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was in the media undermining our society. can americans cross their supreme court is not corrupt. the critic who look us politics, the bottom line, the highest i me ok. science for watching the screen. the do, raymond, of a train coming toxic material in ohio area this year could change the feature of ro, safety in the united states, in the investigation by full size, quote, the route they take a look at us frames and how safe they are. let's take a look, a just normal friday night watching tv, watching netflix and everything. and almost 9 o'clock our house rumbled in. it should i knew instantly that the train drilled. the roman has prompted questions about real
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safety in the us. the disaster could have been prevented for years. well, both workers have warrant that changes in the industry or compromising safety. it was a disaster waiting to happen, and it happened watkins for the address, st. east. hottest, the train dissolves. does that is our conversation today on youtube? the comment section is live looking forward to your thoughts and your questions for joining us today. jessica comrades is a community activist and joins us from east palestine in ohio. jamie wallace is president of the unit to counsel for east palestine trained raymond, and she is in the town of east live a pool ohio. and julia rock is a reporter at the the. she joins us from new york city. i wish that we were talking under better circumstances, but often when you have an incredible disaster,
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things begin to change in that community action happens. you change the future for other americans. other people might be in that same situation. jessica, is that happening in east palestine? are you saying, well, this is never going to happen again as a so i would certainly like to see that this never happens again, and that's a goal that we're all working towards. i think that there are a lot of different policies that currently need to change and a lot of different areas, you know, from rail to health, to the chemical industry, the plastics industry. there's a lot of work to do, but i certainly think that we can move forward. i think the 1st step in doing that is uh, you know, asking governor to wind to declare an emergency in our area. when we talk about a toxic material to raymond, jamie, what does that mean? what was that did not see, but it was very chaotic that night when, you know,
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we found out that there were chemicals on history or they were telling you, i, you know, pretty late at night that we needed to evacuate our homes. so we kind of grabbed our children and ran a lot of us didn't even know where we were going to go, or how long we were going to be gone. i would love to play this faith. this is evan talk. he spoke to us and little bit earlier about what people being told about safety. this is what evans said, i'm going to get you to react of the back of it cuz i want you, i want to know how safe that you feel right now what. what do you know for sure. he's as an festival. i feel like the e p a has given the residence of the area in ohio or pennsylvania. really good information about what camels falls for at least during the sale and some searching for and what the real toxic effects could be. so far, the line his band is that the air is fine and safe and the water is fine and safe.
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international view is the, is the united states environment protection agency, jamie, you, on not in your head to you know, there's been 0 transparency. you don't have to be a scientists to know that when they back you wish and was listed on my and my community. we didn't even know what all chemicals were on the train. we still haven't seen the manifest. the test results were not bad from our creeks. they were not doing soil sampling. the only thing they were doing was coming into our homes with the device and testing our air. so since the development mark journo from the federal e p a has admitted that that testing they're on the water or i'm sorry, i apologize. the testing turned on the air was not done. it is sufficient level the machine. they had these chemicals where they had to be in at 5 times,
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the reportable level to pick it up in our homes. other chemicals couldn't be picked up at all. so there was absolutely no testing that was done before they said it was safe to go back into our homes to what's going on, hey, one residence and a feeling. we can't trust what we're being told about how safe we are. how can i i mean i'm a very curious. did you go fast, jamie then you pickup? sure, yeah, i'd be curious to hear from the residence on this, but i think that one of the main challenges was just how much sort of cast and uncertainty. there was right in, you know, the wake of development at, as they were just talking about p a 11 way i think to ensure trust in the us testing procedures and in, in the government's response is to sort of have a swift and very clear response and that, that wasn't really what happened in,
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in the wake of the development time we go have what we can say. so i was just gonna say, i agree, you know, there was 0 transparency. um had i went back in my home when they lived in that evacuation and i had it demanded to have a talks ecologist at my house, my daughter to not be here today. i will not be here talking to you today. so when you talk about trust in the p a you, when you tell me that you knew that that error testing that you were doing on my house was not saved when you were doing it. it wasn't showing safe limits, it was showing nearly fatal limits. how do you trust someone that could have resulted, you know, their information could have resulted in your 3 year old daughters that i don't know if they'll ever get my trust back on. i think to jamie's point to, you have to really understand that a lot of times when they do measure in the homes, they're measuring one single moment in time. so the bol, the device is, you know,
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clearly are not measuring at compliance levels that would show whether or not we have a health impact. and we know that they're not showing that cuz we're having health impacts rate. but when you have these levels of regulatory compliance versus is it safe, you know, those terms are not so not synonymous. and i think it's really important to understand that you have an industrial standard for exposure rate, specifically to brain on chloride, where maybe a work or would be exposed 8 hours a day, you know, and then they'd have it the gas in period over the weekend. but for us that are living here, we do have this consistent exposure and it is causing acute health issues. it was kind of refreshing and well, hard to swallow. the cdc did recognize that we are having health issues that we have been exposed, but the shred of dignity comes in in that we, you know, have been validated. and that's something new that something the
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a has not provided. you know, they continue to say that it's safe, it's safe, it's safe and you know, it's hard to swallow to just sit around and wait to get cancer. but you know, at least we have some truth on the table. all right, so vinyl car ride was well, that train was carrying. now jamie and jessica, i'm fortunate your, your ex, but some final fluoride. jamie, what do we need to know about vinyl fluoride, as you need to know that it's higher, it's a highly carcinogenic. so the likely the people that are exposed to it will get cancer, you know, and increases the risk. and also, you know, vinyl flooring was just one of those chemicals. yeah, that was released when they did this topic. it's. busy over our town, you know, something people weren't talking about is also what the combination of chemicals are going to do to our bodies when they test for reportable limits of vinyl fluoride. they only subject that subject to one single. busy chemical,
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so what are all these chemicals combined even if they are below reportable, less. busy during to our bodies, they don't know. uh so is, you know, my, another member of, you know, the council said, you know, we're all lab right. is what we are at this point. you know, i'm like jessica said, we know we're going to end up with cancer. so the government needs to step up and start studying our health. now, they should have already done this by, you know, at least if i die of cancer in 10 years. someone else can be saved by that research . and jamie, you know, you, you mentioned about the lack of, of political will to shift away from using this known human carcinogen, which was actually deemed, or human carson engine back in 1974. so we've had almost 50 years, i say no, we are using this as a long time and you know, over 99 percent of vinyl chloride is used to make pvc plastic, which, you know,
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this roughly accounts for about i would say about 12 percent of the plastics that we use in this country. you know, and these are plastics that cannot be recycled. these are your number 3 plastics. little kids, toys, pbc piping, unnecessary plastic packaging. you know, these are things that all can be replaced by something else. and so i think it's a good start to move away from plastics by having something that you know, we can use alternative methods or materials plastic. there are really important in the healthcare industry. so i certainly don't think that we should necessarily shift away from those. but the ones that we can shift away from are the ones that vinyl chloride are responsible for making jessica and jamie and julia, we're getting some really interesting questions from what, what is what's in right now. i'm going to make this a speed round austin autism as quickly as you can. how is this? this is not only in ohio where with a trains of transporting talks, a deadly material is happening or of america. jamie, your noting response,
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please. i mean, that's the problem with the deregulation of the railroad, narrow they putting communities lives in all over united states, but you know, all over the world, but they're also putting our 1st responders, you know, right. in the direct line of him, they're responding to these fires the most of the time. not even knowing what chemicals they're being exposed to. another question from avenue, as all the residents adjacent to the ro lines off the consent was kind and kind of be transported on the ro, or are they offered any notice in advance? jessica, you know, we have no idea what's being transported. um, you know, you have, we, we know what was on the train now, but i have never even really thought about what's been on the train and i've lived here for, you know, i grow up here. uh, so no, we have no idea. we have no say there really isn't very much regulatory compliance and you're right, this does impact more than just ohio, more than just pennsylvania. if you live near a railway,
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this could certainly happen for you and even moving back into the vinyl core. i conversation, you know, these plastic manufacturing facilities are located in areas that are low income or areas that are primarily populated by people of color. and this is a serious issue because there are economic impacts because of those as well as the health risks from just being around that in a residential space. do we spoke earlier today of a router he is from a transportation union. he identified not just the problem, but it will. so it's a solution. i would listen to him and then pickups and well, you know, from your reporting, his day i would say the single biggest thing we can prove the safety of our nation's freight in their real network would be an improvement of the safety culture. and the 1st place, but i'm not sure that's really going to happen. the current business culture, we're doing the railroads down this, you know, dangerous past they've, they've gone down. um, you know,
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these pressures have been applied by wall street and private equity folks. and the cultures have now turned to speed up everything safety down. so he's, he's exactly right that, you know, one of the, the main threats to safety on the railroads is the business model, which is that, you know, investors have been wanting the profits to be returned to them in the form of stock buybacks and dividends. so there has not been a lot of investment, both in the actual technology of the railways, but also in rail staff. you know, staffing levels had been cut on the railroads by like 30 percent in the decade leading up the development. there is an effort in congress right now to impose stricter regulations on the railroads. it's being led by the to ohio, sen, sharon brown, and j. d. vance. and it and you know, but impose new restrictions on. has mat train's the train that the railed?
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if you can believe it, the train that the rail denise policy and was not being regulated as one of these has mat treatment. so progress the trans fats. yeah. how. how is that? and that's legal. that's ok. i mean, it's giving you the canada, please go ahead. first of our politicians are bought off. you can finish it was uh huh. go ahead. yeah. i mean that, that, that's the, that's the short answer. the long answer, you know, is that there was an effort to regulate has matt drange back in 2015 and chemical industry lobbyists, rail industry lobbyists sort of pushed for a very narrow definition of has not trends safety. regulators said that's not a good idea and, and congress went with the lobbyist as they very often do. so one of the things a foot lengths team did as they were investigating what happened here is palestine . ohio was that was like wherever the politicians were, the leaders in this,
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why is this happening regularly? and this is what just came up with from the fort ice team having this and have a look a well the, the freight railroad has an enormous amount of cloud. in the united states congress, former congressman peter to fazio told us it was nearly impossible to pass stricter legislation for the railroads during his 3 decades in congress. i mean, they have been very resistant to anything that would deal with, you know, length of trains or, you know, safety issues and other things over the years. so from your exhaust, jessica and jamie, there is now a ro, safety bill bipartisan. does that make you feel like at least this could be a milestone in the history of us rel, transport what happens to us doesn't have to happen again. jamie, you start jessica. you for that? right? yeah. i mean, i think that is wonderful. it's definitely needed. but you know,
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my only issue with that is, you know, while i appreciate the politicians doing that, we also have residents that are still in their homes that are actively being exposed to these chemicals. now that norfolk southern has been ordered to dig the trap, so they have done this burn of chemicals in a fit. they cover that data with just the gravel so that to him and he is so ill so that they can get their trains back running. they've been ordered to clean that up, they are cleaning that up, but meanwhile they are exposing as to that contaminated soil into the chemicals are . busy over again. so why don't i appreciate, you know, our politicians for pushing for the bigger picture. right now, we need to get people out of their homes. we need governor to want to declare that, you know, the state of emergency, and we need people out. we've not even gotten so much of the bottle a wire from our current politicians or i think is you know,
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currently the n t s be investigatory hearing is being held on his policy and this week and i was actually really refreshing. i went to the community meeting last night, jamie was there as well, and we both were able to ask them questions and speak with ms. harmon, the, i think that there are a lot of truths that are coming to the table and it, like i said, it's refreshing. it's nice to see somebody that is for the people, which is what seems to, you know, motivate the n t s b at this time. and so i'm confident that we'll continue to be able to move forward with some of those regulatory policies. and that the n t s b will fight for us on, on the, in congress at, at that level that we so desperately need to make change to enter your space and national transportation safety board and those hearings the right see this week. probably even as we speak, judy, can you i seen you during the he, jessica, you are actually living in a disaster. so right now,
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as we also deal with what is happening right now, but also what could be prevented from happening? what is in miss rel, safety build up could stop another, is palestine ohio from ever happening again. what would you pick out from that bill, julia? and so there are some things that are in it, and there are some things that are not in it. and gsp has recommended, right? okay, but uh, some, some of the basic things that are in it are in improving the wayside track detector system, which is basically a way for trains to detect problems that might lead to development. this was a huge issue as is coming out in the field hearing where an over he did. wheel bearing was not detected in time. so that's something that's in the bill. expanding the definition of a has mat train is in the bill and requiring on a, an ever so slightly faster timeline trains to improve the tank cars they use to
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ship chemicals is in the bill. what was removed from the senate version of the bill during a committee hearing was a requirement that the transportation secretary set limits on train links and that is coming out to be a big everybody. new is a big problem, but it's, it's been coming out to a stranger and could begin with this area 2 miles long. so it could be going postal house and it's 2 miles long. and the longer the train, the more likely it is that something might go right. and then it's do route that i understand that correctly, you understand that correctly. well. and so the other sort of, most important thing that's in the bill that we heard from one of the unions earlier is, is a requirement that train staff with at least a 2 person crew, which isn't very many people are that's really the tray, right? right. minimum, i'm going to bring an error in klein, i'm inclined, is arrested from each policy and she talks about how the residence of managing
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right now. he's aaron the hey, what we're seeing in these as me in the surrounding communities is a lot of frustration and confusion attention. i mean, there's some people that are just really frustrated trying to get the right answer is to know if they're 8 or their water, their soil is safe and they're finding it either difficult to get those answers or i'm doubting the reliability of the answers that are given to them and that could be a frustrating place to be in. and i also see that there's not a discrepancy in the area. there are a lot of people that um, that are sick and don't have any symptoms at the moment. so therefore, i think everything is okay, and then there are others that have experienced a lot of symptoms and a lot of sickness. and are feeling just frustrated that they're on scene or on heard, are unable to get the answers to feel confident in their health and the health of their family. so many questions for you from our view is around the world process. for instance, jessica, i'm going to put this to you. i'm curious if that's the row and the industrial chemical manufacturers are equally comfortable in this catastrophe. to that is
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a great question. um that is something that i actually post this week to market darnell. um they have named uh the epa has named norfolk southern as the responsible party at this time. and so they are responsible for the entire cleanup . i did ask about, you know, occidental vinyl oxy vinyl is a, a guess someone that's asking questions at the the end? yes. be hearing today, but i do think there's certainly a level of responsibility for you know oxy vinyl to really step up and support the idea of improved real safety because it is, you know, essentially their product that is poisoning us. so it's an important distinction for sure. i'm going to place the how to sign. to also talks about this. it's almost like there's an equation between how safety we keep people and then how much does the politicians need to be persuaded before they will keep safety in mind. so how
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puts it weight, but as an eye for the areas, railroads are really important part of our society. unfortunately, the people of these policy being witnessed an attempt at the deficiency at the cost of safety. proactive policy changes, leg shorter, trains improve working conditions and increase safety standards are ought to be prioritized by governments and corporations. so that this style of development and environmental disaster that we saw in these policy and can be prevented. so much common sense. all right. at dante has one word, question compensation question mark. jamie, what have you got so far? all right, so far what we've gotten is reimbursement for our lodging and food. the problem i have with that is they left more folks southern in control of this. so it's like going to someone who views you and begging them for how to make things right. the
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assistant center is not or equitable. they're not basing decisions on relocation and what expenses will be covered uh by any scientific method. it depends on the human being that you deal with their mood. how persistent you are. you know, they might say jessica lives across the street from me and she is eligible for relocation. and i'm not, they might say, well, give jessica 6 months will. it leads jamie, we're giving you a 3 month lease, you know, we're going to pay for all new clothes for you. jessica. jamie, you're only going to get food and lodging. there is no rhyme or reason to the way that the residents are being reimbursed. you know, we did receive a $1000.00 inconvenience check right after the evacuation was lifted. but besides that, the only thing that we have seen from norfolk southern is reimbursement for mainly lodging and food with no rhyme or reason to the way that they are giving that out
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to residence. jamie and jessica, you've been extruded in the way that you've really on past what happens to a neighborhood communities to impacted by a catastrophe. what the community has to do and the rest is have to do to make a difference. i'm going to leave you with a clip from this phil. this is low need miller, of from the fort lines the investigation code, the road investigating the us railroad industry. jessica and jamie is living it, but you can find out their experiences right here now to 0 fort lines. thanks for watching my plan for us. i seen in the future for us to leave this home to our son. so he could have a good start in life. we don't know what the future holds. it's just, i'm sorry, it's going to be safe and office, stay here. get out of dodge. the
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