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missing a survey into the of the doesn't mean that syria is the same again for if you use to return back. but as if you, jeez, we have seals concerns that this kind of normalization could lead to the fullest of 10 of those. um, if you use in some countries, especially these companies that have intends to re normalize their relations with us. a comment section on which it is now live as a way to invite you to our discussion. joining us from belinda. what's the most of the syrian activist and fellow at refugee international with us from still kind of a ma our, she'll great director of the tiny affairs with the city in about is the task force and a paris marie force the scene. yes, 3 advisor within your pin institute, the piece guess is really good to have you here. i am going to start with
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a comment from the style, the for a minister about why president bush or alice side was informative, bought to the hourly what they are. we think it will do for students that have a lesson. that's a problem. and then what i got in the existing situation was not able to continue. and there is no way to solve this area in crisis without a dialogue with the syrian government. and our belief is that the position of syria is inside the arab league. now there are syrian refugees who are willing to return to their country. we should help them to find a way to return. there is a very difficult economic situation in syria, all due to the existing situation, which is affecting the syrian people. therefore, we are interested in finding practical and realistic solutions, and this will not happen without a partnership with the government and damascus practical realistic solution. oh ma is that stop civil war in syria? we'll on the journey towards the end of civil war and your country. there is no
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such thing as a political solution or any talking about origin that's still coming its people on a daily basis. today, the regime has bombed in the countryside of a liberal killing people, enjoying people. so he is not safe, and the regime is the reason that syria is not safe. and as long as the machine is killing people on a daily basis, bonding people detaining people, killing them under torture. that means that wisdom is not ready for a political solution that the regime made the life political solution just to delay . the solution is celia. the resume would never engage an accommodation that demands the release of the detainee is because for the regime the detainees are the card. they used to put pressure on the families on the ceiling and community side to not believe that bringing aside back to the arrow. bleak is a step forward to bring peace to syria is definitely not going to happen that way. well, so how did you make sense of this happening? is it to get
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a cadet more helping to serve the sections so that that is more difficult? well, what will be the practical reasons for this happening? um, well, thank you, but let me start by saying that i think that's part of why we get we got here today is that um, it's been a hit of and i think it's for me it's crucial to to, to highlight that what's happened in syria was not a stupid word. people did not flee syria because of the civil war people resulted in 2011 people demanded their basic human rights and then of a war was waged by this thursday by this dictatorship against civilians. and, and so i think, i mean, it's important that's a fair, that's highlighted from the syrian network for human rights that we start talking about. don't close this. people have to flee syria. they were forced to please, sir. yeah. because of the crimes committed by the side, there is human obviously because the side there's team invited all other
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governments and states and different kinds of groups and to actually play their own struggles and cereal. so i think for someone like me and i mean, i mean i think for any, for any person such such a step what should not make any sense. i believe there is no practical reason or uh, or a mentality behind this normalization. and as i said, it does not, it, we all know that it will not bring any peace at any justice and it will not. and the ongoing more, which is mainly happening because the side of the game is as on my side, is committing crimes against its own people. but also because the fact that g, maybe the bumping people claim that the bumping has stopped, which is also not true, but the pension is also stayed on going on daily basis. and we learned also for him that they're in network for the human rights that not to me, which is the highest rate of detentions in syria. and mainly because there's,
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you get to those who are the ported by the needs as far as the, to syria. so that question that we also heard beginning of the show, how safe is it for serial refugee history? we tons of syria. i don't know. what's the last of that very clearly, let me give you some statistics marie help us out with where i refugees all assuming refugees. they are in neighboring countries up to 5000000 of them. next though in telecom 11 am jordan iraq, egypt. what kind of conditions of a living and can we say now? oh, over a decade, often, syria became unstable. how was a fairy, as well, most of the syrian refugees who leaving the neighboring countries leave an extremely difficult situation with the and permanent livelihood. the difficulty to access health care education ladies with up, which we need to use. they are under pressure. a number of them don't have a legal documents and the legal rights to sit to stay in the country where they
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need. and they are under a high pressure to return to syria, and this pressure has increased with the nobody's ation. so it's nothing organization itself which we need to return. but for sure the pressure has reduced . and i would like to add something that though we heard the saw, the prime minister saying that the sooner we can do the wants to we to, into syria, wasn't a recent survey from the u. n. agency for richard. just show is that only one percent of certain researches are thinking of returning to syria in the coming year. one percent. so this is very clear. so korea and, oh, go ahead and while you go, so as long as i can go ahead, let me add something here. the soon regime doesn't want to refuse back iran and syria doesn't want the refugees back. there's no way you're wrong with that. allow the regime to create circumstances for the refugees to go back. i guess that's against the ideology that they rang and forces in. so you have, so let's see the example of an example is the silver very need
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a shape showing that they did what refuse to go have we have seen for the last for the last many years, the run trying to buy out people out of their tons due to their towns to build more fat she, i strong a shot community in the region and the run has being, you know, and many ways of course, by up that prove of that pre approval of the regime. and not only buying people legally, but also legally by, you know, threatening them you either buy and sell us your house. so we kill you. and i've seen how they done that, both in damascus and homes in different areas. so there yvonne doesn't want that because they trying to trans syria into a shop place, like they did actually, and they want to have control over that on the wrong. but you run the rock and leaving on. that's why it's very important for us and still yeah, to protest and some of their to the day when and woman on the street. the same thing with the iraqi people that to do, you know, demanding the freedom from the rain and forces influence and iraq,
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same thing i live in on a so on. i mean help me bring offering as well. so i know school thing to add, go ahead. um yeah, i mean i, i totally agree and i just maybe want to add that. um, obviously, i mean, they're using that i left hundreds of thousands of its own people. is that using the do not, does not tell you, do you want people to return? and the fact that, you know, we have no documentations, all for attorneys, are being detained now last month, by that side, they're using the word, there's a flip on on. i think it says it all it, but also we're talking about the come to you where, you know celia is not only a torture state, but celia is also a seen state. and the economic situation is horrific. and the infrastructure is damaged. we're talking about a company that has just witnessed an earthquake, a company that could not actually, you know, support a so on people when, when there is quick happened. so i think that's, you know, a talking about this paper through into syria is,
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is misleading because i also want to emphasize the, the term i use these, not the return, but, but they're not, they're deforestation because it's also, mary emphasized. but like most of the majority of pre, if you just made it very clear that they do not want to go back to assess here, you really, i want to show our audience. so i'm thinking then please, please jump in here because of what kind of returns that we took out with a tiny sliver of refugees. want to go home. what kind of because we talking about so to, to really pieces and put putting information 11 in some way, shape deportations. assume refugees is against international law. it's also refugees to, to go home. they don't want to go and they don't feel it's safe to. okay. hundreds of refugees to pull tests to syria. can you talk to us? explain very clearly this idea of returning. what are the options of what is a full street ton. when the refugees they, they have no say in it to. well, the examples you show the are examples where close countries also reach ease of
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security forces forced refugees to return to syria, they deported them. and this is exactly as you said, against international law. because according to international law, and any return of an individual who is at risk of suffering, persecution is against international eagle. so that's why these, these read, these countries totally been on a volume that international lo lo, when they return through and reproduce against their will. i'm going to bring in korean, who's a journalist? he is based in lebanon, and he talks about the refugees he spoke to. i won't say would want to be in place before i went out here with series 11 or continue struggling to cope with both 80 cards. and the repercussions of 11 crisis, at the same time, to sentiment has certainly increased over the past year. pressure has mounted on
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them to return and they're getting calls from us for patricians level, formerly a series return to the air league. and you certainly hope this would be a calculus to resolution to the comp time to have her return serious quickly as possible. but talking to me or if it's easier, most of it, let's say that they want a guaranteed their safety as well as investment infrastructure is leaking, lives, and dignified way and make a living. and that is a very important to do less what we want before we go. how well, so i see you nodding your head on any of these i do circumstances in place yet, or is anyone trying to help them be in place for us at the out of lake? no one losing relations. so what are they doing to help syrians feel safe? uh huh. as well. i mean, i think they are doing nothing and i think this, you know, this would be, you know, the plan and the, the,
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the step by step initiative that has been, you know, talked about, does not carry the guarantee any safety does not tell you the address it fails to address the current conditions and scenario and, you know, i mean we can all just talk about, you know, the, the, the kids that go on and, and, and very few jews are 3 without talking about is it what's happening inside the serial ice that have so many in the us, that's how it areas and i know like all of us how much they were struggling and how difficult it is is even for people who do not have any politic and you know, uh, opinions. and here we're not even talking about, you know, the fact that there could there, there should not, there cannot be a solution, or is it justice or the future for the country where hundreds of thousands of people are somewhere between life and beth. and actually we have to consider that these people inside the dungeon. sometimes they have millions of people,
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their family needs, their loved ones, their kids, their communities, who are, who do not even they have to return to celia. and even if they're in celia, they do not even there to talk about their to do they nice and the mind there is freedom. so we're talking about the come tell you that is unfortunately, it has been, i think, the best on fear. and it is still the case to look over over the last 12 years over a 1000000 syrians had been tortured by this. i'm really so let me tell you from my own perspective as someone will been tortured for 3 years. there is no way on earth . there's no way i'm north. you can convince me to go back to the country where the regime that tortured me with a security intelligence services which, which in the are still in power. they have the control to do anything. they intelligent services. and so we have, have full and can you to, they can commit any crime and we can see that and, and, and what size was this story? her dad is still in prison and she doesn't know where he is. if he's alive for that, that's not only her dad's case, that's the case of so many fathers in syria. so many mothers, sisters, brothers,
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family, friends. and so yeah it's, there's no way you can convince these over a 1000000 people who flipped so yeah, were tortured by the switching to were done. but also you have the millions to where you know bomb for so many years. chemical weapons for so many times and, and saw the breakdown of the disease. you have to remember go back to the 1st thing . why did we start our revolution? why did we go up to the suite? and so the daddy because the regime tortured the children and that all, that's why i went out to the suite in my hometown in solidarity with the kids were below 15 years old who's fee and as well pulled out. their skin was, was, was taken out of their body. that's why i went out to the suite. how would you want me? how do you believe that i would return to the same regime to the same slaughterhouse? prison system are still running. these torture chambers are still filled with people, the be of people are being killed. and again, you mentioned, well, one thing or 2 things many times and that's international law and human rights law
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. i know no country, i know no one who respects these anymore. where and so yeah, nobody respects human rights. you see people are dying on a daily basis. people are being tortured. you know, americans not only syrians, you know, americans are being tortured to death and so your lifeline. a choice on it. you have, you know, you have germans for and shell swish wage and you know, italian, all these people being fortunate in certain cells and nobody respects nothing, nothing and their own citizens or the citizens of other countries. there's p or disrespect to the human rights. and you can see that through the you and that you want has failed to provide aid to expand can and with a force and a small organization like this you and emerges that support yesterday, gladly i can share. we broke the siege on a bank camp, delivering an 8 for over a 1000 people, 2000 kids. and so many women and men that'd be safe for so long time. we managed to provide it for the 1st time. how can they not have patients? that's not, you're not in understanding who failed to do that. right. so yeah,
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so oh my, we, we have a really, we the, well, the, it's ask me if he has a really serious problem here. because if normalization is making syrians being pushed home against the will, how do you stop that from happening? you know, we spoke to nadia from human rights watch the answer to the question of how to prevent serene refugees from being forced to believe at time to syria is simple, allows syrian refugees to maintain that protection space. the. 3 refugee status inside syrian refugee has countries and resettlement, sorry, and refugees from tacky lebanon and jordan, which has the highest number of refugees in the world conditions inside syria continued to remain unsafe. there has been no accountability for the crimes against humanity in grave human rights abuses committed by us side and has malicious inside syria. and importantly, there is no way to monitor what happens to syrian refugees when they go back to
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syria. we have no way of knowing actually if someone is arbitrarily arrested and forcibly disappeared. but we do know that we cannot access them once they return to syria. and so i guess so knowing it that i would, he told me about the circumstances of people who are refugees. how is a mileage and how is a coping and then the, the push for them to go back home. and i want you to hear of, to records and you see what kind of 11 and, and the struggles that they are having. and i'm particularly touched by the younger generation who don't know any of a life than their life as the refugees that have a look. and as little as little of a sub i look at the situation is difficult to do. look at my kids and when they came, they were around 2 or 3 years old for a walk. well, 4 years old. the oldest of them was for now he is 15 and his whole future his last and outside on the he had lost all the kids go to school without having breakfast
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of their teacher would sometimes call me and ask them why they didn't bring a sandwich. and i would say it's because i have nothing in the pantry. there is nothing the eat one meal a day. great. how do we get out of this situation? how do we make sure that countries to all supporting syria or supporting the syrians? not necessarily a leadership that is still at all with its own people. that's to put it politely, how do we get out of that situation? so the syrians are not suffering. and that's an incredibly difficult question. i think one key arguments who have in mind is that even if certain researchers are pushed to return to, sorry, i know blanks to return to syria, they would not stay in the country unless the security is guaranteed. and unless there is a political solution and they wouldn't need again, as we have seen and documented in the past, futures refugees just don't stay in syria because it because it's not safe. so even
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if post countries for its full stem to return, it would be just a temporary solution and not a, not a long term solution because we've come back to the country again. guess i'm sure you've all seen and you've been part of these big international gatherings. so how can we help syria? how can we help serial on the post piece? what's the was that one? and just quite recently, just a few days ago, the 7th brussels conference on supporting the future of syria and the region. it was organized by the european union. i want you to hear the frustration of a syrian who's been waiting for help for a long time. let's have a look. let's have a nice not here to convince you that we did their freedom because we are entitled to freedom. i'm here. thank you. i'm here to say how and gary, how 1st rated, how disappointed and how i'm surprised i am that we've been here since this morning
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and we barely heard any conversation about the paintings. we barely heard any conversation about normalization. and most importantly, we barely hear any conversation about the political solution. we've been here for 12 years. what's been, you know, you've been exhausting our throughout months. you've been exhausting our pain. you've been exhausting our stories and for what nothing has changed or more sad to say what i imagine you need. i mean, it is to be honest, you know, it's, it's heartbreaking to watch myself. it's oh, you know, i mean it's, i'm one of the things that i really fear is that, you know, our, our, like ongoing selma and i worry about ongoing things that have been, has been really normalized. you know, we are expected as syrians of some of these, of these any is the survivors as active as we are expected, you know, to, to still,
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you know, done our stories. it provides solutions, give suggestions, and you know, uh, compromise and, and again and again and again, we're invited to countless conferences and meetings and all of that. and unfortunately, you know, i mean, i want, i wish i had the luck show you the say that's, you know, it's or pointless. and i'll, i'll just the default. but i don't, you know, as i said, i have a father in his that's prisons and you know, in a few days, unfortunately my father, which completes a whole decade of enforce disappearance and best you know, that the 30 means that i do not even know if my own father is still a life or not we are the price. the answer to this question and you know, i think, you know, i know as the, and i also said in that conference that, you know, we're always asked for, you know, to provide solutions. and every time i, we don't, we say that mind the mind is the freedom of my father and all other serious.
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ringback appeared i'm told on daily basis, but this is, i'm practicum and i know you had to stick and i need to find a more practical interview to spend the money. and i think this also shows the amount of findings and you know, and some stuff it see, but we have to go to on daily basis. i would need the solution for a stereo for a safe return for a few days and for any future of syria must start with the very least of all the things the end of the ongoing detentions, and the prosecution of own worried criminals. starting with his would that side of himself and i know for myself, but i know for many syrians that we will accept nothing less than the to i'm going to showcase and thoughts that came from youtube community. please pay says to member i question was, is it safe for refugees to return? we've had the onset from sort of the 1st 2 minutes of this discussion for the for a says she would want to return under those circumstances. lucas says, i do not blame 3 and for fighting for
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a better life else way. i'm going to end with a soul which came from will refugee dates the scene for world refugee today between 223. hope away from home. oh my. in a minute. do you have that? as i see, i have so much hope because i saw it myself when i was more glad to present it for 3 years. i thought there were single that i will die under torture, but then i'm here today. i see whole bunch of pursuing and now we're still fighting . i see so much trouble in what i see so much help. every day i wake up and i have my division this built of this story because as well for said or the world is used to or to hear our stories expecting to our story and ultimately thank you for bringing your stories to stream our fat marie as well, hopefully they will have so much more impacts and some of those big international gatherings. and it will make
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a difference and really appreciate you helping us understand. is it safe for syrians to go back home because the officer, like, hey on the street, and thanks for watching, i will see you next time. this is being a lisa thompson production. thanks lisa. the drug dealing 50 to place is beyond the reach of to many people, you know, off comes off. the truck with gorilla was in colombia and to mexico, where the coattails have been responsible for a mess and
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