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city. oh, isn't she lovely? all right, so the spite to cool, the b u t. the business, the impact of beauty pageants on women. i know some men in india, that is what we're talking about. al youtube comment section is life looking forward to hearing what you have to say on this topic. with us to talk about beauty pageants in india and them by we have power me to laura a filmmaker and right in us state of indiana radhika. however, we saw one,

a professor of india culture, i'm jane to studies at the university of indiana. and emb, i put in my a, a form, a supermodel from india. ladies, it's so good to have you. when i didn't mention at the very beginning of the show, it was it, this is the 2nd time in jet warehouse, miss weld back in 1996. didn't go to well, right? if you could sum up the 1996. how state of miss wells in india, what would you say have, as i would say, it was a period of intense controversy. i'm sure my plan and let's remember this. it was held in bangalore, the, the donna so that was the place where the pageant was held. it had state support, but the rash, huge protests, and the streets were filled with protesters and strikes. and if i remember correctly, the swimsuit section had to be postponed up, sorry, had to be in reno,

some of their el reno carry that router. can relocate at the signs of india, exactly. say shields island. and they were protest on the left from the right. and so i, i remember it being a huge period of turmoil while at the same time they would also people who supported the pageant, but their voices were much more muted. and so, um i remember just being, you know, um i was in the us at the time just a few years after i arrived too. and lots of questions from people here. you know, asking me why, why this, why so much protest? you know, why are people so angry about this pageant coming? so yes, um for it to come back, you know, um, so many years later it will be interesting to see what will happen this time. which is so fascinating a, because just before me, swelled was hosted in india for the 1st time miss. well, miss universe with both from india in the i was killing it and the beauty stakes.

so where's the disconnect between hosting it and winning it? you know, i think that positives and negatives do everything and all this 2 sides to a point and it's just unfortunate that it was being seen in the different light then. but i show the content of the volume like the fashion chose bull. so heavy board visit become a lot more into since today, so i'm sure we get a much better response now to power me. so i'm just looking at how the miss world organization, i'm just going to read this. so my laptop, nobody looks at my writings messy. all right, have a miss. well organizations a talking about going to india this time. they chose india as a house country isn't recognized. quote here, the nation's rich cultural heritage. it's commitment to promoting diversity and it's passion for empowering women for me to do so. thanks a go. 1996 was in, you completely changed. i mean, i think um,

it has changed and i agree that i don't, i agree with that another. i don't think that this time around that would be protests like the last time i think. what is interesting is that the last time you had people from a different kinds of political persuasions on the bottom, the same protest. i mean, you have the right when you had left just organization. so you have 7 to store the migrations. also testing, i think the feminist or may of feminists and women have definitely evolved to think very differently about these things. i'm not so sure about the right thing, but you know, i do see that the way that the misquote the organization is talking about it is very much in keeping with the logic agenda also of the government to want to promote india as displays of inclusion and of progress and empowerment. uh which is a little bit in contrast with some of the things that are happening locally. so yes, i don't think that we see that kind of a protest because we saw it last time because it is dovetailing, i think with the search and allows you agenda as well. other than the fact that

people accept beauty pageants as i'm actually part of life. and i think that women question, so thieves, social media or this is completely onto the way we think about these things to. yeah, i, i, it's all to do, but i mean i, i do think you know, that the larger landscape of beauty, culture of fashion, you know, there's been a huge and additional shift with young women now because there's also, to some extent, some of the critiques of the pageant that came from the right, right? we're a very much about body shaming. you know, a type of modesty that perhaps many feminists don't necessarily endorse. right? nor do, nor do feminist endorse objectification. but i do think, you know, that this agency said, i don't think the female body that has changed for the, you know, for the court in india. i don't know where you are exactly what that means because for instance, in 1996, as i said, the swimsuit competition, which we're looking at right now,

had to move outside of india. and also it looks like the young ladies are covering themselves partially with wraps and colors and even jackets. so they're not fully showing off the body of that form. so what does that mean now in, in, in contemporary india? so how within 10 b and be seen in public? yeah, i think to a large degree, right. the attitude towards women has being that women represent the family, the men represent the community, you know, women's on or is a symbol right of the community in the family. and so a modest women challenge, you know, family on the community on now. and so there's been a lot of shame and control right, or are exhorted over women. and so i even, you know, do i do mental, even as a young woman, right. the kinds of policing expedients, very intense, even if your family is a bit liberal,

the community right pressures are very strong. so to some degree, there is something good about them and feeling like if they want to, they can decide what part of their body they want to show. they can decide what is more to start in modest yeah. right. and if they're not doing it only to please man, that is something empowering about that, that we cannot ignore. right? and so i do it right. okay, i'm going to show you in case you've missed some of those pictures from a pageant days. i know, goodness me, this is extraordinary. you'll stunning. how did you do this? well, here we talking here is this, you know, make it. sorry. we're dropping 19. 76. up in manila estimates asia press and it was, it was at the time when of being in the movies being in modeling. and the beauty contests was not so accepted or around. but you. 2 we,

we kind of went out there and did the best we go, came back list and like kind of went on. but one didn't do any fees, objectified, or anything of the sort. you know, in fact, you said bob, because you are representing your country. you were taking your college shut out there was a sisterhood among all of the contestants, maybe learn from them as much as they know from us. and i mean, it was a platform where we built up what's analogies? and we felt that kind of confidence and came back and been for the my head. i want to put enough, i think. yes, on a go ahead. sorry. the morning part for the, for the young ladies of today because today most of the contests, i'm more of a personality context and do you invest a lot of clear it's beauty with above it. all right, i'm so glad. yes. i'm so glad you said that. cuz i'm going to bring us up to date with miss in the out. well seen a shad

t to talks about miss india wild and why she was competing at what other people should compete in it and seen a shuttle. you will be competing in miss, well, later on this year, but have a look about how strongly frames the current pageant seminal missing. the all has given us. a boss was really more than every year for the past, 58 women, what aspiration and space, and most important piece of beauty for the if you do want to be an inspiration to an entire generation of women who come off to you guns, joining the avenue called miss india. us. alright, that was, that's a really interesting probably by that i'm and a go ahead what we're going to say very quickly. yes. so viewed you've at the top is ending the platform. now that's become such a strong back platform for the contestants to reach out to people from all walks of life. people who have been much the lies do don't get that chance to be of that and

to make a difference in their lives. so beauty contests, a deputy with a province. all right, so, so you're saying, so not just the branding idea, is that that really is purpose. that maybe is i'm going to ask you to tell us with a show of hands. if you consider yourself to be a feminist hand up, if you consider yes to have this, then i the, you know, i, i just feel how do i does your head? i do not see your head or, and i say to husband monica, so humans. but here's the conversation, i know i audience will be thinking about, how can beauty pageants be feminist? are they not a relic of the past paramita thoughts? well, i think so if you know the ideal label, incoming 10 minutes or next feminist is kind of fruitless because every cultural event has multiple meanings, right. and it's, it's a different experience for the individual. and i think we found denied. but if the

young woman who gets to travel the world to on a lot of money, to be appreciated, something that you have to ask one of you that she has of there is going to be confidence. and there's a kind of cultural capital that has been stopped by like, it was no, it creates a new kind of work life for women. and it allows them to be rich and famous, which is quite an important fact of expressing yourself in the world and be 7 us. but on the other hand, i mean 90 weekly. i didn't say something but that and, and in the past, you know, it was all the men from several cases from rather a leak families. right. so now the beauty pageant you do have, i sense that it's exactly what you're saying, but it's opened up to a larger group of women. yes, i know at the same time, at the same time, i don't think that we can forget that beauty pageants are not only about beauty, i'm not sure. i mean the out about the kind of our way should not is. it's more than just it's about music, but i see i'm surrounded by beauty,

pageant, queens, and with, with showing them on our behalf. and they all stomach that d r day. you don't want to us, how can i mean, this is the reason, the 5 it is about a very specific kind of beauty. so i don't think we should forget that drive like that is there is an autonomy that happens when it was in the world and you work and you become appreciated. but it's, it's a southern type of image. so i'm going to go to sign up, but i'm going to go to add a via miss india. laura dot to again in the 2000. it was a reading productive year for india. did amazing that. yeah. so this is a comedian, you know, not normal to in a section where you also the tough question as a contained. and let's lean into the onset, cuz if i relevant, have a look to there's a final question. right now there's a protest going on right outside here, calling the miss universe pageant disrespectful of women. convinced them that

they're wrong. i think, i think foggins like the miss universe patch and gives us young women a platform just for into the fields that we want to enforce or head speed. entrepreneurship the at the armed forces, the politics. it gives us a platform to voice our choices opinions and makes us strong independent. let be all today i don't. what would you add to? norris thoughts the absolute, each thoughts on i'm besides giving your sales to platform, giving you the platform, it gives you a platform to talk to lives of people who have a disadvantage of women will have a disadvantage and are and don't have a voice. you're able to give them a voice as well. so, so it's not only about sales, but it's about helping and making that difference in society do today. i think i don't think we can apparently the radical. yeah, yeah. i didn't forget that. you know, it is

a very clear image is kind of idea of beauty and it is about a certain kind of feminine that you too can you just, oh i like, how would you describe a sudden kind of thing to, are we talking about in india in the indian context, fast skin with the single oh, green eyes the i think see been for sure. right. i'm very, very straight like this very kind of a heterosexual world also that it's represents. so i think it doesn't, in that sense, mirrored with diversity of beauty, nor does it necessarily mirror the diversity of purpose, right? so it is also very limited, very specific kind of humanitarian work. but you can be politically radical and be in a beauty pageant very easily. so i think that's why we recognize that it creates, i mean, there's something radical for an individual to be able to be part of the space. i'm . there is something that has happened for women in india, not only for beauty pageants, but a kind of complete shift in the representation of women's bodies sexuality,

claiming your own body. and also this divide that used to exist, you know, between pretty goes and smart growth. it's like smart goes always dowdy and pretty close are not smart. so that divide has kind of been a raise to a great extent. and today people claim bald bab, beauty, i'm very intelligent from the brightness in different ways. so i think what all of that has happened, we cannot forget that if an indian context with kind of person who is mostly in a beauty contest, isn't africa. listen. and it is, it's not just any kind of beauty is one kind of beauty and that one kind of beauty is linked to one kind of womanhood and one kind of femininity. it's not like everything and everybody, so i don't think we can. okay, right. okay, i'm going, i'm going to come to you, but via schiff van de seen her, who actually attempted to take part in a beauty pageant. and she has a story to tell about that. and then immediately off the back of her, please add your thoughts. here we go. if you do much and stop at the lice,

a woman said securities, in fact, the standard of beauty propagated by passions. this thoughts just aspiration payment. the last looking box a year ago when i bought this dated in the box and it was because i wanted to be labored. beautiful. and my little smart, think on with it. i think it's time we big a step back and reevaluate how we define b. b from getting the emails to head extension and expensive skin treatment or mental constantly striving to look a certain way to fit and a radical go ahead. yeah. so i think, you know, building also of what part of meet the said, right. i would say that the beauty pageant, you know, the stage, right, as we look at it has certainly changed. it's become inclusive and so many different ways. um, you know, and, and i also think it's, you know, you have to look at beauty pageants, norton, i solution. but you know, the, so much

a dispute into the india in terms of the fashion industry in terms of the other part of the beauty industry. the women's magazine industry and changes happening in bollywood as well. right? so beauty pageants are very much part of this tapestry. right. and so i think, you know, what you've, auntie is pointing out is yes that you know. yeah, not every one you know can, can be missing. yeah. uh certainly the, you know, there are restrictions on, as we already spoke about, right. size, you know, the kinds of hair, the kind of skin color, all of those right are still very much there. we have to recognize those constraints certainly, but i also think we have to recognize a visa constraint that spread across various popular culture and media industries. right? so that, you know, you can. * and see, oh, you can't claim the beauty pageant that is, you know, that's the only space that's restrictive. so how can we talk about right,

opening up, right? the opening up sort of the space of beauty to be far more inclusive, has to be done. i think beyond just beauty pageants, right. so yeah, and i think the one that we went up, it's not that in unity patches, but there is until the beauty of other spaces right here. you know, i think that you'll see the disconnect between by the diffraction view. i mean, just leave it when we need some space for, and i want you to just respond very quickly to some of us who are watching on youtube. one of them says indian values of being lost, immediate reaction to that. not at all. it's up to the individual. i mean it's, it's like viewed using the eyes of the beholder. that's so bad because we all, i need to keep your values. in fact, it's each one's perspective on that. i certainly don't think so. i didn't compromise in any of my values when i represented india international contests. so i don't see where that comes from. i mean,

the value we value each of the beauty is, is that these are gone given assets, and if you decide that you want to show it up, we shouldn't be allowed to. marie says, i have no, this is on youtube. thank summary for watching. i have no pageant women who has done patches the entire life, which is point bring so much mold and beauty, intelligence, weld involvement, and outreach along with continuing to give back on what i find fascinating. it is about miss. well 2023. it is based on philanthropy, child sees that the young women will be bringing ones promotes. i'm giving them an opportunity to do so. is that because people patches, they have to change, they have to be more contemporary economy just going them investments. it's yes, absolutely. and the template from the origin, the template it has moved and it has shifted. it has shifted to include and mean a lot more. we need more substance in the what i mean, it's just not, it's you, you cannot stick to that narrow lean. and everybody realizes it, like i said,

even fast and chose to date have become all inclusive and beauty contests are on the way they're doing show. well, i mean, we don't think what we haven't talked about is, is really the business of beauty in india. it's 6 plus there's ways to make you look like to imply to say and lovely. you'll have to look gorgeous, isn't this or playing isn't a mis weld competition in india, playing into that oscar and willing to spend more money on themselves. just the thought roddic to yeah i, i have to say yes. and this is why the 1996 missed work back in for the interesting to because it occurred right after indian the indian economy changed quite rapidly . right? we began to have, it cannot make, liberalization, india opening up to for, and companies. so, beauty pageants, you know, and are the thoughts of, you know,

beauty, call to go hand in hand, the, the beauty as a business. so you cannot do both right? one from the other, the one quick thing i'll also add to this is that the beauty pageant you know, to some degree, also build on the vestiges of stock and see, right. do have a beauty queen to some degree, you know, noblesse oblige going out and saving the mass this. so if you have to think about that model as well, right? so backed up by the beauty business, you have somebody who has been cut out queen. it's not and like what prints up and says diane, not did. it's not on like what queen elizabeth does, right. so that is a model of no less a lot. yeah. right. built in that can be quite a tight article. so that is something to think about as well. and i think the thing that didn't happen, the thing about the tapestry of popular culture is that you know, we do the passions beauty pageant miss in miss was from india really opened up the

indian market because medics companies on fashion business. so yes, it is a question of the market. oh, why of best buy from this? what happens of duty by this happens to those, those groups actually you as women, when you buy just entering cinema, entering television and also change part about union? do i to you? oh yeah, i'm always talk. wouldn't be mobile up to us. it's not that everybody look the way they look, they didn't look like super models. and there was a distinction between a kind of beauty in front of the advertisement that kind of gives you find focus and still haven't kind of diversity on union street that most thing. but then then my vision, that is of course, and so to the point about, is it not impacting eating disorders? is it not meaning that people are spending a lot of money on cosmetic procedures a matter of course to the cost of the nice things like that's the thing that's on the bottom. it's impossible to say you can't do this a good or bad thing,

but it has money back into society, which i'm very reading and branding and some of which are actually ready. cuz i know the, in this conversation, pardon me to a radical, an add a, you have demonstrated that it's not either or it's not, let's get rid of the bt projects. it's not empowering women. and, and also it's too much of a business and going to, it's using women as products. it's very complicated and very layered. i am going to be watching with interest to see what happens with miss. well, 2023 being held in india towards the end of this year. one is the original opponents of the 1996 this well competition was a b, j, p who and now in power in india. so how fast and these is that what will happen in november or december? thanks for watching. i'll see you next time. take everybody, the,

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