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is not even true um, because that statement is inherently by it, is you have to remember that these a eyes are what i like to call p. i's or pseudo intelligence are made from the data sets that are inherently biased. everything humans may end up end up being biased. so i personally believe that she has somewhat of a point, but the key thing is that a human work directly with a robot. so we can benefit off of, you know, somewhat non biased data, get objective bags, but have some objective views from the human to help make a better decision. the just a quick look at the main stories. now, the us is confirmed, but it will send widely bind cost to munitions to ukraine. on friday, the inspector general's office said it was against the continued use of cost to weapons john,
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these governments and they also oppose is sending them to ukraine. our white house correspondent, kimberly how kit has moved from washington. the us president had to sign a waiver because using this and, and proving this package of cluster munitions actually is a violation of u. s. law. this is something that has not been used by the united states in terms of approval since the iraq war. it was heavily criticized when george w bush used them. and as a result, they've been phased out. so this is a real turn around in terms of us policy. but the feeling of between the novel is pentagon, but the white house, even on capitol hill, is the conventional weapons are a short supply in terms of supply ukraine. the us president said that the united states will back ukraine, and the problem is, is that the counter offensive has not been as the us would hope it has been lagging . you're creating present roles. you may, as lensky is in tech yielding talks at the present relative type of on,
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on developments and ukraine. soleski is hoping to one day see you crane as and they to member. and in the short time, at least, maintain the black sea grain deal, which has been pro, could by and correct hundreds of african languages including children have been stranded in the desert office and using officials expelled them from the country. the only libyan folder, the migraines say that often sneezing officials pushed them out. libya and both the gaza, refusing to let them in. fighting between 2 dogs, warring factions was intensified of the night and hard to gun fired multiple explosions or for throw the night in the capital army come on to say, permitted trees from the rapids support forces attacked that combined headquarters in the city of undermine those of headlines this hour when you see a bit later on news hours coming up in about 90 minutes time tuesday, june for that as well. the stream is the pro come coming up next. i'll see you later. i where is the western agenda heading?
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that's the g 7 really even matter anymore. who's more electable, joe biden, or donald trump, or jeremy, listen in the media undermining our society. can americans cross their supreme court is not corrupt. the critic who look us politics, the bottom line, the high us any. okay, thanks for watching the stream. there is a whole field of se eula and biotech research that is dedicated to i've a slowing all stuff in aging. what would you like free? like if we didn't age, is that even at the cool? well, we have a panel of experts, so that kind of with scientists who are going to be here to answer your questions and your concerns. you can put your comments right here in the comment section. and i'm from the agent moines. stuff is getting ready for the year. i a 277. that is to
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get like october, november, december, free for the month i do age. the progress is to reimburse the agent so that i can be to stay in biological age. we all know how much money that are make account. we know how much we way we know how many social media follow early on . we don't know our speed of aging, but how fast will you be in a solvent? if you had an aging point, like your bank account would, you spend a certain way is if we have aging points, we have an a bank account, then society could shift instead of us saying, and we're going to be a martyr for wealth or status or whatever would it change in that balance a little more be about human. so maybe coming to fast about weeks becomes a b c. acknowledge the gimme a call i that was brian johnson. he has, he's 45 years old, but he really wants to achieve of my logical body of 18 years old. is it possible to stop aging or with us aging? joining us to discuss this, we have mingo, as a physician,
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scientists and directors, the aging center university of california, los angeles, with us from bell, great sab, yet peter fetish as founder and chief science officer at jerad. i'm joining us from berlin. andrew, still scientists right to an oath as a just the new science of getting older without getting old. is that possible? i'm good. always chasing somebody that actually is it possible with phone we live a certain amount of time with age of with fortunate enough to live long enough and then we die. how can you disrupt? i think the most important message i want people to come away with tonight is this isn't science fiction that can sound like science fiction. and i think the best way to demonstrate that as well, let's think about what aging is best. if you're a human being your risk of death doubles about every 8 years. this is because of the increasing risk of diseases like cancer and heart disease and stroke, leaving killers in the modern world. as that means that maybe the age of 37 i've
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got, i won a 1000 chance of dying this year. i'm not quite like those ons, but unfortunately carry on doubling and definitely and doubling a number. it can eventually get very big very quickly. so if i'm lucky enough to live into my ninety's, i'm lucky enough that we haven't made any breakthroughs, nation biology, in the intervening time, my risk of death and one of those years will be one in 6 months of life and death that the roll, the dice on so it is to, to stick all definition of agent is doubling of mortality, right? every 8 years. that's one way of understanding the aging process. but if we look around the animal kingdom there on the most, he's risk of death. it doesn't change them out. a whole day all around almost like tortoises, certain kinds of paste certain kinds of liquids like solomon this, these are capable of living, but they apparently don't get old. they can literally get older without getting old . and so i think there's no reason biologically, according to those of physics, where we couldn't apply the same types to watch to we age name. that's certain questions that come up in this conversation, but we don't use the all scottsdale, so we just accepted. what do we age?
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what is the scientific reason for humans aging? well, there are many ways. it's just that, oh, pick out i'll come, i'll come right back to i'm going to get, let me go 1st and you go 2nd fax. this me? yes. so there are multiple reasons that we would potentially when it gets aged. so one is biological reason, so there are machinery in our body, no longer works so well, because we pay attention to for taylor t. so from a lucian already standpoint, too, we humans as a speech, these are the most important, it's activities of life to propagate. after certain propagation that are there is no strong evolutionary drive to keep us. wow, because historically we live, you roughly about 30 to 40 ease and then we pass because then the resources can be
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said for you to your generation. however, right now life has changed due to technology advancement. we have resources to support more people. so this is sort of a philosophical argument as well as biological argument. so, so usually we have a strong agree that we could reverse aging because this is obviously reverse aging or expand live is a long dream over several centuries. but we, in the past we fail. but however, when i was a ph. d student at university of california, san francisco, one of my favorite professors, cynthia, came in, wanted to expand, extend the life span, starting from a little were known as c elegans. so these were live for 2 weeks.
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and then what she did is she asked if she could extend the life span of these worms when she introduced gene mutations. as you could imagine, i was skeptical at 1st. however, shockingly, she did it, she and other colleagues of the other scientific field found that she and they were able to double the worms, maximum life span. interesting, they, this extension is both for life span and how span not only do squirm flip twice as long the 2 weeks old worms, which would have been dead now appear useful and robust with robust movement. so and then install that wouldn't normally leaves a brain degenerative disease no longer did so. so then that would be the equivalent of a 160 years old in schumann. yes. right. it would be a really but healthy. well,
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let me bring in pizza for one moment. i'll come back to the guest. this is free to own on twitter, and i want you to understand what he's mission is. come over here to twitter on a mission to significantly extend huffy human life span. sadie is really important the the, the was, it jumped out to me was healthy human life. i pay the what do you want to add also, so 1st of all, i would like to opt out of action. less thumb is increasing the depo a life changing across might be a 1000 years ago. okay. probably expandable after 30 years old. but now it takes 30 to 40 years old. just social nice a way of each of the goals of our profession, spine, 40 years old. when houses are we are starting to, to, to, to decrease, excuse by apply or the last or how many peers our life from almost doubling. it's not because too much decided to come along for all my life fun is because of to call gen social changes. it takes longer for us to develop to socialize,
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and that's why i would use some our combined and such a great that we do like our development on waste time dollar life amount to use just knowledge of groups that are all way life some even more so if you're asking about vision, important things here is that humans too much company page can be young can for you, or they can be open for help with this plan with them that is age. so age is kind of normal, so nobody, you know, don't stop the gymnast agencies like that. if you have diseases, you'll have medical interventions. so i think the, the context of that as a cutting right now is that people start to get aging prior. they couldn't solve the disease and what we're going to do, everyone is still still aging before does it stop purchasing us? they bought some features that policies for we function, regular sites all we, we unfortunately, so she is a back, a moment, easiest, most mostly, and physics as colton. topic is mostly not the deductible, is where they have to go to my uncle bill,
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which is pretty low century concerns for any most important thing is like a jumpstart page. as someone, most of my interests are stopping. i think troubleshot a few months will stop waging and maybe a few minutes here. i just want to make your revolution. i must apologize for now. i have to use all day reliable by technologies, and i'll just will stop agent right now on to the doors about this topic right before she uses it. let me just bring in a voice from out poor to community. this is aubrey. the grey. as she talks about what one of our biggest challenges right now as a human race is this is aubrey told us that yeah, more than 100000 people die of aging every day. and they do so after a long period of debilitation and decline. and now that is the number one problem across the world, even in the poorest countries of the world, because every country has an average life span of at least 50 now. so
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we absolutely must address it with that i can say, and i'd like to say, but we're all making progress, but we need to make progress much more rapidly. we're getting some really interesting questions angel unusual. i can also take on this one. and one of of us says a key part of a healthy life is being able to accept via thanks, show ality of death. trying to take her away into a tunnel you for being a move to is a waste of time, a best. i don't waste of us trying to maybe be a see a spiritual power rosalyn accepting that with me humans that sub created is i know i'm sure you're nothing. so i'm gonna get this a very, very quickly to have that conversation with, with some of our peers i'm doing. he stopped putting you guys 2nd. yeah, i think that this is a very common question like actually, and i can completely understand where people are coming from when they ask this. but the challenge is that when you're thinking about treating aging, most of us on super interested in and we'll tell it to, you know,
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go over something generally swell up and ask about actually what we care about is this. with that being mentioned earlier, it's health spine, it's about the amount of your life that you can spend free from disease. so gonna come so it's a disease essentially caused by the aging process. heart disease is essentially caused by aging. stroke out time is dementia. all of these diseases, the leading candice, the leading causes of suffering as we mentioned in the modern world, are caused by this process, this biology that we call aging. and so we want to tackle the aging process to remove that suffering. and people will live longer because they're not going on well as a result. and she necessarily think that's a bad thing. i think, you know, death is a tragedy. there was, you know, you never go to a funeral and say, oh my god on go have they died. it really gave that life, meaning i use it just as a story that we tell ourselves to try and justify the fact that we do, you know, we do eventually go out and die. and i think that as we, you know, we do have to accept that human beings, but we shouldn't accept the suffering that comes along with it. and that's what aging biologists really care about. basic i had oh,
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just uh think about the world in which uh, national, just uh can i start the quote on those quote uh, leave for another 10 years more display stories i ended up archiving or another as a forwarding domain. i think today would be fine too much over it. it just sends you some time of booking about 1000 fighter extensions you. well, think about the world where steve jobs probably for another 10 years. i think what the agent essentially uh, is your faith out. the most successful uh, professionals, uh from us uh those guys have known change. so the total complete video traditionals, which means. busy agent, uh, take solid commercials for i don't wanna show slide creepiness from the wall. it's not true. the under the personal institution, it's also a huge economic thing. and also guys, look, we don't die. so i'm kind of your wrestling. this is just as much as you would, you'd, reason will die from jumpstart, as, as much as we used to have. uh, is it useful to think about dimensions and then just think what happens if it don't
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stop agent kind of what would be the amount of truth themselves for suffering at all? let's towards this fantastic african problem that whenever someone dies, a library buttons, i think i just really kind of just the fact that, you know, all of this knowledge is wisdom is accumulated in life experience or the social connections, everything just up in smoke. i mean, not really to crystallize is what people are saying or what is human tragedy of aging. and yeah, because of the oil tradition of some traditional societies. well that hopefully you pass that on to the next generation. so your library lives on the, in the younger generation being, let's be very specific about what is being done right now. that is relevant to us aging in terms of drop technologies and research. what he told us about the one getting an extra, like doubling life span, but when not once, so was going to help us write now. hi. oh,
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great question. so what i was trying to say is to stop 18 or extend the life span is possible. this work was done 30 years ago, and as my colleagues have already told you about, there is a lot of work that has been done to extend how they spend in animals. there is no reason to believe that humans. we don't work that way because in many other circumstances, we humans just use the same kinds of tools and more. that is to say, right, but what is the actual research that's being done? so we understand that there's certain animals that get older, but they don't age a one, you've managed to double it sliced by. well, what about us right now as an aging population around the world? what is that for us right now? so they are, all right, let me, let me get, let me, let me have a little chat with me and then i'll come back to you. so of course,
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they are several ways to answer these questions. they're a potential medication interventions. there are also a lifestyle interventions, so with a common goal to reduce the disease of aging, the burden of disease of aging. so which are heart disease, cancer stroke, dementia frailty, also preserve per process and increase propensity for infection and so on, so forth. right now, the medications potentially that are not necessarily approved or anything and then more work needs to be done. the intriguing, intriguing possibilities are related to and then medication known as met foreman, which is a n t diabetic medication by certain retrospect, to studies in the literature. it appears that it would potentially reduce the propensity to develop heart disease, cancer, and so on, so forth. currently,
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there is a large truck back to clinical trials that is being planned on to formally addressed if this medication can be really reversing. h of other studies including medication, no nets from mice in which has being shown to affect aging in animal models. so those are just, are we talking about my swimming? are we talking about 2 mice can become no. none of these make no perfect. what can we, i to be formally proven to delay aging in humans? yeah, those are interesting. be that the research community following through. all right, piece out, what do we have right now? what are you working on right now to extend a healthy human life span? oh, i just, i wanted to bring up this interesting study month,
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which is called part of yours is where it was full and the teacher can connect the freshman system. so if you don't come to the mice traps a situation where they're able to march to get the younger and the unfortunately, the non commercial molder. so that clearly factors are someplace in practice in my block of mice, at least that could be associated with those agent or possibly even control age, which i've been using for very much the sense of humor, of blood samples. and we identify the fact that they should remove from the shep collision naturally stand slash from mice and forget to just television. take your monday, but don't have to have a pool that this was work and show months as well. but essentially what impact or engage was on knowledge and one big crowd to share of the younger blocked, at least. so we're looking for common political solutions at that time to do what are some crunch, get to stage, introduce whether late in life, all right? brief as you were to hey, andrew was making a face that it was a good fight. so bad face, articulate your face under guide, there was a good face,
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i'm very excited by this stuff because we have literally thousands of ideas on the table. and the way that i often try and write these down is to think about something called the whole marks of the aging process. i know it's because biologists finally have some really strong ideas for the underpinning sally, not my liking of biological mechanisms that causes us to grow old. these changes in our biology that happened as we age on the pin, the whole gamma of age. we like to change, it's not just a cancer with heart disease stroke from the dementia, but also the ring cost. the grey had a frailty, the incontinence. all of these different things that happen to us as we get older, are fundamentally caused by some collection of biological changes. so to give them a concrete example, one of these hallmarks is accumulation of what i called semester so semester is just a so technical term for old. and these are cells up in standard is the current of your body for a long time. and as a result they've stopped dividing. yeah. and what was the always on test sticker? $100.00 lation. can you, can i show it it's about so that yes. all right, hold tight. and then i'll get these of pickup on the back of this video. this video
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came from a bio take organization. they're trying to make a book on drugs to stops in essence. and andrew was just about to explain what semester is. but next, let the animation do that as i've look. you may not feeling as you body ages, it can be an accumulation of malfunctioning so school semester, which is likely to many common age related diseases. seasons have cells and they begin to a nice large quantities of protein causing information tissue. a differential, wesley, the underlying conditions, separate tissue damages disease. so i'm really proud of. i know it's an essence is and just please continue to select the yes and the animation shows you what's going on inside all of our bodies. all of the time the semester is how it's coming to be . now you might think it's weird why the cells and not potty imaging this talks it comp time with molecules if you now think excellent. all right,
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smart trees may be oh that the aging process. the answer is, according to the mean system design, however, hey, i'm a dysfunctional, wholesale can you come and, you know, clean me up and then a young person, do you mean system is very effective? it comes in clears up the semester itself is not a problem, but as we get older, the cells accumulate more and more quickly. and also one of the other hallmarks of aging is a reduction in the efficiency of our mean systems. and we've all seen already. you know, tremendously powerful example of this in the last few years when we saw how much older people were much greater is deceptive of di from a disease like carrying a virus because our immune system is a week or less able to find that often unfortunately. but the immune system is also i, i could sort of a police force within our own bodies as well clearing out the scent sense house. and this might be a very depressing story, sondra. so we're going to find some cause of aging. but the good news is scientists of also identified something that we can do about it, which is that we can give these things. we'll send out electric drugs, ease of drugs that kill this in essence cells. but need the rest of the sounds that the body intact and scientists are given these to moist industry on what they found was they basically made these mice biologically younger. sorry parents
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a bit longer, which i guess is a good start if you're trying to start on the aging process, but not stretching out the frailty at the end of life. these animals that they get us disease, they get less cardiovascular disease. so that comes to like a few cataracts that less frail and a healthy a. so if you stick them on a treadmill and then the mice and this time you must always treat most or use in the experiment, can run further in foster on this treadmill, often by taking the drug that appears to slide on cognitive aging. and frankly, it's worth doing a web search, or some of these are some pictures of these animals because you do not have to be an expert to see that the animals i've had this in essence how treatment i just looked fantastic. very caustic effect. well, that's great. first i'm part of the skin. they just looked like the fantastic looking mice running around. all right, i and i want to bring in the voice of charles brenda because we've been talking about how are we able to look at as was anti aging. what is that out there? and charles wanted to make this point. let's bring him in and then we can talk about it personally. aging is it normally process required to convert a fertilize
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a to a mature reproductively capable. adult aging is not a disease. you're going to age better with good nutrition being mentally and physically active. and basically falling mob suffice, you can age worse by over eating, drinking smoking, taking non prescribed drugs being violent situations. unfortunately, there's an incentive structure in science that has rewarded height in the anti aging space. and it is not at all clear that one can directly target the aging process as a drug approach, despite what's your viewers may have heard. so is that it tells contradicting everything we've been talking about the drugs conte help us. just, i'm just going to get you to do to also read it briefly cuz i've got some questions as well, from my view as me. but yes,
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what charles has been mentioning is a very good point. in the sense, there are some pharmacological interventions, but most probably more importantly would be lifestyle interventions. and so much pressing here is about certain diet, certain size activities, not know toxins including smokes, better, sleep, a good amount of stress, but not bad stress. yeah. social functions and so on and so forth. okay. my are, i'm going to meet as long as i pick some questions from my view is and they really came to, to what you could just read in spots and thoughts. this one is for you piece and again, very quickly on youtube. how much will this cost is this kind of technology available only for the wealthy pizza incident reaction? go ahead or the not the. busy cost a lot, the cost you a customer in the customer spending on customers. think about that quite honestly, for 20 years, 10 years is required to do your clinical trials and vs plus these will be
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a generic buck with no cost. okay. all right, this one i know 1st question andrea, what are the possible psychological and emotional effects of living longer on? definitely bulletin anxiety depression. this one is going to andrew, i'm just going to say 30 seconds paid whole time 100. i think this is so he just dramatically ever played actually because we think it's going to be this huge transformation of the human condition. but i just want you to think about how you conduct your everyday life. how many of your plans are predicated on the fact you're going to die in 20 or 30, or 40 years in the future? people to obviously cipher time and i've got pension, but i think mostly we live. i live some day today. if we happen to be healthier for longer, our friends and family were healthier for longer. this would be a fantastic thing. we've just carry on living our lives as we do now. and i really don't think this idea of getting bored holes much water. all right, you made me so here's my, me saw piece of we are out of time, but it's over us from was conversation i so much more to talk about much more research to take and really appreciate you being peta and you and view as on
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youtube for your excellent questions, i'll say next time, take care of your body, the the weather, it's cute and totally a little strange. wild promotion in time to devise, represses the balance between endangered wild life. and then your neighbors that touch the floor is right there. and there's nothing between the how you have
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a human habitat, nothing to live together on how to 0, how many people here have seen a tiger really, basically entities does the un fits of purpose, like many critics sites just obsolete and doesn't get anywhere near enough done to the amount of money that is put into it's hard hitting into b. c. think lot to their lives. lachaise enough for money to go on its own and built it's on thoughts providing on for centuries, people have been taken care of are. so i have every confidence that future generations will do it as well via the story on told to how does era. once out, loading cuba private businesses about since 2021, cubans have been able to incorporate small and medium sized businesses more than $7000.00 companies cycle being incorporated. how he pays for small businesses like this will boost productivity and get more food on people's flights. but in the
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nation with teachers and scientists and tiny salaries, the imagine private sector is already attracting highly qualified work is away from state jobs to come in as part of cuba is finally moving towards a mixed economy. a growing private sector will likely increase production. could've rhodes, social cohesion, and what is still one of the most of the cool countries in the americas both and now the state remains the dominant economic force fundamental shift because on the way, the, it hello, i'm sorry, i'm your lives in london. a quick look at the headlines now. the us is confirmed that it will send widely bind cluster munitions to ukraine. on friday if you inspector general's office said it was against the continue use of cost to weapons . and germany's government set. it opposes sending them to ukraine. we're working with ukraine to minimize the risk associated with the decision. ukrainian government has offered us assurances in writing on the responsible use of dpi, cm's, including.
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