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hello and welcome to the program i'm getting you. navigate on. india's northeast region is landlocked and states, they're rely heavily on new delhi for their budgets. but it's also a strategically significant border region and home to different ethnic, religious, and linguistic groups among the states as money poor. it's suffered esna, attention and conflicts involving on separate as movements for decades. rifle groups fight overland resources and identity, and now it's experiencing its worst violence since the 19 ninety's will go to or i guess in a moment's. but 1st, when we consume sharif, explains why long running tension has escalated into violence. this is ne, india made up of 8 states, several separate his movements had been active in this region, the boldest china bundle dish and my on my phone to hills and valleys. people living in money for have loan being divided along ethnic lines. the valley is

dominated by the majority, multi community that's mostly handled. the hills from 90 percent of the states area on a home to the minority cookies and the now gods. money full lives next to me on the the 2021. cool. that the paper from the chin community were linked to the cookies fling to find safety. let's say steve minister, brand sing has colder a few days. a serious threat to democracy and lead to drive to identify undocumented migrants. the state government has a two's the migraines of purity, protected for this land to cultivate trucks drive to evict them. the seo from kooky areas has and the people that violence and the state is the worst in decades, it began in may after the money for high school recommended the my take community being drunk with special try both state as a recognition. the cookies already have. now this central has some benefits to rectify in equality and discrimination. but the cookies feel this will allow others

to access the protected resources. the my take to have them complained about land owned by hill tribes being protected, preventing others from buying any more than 100 people had been killed in the violence and tens of thousands of paper force from the homes selves and some security forces have been deployed to the state, the internet has been shut down and it costs you in post. so human rights watches, calling on the indian government to immediately and impartially investigate killings by ethnic groups and security forces in money poor. it says, quote, accounts of partisan involvement by security forces in the killings has increased distrust of the all forty's and quotes. it's also urging new daily to work with community leaders to restore it. security. human rights watch also serves the money poor a government's internet blackout has severely hindered information gathering and reporting by the media and civil society groups. the government says the shutdowns

necessary to stop what it called the spread of this information on false rumors. let's not bringing our guests. joining us from new delhi is bad. that's all i know . who is the professor of jello harlow. that through university, he's also chairperson at the special center for the study of ne india in go. a hockey is a non, to whole kick in who is an associate professor of engine institute of technology go a how to his work focuses on estna identity politics, an aesthetic nationalism in north east india. and from co cutoff. we have severe a bowman who is a veteran journalist who has recently been in money, poor state covering the conflicts. severe is also the author of to puts on ne india in searching crossfire and troubled parents for a warm welcome to all. thank you so much for your time. so severe with the internet shut down. accurate information obviously could be hard to come by. so i'll begin

with you because you are just in money port earlier this week. tell us what you saw and what the situation was like. but it was a nightmare for journalists because you may be able to get a lot of information on it running story like this. but if you're gone across with your dog sending back the story to where you want to does all to be a nightmare, that's number one. but apart from that, one has to be ordered. prizes is driving the truck dog goods. are you more than really, or just a new wires are flying, take on the sauce, and the drivers insulted combustible, sensitive situation, stood indentured as to be born. so a revolution regards to the intensity of one's like a vision. i think also as to the duration of the getting extended. right. but uh, as an eye on the ground. so what did you see?

you know, it was very clearly every day that the state is still in the midst of a. so trying to do all the law numbers, if you're working the, you know, you're probably looking for. so the warranty. but there is obviously a major problem or mission between the 2 forces and the state police were to do not do very well. when some corners, man, but the guy, the revised his brochures and there's, you know, took off with them for the police all money and gave it to people of their own communities. which i know at the center by the way of your voice. and our thoughts were to be coming to know is where problems which went all the money. but that's a very serious situation. when the police gets got a to revise, the russians i'm give you, i guess, i mean, pressure of weapons are meant for release authorized user, but it's not going to divide years. i'm malls. that's

a very dangerous thing. i mean, it becomes extremely difficult to control. that's the case in my book. okay. do you go to the bottom dining? you're really guys who, you know, it's and you know the terms are taking place now and then get them there. why? because a lot of people should not i my homework on and then all the service for ok. just found by for a moment. let me bring a number to how to tell us. let's, let's take a step back and help us understand what's behind this current belt of violence and, and how would you describe the current divisions? are they, are they primarily ethic as well? the situation is on risk which is unfolding in the money for one of the not this in the state of india with more. ready the india and younger has to be in the agree by add new classes between the dominion valley being made to the people on the cookies, or communities who belongs to the side of the tripe. seems made, taught. so uh,

well, well, when waiting back to you know, how it begins in, in an app really in, in mid talk a process which was organized by the. ready tribal student union money board against the s the status of the month for the may days. i happened to so violence bits begin to end. the 2, it's on with district border land, some mist queens born the annual book. you are sending a post, which ease, uh, which has very a symbolic significance to the community. now ordering for today small or at least a 100 people have been killed so far. henri, it's more is yours, and tens of thousands have been internally displaced since taught me evening. but i also want to add that the, the use of, you know, more, her bombs, snipers and drones gasper, but he goes on the, you know, sending cookie believes is a source of full blown all wire way. it's again still keep those communities and

what they have experienced in a sense, can be i seen too many you creating a or, or a large on which is being forwarded to being to more or less and declared. let's bring it in the back. got a to give us your points of view on the situation and it sounds like the high courts directive to the money for a government seems to be the immediate trigger for uh, for the latest round of islands between the my chaise and the cookies. but to what extent do you think or can you tell us about the anger that's been simmering for a long time now? or yeah, it's a very long distance. the fear, the issue, the nation was against giving low but new bones is. can you tribes changes to this majority made days and a broadcast by the of the tribal communities? it all happened in all the districts, but somehow dividing,

screw up. it's unfortunate speak in the old only need to do this. but uh, this is not the issue of this. so how was it a good point? well, i still don't understand why such an issue would have led to highlands because this is a boss to do some of that. but it is best inducing the issues with how to find the dog in the snow because the bowl and the army loads that show and so community must not be given or must be even. there is always an ample, the amount for the space to look into. what, while one to is now today it is 0 almost 42 days. and the wireless steam does not seem to stop. there is always a possibility, a deal starting little violence at any point of time. and this i see is full of

reasons why is more of an ideological or want to go. uh, this force of function induced floorspace is the easy way to get these sides a 2nd is what is happening in the draw. so we need to, the 1st point is the key jo, communities whose population is around 7 to a lex uh, has been asking for quite some time of set, but it ministration of to be away from beautiful the government, the money. right. the of the majority made these are against separation of the door unity of this state of the money because it was being done 30 years before the begin bar of india. so when they just lived is part of the reason money was an independent kingdom. we became barbara indeed in

1949, the by god for the sake of time and for the sake of time limited, don't jump in there with one more question to you before i bring in my other guess . i mean, how do you respond to claims that over the past few months, the money for a government has reportedly taken actions and decisions which generate a sense of discrimination and security among the crew can community to respond to those claims. there is no discrimination. i don't understand what the discrimination is a little above the issues of dr. status to be given to them in order to make these would always be solved by the old discussed of institutional mechanics. and, but i'm more concerned with the kind of violence that hesitating about being part of the issue is, is a month. so for us to bring any by then said to him, at this point, okay, let me bring them to me. let me bring it down to how uh for a moment because i'm to have the might take community of if it,

even though they constitute, as, as we were saying a moment ago, they constitute 53 percent of the population. they're only confined to about 10 percent off the land in the valley. so do you think that this proportion of distribution between the might take community and the tribes people? is really the crux or one of the crux of the problem? yeah, because uh the, the month for this s t is that this uh, the tribals does not have any uh, issue or problem as such in the sense of the time. but uh, the more you know, the lives as in the, uh, a problem its the try booth on when it gets fuel is that they are, you know, we apprehensive that is the best step this is being given to the may, the communities who are much more at von, this blog who are much more, politically and domain and, and they also, you know, re present. uh, you know, uh, sort the seats all of the 66 of the state assembly. so they are, you know, way,

a much more, you know, uh, better and then, uh oh, you know, what do you send? so how, okay, the cookie comment is and then the travel call me this in general, are apprehensive that this, this particular, you know, wrong, single best is put this in some way. would that allow them to, you know, have, or on the land or have access to the tribal lens. so therefore, the constitutional problem using that is article $371.00 c, which has protected the tribal comment. this of the land that is not allowing them on 5 boost on or access to land in the areas. so the severe, severe, let's talk about the government's response. would you? because some say that the prime minister, severe in the render emoji has appeared somewhat indifferent to the situation. if there's been no meeting, there's been no visit to the area. when the violence began, he was campaigning elsewhere in the country. why do you think that there has been uh, silence on the part of the of the, the prime minister?

well actually we created the prime minister. this is a matter which is not in his do. maybe it's something that is the movie style that you guys are maybe involved, even in smaller groups, off your motor status, and he wants to repair an error. and therefore, when things go wrong, people are going to choose the problem. here's pretty simple and straight. it's a common, it's very near all the state govern. ridge incident is wrong by the b j b. and they have not only understood the dynamics of money but properly. they have tried to do both of their cert from a very. so what was the, essentially an ethnic prizes? they've tried to projected as a media star, what or something between bridges and they're doing that to sort of a donor something. what's already wrong way of dealing with this problem. the ongoing issue here is that they're not trying to

come up with the code set the solutions or if you were attempting to start the dial by which i mean or dial no between the different government. these were jobs are lower, include each other, right? the parts you know that so we are the people, the people in money or actually have confidence in the b, j. p. state government from what you saw well, without getting into a party. one of these i can fairly clearly say that both government is the result versions of all the state government and therefore a big fee that the common fuss did not have any idea that this really got to be such a violent were secretary. where did you, doctor? they could not get a group pharmacy drugs transfer very soon. and even when the center forces gave me

lots of numbers, this problem is going to be a bargain because some politicians on either side are trying to, from the flavor for their own best of interest. so okay, it's a deal for the state government. the system is a failure of the state government, a government, and what do you think that new delhi should be doing at this point is see, i mean it's easy to be in the state, but how, what will happen? nobody seems to be bothered. the whole issue came up in, in reality, so she told me $21.00 steam governors drive against a boat division will all be on both. these please finally leads to production of drugs, 0 ins, and others an internet, the dream of not of data resume that has been in operation to the state government trying to stall the cultivation. although opium bodies and somehow this is you rated

a big nexus of the mafia. politicians and i said the other is in general is books included. so this forces winters together all alone against the state governments. as 3 you did that have all of the items which is all engineered black i've, if you see created constructed loans. but the real issue behind is this drive by the states government against the division of flooding. boulder will be severe and the cause i saw your shaking your heads are on the point that my guess from natalie was saying, just give us your comments briefly, please. well, i don't really buy these pieces that are the photographs. if it up to, because of the size of both stopped the duration a, you know, a lot of a lot of these drugs going to money for a lot of people are in there with these kind of gangs,

or bid from those these people. you know, the police office of the lady police officers who have to resign the downgrade and not have a good story to say very far for the people that are involved in this drug trade. and therefore, it's a, there's no to bring some driving company to do for you, you know, planting buffer, why they're doing it. because there is no problem or the new game which the government does when you're going to get a favor to give to this for, you know, sort of driving for a thank you for that. let me bring another show. how let me just bring it down to how for the sake of time. let's look at the bigger fixture and talk about the whether this violence threatens not only are obviously threatened somebody poor, but what about the neighboring states and the region of people waiting to that? can i just add a few lines to the my every bring me one very briefly. yeah. and so i totally agree with the midst of all make when he says that the envelope does not include

dental raising. my oldest things hardly in was in these violence because uh, what we can actually see that the laps of law and order from day one. and we also see that there is a, an ample evidence to so that's that to radical, a groups, namely the 1000000 a, the meeting, the one to another i might dangled while, you know, being one to this, the 1000000 organizations. and then uh, well, you mean one of the interview on the, the, the facebook, those mit by, from woodson, we the chairman of the mediately point openly in the sight of his followers. we didn't quote to any of our traditional arrival on the hills. so this, in this sense, uh, uh, happened to, you know, uh, uh, maybe not this amid all gardens, but this happens to be in our pre planned and a well calculated. most of these are ready to go over nice and really big being in when i even spending this. okay, just on. so my question please,

is this the answer? my question, let's get onto what, what this means for the neighboring states as well as india as a whole. if the violence continues to say, uh, this is going to have uh, you know, lots of them if it gets and not only in the state of money for as such on of course the healing value has been, uh, the why that uh, phone call. it seems quite another period they have been administered differently and uh, you know, in the postcolonial appeared to have been, you know, brought into the same institute disciplinary announcement. but even off the 75 years of invest independence, i don't see any, any, any sort of, you know, or existence or, or any, you know, of trust building or equal c o. so, so, you know, as in those, on the part of, you know, either sides of the community now coming to you on questions one can actually see that there's a lot of, i deal as it goes proximity. for instance, if i bring and you know, the media and so then is group like the connelly buck communist party,

which are also, you know, involving a lot of the dropped on the network with them. it's also getting more of a manual the, you know, the chinese and, and, and also all the incidence groups, namely the u. n, a left or the p l, a y of the military just in time young or so. therefore, this sort of nexus and ideological, you know, proximity in somebody sends down to the dfcs stop list. all of this them lies in the order in the lower find by got to you agree with that? is it fair to say that the this can have ripple effects on the stabilisation for the geo politics of a sort of the region there? yeah, this seems useful to see the picture of the larger picture. what is happening is the mailing ma, there is a suitable the military doing the is overhaul offensive against the minority communities. and also this will be the invoice will get you in groups are also there. and manual is both dimensions as but assuming them both,

both pollution has moved into a insight. so is involved. that is there has to be on video since the beginning of june. believe me, the 31st. so there is all the countries and many migration, the migration you, me see, what do you mean for the choosing? but india is not the whole business of this. so this population is dog in the large number. and many of the groups who have done in our we service the gate in braces, and this is really a major have in the state of georgia and energy inside the country. as this, i say again, the reason is also linked with this, leaving the bottom there's but the nexus, the international mixes and money was big on the sinking, bought them dry. and this is something a very serious mentor for the need. so be,

are. so in the absence of a political settlement up until this point, uh, what's going to happen next? well, i did say i agree with the journeyman is full just now. is that unless you are in a position to interest these making in mama, you know, it's gone and just solve the problem. all right, so because he's right, as the military joint talk gets more and more addresses and the finding gets more intense in pro and says, enjoining money board and who's on the board near the stage where a lot of references of government, you know, who's broadening cannot be controlled, there is also a drug on the, but at 500 to get a solution has been some the day got a new sure do both in my model because we've got to go back to the military. it's the parties of the group. so you can all just wait and watch,

which is the name of the 3rd is a good not true and leave everything to the young india in its own interest. how's your day going to be shifted for this meeting environment? i'm also in money for it. sure. to get it done or going between the different communities, the stuff. so the lines and the interview, i don't think you're getting any. okay, and i'm to how there are reports that suggest that the beans, or if he's local representative who belongs to the cookie community, has asked the federal government to impose a separate administration over the hill areas and money poor. how likely is that to happen? do you think i but it is not just the media, pamela, but uh, you know, uh and, uh, who diesel analysts and then southern them from you know, the ruling media at the am unless so one of them have taken a stance off the days of violence a start that and then even one of the minister was the most,

leans and killed by you know, the move. so now they are taking a stance that they do belief in the lead those people moody and so nobleman the center. but they no longer believe in the, the religious people, a cheapness and billions inc. so therefore they, they have been demanding and, and of been consultation with the civil society to, of the nice and this. and then various are the stakeholders and uh, the, the separate administrators and use the on the so listened at this point of time. now, okay, feel as, as i had all, it said that, you know, the, the, the, uh, 75 years of the independence medical, the ethnic groups as being the leading together with, you know, the end of a belly column to bots. then we could see a lot of socio economic disparity is new to under representation. okay, i'll have to just jump in there. i apologize. we have about 30 seconds remaining

and i do want to bug out to give us the final we're how do you think it's going to play out to you only have about 30 seconds or so about that's or yeah, just the be says to be the priority at this point, but it be good enough to go out and list people are dissolved. i mean bold in the hills as well as into heavy uh, the meaningfulness. groups have gone, and particularly in the hills, there are several insurgents made to the group veterans organizations who are having diebold with government of india, so they have to be dissolved. and also the buddy who have taken us are they needs to be this. i'm this, you, this all of the people of the last me likely to continue the be skin all the possible if you stop this mean this. okay, on up the final word, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for my guess. for joining us by god, so why not thank you and i'm to how keep going and severe from oak. we appreciate your time. thanks for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting

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