or framing them as guerrilla fighters. to make it seem like the army was winning, the conflict once incentivized to the ministry. come on there, now confesses in exchange for amnesty and hope for gift phone lines. the confession on a jersey and bob williams will have this in the general election in august. the economy is in bad shape, millions struggling to survive. so what are the promises being made by the 2 main candidates and will they deliver? this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm told mccrae unemployment poverty and the stagnant economy are

a few of the core issues facing some problems. when they hit to the polls in august, millions have found themselves caught in a wave of high inflation, unable to afford the basics. now and several other social issues, including crime to the mix. and you have a recipe for deep seated folks at the satisfaction. the 2 main candidates are expected to be a 2 year old incumbent president emerson, and then we got a quote from the governing center policy. and his younger mindful opposition made a nelson to mesa from the citizens coalition to change. so will they deliver on the promises that i'm making devices in what challenges will verify? so we'll put that to our guests and just a moment. but this, this report from her and the task of who was outside the high cost and how all right village in season ever facing the, the guy i'm in is involved in candidates for files. the papers that the different nomination going across the country is waiting for the presidency 5 and here at the high quotes in the capital. all right, the key thing on both of miles would be the economy and the high cost of living

a price is a base of commodities and more than doubled in recent weeks is high unemployment. if people office change it for all positions need, as they say, that they can send a body of voting and vote to intimidation of the damage that some of the support has not been systematically targeted by members of the readings on the parties on. if you have denies that engagement, so what's going to happen next? the parties will have the this campaign ready across the country, the one who's on the approximately below interest election manifesto this weekend. and that applies with the same in the coming days. and the coming week to mom has been both on the 23rd from the outside window being that will be a lot of people here. remember what happened in 2018 when the main opposition either nelson's or needs that came very close to see things created an image of the readings on the policy. so if we wanted to see, would this be another type of race, or would it be an outright hardwood task playing such it's been a bumpy political road to where we are today in 1993 then prime minister problem,

regardless forces were accused of killing thousands off the crushing of rebellion in 2002001 who supposes took control of white own funds and handed them to the black population and the loyalists which eventually led to the economic decline. the copy one presidential election in 2009, which the opposition projected as fraudulent. he would then go on to win again in 2013 and november 2017 because he was else to to end replaced by emerson mcguire and to immigrate defeated, his rival nelson to mesa in the 2018 election. the . well, let's bring it in august now and around, right, and some, a sideway and economist basins and bob ways, capital inventory of his peak ahead of the southern africa program at the institute for security studies, which is a south african think tank also in hawaii. right. and i reuben, it before on a political analyst and social commentator. welcome to all 3 of you. thank you very

much for being on inside story tonight. if i can, please begin with you. how. what does your take on the political site, the political situation? 2 months out from the election, how much trust is there that these elections are going to be fair and free? thank you so much for inviting me to a program. so let me start on the very best of music notes to say that's so far, the elections did not seem to be free. if it's all there, just remember that from the lecture there's nothing is a process. so the, the elections that just means it's torn in all this stuff is at the end of the previous lesson, 2018, and solve for the past 5 years. what we've seen, that's not the good stuff, not to go well for a free way and comfortable election. we have seen that the opposition is not to be not allowed to come pace. really. most of that is where they go out. look on page 2

to probably be assigned to box. most of the time they've not been given credit for the police. we have also seen that's a little commission itself. there's been of late so many quotes up. this is the mutation or the founders that's i use the constituents from election. there's so much can solve this is i don't exactly find exactly the area. that's a pretty dimension. you know, it'll be all positions for most of the sum of because each was, is a b matters such that we call we consider that can get him in. and that's now the opposition is less likely to get the seats in the area as well. you know, areas which i know that the ts from old mark mark was the to be created. so already we have seen the whole process. we can even go on to displace portfolio, meet me as,

as long as i've never been stay covers in the stage console me. it doesn't mean to if it wasn't done but to all we have. yeah. yeah, of course. what, how the president is it's performing well? how does that will be a fucking sleep on the mentor events and yet to be picked up by the state court. so mean, if anything is yet to hear anything, the position that be labeled. so loud it straight to put your t s people with cause problems because the, the problem that we have faced in baldwin is proceeding as being the creation of the opposition supposedly working with for an ident such as west at times. so you'll find, as we've also seen, a lot of political 5, especially in the past year or so with the position. so what does the b b to not

with the head, to pause or function, what position member to be a member including if i miss every moment, was the allegedly accepted and we've no one. yes. be comfortable. so that is the same time we see that. um, whenever the opposition decides to to, to, to engage with the public with this membership, most of the men meeting are they that was the police and some of the members that listed. and then also major for the job. some kind of that was the vice chairman of the main office they should see to see what was the cost of it without the trial for the past one, yes, 12 months is really calculated. there's no try. yes, be nice, barely. and yeah, let's, we are expecting there to be a 3 collectible peaceful election. as long as i could say, please don't wait until we can have a level and they seem to be incredible. if i don't get these things and i give this

a putting to putting, di, thank you very much. that's. that's a pretty di, uh, outlook you're putting out there. and then is that how the people in zimbabwe view these elections as well as i bet pessimistic? well, use the standard you is in the process of selection to actually change our elections about what is really the change was 19 the age and you know the elections around. so is it really true, it's inside the institutions or all the election as to the why the charter process? so the you know, because of the patronage system that we haven't yet. so yes, i would agree there. yeah. on the, on this as well. but obviously any insurance on it, many people that are really struggling, we're not looking for any evictions because they're not expecting significant

change. so it's more like uh, lift and get it done. so we can do a lot of these, no major extensions from them into transformation of fundamental changes, usually in colorado and in the social structure. so really feels like this is just going to be, i guess, progresses normal peers. i want to come to your, i mean, vince just touched on briefly the help i can influence of the military playing in the selections. i mean i've, i've basically pulling the strings behind the scenes here as well. i mean, that's a good question. common and, and, and of course the role of the military in symbolic way and politics and economics is a, an arena where there's much contested uh, debates. uh, the, there is clearly a growth since the coo, in 2017 old military interest in terms of personnel being deployed into the

economic sector and into areas of the administration and political site to this is not a clear cut issue of men in uniform. a profit mustering the politicians in front of this is a unique is above the inversion of military influence. but there are very clear indicators that uh, the ministries political partisanship which day in places in the past of articulation very clearly that partisanship towards the incumbents on a p, f. the, the guarantees and the 2013 constitution about a non interference by the military insightful. i'll simply not with the type of the written on at this juncture. i mean, there isn't a clear a well care uh, evidence of they're involved in the cooler itself. and then of course, the fact that the vice president of diploma chief of the defense folsom senior members of that. but as i said this does not necessarily mean these are the

interest of the minute treat per site. but the interest of individuals in the leadership with the military or former senior titles who were in the military and read, employed elsewhere, is not all that enriching the military as about enriching individuals associated with the military and associated with their own policy. so you basically talking about corruption, the on to, i mean 10 to is that a big divisive problem? and bob white like this, how big a problem is that ends and by way, at this point in time, especially around the election time. yes, it's a, it's a very big problem. what is, has been right to say to, for me to try to have balls, you know what it's cost, say independent. let's remember the use of this country. it's 10 to a live, but i said suddenly it's me. but it's, it's struggle, at least uh, yes, that's definitely a fight to the push. the way i like to go past the problem is that we actually don't need you to use the sense for me. these are military, we saw this say into

a professional professional, nonpartisan military. the main line is the political movements of the subscriber. so you'll find that today. it's not a surprise to find a new set for monday open. you saw that this time with me, the typical, my doesn't openly declared that supports let me really say we're not going to send me any what, what did not participate in the lead, but i said, struggle. mm hm. so you also find that there's been some, the paper in relation on my paper, some of these evolutions way expose that some of the is this is becky pointed out, but the, the some see, but some individuals within the meter want to have some serious, deep that's that you just the know maybe that, you know, you know, deep into the economy of the country. so after the cool of 2017,

you will find that the book. so my speed says it is especially from the quarterly funds that 80 ports, once they've changed, you'll need to change the gum, which by 3 cards of each with getting the rolling, that economic tools that they did in the economy of the country is, is you can say the kentucky, so you'll find that the military, fine comforts in this school, the many ethics. so the products have a, they have, they are to fire someone, we call it today most going. how long is that uses? we don't know what happened just and that's something we don't know. we don't even know how to god. it was new. why was it? what do you do was wait one, b i this is why does it meaning satisfy the gen that around? again, it's the mess that be protected for the past 3 decades. wonderful digits. why? what happens? why does it turn again?

so we'll see that they have some questions asked me to call you to and say, what the interest of the military all of these and what is exactly simple and what is it that looks to them. so you vision, you'll find that that, that, that is, you know, that just kind of follows the books and plus the new to text exact. yeah. class was calling big people about the majority that live on the lakes so far that i do not city. i do not be that the kind of government is looking at the reading in the election on the hold on one of the many types of guarantee that's the case. anything happens on these are meant that will be difficult to. okay. i'm going to talk about the economy for a minute because obviously that is a huge issue. possibly the biggest issue facing zimbabwe at this point in time. since can you just as a converse the on the shows that i can you, can you just give us an idea of how dia it is at this point in time and what you

think needs to be done to try and fix it, especially when it comes to inflation yeah. okay. just yeah, you know, i don't think anything can be done in the short to one of the structural issues in your website to maybe to start to be the is the way that are based on 6 days of mining purchasing the retail sector. and then the 30 percent of the almost 6, but highly, haven't really and so, so with the, what is happening is re so many, so financial not only to me, but just thought it was because the informal saying that, you know,

maybe you need the bay on the drum or the day to day basis. so the major operation significant challenge in the part of the warranty, is about, for example, interest rates, and maybe the bar. but they still monitor genetically on the estimates of the most expensive di da. and so we. ringback very cold, our way either way, we have training or when the baby with the car, you know, we always the owner and what happened is that the government issues owe money. best buy the find the was no one is unique in the us thought. so these are the economy or the we, this is the model,

the power and my are as long as really we are going. most people will say this, it may be paid by the, any prior which of the product and services. so that's the issue such as the 0, you know, they did not, they didn't use the structure when it comes to actually providing social services such as the house in education. and basically, what are the, what is the, who you will have to be i'm, i'm so important to me, which is how the people will go outside the country in this guy because they explore the test bed which, which is 0 issue. but it's not the, the stories that are the issue,

it is you said that much more likely to make sure that they actually created people involved and actually i read for us. so those are the issues of g is actually what a lot of people. yeah. and my job because we now have a cycle to win the battle or the, you know, people are asking for the phone 6, the one because my problem is everybody product you know, really the interest. so the waiting for you say listen, this is what it would be in the long run a peers, but it's just outlined a long list of very, very serious issues. and obviously things are going to remain the same, will get even worse. and in the short to mid term, i mean how long before people band together and actually rise up against the

government and demand real change. do you think that that is a possibility as well? yes and, and i'm so bins could add a whole raft of other issues to, to, to that list and what this means for the miseries ational of most involved winds at the moment. uh, what we've seen uh for a number of reasons is that some buttons have tended not to protest on the street when they have to be met with brutality. and we saw that earlier on in the current governments a 10 year. uh, well, just off to the elections and then again in january of 2019, when my, the munition was used for the 1st time and it's involved with the crowd to deal with protest as a, i think, you know, the body is driven by what i couldn't politics of survival, an opportunity and,

and survival is, is a key tenant for many people. they will look for options. well that has meant for many is to leave the country. and of course, we see the politics of, of, of, of the tspra dynamics play in some different parts of the world. i expect if the situation as we see in terms of this kind of project rate doesn't a media right, will start to turn the corner and then we will see more people leavings and, but we were attempting to do so. and that means more people in south africa, which of course, is a heavily politicized issue at the moment, considering the, the election is coming next year. and so that's a good way for um, the presence of a large number of farm is, has become a weaponized issue. in domestic politics here. so yeah, the, the, the full cost is, is not printing at the moment unless we see some serious opportunity for

a stabilization of the such license ends in public. which really does require dealing with as bins and the set the structural dynamics. but also psychological dynamics, we will not see a turnaround. apologies for located obviously, not everyone can leave the zimbabwe thought. i mean, last month and you little was introduced to that lowest criticism of the government dumped the patriotic bill. it contains a close that it says it will sleep damaging the sovereignty and national interest. and by why is a criminal act 10 day, what is being the reaction from the people to that bill? it's been at the shop. it's be strong. shocking to savings of calls. we expected this and saw this coming. they'd be talking about this, but septic bill for a long time. no. the the manual position vector be sense

because they're not governmental organizations. that's up to see for be tell you the work they talk about what is happening, the country. so the major problem on the bill next. wow. do you decide additional each of the, from the, in the come to a missional i decided to buy in the oil becomes a problem. i can come, you know, and i'll just say it's about with them or they just set up the machine to not hospitals. and they said, you had some, the world decided, you know, come to your technician, but they dropped the country. well know if the, if i talked to bill had be elected by now, maybe that would be charged school or what, how much time does they shortly to then go to this it's, it's not you have to be to make the diesel so $1030.00 pay the whole wrong. yeah, yeah, no i you risk, i mean, but once it gets pulled into

a little you at risk of not being able to speak out like you like you have been doing over the last 20 minutes. so side definitely most definitely a lot of the bubbles would be at least because let's, let's look at it. yeah. okay. got it. take to the international media. media turned on media outlets. already. it said it to be perceived as if i'm finishing the country to the international community. so i'm by, let's possibly biology, if i show to x that we have today. and so now a days with the well then went to the or on pizza on social media. so anyone, anything that can be there is some way across the world, the wild we define, you're talking to the technician, okay. good moment. before we talk, you're talking to the international community, so they expect this all being i choose all of the technician that he may jump

inside. so i mean we national interest comes chicky. we look at your most not in the middle. this is bob with him to change with when buses. that's a base. yeah. for the best. that's a base yet. so i can't wait till the next the week that which the boss is involved with national and the citizen from communicating what they need to with we'll see, show agent a, what a government. so the benefit to go to, to, to a, to an investor today did not add to this be december, american amber, which i believe december. and we just spoke about these issues that are happening in that time. okay. be up to use as much as it will. gladly buy that's expected talking to it. did the government? yeah, i mean outcomes. is there something you just one? yes, we are just because this is all and a lot of people now you'll find we have cell sense that she will invite someone to

participate in the program because i think they are huge. my, my right. i might as much as they end up having a good enough to be you guys above. okay, that they're just using that we used to be with the population. okay. peers, i can send you a ching to, to jump on it. do you want to respond to that? yeah, i mean i, i agree to certainly excited about 10 dies saying, and i think that there will be a chilling effect from this legislation. if indeed, the president signs it into law, it's sitting there along with the private voluntary organizations amendment act, which also needs to be signed, which is another law that appears to be comprising civic spice as well. i think it's important to remember the way the rules of employee, it ends and lovely in certain instances is often selected as a weaponized one particular purposes. and i think this is the fear that many people have that was, it's on likely, uh,

the law would pass constitutional muster. but of course, there are questions about capture of the constitutional court. and the question is, will getting the economy so hopefully to resolve the issue and be able to get it back to me later. maybe at best to me and say thank you so much. thank you. 2 will 3 about yes, van's sideway. 10 day reuben, the fun and p is pico. thank you very much for being on inside story and thank you to you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, l to 0, dot com. and for further discussion goes, well facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a inside story for me till mccrae and the entire team here. and uh huh. bye for now, the

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