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hello and welcome to the program for the back to boat along simmering anger against police brutality in the suburbs of france has turned into a nation wide unrest on tuesday, 17 year old and i and was shot and killed by an officer a non to a working class town, just outside paris. why school say the legal encounter is just one of the many instances of stomach racism targeting poor and ethnically diverse communities. we have a lot to get to with our guest in just a moment, but for us this report from nor come to paris, silvo, this non town this home for nothing night. i'm just trying to fire the latest police can leave a teenager portion to focus on easy relations between police and people from these working costs neighborhoods during the day,

tribute put in for 17 year old. no, he was shot dead on this road on to say the police of the time claimed it was self defense. with this video seemed to contradict that statement. now. the call was stopped. a police officer pointed a gun at the driver. look, becky issued after the public prosecutor considers that the legal conditions for using the weapon have not been mess. yes. clearly the emotion that comes with the death of a young man calls the contemplation and com. and it's what the government has constantly called for. this is the 3rd state to police, shooting of the traffic stop in from the see if there were reco 13, the year before they made the united nations human rights council accuse problems increase please find during pension reads in protest and several countries

criticize the nation. the you and council, for really just in total in slicing attacks against migrants and racial profiling. but inside the power suburbs, there's a long and troubled history with police incidents often triggering a final reaction. in february 2017, a young black man who tla haka was left permanently disabled after with violence police arrest. in july 2016, i did not try or it died in police custody of to he resisted an id check in 2005, 2 teenagers from a high rise of states were electrocuted when they hit from police, leading to protest the went on for 3 weeks and now that i'm in the month of justice has returned to the streets from laura home to inside story out to 0. let spring, you know,

i guess for today's inside story in paris. yes. and watch the head of the committee for justice and liberties of trans national human rights organization in london. greenville, mary, professor of politics at queen mary university of london. and also in paris is active, my director of the center for associate logical research on law and penal institutions . and welcome to you all. thank you so much for joining us on inside story. yes, there want to let me start with you in paris with seeing the protests over the killing of my else fred beyond the suburb of non taff. why is there so much anger in friends today? what i seem to question is, the answer is already in the question, why is it that an event a in a bare is how sparked and out a burst of pink or, and raise through all with a front. so we have to, to, to put that in perspective and look at the past 20 years since the 2005, the uprising that took place out to the depth office here in gwinnett,

the note on the southern office there is no, we have to ask ourselves why all these people are expressing themselves in such a manner where the story is also the fact that to own all the ways of expressing or say when all black arrow been from the year or being shut down. and because even more sparked outrage is of the video, that's b r o c and why the police officer is pointing. he's the, he's good at this a driver and shooting him a point blanket in the hard to know the, the video is all right. this, the even the, the media start for theater, your content and, you know, the quickest size of the use of offer, you know, i used to offer the, for the weapon by the policeman, but also a monday really my cold. but this going to be separated. i'll do the be under we see right now i cannot be separated from the genuine ink or what the situation for these people in the body or the not okay, pushing it to use access to education, work, etc. okay, we'll get into the, the issues a bit more deeper in just

a minute. yeah, sir, i wanted to ask you, you talked about the video and what's most startling in this incident is that the police appear to have lied about the circumstances of the killing. and last year we know that about 13 people were reportedly killed by offices under similar circumstances. but unlike in this situation, in most of the cases they was no video. so is excessive used by police, worse than what we actually know. definitely the, uh, is the actual quote to ship us. yeah. well, she from the national research side to declare that as the national center preferred, typically search in front the front for a police either did the police on continental europe or, and you are the 2, is that the aside from the horse get a couple of days ago you know what they, as we saw it in the video, another black men was scared. he was 19 years old driving his car, going to work and he was shut there by the police. but unfortunately that was the video. and what is what this video or so i know it's the fact that before which was

happening, the government was clicked to react to 1st defend the police man. and the media were honest, reading the fucking points of the police. so this is why, again, we can not the choice of people physically versus when they 1st come from the government. okay, is that into my? yeah, let me bring you into the conversation. you've researched police issues in france extensively. just looking at the specific incident 1st, the police officer responsible for the shooting has been charged with the voluntary man's daughter. what do you think will happen to him based on past experiences? is he likely to be convicted? it's getting very difficult to say the, the reputation of the reaction of the positive q to and of the party sector wells, east unusual, or it was mentioned by the, the on yeah. as pico in about. so we feel about that. we're kind of to email the reaction by drug charlotte. so it was on the one hand and put it to go back to us

on the other because they, they see a wicker duction of the re upsets 2005. so the deliver of a reaction was quite high and these a dollar, but i wouldn't have that. i think it was paid. it is based on the one hand does pay . we did tell you what rated uh we nation between to use uh from uh, i think by no we keys in pull neighborhoods and the police on the one hand as to go to the question, is the use of deadly falls in a traffic stops on the other hand, which is a kind of a new ring question in front. right. you talk about deteriorating relations between the used in these disaffected communities and the police just looking at the way the situation is evolving in the last few days in fine. see, think, jack, we're looking at a repeat of 2005 and the incidents of tissue. so why then? yeah, i'm going to,

these are pointing to the table to turn to the discussion. this particular question . that's the most comes out of those. well, surprised by the importance of being pen city and the peg, that's even in the center upfront you, you may have had some neighborhoods with the protest. uh, some young people who need protests. uh, so kind of for somebody that we do so that we can kind of close out the wall of anger and on this young people at the handling of the situation is different from the police. on the one hand, i'm from pretty particular tools on the other hand, so you know, you never know if he's to we, he's going to repeat the talk. okay. i'll ask yes or the same question in a bit. yeah. so, but i want to bring in a rainbow, mary, to the conversation 1st. rainbow a difficult situation for the french government and french president the money in my calling to handle. no,

no doubt. he was quick to react. can the government contain this crisis? you think? hey guys, have to find a way to do it. it is very difficult. and one of the reasons why it so difficult is because the responsive of the political policies on whom my quote is depending for alliance. and his compliment is so completely opposed. one crucial thing to remember is that macklin does not have a parliamentary majority, so he needs to work with other policies. but the policies of the left have started unequivocally with the an agent who has shopped, the policies of the right, who started on the politically with the police. so that the div, smart home quote between a wrong kind of hot place. and at the same time, he needs to find a way to dispel this and unhappiness to help the people who feel a brief by distributing to find resolution without resorting to street protests. not these because the street process needs to be contained by the same police that people are protesting against. and so he can't afford to alienate the police if

he's also asking them to try and stay on top of any pricing situations. okay, we're going to talk about some of the laws that govern the police in just a moment. but yeah, so i wanted to ask you about the current situation in the same question that i put to shock. are we looking in your view at a similar a repeat of history and events of 2005 in case she's to bar? what we cannot unity so quickly to predict the future that would be in a far better place than most comfortable. but the situation right now use very similar. the only issue is the only difference being that we are the how the president of 2005 and the people took place in the 2005 surprising austin on the place today. so we have to really watch the events with a bit of caution, even though to be honest and of the m the or it was so quick to spray just throughout the national territory. i didn't expect the offering that would be enough already know barry's and he's around the suburban but not to go all the way

to at least to know to the people who who was mentioned to you or and even to do is exactly right now as it was said earlier, their response from the money really my call would be dictated by the hard to right to end the far right. and in the already saw in mind, even back home. so you need a talk, i guess the police is on that talk. i guess a republic just to make it a simpler, he did not sit in the talk against civilians are a citizens, he's an attack, i guess the republic and this again shows the after his initial reaction of conducting or criticizing the use of deadly force. if he's already feeling too large of keeping the police, the police, but the 11 piece of information to be is quite important in the case. so if anybody, what about quotes? we have to remember in 2020, he's only minutes target frontier your have to be set to under pressure off the pressure coming from the majority unions for closer to the far right on your studies. for example, if you still have custody of who have protected the police,

why they weren't breaking discords and bucks, hold the yellow best to move. not only said there could potentially be an issue of racism, we seem to put a use and that seem to his face to show you how power for these humans are. so we have to see how my quote we got. so the one to handle to keep end user. i look forward to you because i guess it doesn't have i, my protein fundament. right? also, almost repression would be a problem. different for there. i know a teacher that just a tuition towards more of items for our international audience, the fair and the others. let's take a closer look at the french laws that some rights groups have criticized for giving police more power is to use excessive force. a 2017 measure launch for police to use the fi arms in 5 scenarios. this includes against drive us. we'd know an order to stop. and if they pose a risk to life or safety in 2020, the government dropped a security bill that would have prevented people from filming the police. the draft bill had prompted protest across the country in 2021. the french parliament passed

the security bill that would extend police powers. this includes using drones to monitor as citizens and tougher sentences for assaulting offices rainbow in london . critics have said the practices and attitudes of the french police is encouraged from the top is the case. what is the message from the top? not just under monday, michael, but under previous governments, the message and it took to generally been one to support the police and to reinforce the powers. and it had to be borne in mind that the police surprised some significant challenges, especially in the previous decade. restaurants was subjected to a series of terrorist attacks. and there was a fear that the police didn't have strong enough power to contain them. so some of those powers were reinforced, and the police also felt vulnerable, and then they've been asked to do with some quite different situations of the past few years, including the younger best protests including policing, the target punter,

making the lock downs that came with that. and so the police are continuously cooling for protection, that unions wants the government to start them. but at the same time, there's a growing sense that the police have problems with racism. we've accepted police force and privacy, which has caused a significant backlash against the place. and so the police are also looking to the government to stand by them against that backlash, but that's becoming increasing the politically sensitive. okay, is that police union says said that such incidents like the one we see in the non to one off isolated incidents is the case of this police officer. just one bad apple, or is there a real problem of impunity within francis police force? it's always and then with the k question, because we need to be new and that you cannot say that what hopkins a baby so is something it seems to me cause structural or within the punched

bodies. on the other hand, you couldn't say that. so kind of isolated incidents, it is popped up to much more genuine. 8 totes, we've been punched police in. what is it? is it a lack of training that it has to do with the lack of the location? i'm planning on a chart painting. it tests to do, we use the profession or coach of the police, which is mainly based on the use of false. i don't say that the use of the full sense, but you're done is a common place in the punch party at the right click city of the french pretty. so if he sells the kind of policies in council training in town stuff, management, do not take enough into account the, the relation on how you mention the where do you still be so interacting with the

purpose of being able to this kind of being able to talk with the p, probably new piece for nano. so this is the 1st point. second one has to do with the controller body shop. he says the french police will be so they say that you all the most control techniques have him in the front and ministration bits and to some extent, basic tool. but on the other hand, when you are pretty simply so you have a low talk, a ton of me at when accomplishing your data task. and these are tenants does require you something for handing funds. so i would say about that we've kind of been coming out of control by the national expect to wait till the end of the national police that, that we've had a lack of ex town or control or by the state agencies at the right. you can do this on literally the, from the default, so different on a, to walk on in french. and that should play you play the role in the way in the way

the daily behavior health all controlled by, uh, okay, well known it, independent agencies. okay. yes sir, and your thoughts to what uh is that just said he said this is not necessarily systemic. do you agree with that so well? sure. sure. to quotes are some figures that we have to remember of that in the a since 2020 the a number of people. a kid by the police was a more than double to. yes. the police is also, you know, supervisors, but supervised by former police officers. the gps is composed mostly or from a cops. now supervising cups with not, you know, proration, but i'm going to go to the send that back in 2014. and we're going to call the caption, do not raise a question to the minister of interior about the mental and physical strickland sickness. off the police in 2015, 2020. 20. we went from a rec, quoting one out of a 50 candidates, and we did one in 2020 and became one out of 5 up the score

a to be x. so it's a problem of recruitment all felicia? yes. the problem, the problem when it comes with lives with recruitment, there is no, nothing, nothing. you're not going to say. um, no, i'm going to do disqualification off on 50 individuals. we went from take one out to 50 to one out of 5 or so. and on top of it, the discount was lower. the 8 out of 20 is good enough to be accepted and to make things even worse, the training has been reduced. it went for 12 months to 8 months, to quote another police instructor. and since complaints are but individuals who are intellectually do you quote unquote and physically unfit to join the police. but what is the parts of the, the admission exam? we cannot get rid of them, you might have to wait to the lawyer off, knuckle for accountability, and if terminating racism of the police aesthetic in about

a few years ago. so that's 52 percent of, of the law enforcement to a body voted in favor of you might even my to and i'm going to be even more provocative of the national police has been over today. the centralized police was born in 1941 on the issue with jim, and we shouldn't forget the price the are the risk assist we of the police with the jews and the error. so it's not about random events repeating themselves. it's about it's not even about the rock and offers is about a rotten tree that needs to be reformed. ok, rainbow, your thoughts about these, these on justifies shootings in friends and the bone use these working class neighborhood? certainly. our symptom, as yeah, sarah said, and you've alluded to yourself of a deeper and why the problems in front of discrimination, racism as well. what's happened to the idea of f t p fi county has it failed into it's been a bit of a mess. and the,

i think of that for me to leave it to give you 2 for tony say of it, it's kind of a, went in the, you know, french peak every for but that someone more equal than others. and so for once has a known history of virtual discrimination and disadvantage, some of which is tried to sweep part of the carpet by not measuring it. 78 does collect official data on race for example. but it's a bonner, in fact the people from ethnic minority backgrounds find it hard to find employment that they there is a few patients dictation, but they are much great to the victims of the police that they often relegated seth neighborhoods. and so whilst from the struggles to acknowledge its difficulties with race, they are very present and surface would appear just because they're saying i'm decision to one of the incident, i could read of a series of,

of names of people who have been killed either june and police custody or was being arrested by the police. did you give just one example which was very high profile in 2016? i don't know if i don't trust in police custody a young man. yeah. and. and so caused widespread protests around the country. not just in the neighborhood where it happened, but again we still processing power, so we so persisted to lose. and it just seems like history repeating itself. and so i'm sorry to interrupt you. i just wanted because we have a just a few minutes left on the show. i just want to talk about now the solutions. what can be done to address all these issues we've raised and the conversation is jack, let me come to you 1st. when it comes to police brutality, how does the government deal with it? because the un human rights council has criticized funds for increase police finance. the european court of human rights has also condemned france on 5 separate occasions for leisure abuses committed by the police. what needs to be done in your

view to address this issue? what needs to change our district and the question, because you have different levels to levels to that you should use see me seeing you've taken. yes it does. there is an issue of control external control of the supposed to say audio. it should be waiting for, but you cannot re from the police against pretty soapy sales. and this is tony issue. you have to wean those 2 weeks on the details of the pretty soap you so, so you up to train pretty soap sales. and in any short planning and, and vocational training to this candidate, which is the, the use of deadly false is something technical, but it's also something relational. is that how you use your gun in we situations? and these question is a question of how you all have had

a system at brain as a police officer in the shop recruitment to how you chose the good ones, how the relation, our company tends keel and valued within the french bodies institution. that was also a question, and i think it's crucial the question of the openness to the uh, to see the society that's a good produce is a pretty, which is we didn't differential society was how you go to interact with the firm cities incent. wow, the united be tends upfront, not only citizens to get into a non citizens. so that was a, we only show of how the pretty is able to listen to society. we've always complexities in equate peace and they should be a big we trimmed under the of defense bodies in 50 percent. okay. yes sir. and your thoughts? how should the french government address this issue and how old?

so does it address the concerns of these disaffected communities? in the pony is why we can of the 2 coins are for a 2 face of the same calling for the product. to answer this 1st we have to, we do find the root of the police. is it they are to protect the regime or the right place or to protect and serve the population sick? and we have to raise the bar and not lower rate in terms of our recruiting individuals who apply it to become a police, a service men and women. and of course, the i said before me a better code full of the police, the gps, it was supervisors. the parties to be open to sociologists, community organizers or lawyers, and people who can have a dissenting voice. and 2 weeks i'm going to expose of what the or the police is doing on the scene. and of course, on top of the data, we need to have a more independent traditional system or the prosecutor is no longer no mean it is by the executive branch of power,

but from within the justice system. so when the police is roger before the court of law firm and uses through the chance of a founding, the police accountable. and last but not least, we need to stop with the idea that the police, he's there to create a brick bones and then still arise people in the communities. it's not the reason it's going to do stuff and it's not a coincidence that is he had done that or died in 2005 from the, from the police right, despite having done no wrong. okay. rainbow, let me come to you now. so what needs to happen for friends to restore its image of a torch bear of liberty, equality and human rights issues? we need courage and leadership um, from the very house of government. um, i mean, it needs to be as a preventative break charges upfront spaces is the grand strength over the past 20 years of the phone rights have start racial racial tensions within products. and at the moment because of its lack of upon mentoring majority,

the government's is taking to form an alliance with the policies of the rights who in turn to try to win back their electric from the far right. so politically, it's very sensitive, the government needs to have the courage to overcome this desire to win back versus in the far right. and instead take moral stands and say enough is enough, but we need to do better. thank you very much to all 3 of you for a great discussion. yes. and the warranty is active. my yeah. rainbow, mary, thank you very much for joining us on inside story and thank you to for watching. you can always watches program again any time by visiting our website at all, which is 0 dot com for further discussion. good. why facebook page? that's facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. of course you can join the conversation on twitter handle is that a j in size story from the feedback table in the whole team here in doha. thanks for watching. bye. for now, the

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