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our 0 dot com, that's the nicest top stories they stay with us. the stream is up next to nothing that we want you to use to. i talked about thanks for watching. i've now the challenges with the hi. i'm sending you. okay, welcome to the stream, leaning to a screen because i want to show you some videos of cuz taking a chunk out of the catalog, the the,
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how do i go? i have several in the, the 3 of us, both riders we lost both brought us now that was an isolated incident in the last year. for instance, that being 200 no consultations between boats and oil cars, but nobody knows quite why. but we have a panel of experts who are going to shed the excellent theories with us today. so to talk about what will things all come from friday hall, but in the us state of washington, dublin y'all's science and research director for the organization wald ok, also known as jobs from rec, give a call back, pull watson, maureen wildlife conservation activist on the founder of the cap to pull watson foundation and in august political opportunity to pull out a professional skip. but i know you're going to have questions. audience watching on youtube comment section is all i have assets looking forward to doing that
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festival dollars and pool an altura. i am going to do a little cheat sheet about oil, cuz i have one more box when i finish that you know about 4, cuz the most people do not know. so let's start with a name the what that comedy known as killer whales. but the actually the largest family of the dolphin, the of the dosing family, the largest member of the adult and family. they can miss a really long time up to 90 years old. i'm that brain. i'm intimidated now. 5 times larger than a, she wasn't beings, brain cells, one more fat that was applies out audience around the world about or cuz they're incredibly, socially bonded with their family members and pull somebody else because they're the, they're the most powerful predator on the, on the planet and yet they've never ever attacked or injured a human being in the wild. so interesting in the well,
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that's really important back and all to so moving you've learned about oil cuz they are very intelligent, smart animals. they work in groups. they can help together isn't with another kind of suspicious in some regions of the words. they have different behaviors in different parts of the words. that's what i know about arcus and that are very friendly with humans. that's for sure. so as these number of confrontations between both and got an old cars have gone up up the general public on maybe even the same properties of pulled the attacks. but audio, we spoke to monica gonzalez and she explained why we shouldn't call them attacks. why we should call them something else. this is what she time we have some population about 35 individuals of even, you know, across in this book relation a only 16 interrupt we both in the,
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in the scene 2 others. and the rest do be nice. it seems 2020 these relation of the very in norcross is started to interact with folks. we always use the word interaction because i thought is just for a few months is when you are doing something trying to hurt or to damage somebody. it is not the case of our so population. so we always use the word interaction to user experience and or create interaction. it was late at night. we have to video. the video is super disturbing. tough fast. what we're about to see. because it looks like the beginning of a horror movie just because it's so dark and you're not sure what's going on. what happened? exactly. it's was scary. that's the 1st minutes. very, very scary. that's the 1st search. i thought it was a wooden. these are ships pilots because was
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a bomb not so strong. ok. and that was a gets tired at the time because it's 4 o'clock in the morning. was my turn to ghostly. and i felt that it's on the boat and they came out. i have my crew on the watch and i asked her, what's happened then? she said, i do this search anything. and i was scared about to, that's really, really, really scared about that. because i was realized, sony, that's was in a narc interaction, you know, and the boat is not mine. i'm delivering to, oh, i get a possible. yeah, i, it's not y'all's like we show the video, but i'm going to stop talking all to so that we can actually see the sound because the sound is quite something that's kind of video. again, with the sound of the
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dolls. what do you think was happening that because there was so many fairies as to why oak as being attracted to boats. i'm more more sense so um yeah, so i, i, i can only imagine how terrifying that must be, especially in the middle of the night when you don't have any visual on what's really happening. but um, from my experience with killer wells and um, from, from what i understand is happening uh in spain and portugal. it, it really, truly seems to me that these wells are just interested in the bottom part of the boat. things that protrude from the boat, the rudder or keel, which sticks out down into the water column. and the video that i saw that was taken of this sailing boat that was in a race really showed these wells, rubbing their head one well,
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rubbing his head against this protruding bed. and um, you know, these are incredibly intelligent tactile animals that interact regularly with things in their environment. and that's what it looks like to me who i was trying to find some videos here in the 19 seventy's going on a ride was an ok. it was kind of accidental, but we don't have the video. can you explain what happened in the school life that experience for us please? well, that was during the 1st green piece campaign to protect wales in the pacific, and i found myself in the straits of beller bella with an oncoming part of the orders. and 3 of us for some strange recent, decided to go into the water in front of the buzzer coming towards us. and uh, why don't you want me, your head is out of the water and you see a pot of work is coming from you, especially back then it was very intimidated. and then they all drove and disappeared. and that's even more intimidating. then suddenly they rose up alongside of us and i was able to grab the the door, so a lot of them and just went along with them for about
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a 100 meters until i was clicked off and it's tail. but what struck me at the time was here is the most powerful plat predator on the planet. you don't go up to a lie and petted the live in those there and getting. but this, this predator allowed me to ride along with it. and that to me, expresses that they, i think they understand what we are, they understand how intelligent we are and how dis dangerous. we are. and i think they want to live in co existence with effect. that's what i believe. and that's why i don't think they've ever attacked people in the, in the world. that's so interesting i, i'm going to bring in list sentiments here. and there is a fairy about why more because of confronting boats. and it's known as the white glove is very, and that's because a cold, white gladys had a number of confrontations with boats and they were feeling that maybe she was upset. she was pregnant. she was maybe looking off to a cough. that is one theory. she is nice talking about the idea of lucas, maybe extracting as angel is this is having none of that at 7 look. these are cause
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of being around these watchers for many, many years. is an adrenalin rush to be on animals. i certainly don't think it's revenge is a very, very powerful on the most. and if you want to do some serious damage, they can. all right, a kick kill us if they want to, but they don't. so all to, uh, what are they doing around boats? with my experience, i learn and they are not attacking, they don't want to damage the boats visa because the rather it's the most sensible parts, it's very weak parts of the boat. it's like a surf boards. some of the others are very weak, it's fall in rather than they are not to attack the physically not it's uh they are defending their hunting area. they are playing with boats because our play with
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boats, it's normal. it's happened before. so i think it's something like this. mm pool. what, what is your fairy as to why or cuz a now gathering around both, and it's happening in spain and portugal, and a number of different places take not just $11.00 plus i'm going to share the you'll, you'll siri with poor because i, i feel because it's slight difference. there we go. helpful. well, i would like to think that they're sending us a message. i would like to think that they're expressing their anger, but i really think it's coming down to play a learn that it's a learning thing. they've learned how to do this and they pass it onto other or cuz and i don't think there's anything there any animosity there. i mean pre meditated re banners. that's a human characteristic. there is no evidence that that exists with that with, with orca. so i think it's really a matter of play. so when you said premeditation, the revenge strategy started to smile was they have focused brain as
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a way bigger than our brains. why would, would things not be a full that would go for that job, right? as well, i think we've, we've touched on it a couple of times in different coming from different perspective, but it's ultimately the same concept that these are incredibly intelligent animals . their brains are highly developed. they have portions of their brains that are bigger than ours. these are parts of their brains that have to do with memory and emotion and language. and yet, um, you know, through all of the things that these animals around the world in different populations have had to deal with. like being for route multiple times, netted up and having, you know, watching their family members being stolen and from, from the family loaded onto a, a, a, a, you know, a truck and driven away never to be seen again, in some cases with the southern resident officiating killer wells that i study up here in washington state,
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these are animals that saw as many as 11 or more family member 1st killed in the process of being removed for the captive industry. these are animals that were killed, slid open, and filled with, with concrete and rocks to try and sink them. these are animals that again are socially bonded for their entire lives. they stay with their mother, both males and females. and yet they've never turned on humans. they've never come after humans in a negative way. and so if any population of color wells was you know, going to attack humans, i would think that it would be the southern residents right here in washington state. i, again, these be, if it has been said already live set it, these wells are kind of capable of, of, you know, taking down several 1000 pounds stellar c lion, if they wanted to harm people they, they, they could. and you know, with these cases in the strait of to realtor, when the boat becomes stick incapacitated as i understand that the whales lose
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interest. and so again, not lends to this whole idea that if the whales are, therefore they're getting something positive out in, or if they're enjoying their experience, but, but not to the point where they're, they're trying to harm harm humans. i'm going to bring in another example of one of these to okay and county encounters. and this one comes from gentlemen's. i think this was just in early to mid june and july was taking part in a your teen rice. and then this is what happened. let's have a look. feel, david is straight, is that it started impressed if you see the address, 1st of all, beautiful animal, but also dangerous moment, 1st of the thing being reactivated only to down to sales and scary movies. oh, as the number of these instances go up, what does this mean for the old population and that safety?
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i hope that we don't take revenge on them for doing this. we have to remember, you can insure a boat, but you can't replace an orca. and as their numbers are being diminished because of the shortage is of food because of pollution and because of many other factors, we have to keep in mind that we could lose these uh, these animals. we could lose them completely. we could always rebuild the boat, but we cannot replace them if they disappear. it's all to go ahead. what do you think it exactly. i agree to 100 percent with mr. full. and they are not tax and they don't want to damage that much. the boat, when they damage the boat, usually they stop. no, it's not a revenge. it's not an attack. maybe the sands in their hunting place because the track the, the place where the attacks and gets where we have lots on us here and a lot of them do. so please join us. it's, i think it does,
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this can be the calls because they will not. if it's a play, they will not break the boat, they will bring you the road their back and we'll not break the road there from that. that's our, that's what i get these. it's not a need the play exactly, because if it was a play they will not break the 2nd rather than tomorrow. i think they are defending their hunting area, you know, and they don't want to damage. ringback they go to the boat gentle, the rather, it's very assessable. if you hold 0 there, they can buy. that's not up. in the, my experience, i had 3 it, 3 interaction. at the same day, i have to interaction for you. okay. what were you doing that you got? lorraine? yes. yes, yes. i was delivering a votes. okay. so my 1st interaction was at 4 30 in the morning front of the scenes . the 10 miles from scenes, and then i stopped the boat at the
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a certain minute to stop the boats in the start observing the office. and then when they stop, after minute, 5 minutes later they stopped. and then i put the reverse heads into seeing this part, and they, they come right behind me and they hit me again. 30 minutes later when i was running away. and that's was what's damaged my rather the shot because it was run, you know, so a name is a north atlantic hello. well research. and she has been watching the growing number of confrontations, the growing interests from the public. and she has some concerns. she's still don't really know why these happened, but the involvement of juvenile, i suggest, playful behavior. we know that killer whales are very intelligent and social creatures. they can transfer your culture and their knowledge of mazda population. we seen that being done many, many times in the past. so as
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a research and my concern lives with how the public views these animals, we know that this population is endangered and they need our help. and the last thing they need is to be seen as villains gels. what is fascinating is the old cars have not become the villains in the store. they've become the euro's people. a meaning them, they've become so much bigger than what is actually happening. what do you make of that, that way of actually understanding what is going on. and it seems to me that people are starting to become aware of just how detrimental our own actions are to the, to the natural world. but it's pretty much everything that's occurring, that's a threatening to this population of color was that we're talking about in, in europe, as well as the, the population of killer wells that occur here in wash state. all of the threats facing these animals that are, that are causing them to, to, uh, you know,
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lose their population decline, decline, and population, and really a tutor on the brink of extinction. all of the threats are essentially our fault. we've created these, these threats, whether it be best, so presence and associated noise. lack of prey removing prey from the marine realm . so limiting the amount of prey that these animals have access to and toxic into in the marine realm. so manmade chemicals that are making their way up to food chain and bio magnifying up the food chain and having impacts on these animals. so those are just 3 of the threats that were causing to the marine roman. and i think that that's what people are starting to really get a sense of in different populations of animals around the world. and uh, in other ways we can't, i can't help that route for them. but i do have a deep concern that people will, um, you know, there is, there is an economic factor here. and for some folks that's more important than the
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natural world. and i, and i really hope that we're, we're, we start to have a conversation about what we can do to minimize these interactions to the point where you know, maybe the fad will, will fade animals will lose interest in this area in, in, in sail boats in rudders and uh, and kind of move on to something that's, that's um, you know, like i really, i really w waiting for the people. and i think i really, i really think that's, that's the cause. yeah. yes. let's take a look at why we shouldn't, but we're sorry we shouldn't forget that. we have killed hundreds and hundreds of them in slaves and put them into captivity for amusement. i mean, it wasn't too long ago. the united states navy off of iceland was machine gunning organs because the fishermen were complaining about them. and so we've come a long way in our understanding of what our cars are, but we should never lose a sight of the fact that if we lose the orc is we lose them forever. and uh,
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as i said before, you can always replace the rudder on a boat, but you, you can't replace your cuz pull out of may is watching right now. and she has base digests and you can tell us if it's, if it's a realistic one, she says, could you put a so now controller on the ok. so they don't go with the boats. all is, is that a reasonable thing to do? is that possible? i think it's possible that you could put a noise is uh, from the boat that might deter that. it's pretty hard to detour an orc or you could use orchestra algebra to, to another whale for perhaps, but, but other, it might be, i think may be played really bread, but punk rap music by do it. i don't know the but uh, you know, or heavy metal or something like that, something that that might do to them. alright, corinne, sellout said simple, acoustic barrier deterrent. that will stop them from attacking boats, but it needs to be known me so and yes, nature is fighting back to thoughts that uh, no need for the tyrant. charles,
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what would be a non leaf with the talent for the old? cuz so they stay away from but as well, one of the things that is used in cases where for example, there might be an oil spill and you're trying to deter marine mammals from an area that it has been used around the world to use something called an oil coming pipe, which is a 3 inch diameter steel pipe. uh, 8 foot long hung from the side of a boat. um and banged on with uh, something like a hammer. um that those have been effective. uh, sadly, you know, those are actually what used in the uh, type g, golf and drives and those are noises they can push the animals away from areas or into areas in the case of the dolphin drive. um, so things like that. um, it's possible to, um, uh, you know, possibly ramp up slowly ramp up so that it,
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they can move out of the way and not be harm. possibly something like sonar. uh that in, in some cases has, has killed whales. uh, you know, caused them to the surface very quickly and, and get the bands in, in the case of b. 12, something like that might, might be good. i'm, you know, i, i think that those, yeah we, i did see one video of a boat where the people were clearly banging on the side of the boat. i do believe it was the, the academy around that was a part of the, the race where they shut their motor down and they started, you know, they stopped moving forward and started banging on the side of the boat. and i think that that ended up uh, possibly helping the situation. okay. just let me, let me just pause for long distance calls are not going to be lethal. all right. okay, so let me just pulls from my because i wanna bring a lot of man like to be um has experienced ok confrontations. and he wasn't sure what wonderful, nice to follow all to have any sense what he says. and then you can maybe just wrap
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us up with what you would do now. now that you've had 3 experiences of confrontations, he's brought to me a festival on the internet. very confusing to be honest, even from us, each organizations. um, even today we had the information from one official saying, turned on the end and it will detract or close and other said, turned off the engine. uh, not the thug there, then some. and then some official say, uh or not a few shows uh, stay closer to shipping plains where its be here and deeper and other say stay where its seller. so advice is very confusing and most helpful at all to just wait, wait what, what, what exactly. uh, we go shallow, regal, shallow, and uh what he said about the chip lines. is i the jibber outside apartment 6 times . uh, i just start to happen. okay. we sail boats with family on boards and got some runs
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. so i am james, this job. i did this, this course wrote several times with safety and no, i can do this job. it can cross the through the red zone, not through the red zone, but take those shadow. i heard it the closed, i show that goes to the people who say, look, it's beautiful. does it say any, you want to go and you wants to see the place is also. but some say, notice some boats on us, some boats on or sometimes they are not wants to go in the middle. no, come on the dry. we are having a problem with having a solution, a temporarily solution. all right, po, i the one. so i've got 10 seconds of that. what are you gonna say? not 2 seconds. bring us on to the sorry, the best of turks is to stop over fishing. the ocean stop starving these or cuz they need a food supply. we're taking it away from them. and that's going to cause serious
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problems. we've got to stop diminishing fish populations in the ocean bank the she thank you auto. thank you charles. i can view as but the contributions as well. i'll see you next time. take care of it. the beginning,
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