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hello welcome to the program. i'm told mccrae unemployment poverty and the stagnant economy are a few of the core issues facing zimbabwe. and when they hit to the polls in august, millions have found themselves caught in a wave of high inflation, unable to afford the basics. now and several other social issues, including crime to the mix. and you have a recipe for deep seated verse of dissatisfaction. the 2 main candidates are expected to be a 2 year old incumbent president emerson, and then we got a quote from the governing center policy. and his younger rifle opposition made a nelson to mesa from the citizens coalition to change. so will they deliver on the promises that i'm making devices in what challenges will verify? so we'll put that to our guests and just a moment. but this, this report from her in the task that who was outside the high course in her all right. village and season ever facing the, the guy i'm in is the mobbing candidates, the files, the papers that the different nomination going across the country,

those waiting for the presidency, 5 and here at the high court in the capital high, right. the key thing on both of them lives would be the economy and the high cost of living price is a basic commodity of the more than doubled in recent weeks is high unemployment. if people are frustrated for opposition leaders, they say that they can send the body of voting and vote to intimidation. they image that some of the support has not been systematically targeted by members of the winnings on the parties on if you have denies that engagement. so what's going to happen next? the, on his we'll have the various campaign bodies across the country, the one who's on the approximately low interest election manifesto this weekend. and that applies with the same in the coming days. and the coming week mom has been both on the 23rd outside when a being that would be a lot of people here. remember what happened in 2018 when the main opposition either nelson janisa came very close to the thing president image of the readings on the policy. so if we wanted to see, would this be another type of race,

or would it be an outright hardwood task playing such it's been a bumpy political road to where we are today in 1993 then prime minister problem, regardless forces were accused of killing thousands off the crushing of rebellion in 2000 in 2001, his supporters took control of white on farms and handed them to the black population. and the loyalists, which eventually led to economic decline were copy one presidential election in 2009, which the opposition projected as for which he lives. he would then go on to win again in 2015 and november 2017. the copy was ousted and replaced by emerson, magog way and to immigrate defeated his rival, nelson to mesa in the 2018 election. well, it's spring and out just now and around, ripen. smith, sideway and economist basins, and bob ways, capital inventory of his peak ahead of the southern africa program at the institute

for security studies, which is a south african think tank also. and right, and i, reuben, it behind a political analyst and social commentary to a welcome to all 3 of you. thank you very much for being on inside story tonight. if i can, please begin with you. how. what does your take on the political site, the political situation, 2 months out from the election? how much trust is there that these elections are going to be fair and free? thank you so much for inviting me to a program. so let me search on a movie. yes. with music notes to say that's so far, the elections did not seem to be free at all. they just remember that the election is nothing. is a process. so the, the election that's just, it's towards all this stuff is at the end of the previous election credit 18 and solve for the past 5 years. what we're seeing has not been good stuff,

not to go well for a free way and credible election. we have seen that the authorization is not to be not allowed to come pay. really. most of that is where they go out to come. patients are probably gonna be assigned to box most of the time they've not been given to me yet. as for the police, we have also seen that's a little commission itself. there's been of late so many quotes up. this is the mutation, all the founders, that's i use the constituents from election. there's so much consult this is i don't exactly find exactly the area. that's a pretty dimension. you know, it'll be all positions from most of the some because the choices have been, there's such that we call we consider that to get him in. and that's now the opposition, you less likely or the get the seats in the area as well. more areas which i know that the ts from old mark mark was teach was created. so

order. yes, yes, that is the whole process. we can't even go on to display portfolio, meet me as, as long as i've never been stay covers in the stage console me it to be to if it wasn't done that you all we have. yeah. yeah, of course. what, how the president is performing? well, how does that will be a fucking sleep under mental health? and yet, to me tell me the state courts or me if anything, it's not too near anything the position to be labeled. so loud and straight. uh, but just as people would cause problems if people see the problem that the face baldwin is proceeding as being the creation of the opposition supposedly working with for an ident such as western times. so you'll find, as we've also seen,

a lot of political 5, especially in the past year or so with the position. so what does the between up with the head report or if i'm direction what position member to be a member including if i miss every moment, was the allegedly accepted and we've no one. yes. be comfortable. so that's the same time we see that. um, whenever the opposition decides to to, to, to engage with the public with this membership, most of the men meeting are they are the police and some of the members that this it. and then also they to cause the job. some kind of that was the vice gym and the main office they should see to see what was the cost of it without the trial. for the past one, yes, 12 months is really calculate. there's no try the united bales and what we are expecting there to be

a 3 credible peaceful election as long as i could say, please don't wait. we can have a level. let's say we incredible is i don't think these things are this of putting, putting, di, thank you very much. that's, that's a pretty di, outlook you're putting out there. and then is that how the people in some pathway view these elections as well as i bet pessimistic? well, use the standard you is the, the control chart. elections above it is really not change in the age as you know, the elections around. so is there maybe 2 inches by the institutions or all the elections as to the one chart process? so the, you know, because of the patronage system that we have. so the yeah. on the, on the school,

but obviously any insurance on it, man, people not really struggling, you know, looking for any eviction because you're not expecting you can change. so it's more like a lift and get it done. so we can, you know, a lot of these know, major issues, fundamentally transformational fundamental changes, usually in colorado and the social structure. so it really feels like the, the, does it just going to be, i guess, progresses normal peers. i want to come to your, i mean, been just touched on briefly to help like an influence of the military playing in the selections. i mean, now they basically pulling the strings behind the scenes here as well. i mean, that's a good question. common and, and, and of course the role of the military in symbolically in politics and economics is a, an arena where there's much contested uh, debates the,

there is clearly a growth since the coo, in 2017 old military interest in terms of personnel being deployed into the economic sector and into areas of the administration and political sector. this is not a clear cut issue of men in uniform. a pop at most during the politicians in front of this is a unique is above the inversion of military influence. but there are very clear indicators that uh, the ministries political partisanship which day in places in the past of articulation very clearly, that partisanship tools, the incumbent zone, and p. s, the, the guarantees and the 20 says you can constitution about a non interference by the military insightful. i'll simply not with the type of that written on, at this juncture. i mean, there isn't a fair, a full chair uh evidence that they're involved in the crew itself. and then of

course, the fact that the vice president, his diploma chief of the defense full, some senior members of that. but as i said, this does not necessarily mean these are the interest of the military per site. but the interest of individuals in the leadership of the military or former senior titles who were in the military and read, employed elsewhere is not all that enriching the military as about enriching individuals associated with the military and associated with the running policy. so you basically talking about corruption, the on to, i mean 10 to is that, is that a big divisive problem? and some bob white like this. how big a problem is it ends. and by the way, at this point in time, especially around the election time, yes, it's a, it's a very big problem. what is, has been right to say to the media, to have balls, you know what it's cost, say, independent. let's remember the use of this country. it's 10 to a live, but i said suddenly it's me, but it's, it's struggling. at least i know that's actually

a fight to the push. the way i like to go past the problem is that we actually don't need to use the sense for me. these are minnesota, we saw this say into professional professional, nonpartisan military, they remain aligned to the political movements of the subscriber. so you'll find that today, it's not a surprise to find a new set for monday open. you saw that. you sent me the typical monday, openly declared that supports let me really say we're not going to send me any what, what did not participate in the live, but i said, struggle. mm hm. so you also find that there's been some the paper in relation on my paper, some of these evolutions waste, expose that some of the news the news is becky pointed out the rest of this obviously, but some individuals within the meter would have some serious deep that's the new

test, the no my me but you know, you know, deep into the corner of your country. so after the cool of 2017, you will find that there was so much speed says it's pressure from the quarterly fund that any sports will fit, change your leadership with changes, which by 3 occurred to be each with getting the rolling that economic tools that they did in the economy of the country is, is you can say the kentucky. so you'll find that the military is fine. comforts in this stuff. that's cool remaining. if it's sold products, is they, they are to find someone who's in power today. what was going on wrong is that uses, we don't know what happened just and that's something we don't know. we don't even know how to hook up. it was new. why was it? what do you want? we want to be either. why does the meaning try to something in that house?

again, it's the best that be protected for the past 3 decades. wonderful digits. why? what happens? why does it turn again? so we'll see that they have some questions that need to be come into it and say, what of the interest of the military, all of these, and what is it exactly simple and what is it that looks to them? so you vision, you'll find that's that, but then it seems that it's kind of followed throughout the the books and plus the new terry brook 50. yeah. yeah. class one of the big people about that. the majority that live. ok. it's a mix. so you're fine with that. i do not see the not be that the kind of government is looking at the reading in the election on the hold on one of the media tech supply. tea. that's the case. anything happens on these are meant that will be difficult to. okay, i'm going to talk about the economy for a minute because obviously that is

a huge issue. possibly the biggest issue facing zimbabwe at this point in time. since can you just as the economist the, on the show? so that can you, can you just give us an idea of how dia it is at this point in time and what you think needs to be done to try and fix it, especially when it comes to inflation. yeah. okay. you just yeah, you know, i don't think anything can be done in the short to the structural issues in your website to maybe to start to be there by the time is the way that are based on 6 days of mining focusing the retail sector and then the 30 percent of the company almost 6, but it doesn't really answer so we didn't come to the resort to meet with that the minutes of the meeting,

but just thought it was because the informal saying that you know, maybe the day on the drum, on the day to day basis. so the major operation significant challenge in the car is not working. is about, for example, new interest rates and maybe the bar, but they still money. so you made any money on the specific d, the and so we need to be buried. our way, either way, the baby with the, you know, we always the and what happened is that the issue is no money,

but i'm fine with the because no $1.00 is unique in the us dollar. so these are the other right in front of me or the mom her and my are as long as really we are going people affinity as long as it may have to pay to 5 years. what are the enterprise, which are the products and services. so that's the issue such as the, you know, they do the job when it comes to actually providing the vision. and basically, what are the, what is the, who will have the online order, which is how the people will go outside the country. because they don't exposed to the test bed. the

rock which, which is 0 is an issue, but it's not the name of the stories that are the issue. it is, you know, i see that much more likely to make sure that they actually have created people involved and actually i refer to it. so those are the issues of genes actually what a lot of people. yeah. and the model because we now have a cycle when the better system or the, you know, people that i just have the phone, the phone 6, the leave it there. what is my problem is everybody's product, you know, really moving after the engine. so the waiting for you say listen, this is what, what it would be in the long run. a p has been cyst outlined, a long list of very,

very serious issues. and obviously things are going to remain the same, will get even worse. and in the short to mid term. i mean, how long before people been together and actually rise up against the government and demand real change? do you think that there is a possibility as well? yes and, and i'm so bins could add a whole raft of other issues to to, to that list and what this means for the miseries ational of most involved winds at the moment. uh, what we've seen. uh for a number of reasons is that some buttons have tended not to protest on the street uh were in they have, they've been met with brutality. and we saw that earlier on in the current governments a 10 year. uh well, just off to the elections man again in january of 2019 when my, that munition was used for the 1st time and it's involved with the crowd to deal

with protest as a i think it as above me is driven by what i called the politics of survival and opportunity and, and survival is, is a key tenant for many people. they will look for options. well that has meant for many is to leave the country. and of course, we see the politics of, of, of, of the tspra dynamics play in some different parts of the world. i expect if the situation as we see in terms of this kind of directory doesn't a media, right? we'll start to turn the corner. and then we will see more people leavings above we were attempting to do so. and that means more people in south africa, which of course, is a heavily politicized issue at the moment, considering the, the election is coming next year. and so that's a good way for um, the presence of

a large number of foreigners has become a webinar issue in domestic politics here. so yeah, the, the, the full cost is, is not proceed uh at the moment unless we see some serious opportunity for a stabilization of the switch license ends. and bobby, which really does require dealing with as bins and a set the structural dynamics, but also psychological dynamics. we will not see a turnaround. apologies for located obviously, not everyone can leave the zimbabwe though. i mean, last month and you little was introduced to that lowest criticism of the government um jobs. the patriotic bill contains a close that says wilfully damaging the sovereignty of national interest. and by why is a criminal act 10 day, what is being the reaction from the people to that bill is been at the shock needs to be strong,

shocking savings of cause we expected this and saw this coming. they'd be talking about this, but septic bill for a long time now the to the manual position vector be sense because they're not governmental organizations. that's a piece for be tell you the work they talk about what is happening to the country. so the major problem on that bill next, wow, do you decide additional each of the problem, not in the come to way missional i decided to buy in the boy becomes a problem. i can come, you know, and i'll just say like i said above, with the ability to set up the machine to not hospitals. and they said you had said in the world decided, you know, come to your technician, the image of the country. well know if the, if i talked to bill had be elected by now, maybe that would be charged for, for, for the charges they shortly to then go to this its,

it's not you have to be to make the diesel so 1030. 0 pay the whole lot. yeah. yeah, no i you risk, i mean, but once it gets pulled into a little, you at risk of not being able to speak out like you like you have been doing over the last 20 minutes. so sorry. definitely most definitely a lot of the bubbles would be at least because let's, let's look at this. yeah. okay. got it. take to the international media. media turned on media outlets already. it said it to be perceived as if i'm tennessee, the country to the international community. so i'm by, let's possibly biology, if i show to x that we have today. so now a days with the well, then went to the or on pizza on social media. so anyone, anything that can be there is some way across the world, the wild we define, you're talking to the international community. good moment before we talk,

you're talking to the international community. so they expect all being up to the of the technician that he may jump in time to meet with national interest, social security. we look at your most and none of the mentors in addition to but with the case with buses, that's a base. yeah. for the best, that's a base yet, so i can't wait till the next the week that which boss is involved with national citizen from communicating what they need to wait for the show agent or what a government. so the benefits to go to, to, to a, to them. but today the not added to this be december, american amber which i believe december. and we just spoke about these issues that are happening in the time. i can be up to use as much as he said, we'll gladly violated that. didn't talking to it, did the government? yeah, i mean outcomes. is there something you just one?

yes. we are just because of this law and a lot of people now you fire. we have cell, since i see you will invite someone to participate in the program because i think they are using my, my right. i might as much as they end up having a good enough to be you guys above that. they're just using that we used to see with the population. okay. a peers i can send you a ching to, to jump on it. do you want to respond to that? yeah, i mean, i agree to certain except about 10 days saying, and i think that there will be a chilling effect from this legislation. if indeed the president signs it into law . it's sitting there along with the private voluntary organizations amendment act, which also needs to be signed, which is another little that appears to be comprising civic spice as well. i think it's important to remember the way the rules of employee it ends in but we in certain instances is often selective as

a weaponized one particular purposes. and i think this is the fear that many people have that was is unlikely. uh, the law would pass constitutional muster, but of course, there are questions about capture of the constitutional court of it. the question is, will it be employed or will it be used as a kind of sort of damocles over the head also society? and i think given the be think that civil society has had of and the opposition over the last 20 years or so. the what has been referred to by some opposition need is the harvest fair, a continues to read fluids for this kind of practice. ok. we've just go to a minute or 2 left and so i wanna finish with you. i mean, is it any available that the selection will end up being disputed and that violence will inevitably follow. do you think? sorry, i think we are, we have significant, you know what the, what the next hour or so i don't think they like to finalize it before. but mine is

the extension of the meeting. we have the situation, we, you know, we don't have the election that in this. yeah. you know, the, because you see as long as we triggered that level, but i'm on for this everybody in spite regarding getting the economy so hopefully to resolve the issue and be able to get a better time to make it better, to meet that day. thank you. so much. thank you. 2 will 3 about yes of and some say way. 10 day reuben, the fun and p is peter, thank you very much for being on inside story and thank you to you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website else, is there a dot com? and for further discussion goes, well facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can

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