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to properties and threats to people's safety. some of the people who live here say they've co existed peacefully with the monkeys for years and not disturbed by what they consider an inhumane approach to dealing with that. so i'm gonna tell you to a 2nd. it was heartbreaking to watch. it's a sin to kill, i'm not. i told them not to hurt the monkeys, but they wouldn't listen. lawyers say long tails max should not be killed because they are protected by law. the wire department cannot kill any any most in the event that in any mode has become a nuisance or is a disturbance. then the solution is very simple. the wildlife department is supposed to capture the cit, annual, or any most, and relocate them not killed them. this is not the 1st time the wildlife department has been accused of acting illegals. 2 years ago, witnesses say at least 20 dusky leave line goes, were shot dead by wildlife department personnel on grounds they had attacked humans, even though the species is listed as endangered on the international conservation
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the city of n. schwann report, say it was caused by the king gas tank. heavy fighting, resumed, is it on, on wednesday, within minutes of the end of a 3 day truce. the warning signs of a pull to the being housing folks in saudi arabia to agree on a new c's fine for the holiday like to in the months u. s. coast guard is continuing it search for a submersible last in the north atlantic with 5 people in bold. it went missing on sunday, while taking tories down to see the rest of the titanic. the case called says noises of being heard and search for a 2nd straight day, but they've not been able to locate the source. so it's not migraines if it died off the sinking of the sink canary islands to organizations. say that indeed was originally carrying 59 people. rockville authorities say they rescued 20 full while a spanish helicopter recovered one of the 2 parties that were located those the headlines one using hoffman. i hate all knowledge is there. the stream is next here on opposite a, so to stevens. so basically out of the un fits of purpose was like many critics
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. it's important to understand that the lease is committed, like i said, to redeem the main reason behind videos of c n. so you can say on the v, as mentioned, go so into the doesn't mean that syria is the same again for if you used to return back. but as if you, jeez, we have seals concepts that this kind of normalization could lead to the fullest of 10 of us. um, if you use in some countries, especially these companies that have intends to re normalize the relations with us . a comment section on which it is now live as always are invited to our discussion . joining us from belinda. what's the most of the sylvian activist and fellow at refugee international with us from stuck. com? i'll she'll great. director of the cheney affairs with the syrian motors, the task force. i need paris marie force the scene. yes,
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3 advisor within your pin is to choose the piece guess is really good to have you. here. i am going to start with a comment from the style, the for a minister about why president bush or alice side was in vice. he's bought to the hourly. what the i really think it will do for the syrians. that's have a listen that have a look. and then what i got in the existing situation was not able to continue. and there was no way to solve this area in crisis without a dialogue with the syrian government. and our belief is that the position of syria is inside the arab league. now, there are syrian refugees who are willing to return to their country. we should help them to find the way to return. there is a very difficult economic situation in syria all due to the existing situation, which is affecting this area and people. therefore, we are interested in finding practical and realistic solutions. and this will not happen without a partnership with the government and damascus. practical realistic solution.
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oh, ma is that stops civil war in syria. we'll on the journey towards the end of civil war and your country. there is no such thing as a political solution. we need talking about origin that's still kind of gets people on a daily basis today. the regime has bombed in the countryside of a level killing people, enjoying people. so he is not safe, and the regime is the reason that syria is not safe. and as long as the regime is killing people on a daily basis, bonding people detaining people, killing them under torture. that means that machine is not ready for a political solution that the regime made the life political solution just to delay . the solution is celia their machine. would never engage in a composition that demands the release of to detain use because for the regime, the 10 use or the card they used to put pressure on the families on the ceiling in the community. so i did not believe that bringing aside back to the era, blake is
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a step forward to bring peace to syria is definitely not going to happen that way. well, so how did you make sense of this happening? is it to get a cadet more helping to service the sections and that that is more difficult? well, what will be the practical reasons for this happening? um, well, thank you, but let me start by saying that i think that's part of why we get we got here today . is that because it's been a hit of and i think it's for me it's crucial to to, to highlight that what's happened in syria was not a stupid word. people did not flee syria because of the civil war people resulted in 2011 people demanded their basic human rights. and then as a war was waged by this story seen by this dictatorship against civilians. and, and so i think, i mean, it's important that a fear that's highlighted from the syrian network for human rights that we start to boost talking about those goes this people have to fleecy or yeah,
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they were forced to please sir. yeah. because of the crimes committed by the side, there is human obviously because the side there's team invited all other governments and states and different kinds of groups and to actually play their own struggles and cereal. so i think for someone like me and i mean, i mean i think for any, for any person such so such a step, what should not make any sense? i believe there is no practical and he's an or a or a mentality behind this normalization. and as i said, it does not, it, we all know that it will not bring any peace at any justice and it will not. and the ongoing more, which is mainly happening because the fact that he is as on my side, he's committing crimes against its own people. but also because the fact that he may be the phone being people to claim that the bumping has stopped, which is also not true, but the pension is also still ongoing on daily basis. and we learned also for him
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that they're in network for the human rights that knocked me with this, the highest rate of detentions in syria. and mainly because there's, you get to those who are deported by that have been these as far as the to syria. so that question that we also heard beginning of the show, how safe is it for serial refugee history? we tend to serious, i don't know. what's the last of that very clearly, let me give you some statistics marie help us out with where i refugees all assuming refugees. they are in neighboring countries up to 5000000 of them next though in telecom 11, him jordan, iraq, egypt. what kind of conditions of a living and can we say now? oh, over a decade, often, syria became unstable. how was a fairy, as well, most of the syrian refugees who leaving the neighboring countries leave an extremely difficult situation with the and permanent livelihood. the difficulty to access health care, education,
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lady who the opportunity to use. they are under pressure. a number of them don't have a legal documents and the legal rights to sit to stay in the country where they leave . and they are under a high pressure to return to syria, and this pressure has increased with an organization. so it's nothing organization itself which we need to return. but for sure the pressure has reduced. and i would like to add something that though we heard the saw, the prime minister saying that the sooner we could use wants to return to syria. when a recent survey from the u. n. agency for richard just show is that only one for sense officer and richard is are a thinking of returning to syria in the coming year. one percent. so this is very clear. so korea and, oh, go ahead and while you go, so that's like a 2nd. go ahead, let me add something here. the soon regime doesn't want to refuse back iran and syria doesn't want the refugees back. there's no way you run to the allow the regime to create circumstances for the refugees to go back. i guess that's against
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the ideology that they rang and forces in. so you have, so let's see the example of an example is the silver very need a shape showing that they did what refugee is to go have we have seen for the last, for the last many years, the run trying to buy out people out of their tons, due to their towns to build more fat she, i swung the shack community in the region and the run has being, you know, and many ways of course, by up that prove of that pre approval of the regime. and not only buying people legally, but also legally by, you know, threatening them. you either buy and sell us your house. so we kill you. and i've seen how they done that both in the mask is in homes in different areas. so there yvonne doesn't want that because they trying to trans celia into a shop place like they did actually, and they want to have control over that totally wrong. but you run iraq and leaving on. that's why it's very important for us and still yeah,
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to protest and some of their to with a ring and woman on the street. the same thing with that. you write to people that to do, you know, demanding the get freedom from the rent and forces influence and iraq, same thing i live in on a so on. i mean have, let me, let me bring offering as well. so i know school thing to add, go ahead. um yeah, i mean i, i totally agree and i just maybe want to add that. um, obviously, i mean, they're using that i left hundreds of thousands of its own people. is that easy, but do not, does not tell you, do you want people to return? and the fact that, you know, we have no documentations, all for attorneys, are being detained now last month, by the time they're using the word, there's a flip on on. i think it says it all it, but also we're talking about the come to you where, you know celia is not only a torture state, but celia is also a seen state. and the economic situation is horrific. and the infrastructure is damaged. we're talking about a company that has just witnessed an earthquake, a company that could not actually, you know, support x on people when,
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when the earthquake happens. so i think that's, you know, a talking about this paper through into syria is, is misleading because i also want to emphasize the, the term i use, there's not the return but, but they're now, they're deforestation because it's also, mary emphasized. but like most of the majority of pre, if you just made it very clear that they do not want to go back to assess here, you marie, i want to show our audience. so i'm thinking then please, please jump in here because of what kind of returns that we took out, right? tiny sliver of refugees want to go home. what kind of returns we talking about? so a suit to really pieces and flip putting information 11 in some way, shape deportations. assume refugees is against international law. also. refugees to, to go home if they don't want to go and they don't feel it's safe to. okay. hundreds of refugees to pull tests to syria. can you talk to us? explain very clearly this idea of returning. what are the options of what is
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a full street ton when the refuge is they, they have no say in it to. well, the examples you show the are the examples where close countries also reach ease of security forces forced refugees to return to syria. they do both of them. and this is exactly as you said, against international law. because according to international law, and any return of an individual who is at risk of suffering for secure sion is against international ego. so that's why this, these read, these countries totally been on a volume that international lo lo, when they return through and reproduce against their will. i'm going to bring in korean, who's a journalist? he is based in lebanon, and he talks about the references he spoke to. i won't say would want to be in place before i went, how curious series 11 or continue struggling to cope with
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both asian gods and the repercussions of 11 crisis. at the same time, which you sentiment has certainly increased over the past year, pressure has mounted on them to return and they're getting calls from us for patricians level, formerly a series return to the air league. i certainly hope this would be a calculus to resolution to the comp time to have her return to syria as quickly as possible talking to me or if it's easier, most of it, let's say that they won't have an end to the call, the guarantees their safety as well as investment infrastructures, we can live and dignified way and make a living. and that is a very important to do less what we want before we go. how well so i see you nodding your head on any of these. i do circumstances in place yet, or is anyone trying to help them be in place for us at the hour of lake? no one losing relations. so what are they doing to help syrians feel safe?
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uh huh. well, as well, i mean, i think they are doing nothing and i think this, you know, this would be, you know, the plan and the, the, the step by step initiative that has been, you know, talked about does not carry the guarantee any safety does not tell you the address, it fails to address the current conditions and scenario and, you know, i mean, we can all just talk about, you know, the, the, that keep that going and, and, and there, if you choose or 30, we don't talking about is it what's happening inside the scenario ice that have so many in the us, that's how it areas and i know like all of us, how much they were struggling and how difficult it is is even for people who do not have any predict it can, you know, opinions. and here we're not even talking about, you know, the fact that there could there, there should not, there cannot be a solution or is it justice or a future for the country where hundreds of thousands of people are somewhere
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between life and death. and actually we have to consider that these people inside the bench and sometimes they have millions of people there. somebody needs their loved ones, their kids, their communities who are, who do not even bad story 30 here. yeah. and even if they're in celia, they do not even there to talk about their teeth. they, they nice and the mind there is freedom. so we're talking about the come tell you that is unfortunately, it has been, i think, the best on fear. and it is still the case to look over over the last 12 years over a 1000000 syrians have been tortured by this some reason. so let me tell you from my own perspective as someone will be in portraits for 3 years, there is no way on earth. there's no way i'm north. you can convince me to go back to the country where the regime that tortured me with the security intelligence services, which fortunately are still in power. they have the control to do anything, the intelligent services. and so you have, have full and you need to, they can commit any crime and we can see that and, and, and what size was this story?
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her dad is still in prison. she doesn't know where he is. if he's alive for that, that's not the only her dad's case. that's the case of so many fathers in syria. so many mothers, sisters, brothers, family, friends. and so, yeah, it's, there's no way you can convince these over a 1000000 people who flipped so yeah, we're tortured by the switching to we're done. but also you have the millions where, you know, bomb for so many years. chemical weapons for so many times and, and saw the printouts of the disease. you have to remember go back to the 1st thing . why did we start our revolution? why did we go up to the street and sort of that the, because the regime tortured the children and that all. that's why i went out to the suite in my hometown, in solidarity with the kids were below 15 years old. whose thing and as well pulled out their skin was, was, was taken out of their body. that's why i went out to the suite. how would you want me, how do you believe that i would return to the same regime to the same slaughterhouse? prison system are still running. these torture chambers are still filled with
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people. the be of the people are being killed. and again, you mentioned, well, one thing or 2 things many times and that's international law and human rights law . i know no country, i know no one who respects these anymore where and so yeah, nobody respects human rights. you see people are dying on a daily basis. people are being tortured. you know, americans not only syrians, you know, americans are being tortured to death. and so your lifeline a choice on it. you have, you know, you have germans for and shell swish wage and you know, italian, all these people being fortunate in certain cells and nobody respects nothing, nothing and their own citizens or the citizens of other countries. there's p or disrespect to the human rights, and you can see that through the you and that you want has failed to provide aid to band camp and with a force on a small organization like this. you and them are just that support. yesterday, gladly i can share. we broke the siege on a bank of delivering an 8 for over a 1000 people, 2000 chips. and so many women and men that'd be safe for so long time. we managed
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to provide it for the 1st time. how can they not have patients? that's not, you're not in anything. mm. failed to do that. all right, so yeah, so i, we, we have a really, we the, well, the, and ask me if he has a really serious problem here because it's normalization is making syrians being pushed home against the will. how do you stop that from happening? i always spoke to nadia from human rights watch the answer to the question of how to prevent story and refugees from being forcibly or time to syria is simple, allows syrian refugees to maintain that protection space. 3 refugee status inside syrian refugee who's countries um, resettle more sorry and refugees from tacky lebanon. jordan, which has the highest number of refugees in the world. conditions inside syria, continue to remain unsafe. there has been no accountability for crimes against
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humanity and great human rights abuses committed by us thought and has no that's just inside syria. and importantly, there is no way to monitor what happens to syrian refugees when they go back to syria. we have no way of knowing, actually if someone is arbitrary, arrested and forcibly disappeared. but we do know that we cannot access them once they return to syria. and so i guess so knowing it that i would be talking about the circumstances of people who are refugees. how is a managing, how is a coping and then the the push for them to go back home. and i want you to hear of 2 refugees who would come 11 and, and the struggles that they are having. and i'm particularly touched by the younger generation who don't know any of a life than their life as the refugees that have a look. and as little as little of a sub i look at the situation is difficult to do. look at my kids when they came,
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they were around 2 or 3 years old, but it was 4 years old. the oldest of them was for now he is 15 and his whole future is lost. and outside on the he had lost all the kids go to school without having breakfast of their teacher would sometimes call me and ask them why they didn't bring you sandwich. and i would say it's because i have nothing in the pantry. there is nothing the eat one meal a day. great. how do we get out of this situation? how do we make sure that countries who all supporting syria are supporting the syrians? not necessarily a leadership that it is still at all. it's with its own people. that's to put it politely, how do we get out of that situation? so the syrians are not suffering. and that's an incredibly difficult question. i think one key arguments who have in mind is that even if certain researchers are pushed to return to, sorry, i know blanks to return to syria, they would not stay in the country unless the security is guaranteed. and unless
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there is a political solution and they wouldn't need again, as we have seen and documented in past futures research is just don't stay in syria because it because it's not safe. so even if post countries for forced them to return, it would be just a temporary solution and not a, not a long term solution because we've come back to the country again. guess i'm sure you've all seen and you've been part of these big international gatherings. so how can we help syria? how can we help serial on the post piece? what so was that one? and just, quite recently, just a few days ago, the 7th brussels conference on supporting the future of syria and the region. it was organized by the european union. i want you to hear the frustration of a syrian who's been waiting for help for a long time. let's have a look. let's have a nice not here to convince you that we deserve freedom because we are entitled to
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freedom. i'm here. thank you. i'm here to say how and gary, how 1st rated, how disappointed and how i'm surprised i am that we've been here since this morning and we barely hurt any conversation about the paintings. we barely hurt any conversation about normalization. and most importantly, we barely hear that any conversation about the political solution was been here for 12 years. what's been, you know, you've been exhausting our throughout months. you've been exhausting our pain. you've been exhausting our stories and for what nothing has changed. what more is that to say? what am i imagine you need? i mean, it is to be honest, you know, it's, it's heartbreaking to watch myself. it's oh, you know, i mean it's, i'm one of the things that i really fear is that, you know, our, our, like ongoing selma and i worry about ongoing things that have been,
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has been really normalized. you know, we are expected as syrians of some of these, of these any is the survivors as active as we are expected, you know, to, to still, you know, and then our stories. it provides solutions, give suggestions, and you know, uh, compromise and, and again and again and again, we're invited to countless conferences and meetings and all of that. and unfortunately, you know, i mean, i want, i wish i had the luck show you the say that's, you know, it's or pointless. and i'll, i'll just the default. but i don't, you know, as i said, i have a father in his that's prisons and you know, in a few days, unfortunately my father, which complete a whole decade of enforce disappearance and this, you know, that the 30 means that i do not even know if my own father is still a life or not we are the price. the answer to this question and you know, i think, you know, i know as the, and i also said in that conference that, you know, we're always asked for, you know, to provide solutions. and every time i, we don't,
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we say that mind the mind is the freedom of my father and all of our cereals disappeared. i am told on a daily basis, but this is, i'm practicum and i know you had to stick and i need to find a more practical interview to spend the money. and i think this also shows the amount of findings and you know, and some stuff it see, but we have to go tail on daily basis. i would need the solution for a stereo for a safe return for a few days. and for any future off, syria must start with the very least of all the penny, the end of the ongoing detentions, and the prosecution of own worried criminals. starting with his would that side of himself an i know for myself, but i know for many syrians that we will accept nothing less than the. and i'm going to show you some thoughts that came from a youtube community for these pace. as to member i question was, is it safe for refugees to return? we've had the onset from sort of the 1st 2 minutes of this discussion for the faces
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who would want to return under those circumstances. lucas says i do not blame syrians for fighting for a better life elsewhere. i'm going to end with a soul which came from well refugee dates the scene for weld referencing day for 2023. hope away from home. oh ma. in a minute. do you have that? i see i have so much hope because i saw it myself when i was glad to present it for 3 years. i thought there were single that i will die under torture, but then i'm here today. i see whole bunch of so you know, we're still fighting. i see so much hope in what i see so much hope that every day i wake up and i have a division this built of this story because as well for said or the world is used to or to hear our stories expecting to our story and ultimately, thank you for bringing your stories to the stream on wafaa marie as well. hopefully
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they will have so much more impacts and some of those big international gatherings . and it will make a difference and really appreciate you helping us understand. is it safe for syrians to go back home because the officer, like, hey, on the screen. thanks for watching. i will see you next time. this is being elisa thompson production. thanks lisa. the the
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we could see pools of smoke rising all along the horizon in different areas. when we got here, the people that had fled, those villages told us that those were their homes on fire. and if they still have people there, the of these really military pills, 3 palestinian sites as in the right drive and stria totally occupied westbank the hello. so rahman you watching of is there a line headquarters here in the also coming up? dozens are killed in a gas explosion to the restaurants in northern china. you go to it's months, 9 people being detained.
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