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hello and welcome to the program. i'm getting you. navigate on india is northeast region is landlocked and states. they're rely heavily on new delhi for their budgets. but it's also a strategically significant border region and home to different ethnic, religious and linguistic groups. among these states as money poor, it's suffered ethnic tension and conflicts involving on separate trust movements for decades. rival groups fight overland resources and identity, and now it's experiencing its worst violence since the 19 ninety's will go to or i guess to know moments. but 1st, when we consume sharif, explains why long running tension has escalated into violence. this is ne, india made up of 8 states, several separate his movements had been active in this region, the boldest china bundle, dish and my on my phone, the hills and valleys. people living and money for have long been divided along

ethnic lines. the valley is dominated by the majority, multi community that's mostly handled. the hills from 90 percent of the states area on a home to the minority cookies and the now gods. money full lives. next to me on the 2021. cool that the paper from the chin community were linked to the cookies sling to find safety. let's say steve minister brand saying high school, there were few, g is a serious threat. it's democracy and lead to drive to identify undocumented migrants, the state government has a two's the migrants of coding, protected for this line to cultivate trucks drive to evict them. the seo from kooky areas has and the people that violence and the state is the worst in decades, it began in may after the money for high school recommended the my take community being drunk with special tried the state as a recognition. the cookies already have now this central some benefits to rectify an equality and discrimination. but the cookies feel this will allow others to

access the protected resources. the my take to have them complained about land owned by hill tribes being protected, preventing others from buying any more than 100 people had been killed in the violence and tens of thousands of paper force from the homes selves and some security forces have been deployed to the state, the internet has been shut down and it costs you in post. so human rights was just calling on the indian government to immediately and impartially investigate killings by ethnic groups and security forces in money poor. it says, quote, accounts of partisan involvement by security forces in the killings has increased distrust of the all forty's and quotes. it's also urging new daily to work with community leaders to restore security. human rights watch also says the money poor government's internet blackout has severely hindered information gathering and reporting by the media and civil society groups. the government says the shutdowns

necessary to stop what it called the spread of this information on false rumors. let's not bringing our gas. joining us from new delhi is bad. that's the only number who is a professor, a jello harlow. the university. he's also chairperson of the special center for the study of ne india in go. a hockey is a non, to whole kick in who's an associate professor of engine institute of technology go a how to his work focuses on estna, identity, politics and ethic, nationalism, and ne, india. and from co cutoff, we have severe a bomb. it was a veteran journalist who has recently been in money poor state covering the conflicts. severe is also the author of to puts on ne india and surgeon crossfire and troubled parents for a warm welcome to all. thank you so much for your time. so severe with the internet shut down. accurate information obviously could be hard to come by. so i'll begin with you because you are just in money port earlier this week. tell us what you saw

and what the situation was like. what is the nightmare for journalists? because you may be able to get a lot of information on it running story like this, but it's regarding crossword your dog sending back the story to where you want to does out to be a nightmare. that's number one. but apart from that, what has to be lower prices is the shut dog goods, are you more than really or just a new wires are flying, take on the sauce, and the drivers insulted combustible, sensitive situation, stood indentured as to be born. so on resolution, it adds to the intensity of one's like a mission, i think also as to the duration of possibly getting extended, right, but uh, as an ice on the ground. so what did you see?

you know, it was very clear the every day that the state is still in the mid so a so time to do all the law numbers. if you're working the indian partner with the 2 forces are working. but there is obviously a major problem or mission between the 2 forces and the state police were sure did not go very well when someone is going. but getting everybody to pick brochures and there's, you know, took away from, from the police all money and gave it to people of their own communities. which i know at the center, right? i'm going to do for our task, which is where problems which went all the money. but that's a very serious situation. when the police gets got to revise the russians, i'm getting divided by that. any preference uh where funds are meant for release authorized user for this person that will allow me to ride to yours. i'm malls.

that's a very dangerous thing. i need becomes extremely difficult to control the case in my book. okay, do you see the volume dining area and you guys to, you know, it's and you know, the terms are taking place now and then get him there. why? because a lot of people should not, i might have more problems and then all the service course. okay. just found by for a moment. let me bring a number to how to tell us. let's, let's take a step back and help us understand what's behind this current belt of violence. and, and how would you describe the current divisions? are they, are they primarily ethic? well, the situation is on risk, which is unfolding in the money for one of the northeast in the state of india, which border the india and younger as being the degree by add new classes between the dominion valley being made to the people on the cookies or communities who belongs to the side of the tribe of seems made taught so will when wing back to you

know, how it begins in, in an app really in, in mid tart, a protest which was organized by the. ready tribal, the students union, many board against the s the status of the month for the me days i happened to so by then spits, begin to end the to it's on with district border land, some mist queens born the annual book you are sending a polls, which ease uh, which has very symbolic significance to the community. not more than 40 days now, or at least a 100 people have been killed so far. hundreds more is yours and tens of thousands have been internally displease since taught me evening. but i also want to add that the, the use of, you know, more, her bombs, snipers, drones, desperate behavioral this on the, you know, cynical key believes is a source of full blown all wire, which again,

still keeps those communities and what they have experience in a sense can be a keen to a meaning, you quin uh or, or a large on which is being forwarded to being to more listen declared. let's bring it in the back. got a to give us your point of view of the situation and it sounds like the high courts directive to the money for a government seems to be the immediate trigger for uh, for the latest around a violence between the might stays in the cookies. but to what extent do you think or can you tell us about the anger that's been simmering for a long time now? or yeah, it's a very complex to uh, the fear the issue it nation was against giving low but new bones is. can you drive status to this majority to main days and the broadcast by the uh, the driving community? does it all happened in all the districts, but somehow dividing,

screw up. it's unfortunate. speak in the joe, don't you need to do this? but uh, this is not the issue. this somehow was a good point. well, i still don't understand why such an issue would have led to highlands because this is the last to do some of that. but it is just inducing the issues with how to find the dog in the snow because the bowl and the army load the shore. and so the community must not be given or must be given. there is always an ample amount for the space to look into what while one to is now today, it is around almost $42.00 days. and the wireless steam does not seem to stop. there is always a possibility all starting a little while. is there any point of time? and this i see is more for reasons. one is more of an ideological

or bought it because of this force of function induced floorspace is the easy way to get this sides a 2nd is what is the draw? so we need to, the 1st point is the key jo, communities whose population is around 7 to a lex uh, has been asking for quite some time. uh so, but in the ministration of to be away from beautiful, the government, the money. all right. the end of the majority made these are against separation of the jury. duty of this state, the money because it was the king dunbar years before the end began barbara of india. so when they just let this part of the reason money was an

independent kingdom, we became barbara in the early 1949 the by god for the sake of time, or for the sake of time, let me just jump in there with one more question to you before i bring in my other yes, i mean, how do you respond to claims that over the past few months, the money for a government has reportedly taken actions and decisions which generates a sense of discrimination and security among the crew. can community respond to those claims? there is no discrimination. i don't understand what that discrimination is. a little above the issues of dr. status to be given to them in order to make these would always be followed by the old discussed of institutional mechanics and but i'm more concerned with the kind of violence that has been made about the board. and the issue is, is a month. so for us to bring any buttons at the end at this point, okay, let me bring them to me. let me bring a number to how uh for a moment because i'm to have the might take community of if it,

even though they constitute, as, as we were saying a moment ago, they constitute 53 percent of the population. they're only confined to about 10 percent off the land in the valley. so do you think that this proportion of distribution between the might say community and the tribes people is really the crux or one of the crux of the problem? yeah, because uh the, the month for this s t is that this uh, the tribals does not have any uh, issue or problem as such uh, in the real sense of the time. but uh, the more you know, the lives as in the, uh, a problem its the try booth on when it gets fuel is that they are, you know, wait apprehensive. that is, the best did the step this is being given to the may, the communities who are much more at vons for who are much more, politically and domain and, and they also, you know, re present. uh, you know, uh sort the seats all of the 66 of the state assembly. so they are, you know, way,

a much more, you know, uh better and then uh, you know, what do you send? so how, okay, the book is and then the travel call me this in general, are apprehensive that this, this particular, you know, wrong, single best is put this in some way. would that allow them to, you know, have or own the land or have access to the tribal lens. so therefore, the construct isn't from reasons that this article treat $71.00 c, which has protected the tribal comment. this of the land that is not allowing the non 5 boost on or access to land in the areas. so the severe, severe let's talk about the government's response with you. because some say that the prime minister, severe in the range or moody has appeared somewhat indifferent to the situation. if there's been no meeting, there's been no visit to the area. when the violence began, he was campaigning elsewhere in the country. why do you think that there has been uh, silence on the part of the of the, the prime minister?

well actually we created the prime minister. this is a matter which is not in his domain. it's something that is the movie style that you guys will get involved, even in smaller groups, off the motor status, and he wants to repair an error. and therefore, when things go wrong, people are going to choosing the problem. here's pretty simple and straight. it's a very near all the state government, which incident is wrong by the b j b. and they have not only understood the dynamics of money, but properly. they have tried to do both of their cert brother no, barely. so what was the essentially, and let me grab this is they will try to project to the what or something between bridges on this, they're doing that to sort of a donor something. what's already wrong way of dealing with this problem. the ongoing issue here is that they're not trying to

come up with the go central brand or the solutions or even attempt to start the ethnic dial by which i mean or dial no between the different government. these were jobs are lower, include each other, right? the part so you know, that's where the people, the people in money or actually have confidence in the b, j. p. state government from what you saw well, without getting into party one of these i can fairly clearly say that both government is for the upgrade reserve versions of all the state governments. and therefore, a big fee that the government far did not have any idea that this really got to be such a violent. we're secretary, where did you doctor? they could not get a group on the drawers transfer very soon. and even when the center forces gave me

lots of numbers, this problem is going to be a bargain because some politicians on either side are trying to, from the flavor for their own invested interest. so okay, it's a deal for the state government. the system is a failure of the state government, a government and, and what do you think the new delhi should be doing at this point is see, i mean it's easy to be in the state, but how impose happened? nobody seems to be bothered. the whole issue came up in into reality, 16021 state governments drive against code division will all be on both. these please finally leads to production of drugs, 0 ins, and others and internet the tree or not go to the resume that has been in operation to the states, but we've been trying to stall the cultivation, although will be on both these and somehow this is the rated uh the next is of the

mafia, politicians and several others. even dental is groups included. so this, this is when just together all alone against the state governments and st. did the have all of the items, which is all engineer black icpc created constructed loans. but the real issue behind is this drive by the state government against the division of the will be severe and the because i saw your shaking your heads are on the point that my guess from natalie was saying, just give us your comments briefly, please. what are you doing really by these pieces that are these photographs usually it up to because of the size of both stopped the contribution a you know, a lot of the bottom is drugs going to money for and a lot of people are in bar with these kind of guy exhibit from those these people,

you know, the police office, i believe the police officer who have to resign downgrade and not have a good story to say very far for the people that are involved in this drug trade. and therefore, there's a, there's no to bring some driving covering to do for, you know, granting back and why they're doing it. because there is no golf or the game which the government does when you're going to get a paper to give to this for, you know, sort of driving for a thank you for that. let me know how, let me just bring it down to how for the sake of time. let's look at the bigger fixture and talk about the whether this violence threatens not only obviously threatens money poor, but what about the neighboring states and the region before going to that, can i just add a few lines to the my area, bring me one very briefly yeah, and so i totally agree with the midst of all make when he says that the envelope,

this narco did origin, my oldest things hardly in was in these violence because uh, we can actually see that the laptop lauren order from day one. and we also see that there is a, an ample, it'd be then a 2. so this, that 2 radical a groups, namely the 1000000 uh, the mediately pointing to another, might dangled well, you know, being one to the 1000000 organizations. and then uh well, you mean one of the interview on the facebook, those mit by, from watching with the chairman of the meeting, the point openly inside of his followers. we didn't the quote to any of our traditional arrival on the hills. so this, in this sense, uh, happened to, you know, uh, uh, maybe not this amid all gardens, but this happens to be in a pre planned and a well calculated. most of these are ready to go over license with the beginning when i even spending this. okay, just answer my question,

please. just to answer my question, let's get onto what, what this means for the neighboring states as well as india as a whole. if the violence continues to say, uh, this is going to have uh, you know, lots of them. if it gets in small on the, in the state of money for us. so of course the healing value has been, uh, the way that, uh, or phone call. it seems quite another period. they have been administered defensively. and, you know, in the postcolonial appeared to have been, you know, brought into the same institute disciplinary announcement, but even off the sign to 5 years of invest independence, i don't see any, any, any sort of, you know, or existence or, or any, you know, of trust building or inclusive oh so, so you know, as in those on the part of, you know, either sides of the community now coming to you on questions one can actually see that there's a lot of ideal difficult proximity. for instance, if i bring in, you know, the median. so then this group like the connelly buck omen, his party,

which are also, you know, involved in a lot of the drug on the network. which means also getting more of a manual. the, you know, the chinese and, and, and also all the incidence groups, namely the u. n, a left or the p l a y, the military just in time young or so. therefore this sort of nexus and ideological, you know, proximity, in some sense. scammed a knee, is this that stop this or this step lives in the, in the lower find by got to you agree with that? is it fair to say that the this can have ripple effects um the stabilize ation for the geo politics of a sort of the region there? yeah, this seems useful to see the picture of the larger picture of what is happening is in miramar. there is a suit for the military doing the is well how offensive against the minority communities and also this will be the invoice will get you in groups are also there and manual is both dimensions as the civilian population has moved into the

insight. so is in bottom left is there has to be on video, vincent begins to g, believe me, 31st. so there is already violence in the neighborhood, 2 countries and many migration migration. you me see what the table is. it shows you, but india is not table then sense of this. so this population is found in the large number and manual the of the groups who have done in are we solving instigated wavelengths. and this is really a major have in the state of georgia and energy inside the government. as this i say again, the reason is also linked with this, leaving the borrower's book, the nexus, the international mixes and money. what is to be done? the 2nd, the trying, this is something a very serious matter for the need. so be, are so in the absence of

a political settlement up until this point, uh, what's going to happen next? well, i did say i agree with the journeyman to smoke just now is that unless you are in a position to interest peace making in my mind, you know, it's gone and just solve the problem. all right, so because he's right as the, the bottom is military joint talk gets more and more aggressive and the fighting gets more intense in pro and says, enjoining money board and who's on the stage where a lot of reasons of government, you know, who's broadening cannot be controlled, there's also a drug on the but at 500 because solution has been some the day got a new sure do both in my model because we've got to go back to the military with the groups. so you can all just wait and watch,

which is the name of the 3rd is a good not true and leave everything to the india in its own interest. how's your day going to be shifted for these making environment? i'm also in money for, it's hard to get a dialogue going between the different communities, the stats, the lines, and the interview. i don't think you're getting any. okay, and i'm to how there are reports that suggest that the beans, or if he's local representative who belongs to the cookie community, has asked the federal government to impose a separate administration over the hill areas and money poor. how likely is that to happen? do you think i but it is not just the media, pamela, but uh, you know, uh and, uh, who can easily and the list and then 7 of them from, you know, the ruling media at the am unless so one of them have taken a stance off the days of violence, a start that and then even one of the minister was the most,

leans and killed by you know, the more so now they are taking a stance that they do believe in the lead those people moody and so government in the center. but they no longer believe in the, the religious people keeping this and be rinsing. so therefore they have been demanding and, and of been consultation with the civil society to the nice and this and then various are the stakeholders and uh, the, the separate administrators and use the on the syllabus and at this point of time. now, okay, for you as, as i had all, it said that, you know, the, the, the uh, 75 years of the independence been to compete to ethnic groups as being the leading together with, you know, the end of a belly column to bots. then we could see a lot of socio economic disparity is new to under representation. okay, i'll have to just jump in there. i apologize. we have about 30 seconds remaining

and i do want to bug out to give us the final we're how do you think it's going to play out to you only have about 30 seconds or so about that's yeah, just the be says to be the priority at this point, but it be good enough to go out and list people are these on. i mean bold in the hills as well as into heavy uh, the meaningfulness. groups have gone, and particularly in the hills, there are several insurgents made to the veterans organizations who are having diebold with government of india. so they have to be dissolved and also the buddy who have taken us or they needs to be this unless you this all of the people of the last me likely to continue. the beast can only be possible if you stop this mean this. okay, on up the final word, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for my guess for joining us by god . so why not? thank you and i'm to how keep going and severe from oak. we appreciate your time.

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