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hello welcome to the program. i'm told mccrae unemployment poverty and the stagnant economy are a few of the core issues facing zimbabwe. and when i hit to the polls in august, millions have found themselves cool in a wave of high inflation. unable to afford the basics now and several other social issues, including crime to the mix, and you have a recipe for deep seated versus dissatisfaction. the 2 main candidates are expected to be a 2 year old incumbent president emerson, and then we've got a quote from the governing center policy. and his younger rifle opposition made a nelson to mesa from the citizens coalition to change. so will they deliver on the promises that i'm making devices in what challenges will verify? so we'll put that to our guests in just a moment. but this, this report from her and the task of who was outside the high course in herat, right? village the season of officially begun in as in bob and candidates for files, the papers that the different nomination was or across the country was waiting for
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the presidency following here at the high court in the capital. hot, right? the key thing on both of minds would be the economy and the high cost of living price is a basic commodity. the more than doubled in recent weeks is high unemployment. if people office change that for opposition leaders, they say that they can send a body of voting and votes. invitations today and marriage and some of the support has not been systematically targeted by members of the winnings on his hand. parties on if you have denies that engagement. so what's going to happen next? the parties will have the various campaign ready across the country, the one who's on the part to lower interest to lexi manifesto this weekend. and that applies with the same in the coming days. and the coming tomorrow has been both on the 23rd outside when a been there will be a lot of people here. remember what happened in 2018 when the main opposition either nelson janisa came very close to the thing president image of the readings on the policy leave and wanted to see would this be another type of race,
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or would they be an outright? and we talked about playing sites, it's been a bumpy political road to where we are today in 1993. then prime minister problem in the copies forces were accused of killing thousands off the crushing of rebellion in 2002001 who supposes took control of white on farms and hasn't been to the black population and the loyalists which eventually led the economic decline the copy one presidential election in 2009, which the opposition projected as fraudulent. he would then go on to win again in 2013 and november 2017 because he was asked to end replaced by emerson magog way and to immigrate defeated. his rival, nelson to mesa in the 2018 election. well, it's spring and out just now and around ripen. smith's sideway and economist based in zimbabwe, his capital inventory up his peak ahead of the southern africa program at the
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institute. the security studies, which is a south african think tank also and right, and i, reuben, it before on a political analyst and social commentator a welcome to all 3 of you. thank you very much for being on inside story tonight. if i can, please begin with you. how. what does your take on the political site, the political situation, 2 months out from the election? how much trust is there that these elections are going to be fair and free? thank you so much for inviting me to a program. so let me start on the very best of music notes to say that so far the elections did not seem to be free at all. they just remember that the election is nothing is a process. so the, the election that's just, it's towards the, all this stuff the, at the end of the previous election, 2018, and solve for the past 5 years. what we're seeing has not been goods,
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does not bode well for a free way and credit for election. we have seen that the opposition is not to be not allowed to come pay freely most of the others and where they go out to come. patients are probably be and i will box most of the time. they've not been given, transferred to police. we have also seen that's a lex uh commission itself. there's been of late so many quotes of the city limits ational the founders that's i use the constituents from election. there's so much consult this is i don't think that we find exactly the area. that's a pretty dimension, you know, it'll be all positions for most of the summer because teach what does that mean? there's such that we call it, we can't do that, that can get him in. and that's now the opposition. you're less likely to get the seats in the area as well. more areas which i know that the ts from old
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martin was teach would be created. so order, yes, yes, that is the whole process. we can even go on to this place portfolio. meet me. s, as long as i've never been stay covers in the stage console me it to be to if it wasn't done that you all were. yeah. yeah, yeah, of course what, how the president is performing? well, how does that will be applied to the front, a mentor? and yet the opposite to become the state courts or mead. if anything is yet to hear anything, the position that be labeled, so loud as traits. uh. but just as people would cause problems, because see the problem that the face baldwin is proceeding as being the creation of the opposition supposedly working with for an ident stuff. it's listed in time. so you'll find, as we've also seen a lot of political violence,
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especially in the past year or so with the local position. so what does the between up with the head to pause or if i'm duction or position member to be a member, including if i miss every moment, was the allegedly accepted and we'd no one else be comfortable. so that's at the same time we see that, um whenever the opposition decides to to, to, to engage with the public with his membership, most of their men are, they are the police and some of the members that this is and then also major for the jump some kind of that was the biased jamming of the main office. they should see to see what was the cost of it without the trial for the past one. yes, 12 months is really calculated. there's no try. yes. be nice, barely and yeah, what we are expecting there to be
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a 3 credible peaceful election as long as i could say, please don't wait, you know, we can have a level that makes it to be incredible. if i don't get these thing, i'm a bit of putting to putting di, thank you very much. that's. that's a pretty dia, outlook you're putting out there. and then is that how the people in some pathway view these elections as well as a bit pessimistic? well, use the standard you is the total elections above it is really not change was 19 the age. you know the elections are right. um . so is there maybe 2 inches by the institutions or all the election as to the one that in charge of the process? so the, you know, because of the patronage system that we have. so yes, i would agree. yeah. on the, on this as well,
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but obviously any insurance emetic people are really struggling be not looking for any evictions because they're not expecting significant change. so in the lifting, get it done. so we can do a lot of these know major issues. fundamentally transformational fundamental changes, usually in colorado and the social structure. so it really feels like the, the does it just going to be, i guess, progresses normal peers. i want to come to your, i mean, vince just touched on briefly the help i can influence of the military playing in the selections. i mean i've, i've basically pulling the strings behind the scenes here as well. i mean, that's a good question. common and, and, and of course the role of the military in symbolically and politics. and economics is a, an arena where there's much contested uh,
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debates. the, there is clearly a growth since the coo, in 2017 old military interest in terms of personnel being deployed into the economic sector and into areas of the administration and political site to this is not a clear cut issue of men in uniform. a pop at most during the politicians in front of this is a unique is above the inversion of military influence. but there are very clear indicators that the ministries political partisanship, which stayed in places in the cost of articulation very clearly, that partisanship towards the incumbents on a p. s, the, the guarantees and the 20 says he can constitution about a non interference by the military insightful. i'll simply not with the type of that written on, at this juncture. i mean, there isn't a fair share uh, evidence that they're involved in the coup itself. and then of course,
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the fact that the vice president as the former chief of the defense force and senior members of that. but as i said this does not necessarily mean these are the interest of the minute treat per site. but the interest of individuals in the leadership with the military or former senior titles who were in the military and read, employed elsewhere is not all that enriching the military of, uh, enriching individuals associated with the military and associated with their own policy. so you basically talking about corruption, the on to, i mean 10 to is that, is that a big divisive problem? and bob white like this, how big a problem is that ends? and by the way, at this point in time, especially around the election time, yes, it's a, it's a very big problem. what is, has been right to say to the media, to have balls, you know what it's cost, say, independent. let's remember the use of this country. it's 10 to. ready struggle at least the next step, if i see the push,
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the way i like to go past the problem is that we actually don't need you to use the sense for me, these them really to we so this se, into professional professional, nonpartisan military, they remain a line for the political movements of the subscriber. so you'll find that today. it's not a surprise to find a new set for monday open. you saw that you didn't send me the typical monday, openly declared that supports let me really say we're not going to send me any what, what did not participate in the live, but i said, struggle. mm hm. so you also find that there's been some the paper in relation on my paper, some of these evolutions waste, expose that. some of the news is becky pointed out the this obviously, but some individuals within the meter will have some serious,
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deep best if you just the know maybe but you know, and, you know, deep into the economy of this country. so after the cool of 2017, you will find that there was so much speeches. it is, especially from the quarterly funds that any sports will fit change. you'll need to simply change the gum, which might bring a car to be eats with, getting the rolling that economic tools that the stock did in the economy of the country is, is you can say the kentucky. so you'll find that the military find comforts in this stuff. that's cool. the many ethics. so they'll products whatever they have, they are to find someone who's out today most going, how long is that? you just, we don't know what happened just and that's something we don't know. we don't even know how to look up. it was new. why was it? what do you do was wait one. ready why does it mean inside of
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a sudden jeanette around the dentist, the best that they'd be protecting for the past 3 decades? wonderful. that is why what happens? why does it turn again? so we'll see that there are some questions that need to be called into and say, what are the interests of the military, all of these, and what is exactly simple and what is it that looks to them. so your vision, you'll find that that, that, that is, you know, that just kind of follows the books and plus the new terry brook just do that. then class was calling back to point out that the majority that live in the lakes so far that i do not city. i do not be that the kind of government is looking at the reading and the election on the hold on one of the media types, the guarantee that's the case. anything happens i missed for a minute. that would be difficult to. okay, i'm going to talk about the economy for a minute because obviously that is
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a huge issue. possibly the biggest issue facing zimbabwe at this point in time. since can you just as a converse the on the shows did i can you, can you just give us an idea of how dia it is at this point in time and what you think needs to be done to try and fix it, especially when it comes to inflation. yeah. okay. just yeah, you know, i don't think anything can be done in the short to one of the structural issues in your website to maybe to start to use the pen. is the economy way. uh that are based on 6 days of mining purchasing the retail sector and then the 30 percent of the company almost 6 by the time he doesn't really answer. so we didn't do actually because what happens is we sold our last meeting that we may need to find the best policy maybe
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. but just thought it was because the informal saying that, you know, maybe you need the bay on the drum or the day to day basis. so the major in significant challenge in the part of that is not working is about, for example, you increase interest rate. and maybe the bar, but they still minus 50 maybe on the most expensive dcp the and so we really hold our weight either way. the baby with the, you know, we always the, and what happened is that the government issues no money,
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but i'm fine with the was no $1.00 is you need to in the us dollars. so be the economy or the mom, her and my are as long as really we are going people affinity as long as it may be paid by the any price which i'm a product and services. so that's the issue such as the, you know, they did not, they didn't get the job when it comes to actually providing social services such as we have to engage. and basically, what are the, what is the, who you will have to be i'm, i'm so important to me, which is how the people will go outside the country in this guy. because the exclusive opportunities in the test bed,
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the rough uh which, which is 0 issue. but it's not the, the stories that are the issue. it is you said that much more likely to make sure that it actually created people involved and actually had it ready for us. so those are the issues of g is actually one of the people. yeah. and in my to not because we now have a cycle when the bed is old, you know, people are asking for the phone 6 days. i don't even want to make as much problem. everybody product, you know, really the interest. so the waiting for you say listen, this is one of the key and the wrong to run a pay has been cyst outlined. a long list of very,
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very serious issues. and obviously things are going to remain the same, will get even worse. and in the short to mid term, i mean how long before people band together and actually rise up against the government and demand real change? do you think that that is a possibility as well? yes, and an actual bins could add a whole raft of other issues to to, to that list and what this means for the miseries ational of most involved winds at the moment. uh, what we've seen uh for a number of reasons is that some buttons have tended not to protest on the street uh were in they have, they've been met with brutality. and we saw that earlier on in the current government's a 10 year. uh, well, just off to the elections and then again in january of 2019, when my, the munition was used for the 1st time and it's involved with the crowd to deal
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with protest as a i think it goes above me is driven by what i can politics of survival, an opportunity and, and survival is, is a key tenant for many people. they will look for options. well that has meant for many is to leave the country. and of course, we see the politics of, of, of, of the tspra dynamics play in some different parts of the world. i expect if the situation as we see in terms of this kind of directory doesn't a media, right? we'll start to turn the corner. and then we will see more people leavings above we were attempting to do so. and that means more people in south africa, which of course, is a heavily politicized issue at the moment, considering a, the election is coming next year. and so that's a good way for um, the presence of
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a large number of farmers has become a webinar issue in domestic politics here. so yeah, the, the, the full cost is, is not printing at the moment unless we see some serious opportunity for a stabilisation of a switch license ends. and bobby, which really does require dealing with as bins and the set the structural dynamics, but also psychological dynamics. we will not see a turnaround. apologies for located obviously not everyone can leave the zimbabwe thought. i mean, last month and you little was introduced to that lowest criticism of the government dumped the patriotic bill. it contains a close that says wilfully damaging the sovereignty and national interest. and by why is a criminal act today, what is being the reaction from the people to that bill? it's been shot. it's be strong, shocking to savings of calls. we expected this and saw this coming,
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they'd be talking about this, but septic being for a long time now. the to the manual position vector be sense because they're not governmental organizations. that's up to see for be tell you the truth about what is happening in the country. so the major problem on that deal next. wow, do you define mission each of the problem in the country way missional i decided to buy in the oil the parts and becomes a problem. i can come, you know, and i'll just say about with them though, they just set up the machine to not hospitals. and they said, you had said in the world, you know, decided, you know, come to your technician, but they jumped the country well. know if the, if i talked to bill had be elected by the beach high school or what, how many times as they shot me to? they've gotten this it's,
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it's not you have to be to make the diesel. so 1030. 0 pay that the whole lot. yeah, yeah, no i you risk, i mean, but once it is pulled into little are you at risk of not being able to speak out like you like you have been doing over the last 20 minutes will say definitely most definitely a lot of the bubbles would be at least because let's, let's look at it. yeah, i'm talking that it took to the international media media turned on media outlets already. it said it to be perceived as if i'm tennessee the country to the international community. so i'm by, let's possibly biology, if i show to x that we have today. so now a days with a well dressed in one to be or on pizza on social media. so anyone, anything that can be there some way across the world, you know, as well, do we define, you're talking to the international community to convert more,
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maybe pull something when we talk, you're talking to the international community. so they expect or who do not choose all of the technician that he may jump inside. so i mean we national eats or social security. we look at n g o, most none of the mentors in addition to but with the change with buses, that's a base. yeah. for the best. that's a base yet. so i think i'm going to elect a role that which boss is involved with national citizen from communicating what they need to wait for the show agent or what a government. so it would benefit to go to, to, to a, to them. but today, the not added to this be december american, which i believe december. and we just spoke about these issues that are happening in the time i can be up to about $0.50 will gladly buy that's expected talking to it due to the funding, doesn't matter. yeah. i mean outcomes. is there something you just one,
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yes. we are just because of this law and a lot of people now you fire, we have self since i see your invite, someone to participate in the program because i think they are huge. my, my right. i might as much as they end up having a good enough to be you guys above that, they're just using that. we used to see the population. okay. uh, peers. i can send you a chicken to, to jump on it. do you want to respond to that? yeah, i mean i, i agree to certainly excited about 10 dies saying, and i think that there will be a chilling effect from this legislation. if indeed, the president signs it into law, it's sitting there along with the private voluntary organizations amendment act withdrawals. that needs to be signed, which is another law that appears to be comprising civic spies as well. i think it's important to remember the way the rules of employees in zimbabwe in certain instances, is often selected as
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a weaponized one particular purposes. and i think this is the fear that many people have that was it's on likely, uh below would pass constitutional muster. but of course, there are questions about capture of the constitutional court of it. the question is, will it be employed or will it be used as a kind of sort of damocles or the head also society? and i think given the be think that civil society has had of and the opposition over the last 20 years or so. the what has been referred to by some opposition need is the harvest fair continues to read fluids for this kind of practice. okay. we'll just go to a minute or 2 left since i want to finish with you. i mean, is it any available that the selection will end up being disputed and that violence will and if it a belief fall id, think. sorry. i mean, i think we are, we have seen music. yeah. probably next year or so. i don't think,
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i think as much finalize it before but might be the extension of the results and they don't have it in the situation. we, you know, we don't have the dimensions of that in this. yeah. you know, the, because you see uh as long as that level, but i'm on for this everybody is funded regarding getting the economy so hopefully to resolve the issue and be able to get a better time to make it better to meet that day. thank you. so much. thank you. 2 will 3 about us, vince messiah away. 10 day reuben, the fund and p is pico. thank you very much for being on inside story and thank you to you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website l, just here a dot com. and for further discussion goes, well facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can
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