ease of study by the you and the un put the, the total level of recovery funds needed at $400000000000.00 us dollars, but ukraine's prime minister who will be talking here. he put the figure at $750000000000.00 us dollars. that's just recovery, of course, on top of that, the west and other countries are investing militarily in the country. so the total level of a will, of course, depends on how long the fighting goes on. and basically, the appetite among those countries mer, electorates to keep funding bots estimate. but here make no doubt there will be huge promises. thank you so much. and i think bob, i'm reporting from london the number again, the headlines on l g 0. there has been heavy fighting and so don's capital just hours after is $72.00. our troops ended. there are reports, the warring sides have been holding talks to observe another cease fire for their

or you'd holiday next week. meanwhile, the situation. so don's west or for region continues to deteriorate. the state capital jeanina has been devastated by furious, fighting with the un says, has taken on an estimate. i mention the us state department says up to a 1100 people had been killed in the city. in more than 2 months, a fighting the spanish coast guard has intercepted a boat carrying thousands of migrants near the canary islands. more than 60 people are brought to shore, where they are being treated by red cross doctors. nearly $6000.00 migrants on refugees have reached the canary islands so far this year. it's significantly fewer compared to the same period last year. a canadian aircraft searching for a missing submersible has detected under water banking sounds. so the vessel lost contact on sunday. on its dive to the rest of the titanic of the north atlantic. 5

people are on boards. the search efforts are focused on both surface with c 130 aircraft, searching by site and with radar and sub surface with p 3 aircraft. we're able to drop and monitor so in our movies. today, those search efforts have not yielded any results. hunter biden, he's the son of the us president joe biden has agreed to plead guilty to, failing to pay income taxes and legally possessing a gun. so under a plea, deal biden is expected to agree to drug treatment on monitoring. and that agreement could keep him out of jail. biden's taxes on for and business dealings have been under investigation since 2018. speaking of the west president, he is called the chinese president change and paying a dictator. he made those remarks out of fundraiser in california. and it comes just over a day after the us sector of state anthony blinking was in beijing trying to ease tensions you up to date. with the headlines on al jazeera,

more news coming up at the top of the hour, but up next it's the stream. thanks for watching, bye bye, for now. between 2000 to 2008 colombian soldiers executed thousands of civilians, framing them as guerrilla fighters. to make it seem like the army was winning, the conflict once incentivized to the ministry. come on there now confesses in exchange for this and hope for gift fault lines. the confession on adjust the down the stream. a country that hasn't george decades of violent centers resulted in the task of at least 6000000 people. conflict in the democratic republic of congo is often overlooked, but today we are looking at the impact of the flight between the government and um,

goods and in particular m $23.00. some of what you will say may will be distressing . what to let you know that if we go any further in this program, we start with a survivor of a masika and to she she, that lots of coat was in november of last year. the survivor told his story just a few months ago. let's have a look at the bottom, we will do all the men who are in the church who pretend to be displaced. persons be of the rebels who shot to this. so they took all the men back to it but not a plantation. and they said, sit here and put your feet in the ho stand in a circle around the hole, and they started shooting them and they stopped counting the others next to them when the 1st whole was already failed. that's what happens. we was surprised. there was no one but god who can help us work so much to talk about helping us do that. combining this of really welcome to the stream. kimberly is like human rights activists for the democratic republic of congo as an alice analysis at the center

for research on congo. kinshasa, thanks for joining as some government in east and the all calm go we have lose. oh my i stuff. she's a freelance journalist and a washington dc coming kidneys. not to or yeah. is a deputy advocate direct at human rights watch. good to have with you. i wish it was under better circumstances. if i say m 23 to you loose. first things that come to mind and then combine a 1st things that come to mind. very few stock. well, thank you so much and thank you so much for having me. if you see, i'm trying to speak to me. the 1st thing that comes to my mind is and trouble and conflict that has never had an end as somebody can continue to them. 23 is a luxury right of an agreement signed by the government. we've another group called the c and d p in 2012 right?

it 2012. that's when they created the name on it and it and put a few cents on march 20. you bet you almost for the 3rd 2009. uh, the community is government sign a in agreement. we have the rebel groups in the p a that made them actually put down the guns in 2012 that one back into bush saying that the commodities government didn't. that's a by the agreement, but few things happened during that time. it's not just that the increment was not fully approved by the government, but there was something that's happening at the time, which was the rest of the school thing. and the push to risk arrest a from a rebel leader of the, the, of the same group who's to enter the i c. c. and during the push to our rest team, that's when the m $22.00 was created. so any time i hear the m $23.00 hourly say that is masking, actually the nature of the rebel force that exists, which is a continuation of existing rebel force, him to come to what proxy rebels supported by neighboring countries. koreen. this

is exactly why it's difficult for the international community to follow what is going on in the d all say, it seems from the outside to be incredibly complex. if i say to m 23, what would you summarize box and me so the international community thanks for the question. i think so my to kind of this just said, i think it's, it's m 23 speaks to our history or failed. the implementation of the disagreements . yeah. it speaks to uh, the regional dynamics. the proxy was the neighboring countries. namely, you kind of wonder, i have been, has been exhibiting, but most importantly, it's the chairs and the mazda of trusted teens. the work fines that have been limited and the impacts on the civilian population. i think about

the women and the girls we interviewed in the, in the context of our latest reports. women who told us that that the tragedies they went through and, and, and how they were for instance, raped in front of the children and they, and the husbands. the stream that goes with it is also the divest ation. the human is human crisis that we think unfolding so, so the law of political will is a region that has been, that has not been able to muster according to the action 2 and a cycle the cycles of uses and holes perpetrates us accountable. as so many sales along this route, that takes us from 2012 right up to date combined. and i'm just going to help out audience just do

a very quick timeline. so week start in 2012 just so they can keep up with where we are right now. so march 20. so at this movement is a kimberly's, tootsie melisha. this goes back to the we're one to genocide. so the roots go back to that, but in 2012 m $23.00, we're in eastern congo, and they seize the capital of new q, a province, a collection of the companies, only the un troops up for them. the group essentially signed a piece doing that within 2013, only thing has intensified since 2021 and again and 23 back in north cuba. and then, well it has withdrawn from some parts of that profits in eastern congo. as members continue to attack civilians roof, why, what do they want? but exactly, the advocacy always say that based on, on the agreement that they have,

we become released the government. but the communist governments, i've done everything in order to make them seize all of this, all the claims and everything that i've been doing in the eastern part of corporate . but this is not happening, but also we have that one issue which is the run then government backend the m times discrete. so that's where it's this issue becomes a little bit complex because the other 23 is not working on its own. it has to put from the one that tells me and i want to show you a quote that we got just before we went on from the we're one development via the embassy in washington dc. so this is k, a, a come body respond to this. we're one to is not going to be intimidated by these human rights watch campaigns of this information and distractions from ongoing regional peace efforts coming in. i know you are ready to talk about that, but let me just go to campbell a festival. this was an incident we actually today no prompting. we do not. we do

not agree with the allegations that we want is involved and back in and 23. what do we know for sure of those on june, 13th of this year of this month. the you and go from the extra publisher reports that includes aerial footages and for the graphic evidence of the run, the defense forces incentive, the d r. c. they even included the names of random officials, run down the army officials involved in the support of the m $23.00 in the documentation, the list of the names, right. and they've got the information from their own on the got the information from intelligence services in the region. so in terms of evidence that already exists, we are beyond allegations now we are beyond acquisitions. the reason why for the past 2 decades, the dfcs last 6 me as people which is a shocking that you would even say 6000000 who conflict in the wild predicts

6000000 casualties index. it is because there is a culture of improvements in new york city by the girlfriend, peanuts it can only hand through justice because when we have 6000000 people that in europe, it different action was taken in the or see the was a proposal of having an international tribunal for the r c that's not being implemented. we know the perpetrators, we normally it shows this that blessing the congo, but no punitive actions is thick and we hear condemnation. uh, a few days ago the united states for that is spec. let's talk on the, around the you, when we report how, how, how, how statements, how helpful a statements, a strong statement for the united states. what does that do? how many lives that safe after to the kids? he doesn't, but in the case of the united uh, united states, we don't need the stick man anymore. what we need is the action actually implementing the own law. the difference with the united states is that they actually have a law all the new york public law,

109456. the democratic republic of congo released to create a democracy promotional act of 2006, written by reco obama signed by possible sheets. it has a 6 this law clearly states in the section one to 5 that the secretary of state, which is to the secretary blinking has the power to revolt aids, to a new mission, this the life of the cold. so this is actually a us lot secretary blinking and he's visiting the r c issue. if you years ago, he himself say that the evidence presented by the united, that initial group of expertise, credible yet the fail to implement on the why was say it's failing a career. let me just bring you in here just a moment ago i showed human rights watch page here. d, all. com go mass grace tied to ro when the back m 23 even say allegedly allegedly but a tied to a one to back m 23. you know, they special 3 now just just to say that human rights watch conducted

over a 100 interviews in person in coma and over the phone between martian b. as i mentioned we, we published 2 uh, 2 investigations. um, we documented them no killings, cases all 3 by and 23 fighters between october and march differential cottages in the city and. and the tribute territories we documented cases of exclusive weapons which injured and killed civilians in the in must se um, in case you should, we documented the presence of these 14 must please cases of executions. um and, and, but we've also found um between may and purpose. 2022. how the kimberly's army. and that goes to some of the issues that come by the raise the communities on me with the, with a question of what is militia,

as well as the democratic forces for the new probation of wonder if they and this by its acronym. i have committed a serious crimes including great and have and have triggered uh ethnic features against uh, uh, to say communities. uh, well not to say that. uh, obviously we take note of the, of the statement that the one to the government has, as has put out. um it's uh, our oldest one to see that it's a familiar position to be a to be id. no, no, just be so if you to run a couple of other governments when you're doing investigation on human rights validations, whether they africans or western governments. um, so that is uh, that goes without saying that. uh, obviously we would, documentation has a uncovered a serious crimes. we are calling for a forensic preservation of evidence calling for an end uh

to the support. uh, 223. we calling for a uh, shipment wise, did you, did it just policy to be was in the original 1st appointment that you stopped for can community deployment. uh that is ongoing. um, an an, an assignment. uh, we really uh, calling on regional human rights institution such as the one or the african commission on human and people's rights to carry out investigation. i mean, i know is a cool put off the 20 years. is anyone listening? well, the should be and wish will continue. right. let me really on the roof. i want to bring in a fellow journalist a. her name is wendy bashi. it is not just for one day who is involved in the instability of the democratic republic of congo. many more interests are involved as well. when deep ashley spelt it out,

i love you to pick up on the back of what she says and tell us more. he's wendy festival. today the interest of uganda and of, and one that in the just see a can be put on one aspect. i mean, for me, it's the economy aspect. as we all know, the jesse is very rich, the country as gold, diamonds, uranium, cool bunch, and many other things. and these facts can be one of the reasons why many of the country, it's not on a rhonda and uganda, many of the country in the great lakes. i really interested in taking power and control of the g i. c. yeah, thank you so much. well uh, what, when do you see our she's talking about you guys are and rhonda. yeah. till now. i mean, until now we have evidence that rhonda is been back by. it's been by came to anticipate and contributing to the conflict that is happening in the it's an independent of

people. but when it comes to your grandeur, the comment is government has been very clear about the position that to then to has in this conflict. because i mean, i think what the company's a government have has these have been, you've done that is a security interest. because if we look at, for example, the operation she's out is that is being held by the u. p. s. together with the company's army in the producers of a tory and not careful, they're fighting against the $8080.00 if so, i mean the company is a government has much hits it. clearly what the position of uganda eats in this context. but also the system one is from the cyber society. what driving the same floor in the ground, in those regions which are well paid to pay that. and since it's available that being said, things like that we used to see at the braces of, of different um, and such as of the neighboring countries. testimonies are they,

bye for now. evidence shows that rhonda is the one function and can take a moment or when you go to add a neighboring countries, they come with this government hasn't, has, hasn't said it already. okay. all right, so on the chief of just some thoughts here from my view as a writer says rolanda and the d all c domestic matter. but the big picture and the root cause is about the rich me know is, is this about money? symbolic it is about the resources and the history of the kind of assistance model they found in 1985, 14 glo, full of control of the taking us way back. it was actually for rubber that we use for the car, the tires of, of course, it bicycles, right? we go today to 45, we bought. com, those are radium. you can have your shoot me and like i was like, i was on the batch enhance today from 96 to present the colors. we noticed as we are the center of model. let's acknowledge that you won't have your cellphone. yeah, that's a so and we've outcome was minerals, but what's important to see and to connected back to what has happened to ship is

that the crime scene to ship is spelled the 1st time it happens. it has happened for 2 decades in 1998 massacres, documented by you and complex, but got rebecca guard where 200000 civilians presumably were killed. all these appear. so nice thing. not even sure if you're going to this atrocities for us, why kill civilians. it's a technical displacement whenever you are, muscle cranks, if in the else in public ripping women, if public those things out to terrorize the population. when it happens in your community tomorrow, you are not going to be in the same area because you're afraid we have must be split slats over 5000000 because some estimates from 2 to 5000000 in front of the display screen with these last a few days few months, few years you are seeing the development of mining coefficients in those cuz you play the people out normally medical sessions. you also have disposition of lens where i have position left the king of the lance. but for that too and,

and that's where at least for eric, where we have spending is on seal. there is justice, they cannot be peace. so we are signing disagreement of disagreements with people who committed the crime yesterday. so they'd be most like a civilians. thank you. once i read, put them in the queue in, say, 2008 is still surprising to me, seeing if you, which is about call m, 232 red women. and to should have done that before. but what has happened when they kind of built the agreement that a 72008 give them an estate. and that's why also some of the, the implementation of i prove it becomes a problem. how do you give a rebel leader a but how do you, i'm this before ripping women. how do you welcome at that? right. so that becomes a much more complex, but we don't believe that just dealing with the m $23.00 is the solution. it has to be dealt with at the regional level. you'll run that and you've done that in 2012. the stopping of $23.00 was to the committee commission. what actually happened?

the united states, we have a, a to run. that was a pro money to measure in 2013. we saw the m 23. these appear pretty much busing. that's the the going to cease fire it. they could lead or they are coming back. but the same nature of picking in 2012, it's not what's happening now. this seems to be some form of i think one department, i'm probably so take a pull. certainly a couple of things that i want to share with you cutting you can assess although 2nd huh. go ahead. yeah, no, i just wanted to equal what somebody just said and then just to reinforce the facts that come and see in to tell in 2021, we see a president you security approving of trying to build roads linking, yukon to, to uh, to to to campbell and at some obviously analysis have been made around the fact that that is also a driving factor in the, in the regional in the regional dynamics. so you've dundas escalating military and

economy engagement in the seat because while these rules are being constructed, there was, is the deployment of the youtube. yes. so you have obviously when the actual, the, some of the seas holton, for instance, and up in wonder. but also significant amount is able to, to, you've gotten to the up. we're not gonna where the 1st, the 1st inclusion of the i'm 23 happened. so obviously you have all these, the nexus between 6 minerals, a revolution unemployed in boxes that has really faced for the kids now. all right, so can we, let me bring in some, some, some more voices into our conversation to so what is hit for some of the people who are also involved the u. n. h c r. then as a couple of thoughts, this one is really important about displacement and company is already frank. why would you knew so many people out of the way will to get to the manuals his and jelly?

look on situation of displacement in the d. c is part of the way it is a situation where by we have some 6300000 into and i need the space people to sing the friends with the fifty's is that different across i need to imagine that found it. we have $523000.00 plus a c g originating from macon building counties. we have more than 1000000 communities, cds in building counties, a huge displace people refugee classes that he's not making headlines every day. and why we talking about this today because of the humanitarian crisis, the sexual violence. i want you to key and i want you earlier about one person's experience because this one person is many people in east them. come go, have

a list and have a look, a cool place and then and mention because of the crisis we have in the camp 2 weeks ago, i went looking for would like the other women do to sell it so that i could buy salt . and so, but there we found 4 men armed with machetes, we'd fled, but i tripped on a stone and fell down. 3 of these men followed my 2 friends, and the last one had stayed with me and raped me. i couldn't scream because he told me that if i screamed, he would kill me with his machete. so it says, not taking the violence from m $23.00 united nations. secretary general was aust about work where i was am 23, getting the weapons from. and this is what he told a friend or from 24 interview. and they also is a what she doesn't say that have a live imply to come for somebody like his own to see them you have the most. as

you are aware, i think the reason for these reason demonstrations is the fact that the united nation is not able to defeat the em 23 2nd land. but the truth is that the m 23 today is a modern arm with heavy equipment that is more advanced and the equipment stuff on disco, the level of the school is going to do one, does have this equipment, does it come from lawanda? in the past, they come from somewhere someplace julia and you seem to say, yes, they come from somewhere somewhere nearby. they were not born in the forest. they come from somewhere green on youtube. one of the us says that i've noticed this issue in the democratic republic of congo. nobody is held accountable for them. this green bearing in mind, the human rights watch report. how is a calculated but to achieve, where does the justice come from? okay. think jessica should come 1st from due to paris. so kimberly's government and it's the wonder and government us. and it

also comes from a concerted effort to put pressure on both governments to investigate the uses that not just human rights watch, but other institutions, including including the u. n. a group of experts have documented you mentioned the, the human determines, uh, situation which is sort of when you, when you see what can i say, sions like and assess, say that they provide a church is 670 full survivors of sexual violence in the in 2 weeks, the last 2 weeks it april. uh. when you see about caps for 15000 people? correct? yes. one sentence, the finish. oh full. go ahead with the end of the shay. so um, just to say the accountability is a must to break the cycle of abuse and actually saucen folding and implementing

an agenda that will stick. right? that's will provide security change movie news. thank you. degree degree is click on via and to ask us, watching on youtube, on around the wells, us the next time take the asked. we can narrative from applicants perspective side to based on, you know, from us to short documentary spine, african filmmakers. and that's going to be the pressure for,

for the taste of the sun from madagascar and football from new series of africa direct on which is the latest news as it breaks of the building instead of being spent to make the network better. experts say investments are needed in technologies that make appointment. facebook with detail coverage, it will likely remain in the hospital for the next 2 to 3 weeks. as they advanced in their recovery process from around the world, they say they are progressing from the south. advancing around a week, the facing liliana teams does the un fits the purpose was like many critics sites just pump solution doesn't get anywhere near enough done to the amount of money that is poured into its hard hitting interviews . you think look to their lives on washington, those from body to the go its own and to build this on thoughts, providing ons,

for centuries, people have been taken care of are. so i have every confidence that future generations will do it as well via the story on told to how does era, we understand the differences and similarities of cultures across the world. to what we've been using kind of calls that matter to you, the, the one that is hosting an international conference to help you crane recover from the conflict. the british prime minister, which has to knock is expected to unveil to financial assistance package, including a $3000000000.00 credit from the world bank and currently the us sector of state antony blinking is speaking at that conference. let's listen in adopting these and .