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the cops, what do they carry indicates is that this is the put in this, in this, in control of the runs in russia. and the crisis that she has a closed uh to russian with the invasion of your queen is only going to deepen our over the next few days, weeks and months and bots the might still be coming out on talk. people will be coming out on top of a significantly weakened and that doesn't have implications for the close of the war in ukraine and how it might come to an issue. you mentioned the international situation. the wagner has mercenaries in several countries. could this have why the implications a lot, some of the, i mean i wrote something about this uh some time ago on uh, the navigating to bull tax block on how widely, uh, vol cannot actually, it has cost. it's not in terms of on, but it's, it's interest both commercial and uh, and military. and the key point to bear in mind too is that this also potentially
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gifts walk and our basements, all woodside, of, uh, marshall. uh, so even if the garden is defeated now that does not necessarily mean and, and, and uh, to the challenge that, uh, wagner poses, uh, to, uh, to washer and russian interests. uh, hold on. and the, the other thing that, um i mentioned already is sort of the uh, different reactions to be, will be seen coming from, from all the key players internationally. so do you have some a to, uh, do you uh, do you paid on one side, but then also obviously trying on the other members of the a single quote uh brakes which also includes uh, obviously in the uh, south africa and or brazil. so depending on how they see uh the future fortune, uh, that's my dental to decide on how much most of pool they might be given to the washing machine at the moment,
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including it's find in the claim on internally it's difficult to gauge may be. but when it comes to the russian populate, which is a huge population, of course, where do you think this sympathies lie? and again, it's really difficult to uh, to gauge that on there, on a boat on of an of long distance. i mean the contacts that i have in washer they generally on not in fable want a pollutant, is doing to say the least. ok. but we also shouldn't done the estimate as such sort of the boston as a freshman and dishonest populations. real talking about a 140000000 people here roughly. uh and uh, very many of them have not really been affected that much by the voiding ukraine and all unlikely to be effective. uh, at least not in the immediate future by phone of i'm just calling the going on about in the european part of a rush and very small
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a part of that box. on the other hand, i mean if you're looking at cities like most of them don't use these on major population of a central. so again, this will make it very difficult to sort of control the message. control is an average interest, the crime, and it has been relatively successful in doing so right now. and that is a real danger here that once again, if in most of the civilians that will suffer the most points on. but if you are watching military and security forces will try to retake or stuff, hold on the from precautions for this stuff on. well, professor at university of virginia in the u. k. thank you for your insights today . thank you. well, that's a recap. the latest developments for you coming out to russia with the head of the vault that must be a group has rebelled against it. most goes it. ministry. leadership fighting has been reported in russia's bar in this region where a few that was on file to being hit by helicopter gunship star explosions reports.
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it's in the city of rust on dawn, but it must be a group says it's taking control of military sites. so i'm going to chief, you have any precautions says his manual head to musket unless the russian defense trees come to him. but with a pretty that his daughter was in the after the teresa, the president is deeply wrong. we are patriots of a homeland. we have been fighting and we have fighting now all over right now. no one is going to turn themselves in on demand of the president, the f s. b or anyone else. because we do not want any more for our country to live in. corruption lies and bureaucracy. when we were fighting in africa, they told us that they need that. and then they just gave it all up because they embezzled all the money that was supposed to help us. when we were asked to fight and ukraine, we came to fight, but they also stole everything, including ammunition, weaponry and funds. because the state officials was saving at old. something like
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what's happening right now when someone is marching on moscow. now they are not saving anything. they using planes and helicopters, the shooting vehicle convoys, west civilians are moving as well. and then they shoot the civilians as they're missing. they shoot wherever this is why we are the patriots. and those who are against us are the ones defending the scumbags. well, but in that boots and gave a tele vice address accusing, wagner is chief of committing treason. the appeal to of all going to fights is to a band and the precaution and said those who don't will face hush punishment. let's again check in with must go to speak with you and there's something about at the end you that well, you have any precautions. reaction. what's it been to the sessions from presentation to yeah, so later on i missed a page and made an appeal on state tv. channels. had dressed the russians,
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the ministry, and law enforcement agencies. and those were pushed into a pos of the rebellion, according to persian. hey colby options of zach. no group of treason. astounding the bond and referred to the civil war officer, the october 2017 revolution. and he promised the traitors, imminent punishment. so mister progression of course reacted to legibly pretends was about as big treason saying that a present was deeply wrong. he refused to surrender, and he said that he and his von and the group were patriots of the country and they will fight to the country. they will continue fighting corruption and 0 per se in the country. according to the progression of their own minister showing grew how to ride in the russian city a real stop on doing it to past and to carry out the operation to destroy the wagner crew. and the full size of russia were used and that's
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a special 3 to incorporation, as well as helicopters to destroy the wagner. and now he goes and is ready to find a box. he says, while the ministry of defense, of course denies all the accusations. so we've been hearing some that we've been basically gathering some reactions from the foreign ministry from the foreign ministry spokeswoman a saying that's a unity within the country is needed. and basically, the same things were said by the former president have been tremendous that if and the federation council a spokeswoman evelyn to much vanco and also is quite interesting. there is a new form of expression of loyalty to religion, a person, and the russian armed forces under officials and the on dad's social networks. they named the region the region and put the was we, uh, when the president showing the support. obviously, i thought from that, so we're hearing reports from some
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a ministry correspondence and they write about some of the pricing between the wagner group and the ministry of defense. and they are one is region as well. so they, they say that's the work of ation that have been supported that as well. but so we cons immediately verify those reports. and the investigative committees who are voucher has launched a criminal case against mr. pre goshen and they f as b has appeals to be a fights his of his vomiting group and asked them to detain progression and un enrolling. they had of a wagner code on his support is to join the ranks of his ministry company and sole time the calles in the country saying that there was not a military coup that was in march of justice so that it was according to mister precaution. and that we understand that amidst all of this, that security has been stepped off across russia to
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well, this collapse actually, um the report was that um that, that can be a possibility. um uh to introduce the state of imagine sit here in mosca. and of course, the security has been stepped top and not just here, but so the number of regions of russia has, of several regions, ask the people to remain at home as long as the assessments. it continues. and so had most good entre terrace measures have been taken and the police now controlled the rows in underground moscow. several find the address was folded in the design region and also a huge traffic drum is not reported on the full don't. most away in the stove and rolling is regions. hundreds of people have the stock the since friday. nice. there also reports about homage vehicles on the roads of those regions as
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well. um as well as some um, its miniature personnel carriers and um vehicles kind of be seen in the streets of most co now as well. and, but generally it's quite, it's pretty calm here in the se, se a security measures have been tightened. but uh, well, most impulses facilities have been taken under protection. probably that, that's why it's quite calm. probably we call we, we don't see a lot of activity at our end here. they're all sort of pulls that the public activities have been cancelled, and things like problems at schools and other venues have been postponed, at least for a week. okay, well that's the situation that from must go, but joining us now from done yet is out of a how somebody, what's the latest you can tell us about what's happening in the last of on don't
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well, the latest development from rest of and on is what we heard about an explosion in the sense of the city close to the military headquarters. now the videos that have been circulating on social media mainly on the ground. i thought we need to confirm these reports and also the reports all about the confrontations, limited confrontations between the rodney group fighters and the ministry. the wagner group, a claim to have hit, a headed cop to administer of defense helicopter was trying to attack its forces. routes from an into restore rod completely blocked the board. us between doing yes and uh restore but also closed. uh, this is uh, one of the, uh, uh, repercussions of this situation. uh, besides, as we reported before,
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we can have a lot of on boardman out and to see whether it's coming or if it's going from here . we don't know, i bought a lot this b, i has been here since midnight just to. ready until this moment, what was uh reported for. busy the ministry of defense is that the green forest is all crab, but possibly using this situation to solve the account, the offensive and buckboard. and this would have a real impact on the front line, especially that we know that the city of buck move took a lot of time for the russians to take control of that. it was the wagner group that took control of it right now with the wagner. outside the front lines outside buckled outside solid on other places. so it's very possible that we are going to, we are going to see a different situation. now this situation right now is kind of change in the state
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to solve for pre goshen from being the president's chaff. eyes you, he used to be described, although the closest all i to the president to the enemy of the states and the whole states right now. the whole establishment right now is kind of keen to and this new to me, all the house and keeping us updated the from don't, yes, thank you. let's get to view now from the front lines about these dramatic developments. charles struck the joins us on the road to a document in east and ukraine. what more could you tell us, charles, as well, we have seen a lot of troop movements this morning. as you say, we're on the roads to box. most folks you heard, are they saying that it's relevant to it because it was the child the ball not had sunk just sitting on a roll and taking control of full russian fantasies around about a month ago. so yeah, we've seen a lot of troop movement. we've seen, had a cult,
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says helicopter, specifically designed to carry infantry and troops to inform the front lines that we've been speaking to. some of the ukrainian soldiers for the excellent reaction. 1 1 thing that they hopes to in his words, exploits the chaos on the russian control side of the front line and hits these areas, hauled a specifically, he was talking about a bus move. we know that since this counter offensive started around about 2 weeks ago, certainly do you currently is reporting that they've made small games to the south of the city where we're already hearing reports that we con, independently verify that the training is may well have taken the control of a small area this morning, but as i say, it's impossible to independently verify. i think what's going to be really interesting though, is it kind of impact that this news coming out of russia is going to have own rushes ability to be able to defend this, a 1000 kilometers the front line,
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whether in fact it's going to have to die but troops away from that front line fits deals with this major issue. so it has the site is going to be very interesting to see those kind of developments. but certainly marolla here amongst the great in full seas, is very high one soldier describing it today as being a massive day for you. great. and. and so i was asking you, losing to that this could have consequences for the front lines that you've been covering for us with several weeks now. how do you engage this? the people didn't, but i think this is going to have huge consequences potentially for the front line . as i was saying there is a, a great sense of the great in between the basically slow and expect. okay, we have some communication difficulties there from charles drop of what we find
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came from that and move on that spring in the sonya diego who's in london for us. so what's the reaction being across? you are p in capitals to these dramatic developments in russia as well. that has been suddenly a code as a chorus that the european nations on the european union is monitoring closely the situation. the european council president and eugene council being the party that brings together the leaders of the $27.00, a european union member countries. a said that it's clearly a russian internal issue, however, that it remains supportive of ukraine and as president ultimate zalinski and, and that support being on wavering as well. interesting, a though we have some comments from the british prime minister wishes to not. who said that he will be discussing the ongoing events, but with allies and also um,
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uh, just all parties in the conference and russia to avoid home to civilians. so we'll be hearing more about that. off to the meeting happens, it probably in the coming hours also. but interestingly again, with, with all the nations, especially those who are bordering am eastern europe or an eastern europe and a close to geographically to russia as well. you start new, for example, have said that again, monitoring the situation closely, but it has not issued anything like a direct threat to the country. it will, however, it is saying like other countries out will void a void, old travel going to russia ritual. at the british defense ministry, a set in a regular intelligence updates that the, the loyalty of the russian security forces. and especially the russian national guard will be key to how the crisis plays out, and that it represents the most significant challenge to the russian state. in
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recent times. it is also said that according to its own intelligence, there is very limited evidence sufficing between wagner and russian security forces . some have likely remain passive, acquiescing to ogden again, not supporting to the british fence ministry as well. frauds, germany, also speaking, how it is politically monitoring the situation fronts of course, giving vocal full approaches support to ukraine as well. i mean, tyler and prime minister has also said that while they are looking at the situation of the events in russia, it is showing that it's a sole twin ukraine is causing instability within russia. so this is going to be something that is going to be able to caused them to forget, of course, that you are in union. countries on wednesday approved a new round of sections, 11th round of sanctions, which specifically targets how the goods a nation spec trade with the you and to prevent goods from the the,
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your opinion of going to nation is that still trade with russia? so a lot to move on not, and of course they will be monitoring that closely in order to gauge exactly how to react to the next stages of this event. ok, updating, assess sonya to you, i guess. thank you. let's get to another perspective from must go now setting a markoff is a format, public spokesman, full priced inputs and form and p is currently a director of the institute of political studies. welcome to the program. so firstly, do you feel that this is a major challenge to russia's milledgeville 40? it's a big shot, but not to my insurance because the main challenge is uh it was 0, which was, where are you sorry, ukrainian, the war from our national for the fuel? the civil war is science, an option depot because we believe that 75 percent, both by ukranian citizens. ah,
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since it's one another change or cause the eaves are kind reports was a huge calculation to live by united states of america, which is going to global the west. you saw russia, it's uh, the 2 major major changes. was these charities as well? and the possibility of all new to the utility it's uh, use uh the benefits program for the russian army. and also i couldn't disagree allies. the situation was us house $100.00. and the i want to confirm was that tax, or even if we don't stop doing now, was in egypt, i sent them on probation. and after pushing a bill to the nation was this morning all the lead through or dyess, or may is legion because all those that supports for the weekend. so
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you mentioned the futon that the chief you have, any precaution has consistently not criticize the russian president. personally, what do you make of that is usually pretty good on the old top, not kind of task. oh, for both of you to put you in and uh, it's so loyal to to like even to put in as inc, especially the world to exist. um, but uh that was the last i came up with them on uh, uh, dumont, want me to go to kind of shoes loyalty by this time i mean, by stepping down by accepting any just use um or was uh uh, present funds. these have not been made to buy any of getting your privileges yet also from the april cuz it made it to the situation i think is a possibility overmatched off uh, the tools that uh, i'm most co, it's uh,
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quite small. bit closer to what i still do most for it is 1000. see 2 and 3 is walk through it and that's uh google for, i mean columns will be produced by uh, some of these one another. and if uh not, uh, if it goes on the bottom there will stay the uh, associates need to be acquired stuff. how difficult was that most for? because that also siege it is uh once uh, meet in the fall and to kind of be done. and who knows that the group is maybe it's, is it best army? is it world tmo 5 or about the 5 g guys or no problems? that's about those. uh so uh, what job now most people will do uh to take uh, sounds like it was. so what the warranty is also is on the soles us no rush on our phones or pro you get it in the bronx. but this will do it is. 4 now difficult conditions that are in place of all kinds of grain. you know, i mean, so uh,
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possibly that you've probably possible stay in the store. most girls have ox, because i think it's just interesting what you say that right and to give it some perspective, is that how do you gauge the strengths of rushes, military compared to the forces at the wagner groups disposal? i assume cause that uh uh, an option. um yeah, uh, quite a strong uh and uh, but sometimes um we should take care in the account some some important save just all these ukuleles for us are brand new. this is uh that are basically across the language have really been a little country it's 01000. yeah. 7 same rule as a general expose the, uh, national soldier. so it's very difficult to say to fly between the national, not me. and the group is these and also what kind of group,
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what action. so just they also number us, is it why i, there's room to control what was that? i said, what that is that if it's worth it, isn't it? i still was always doing it by 2. but this very important facts building quote for a quarter because the executive proposal is building. 7 or national general, so let's just say the running facts was the old needed to that asian or not your current in process. so it's, it's some kind of a civic 9 collection before it was blocks of cetera. so if there's a good bit of something like this, after i had those blog shift, as in uh, supervision could be a bit quickly develop those that 2 digits on i was given what you say, then do you feel this will have any effect on the overall situation on the front
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lines of ukraine, you know, it's not to a u. r e. 4 i e 5 to immediately to solution. uh oh, is this a huge energy issue? awesome. i mean, it will have to take uh, some uh, troops or was it for one day for to be like 8 or something difficult as uh, not action on it. but if i suggest it would be the sole source on negotiation. oh, probably. uh, because of our internet shows us uh, were uh busy is that loyalty to prison. we just would be bigger as, as a lot of those at what closet are usually pretty good. uh oh, so he was not employ a situation was up for on the line. it was your current environment. uh, sufficient that and uh we can see that this event to appear to be a surprising depos a uh we just sold through pretty new mommy and uh,
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are you currently married june, uh, used as the se in case, uh, still yet. uh and i didn't uh, soccer game, 2nd with the old was that so full content friends are those that i thought was a cool. so what's the weight or fuel gradient conference? let me just read to you. what's the russian president vladimir food scene that said earlier, he said to quote those who seek to create chaos will fail. we need to stand for the traits is will be punished, undoubtedly on quite so given that, how do you think this is actually going to play out to i did some, all this clear as i've talked to as a whole. what do you mean? what's your message was miss? i saw it was that uh, it was also a whole little bit, so i'm not sure he bought it. and this isn't going to it as a sole source that i've, i've got a group of soldiers. let me put you on exam your physical actions. so that ends in
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seconds, out of town, you'll come on, dar is a, you're getting a break or i come out of the or russian, i'm ask you to disarm and not to close it or that. and then the russian, and it actually history, we remember very well today and you must do not why accounts this is the uh, serial. what do they look for as a bunch of, if i it was in that and also a lot of care was in the ninety's article. i'm so sorry it's you and yet, and i do and because they're not throwing me to come, the adult. oh my gosh. and the people here mine was that you didn't 00 scales. uh it was a, is their capacity pass through. okay. the gave me sort of came a couple we're going to have to stop that. we've run out of time, but we very much appreciate you being here with us on out of there. thank you. bye bye as well. that's it for me. for now, we'll have more on this in a few moments on the situation. interest of ongoing,
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any precautions fonts is crossed into southern russia from the front lines in ukraine. you can use rushes, defense finish reporting strikes against his troops, but have a lot more and this coming up soon here. now to their state, with the high low they will start in east asia, and the story is still about record breaking heat and will continue to be. so was he, temperatures come down across moving parts of china. that's not the beijing for a number of days. at 40 degrees celsius, the heat pushing off to north eastern areas on sunday, the korean peninsula scene temperatures pick up souls. 32 degrees celsius, a well above normal. but as what the weather comes in from the may, you from the pulse of heavy rain wrenches that put into the nox temperature has
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done some of that west to weather as well creeping across into japan, but toko, holding strong at 30 degrees celsius much were to across southern parts of china, some of those showers getting more widespread across the world as we go into monday and it was a move to south asia. the heavy rain continues to affect the move east of india and the rain also putting into bangladesh that could west and the flood situation in a some of the west, off the weather, affecting most central parts of india. we've got found a storm warnings out, amber, lots for places like a month. you have for dish and we'll see the winter weather start to pick up across the north. west of india, with the arrival of the monsoon range, new delhi, seeing some thunder storms, and some ship was picking up as well for post on on monday that you weather update of the
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