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[000:00:00;00] the highest on the okay, thanks for watching the stream on today's episode. why we say that's amazing, 5 doleful guidance. people who work exactly like us, but i totally unrelated. he's professor, i don't believe the doubles, magical twins doppelganger as have appeared in mythology and literature and folklore and cultures all around the world. and greek mythology, there is narcissus who was obsessed with his own reflection. there's the egyptian

con or spirit double in celtic folk floor, there is the fetch, a look like that appears to us at the moment of our death. the word doppelganger is of german origin and it means double door or double walker. and the figure of the doppler gang, or began to appear in german literature in the late 18th century. and it represented a 2nd self and external non biological twin that appears to us or visits us. and that usually wants something from us. we are unpacking the double kind of phenomena from a cultural past. no, as scientific perspective would love to help us. if you're on new to me that can let us know your stories at if you're on twitter, tweet as the picture of the whole guys side by side. and we can be the judge to get a handle is act a nice day. i or

what kind of have a double guy without the whole gang his tale chasing has his own, the whole gang that he lives in the us state of georgia. and as an i p professional, my color is totally as double as if he could work that out to that place. friends, he has a, he's a practice manager and he lives in atlanta, most officially to sell a man also has a double gang 8. he is a banker and this niger in city of kaduna. i'm assuming how much calamity is how much still toes double his and managing director and also joins us from, could do not have no genuine delta manual. as stella is direct to the joseph to that, i see kenya research institute, and he had a team that we sent a report to and its magic links between the whole kindness joins us when boston having m s m m k. how did you find out that you had a duffel banner and how did you meet?

tell us the story and bessie stopped. oh it was we, but other than by then i was, i was in my, in this i people, holiday and everyone who i mean like i saw someone like looks like they have a one time it was like on time to time. i'm fine. everyone else. my other son honestly looking just like it was the small so uh on the friday i went to the office. yeah. and i was with the exception and i see the mouse looks at the us. it was the awesome new one that used to down with quite and uh, one of the stuff they said she said that, you know, we just buy it with both way. and it said this morning and this lady is waiting to

. so i was wondering, so it is, no, you must be told me that he was not to go back to school. i see what my husband uses his phone number. i wouldn't but see, i think on a sunday and the friday i you know, said to us, are you still? yeah. most us as we always put a few things myself on that i saw you. oh yeah. wait about it. yeah. that sweet. so you see on the me the f m as in the opposite end type was not like when you saw more like yourself. do you recognize that? did you recognize that most? i looked exactly like it at 1st. yes i did. i did. what was it like,

what is that i and, and my 1st my initial reaction to those, this has to be the person that everybody's you saying that it was like, right? and this is, there's no 2 ways about charlie. a michael who wants to go to they like the whole kind of see it is best for a while now. it's nice. absolutely. yeah. i got to go. we could confuse them. yes. yes. ok. well i will. i find fascinating that you will start is, is that you will friends and you have no idea what the whole gang is. i mean, looking at you right now, is i how is that possible? how did you go through a friendship before you actually realize, hang on a minute. we like you to the die. yeah. so i, i, you know, it's interesting because i'm back to think that i'm more of michael's doppelganger than the other way around because that, that's kind of really what the, the way it happened for us is we, we became friends. but mike lived in atlanta longer than i had, and people kept mistaking me for him or so. and so really,

i think the way that it involved, besides, you know, our friendship developing works is, you know, cuz it is that we started seeing pictures of us together as we became friends and as time went on and we would see pictures of each other together and events or whatever, that's when i think of it kind of became more obvious to us. but you know, when you're, when you're the person, you can see the difference is more than the similarity sometimes. right? but i mean, it was, we got mistaken for each other. all over the place all the time. that's michael. yeah. so truly because we, we, you know, it, it took a while for us to start realizing because like he said, people were mistaking him, mistaking him. and we had a common group of friends. we met through music and a band, charlie joined the band and my friends were in the bands, i guess for them. but then more more as we were performing, people would ask for you guys, brothers for you guys, probably not happen to be in a bar one time. so do you play guitar with monkey one?

i said, no, that's charlie. so it was, it came about the people pointing it out to us like people are going up to charlie and then people kept pointing it out to us and then started happening to me. people mistaking me for charles. i'm going to bring in a toria who spoke to a little bit earlier and victoria explained the experience has been confused by somebody who was much more well known than she is. so let's have a look has been compared to dennis, even 1992 and a least actress in the past. and initially i took it as a piece of flattery, but as more and more people said the book redeemed. and also i have no idea. i begun to think it was in fact a kind compliment or to come in and say, she should look like me because i'm older. however we time i would look at some movies and try to see the singularities between those. and i think there's something there. a little bit about the official structures and the skin

complection as well. i think it's interesting and i do believe that they duplicated as delta as that out. what are we seeing when we say to people who look really similar that we call them doleful guys? what is i like doing? so our i is, is capture, is capturing a mixture of features in the face, the nose, the mouse, the i, the structure of the bones there. and it's something that we use to recognize our friends, and i would have family. in fact, we live with our sons, they look like as something that did it out of a sense. in fact, because behalf of us in ethics, what should i have of that then? that's the case. and it's been destined because uh, not right now the new generations, the teenagers. i just have to look for it, look like people up to date, then the little out. and this way this is that loving themselves a lot. i will, i'm wondering if when you have to do the whole,

can you like them because they know like you told me to a really good friends. i live in french for a long time. is it because you're looking at yourself, tommy, it's interesting cuz oh yeah we, we should, we hit it off almost from the very beginning and became really close friends and remained close friends. you know, for a long time. it's a bit one of the things we've talked about, there was the fact that we have this whole experience together a be look like. so we, we have something that we with each other that we don't have with any of our other friends, right? like we, we have a bond and a connection that's very, very different. you know, i never thought about it from a perspective of did we initially attract each other, you know, become attractive because we looked at my cause that there were more along the lines of our personality. yeah, but i mean it's certainly something that kept us together and it's, and it's, um, it's an interesting bond to happen. somebody,

we just don't have the audio. i know it better. so. so the, the possibility that the member put these people together using a facial programs the same they use in the airport or to up into your rifle and just looking at the face. but maybe they share other stuff and maybe they like each other because they have come, a hobbies come on face. so these can be added to the, to the stab. you go to select some of your research that you've been doing this based on a photography project. this is francois, it's pronounced photography project. let me, let me show you here. it's a, i'm not a look like, and i'm just gonna scroll down here. i'm looking for 2 particular people. here we go. i know, so they know like the whole guys this is nuno and this is miguel. we spoke to a little bit earlier to talk about how people do think they look exactly the line

that's of when the start to the working in your fist. and when i go there, miguel was there and he was so so similar to me in all aspects that that felt weird and to the very and any feeling. and it feels like i have a nice differential problem like i was there already when i arrived with all the yeah, we're also some other similarities like some based on stuff and what not like music that i feel that the we work on the same area. we have both developers and that's pretty much it. all right, so i'll just say that i do not think noon a miguel like each other. what will you be looking at in their faces to say ok, these faces all similar to. yeah, so um the degree of look i like it has, uh a lot of, uh, we know they're gonna be very wides. for example,

the people that are bad for look like either way we call the real twins or mama. so you've got the twins and they have people like this in this tabby that they have these similar features. some of them added. imagine 90 percent, some 70, some may be 60 percent. it said that just depends visitation, we would choose these more objective programs. this official uh, algorithms to really tell which ones out of the closest um it depends and that, that look like that they share 70 percent of the share of 60 the other shit, 80 percent. the advance of each couple. i'm as an anti. what would you like us adults, estella? now that you have in p and he's been studying duffel gang is empty. i'm actually stop. okay. okay. um, i just want to know what the deal is because like i said, it looks, you know, we just,

we help some of that kind of some parts of the lifestyle are the same as well. so what are those views that you do? because so when it says that the, yeah, yeah. so this should be interesting question because at the beginning of our experiments, we wanted to know what's more important than what you had is from your parents, what you do in your life, your life of style. okay. and it looks like it's for the face is not the most i live in, is what you excited for your, from your parents, your genetics at this moment of, of time. but maybe when these look like they age, they started to the bench at this 1st of them, because then you have more time that i think they, they doing the lives that contamination is smoky and that they prefer food that they eat, that set to be able to model a to the different features of the face and pay your your moms, your mothers look quite similar. yes. um

they do look quite similar. oh, i don't know if a mess would agree with me on that, but it's, it's something that i've explored about for a very, very long time. and i think that that is actually where our, our similarity sort of comes from. you know, what is the yes they do, they do look like the set of guys. yeah. it because we, we found that the main reason, the incentive for the vision that they look like usually the genetics, the body ations in the dna that they have. this is the bottom of what status they came from, our father and our mother. so make a make up of sense that some of the of their mothers, they look at like i'm so what i find fascinating, charlie and michael is that from your estimate groups, you'll completing a different you've got

a different sort of heritage line. and yet i'm looking at both of you right now and you could, you could be brothers. and you thought about the absolutely, yeah. yes. when we did, we did some kind of genetic test a couple of years ago and i was a little bit secretly wishing. oh, that would be so cool. if charlie were my cousin, you know, just, you know, just have like a long word somewhere down in the lineage, but, you know, yeah, it is interesting that we have different, you know, linear jameson. i find that fascinating too because we have seen other couples. i have met other people over the years, even before i found out about this project that we're as exact exact lookalikes as they usually get work is it look like you should get you and it's it's, it's fascinating, this whole doppelganger thing and then have it and my father wants to, i didn't, i forgot about the story. my father told once when i was about 14 or 15,

he saw somebody else's son walk by. he thought it was me. and he said, what are you doing? what we do? what are you doing? and then he realized it was on the lease of the guy that just like on the night. yeah. the paper given entails. now i only need to know how i spell. it says the existence of a double cabinet is a sign that shows that we are a big family. and i want to go to ship ounce who send us in a little story about how he is confused by somebody who is very well known. but the younger version of this very well known pass and how it gets provides this looking what attic is, who it is before we show you. the picture here is in 2008. when obama one, the election people actually stopped calling me by maybe and then said, calling me, i'm a because of the resemblance. and it was much simpler for them. so for from 2008, 2011,

the whole neighborhood knew me as obama. then the picture that i submitted to algebra fund story, it was that the, you know, girl, a national debate competition in uganda in 2019 where we were debating primary education with parliamentary is it actually became a mean and uh, some, some of the members are doing well, like obama grace dust, with his presence at this competition. i can seem chuckling without a baby if i'm or not. what do you think? i this is the guy who was like, yes, totally a baby about us. all right, so i'm, i'm, i'm thinking now what do we do with this? i know that you're doing some scientific research based on the photography project to fonts us, we now we will hear about in, from, in just a moment. but what can we do? none from people who look really like us don't trust data. so there are 2 ways of research now that,

that would kind of take one is know for the 1st time looking at the face of someone who can try to inspire to have the information about the genetic sequence. what does the dna and this kind of helping the screening of genetic disorders in to make an editor addiction of his intake. this is just looking at the face. and the 2nd idea is that now you have the dna. does that take my cdl? you can throw a face, make a, got a tune, a bit that got a ton of the face. and this can be useful, for example, in the, in it may be code for the antiques to solve problems, etc. so that the couple of interesting ideas that i would like to work out to it's, it's interesting that i go towards the adult side of brain adults to kind of the idea of solving crimes. what if they called the wrong pass? and what is michael? did he know, charlie, what is the m s instead of every day? i think this is a whole series of night mess. it can happen. a yes. is that a between them that a lot of genetic different and so the word in this case,

you know, 184, find the email saying i agree with you for sure. all right, i'm wondering what we're actually, i'll tell you quick, we will actually, we were on the, um, we were, are they used our picture from francois? it's yes, look or seemed to be book on a paper the these, the was a legal paper around the problems with facial rest of the recognition software and solving crimes out of a i think it was our way, my mary college legal college actually. and it was a whole discussion about how there could be problems, you know, legally with this identification. i know, so i think to me as well, i move sites and ethics don't necessarily go hand in hand. i'm, do you have any concerns? right now, m kay, about what might be happened scientifically with research introductory kind as you, you could be a subject. yes, the best right. um my,

my initial concern is what um other than that just spoke about. my initial concern is, what if something happens and a i get to the wrong you know, by the time you just switch it out, you know, i might have been bad was for maybe 2 or 3 years and i may as well vouch for you. all right, let's i want to put in francois spring. now because a lot of what we've been talking about was really i'm down to find. so i was pronounced photography projects. i'm totally unlikely were in that particular project for that. so i'm gonna awesome about that. but his once was to travel with a well taking pictures of double gang is just what he told us, that he i had this id once to find lookalikes be pulling up the same and bring them together and then do their photo. so that was

a very simple id, and then it became some thing else because after all these years, many, many years, i have 250 pairs of look alike, which means 500 people who agreed to join my project. and before the rough uh by myself, i'm not going to say the project change your life charlie, i'm like, oh, but it definitely made to, i'm happy a to be seen as a kind of twins. let me share a few pictures of how you, how you enjoy, and you'll see a lot of things here. when we hit switch this, i think the just past that was after we had gone through apartments put together, then we went to another part of yeah, yes. all right. the like the beginning to every one of those things to get the mike, what is that experience like some people think like we're playing games. we used to

work out the same gym together and was, it was fun because as work out partners and his friends, we were like, okay, we're going to jump today. what time are we meeting? and people look at us and during my like all, there's a 2 brothers and funny thing happened a couple of months ago. this mass great part of the charlie and i go to every year . i the same with them to do so. i dressed zeus and i did all this here and make up their dresses is great because it's charlie shows up. dress is another great guy which is really fine. but i rest of it. okay, i'm going to bring in one more voice, and this is from the initial psycho analyst who tries to explain why, why it is that we continue to be fascinated through the ages by double gang us issues. i found out i had a double gardner about 25 years ago when people in the local market started to be very nice to me. and it turns out is because a, so i was

a mattress from the sofa. and so i became interested in the phenomenon of the double gun. yeah. because the mit says if you see your topic, i knew you dropped it. and then away this thing that was happening in the market was that kind of, you know, psychic dropping that the soonest. the people found out that i wasn't who they thought i was, i was kind of nobody to them. i was displaced. and so it seems like a place where psychology could explain to me so week ago i and now so i'm to the way of doing the share about the whole gang as do have a double gang, a list of uh, unless this uh, sent me this picture of them together. what have you gained from me thing some of these you look so like, what is it got out of your life? what else do you know? at least you to, you know, so we share so much you know,

how eyes all interests. you tend to be somewhat similar. so i think you know, of the need for my, the perspective for me so, so i'll see you. so give me a let you know how a we go about you might see any someone else misses that. i'm going to leave mr for a few more seconds to tell me what he's got out of knowing you got it. okay. well, um the or similar to what you said we've, we've, we've got similar interest similar business interest, similar development interests for support. the same football team. um, you know, and it says, look at some one really been in the meeting, right? like there's not an evil twin tale, michael. what's the fact most of the thoughts estella?

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