to empower and then with the legal tools that they can go to court and hold that governance to accounts. and again, not semester of codification, that's a matter of making sure that you do have access to justice provisions within these rules and network corresponding both to those will benefit both individual citizens being able to go to court and civil society. so and yours again, cuz i can holding documents to accounts and making sure that they are complying. so that's why we need these. this is dual tools, both high level emission in terms of the actual limits on pollution and also the

strong implementation important network. which means that civil society and citizens are able to hold decision makers to account, we've told cypher adulthood they're about little making a move towards the enforcement of those laws. but if you get it poss, anything in the united nations is a key player. and all of this you have to offer incentives. countries have got to be able to think this is in our interest and not see any way they'll act. what incentives can the united nations offer the w h o for other than putting the information like you said on the table as well as the day seventy's we are offering? are the best possible ever? i mean, the number of flights you can say, the number of diseases you can prevent. and even if we go to numbers to the best of the economy, the, if they say all the amount of resources economic, social 2 can say, because our hosted that's already paying, i would have systems that are already paying an incredible price to tweet all of

those growing disease and subbing $70.00 is definitely the preparation of the season reduction on those. so maybe as updates better services with us in the system. the costa and of course are making sure that uh were corporation. we understand that i think when you have mothers like at one moment and you take has being able to change the low or most, most of the people, he's aware that the air pollution is affecting the show. more they will vote, use their vote to, to do, besides boys they may or that wouldn't be the ones responding and putting, endorsing on those laws. coy, state government that we'd be responding to better to our that month for a quality. so i think it will, the united nations from the side in particular ations and then put the even sanctions we don't have the capacity but designated by producing every here

a tracking of voice doing what in so many lives you are not saying that you put the boys to that, so i think that would be the most powerful kind of reporting make time he's been monitoring on how many life started do not saving as a sorry don't. are we all running out of time now? have a question on that one to all school 3 of you will be getting rid of biddable of us killed. 28 is coming up. that's one big opportunity for countries to come together very quickly. what do you want to say from comp 28 from the climate change summit? absolutely, i think one is a topic to discuss and well being that, you know, we've, we've seen that this international intervention of, on the grounds, this of humanity in reasons in, in, you know, across the board. but i feel a climate change. and so you should meet the big issues with in the international community can found together to actually blood pressure. so on other countries, the head, the citizen say that would be the 1st thing. second, i would say,

and then you know, we're seeing more of the stuff you that cuz we all are running out of town. i do want to get to our, the guess as well. i do apologize. don't to sorry about your loyal legally won't laws, would you hope to see at least being told about cope? 28 and i would say uh hi. i'm mission when it comes to assessing limits on the application that we can breed as well as a strong implementation in force in network. which means that those, those are respected on the citizens and civil society, can hold that governments to account respect that human rights decrease. keena don't center. what do you hope for from cold? 28, just very quickly. we will have a health day for the 1st time. maybe i will love to see all the countries and those are the only just air quality guidelines that we agree. and obviously drastic, have with auctioneers initially started with the solar eclipse for public health. i want to thank o guess i maria, an era adults, man era m a bud and

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