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highest. i mean, ok today on the stream, what happens when climate activists take direct action? let's take a look at a few examples from this year. we're gonna start in february activist in canada, cause of millions of dollars in damage this year at which is open ration on a key work site for multi $1000000000.00 natural gas pipeline project. in march tie extinguishes you want to use in the united kingdom. the state of this group is to make owning su fees in cities impossible,

and they have to say to thousands of vehicle ties around the world. one more example for you. oh, guest. com activists in the south of france, sale gulf coast halls with cement, to protest a what was a bad exemption for gulf queens, a mid, a severe drought saying that economic madness is taking precedence of ecological reason. so in this episode of the stream could embracing climate sabotage, help save our time. i know you've got thoughts, i get your comments section is live looking forward to seeing you in its assignment activity. the files contain upright out stripes. the crowds protests on much to call the progress of the comments to address the same as your price, as the government made a promise, because to keep in action, that's claimants activities. we need to take it there for the to push because the

government dvds to the conference. the problem is that taking that course of action with like we have the exact opposite effect, it would be a gift to the right wing opponents of climate action. who would use it? leverage it for all it's worth doing, celebrate their creeping fascism make the issue politically toxic from our voters arrest a generation of young climate activists and so division in the climate movement itself. joining us to talk about the various degrees of activism when it comes to climate crises. we have hundreds and ms. rena. charlotte get to have a free, if you can in the stream address, will you please introduce yourself to the local audience? tell them who you are. in the connection of 2 days episode, what do they need to know about you very briefly? well, i mean, what else mom, i take human a close, they have to do and university here in sweden, and i guess i'm on the show because i wrote a book on how to blow up the pipeline and learning to 5 and the world on fire, which advocates for sabotage and property destruction and as methods the climate

movement. sh. ready would experiment with now that the situation is so dire and i think what we're seeing right now are the 1st signs of the kind of movement in the global north doing this. and i think more is coming measuring. welcome to the starting. welcome back. i should say, it's always good to have you on board. we introduce yourself to the audience. remind them. who do i want you to? thank you. my name is a single sign on from sedan, on the chair of the un secretary general suit to advise you coupon climate. change an outline that activists for 10 years now. if jackie and welcome charlotte, they say hello to the stream view as around the world. tell them what you day. i a hi, i'm charlotte crab, i'm a claimant, justice activist, and i'm an organizer on the free jess raz team. i'm wondering, charlotte, what point do you abandon diplomacy, climate negotiation, talking to your nemesis perhaps to get the policy makers you know,

thinking about the future and then say i need to take direct action. when does that happen? i mean, i don't think of it as a binary. i don't think you need to abandon, you know, so where that you chose those other tactics and do something like property destruction. i think that we need a diversity of tactics. i think we need policy change. i think we need legal challenges. i think we need direct action. um, you know, i think that would be the most successful way is using a variety of tactics yet, using tactics needs to do a cost benefit analysis. you always need to see are calculate how much benefit i'm going to get from losing this taxes and how much the cost is cost me. and then the tactics cost more. the benefit to bring, then it doesn't call tactic. it just means that it's a failed trial. the address?

yeah, no i, i totally agree with both of these points and i thing the, the purpose of sabotage would be to amass grid or striking, forced for the kind of movement. and so far, we haven't really managed to inflict serious material costs on false, on capital, and that is what urgency needs to happen because the situation right now is that the more the world burns, the more pulse of shoes are poured on the fire. and it just kind of go on like this, and our governments have so far, completely fade and raining in this virtually the moaning force that is balance on burning down the planet as fast as possible. and if governments fame so conspicuously, then someone else has to step in and that's what people around the world are beginning to take action of their own. but i agree that's not a question of abandoning other tactics. it's a question of trying to put greater pressure on government to do what is necessary

because on their own volition of their own accord. and they're clearly incapable of doing that. they have to be pretty, if you have the government has or if you have the government in the 1st place. sure, i mean coming coming 1st, then it's just funny for me to talk about governments these days. so andres, you're, you said something which on top of me, which was inflate, is like getting fixed damage on the fossil fuel industries. so is this in your mind, a bottle? i'm just looking at your book that came out in 2021. how to blow up a pipeline. so it's almost like you're going to the front lines. you're not waiting any longer. the diplomacy and negotiations know because the v you in climate negotiations that have been going on for free decades have for side of the over a constant in increase in c o. 2 emissions. i mean, c o, 2 emissions globally haven't just continued to balloon. one of these negotiations

have been happening year after year. so clearly that's a massive epic failure and the we can wait for for that to just continue forever. it's just dragging out and not doing anything to limits, let alone abolish business as usual. so clearly we have to do something else. i mean, i don't see how you can avoid the conclusion that we have to try something more than what we haven't done so far. it hasn't been enough to wait for negotiators to petition to lobby to march, to demonstrate, to generally ask for politicians to listen to the science. we need to also do something more and that's, that's the face of the climate mover is in the global north. and yeah, i'm, i'm not from saddam, i'm from one of the countries that is perpetrating climate, injustice on people and comforters, likes it on or other parts of the global south. the i'm, i'm active in europe, which is the original cradle of the false out economy where this home climate, the crime began. and here we do have governments and what they do in, for instance,

in norway, the neighboring country here is that they're just a bidding encouraging ever expanding extraction of functions. and there is reason, buddy. but my funny thing, andrea's the funny thing is most of the developed countries or the european countries, projects of oil and gas are actually not happening in, in these countries where you have a legal system that might actually protect the, the activists who do this sabotaging or blowing up the pipelines, it's happening in countries where activist can just be killed for striking in front of the of a forest for example. so that's why when you talk about different tools, when you talk about doing more and i really think of different ways of more defense,

more as a, as, as he may say. and yes, diplomacy is the same thing also as a generation and feeling that setting the planet in actually reaching the point that we want to reach. but if you use the tool wrong, it doesn't mean that the tools have a problem. and if you want to 3 and don't irrigate it, it doesn't mean that the tree itself or the site itself is not proper. it means that you are not taking care of it. and it just to remind all of you and then you go stations or the diplomacy, or wherever is the systems that people created and people should change it as long as it's not working. instead of just trying something else. and i think as someone who's initially this negotiation is right it's, it's just, i excuse me for jumping in here. i want to bring charlotte into the conversation. charlotte, because when we talk about direct action, you know what that is like and you have done it on the happening the precautions.

so this is the of the side is that it's not just, we are going to go out and we're going to slash tires, deflate tires. i feel both golf course, he's with cement to stop the privilege from using will to win the rest of us con. you've actually done that direct action and then what happened to you? yeah, i think i have done different direct accidents as part of the credit access pipeline protest. i had locked myself to hers until drill that was boring under the des moines river, which is a source of drinking water for 40000000 people. and i was trying to do the felony. i served a month in jail. i had to pay because $7000.00 and restitution is $65.00 per day in jail when i was in there. and you know, i'm here to speak on behalf of my friend just who's locked up for 8 years. and i really appreciate it. and the screen, your comment about the very real risks people face with this. like it's exciting to

report those, you know, tactics and i, i think acting outside of where it has been working. it's important that i think i'm here today to speak about the increased criminalization of water protector as you increase criminalization of protestors and power. seeing, especially in the u. s. you know, emerging of the oil and gas industry and corporate interests as well as the government. that's really pretty terrifying. to be honest. this is just to show what is the little tape of jessica resin that check and you can tell him more about her story. but i want i audience to understand that she was doing direct action on a pipeline. and she ended up which company is right now, southern 8 years in prison for domestic terrorism in the united states. it's have a look at part of his story. in her statement, jessica wrote that after exhausting all avenues of process from positions for environmental impact statements and public comment. periods to hunger strikes,

marches, foy cods, and civil disobedience. she took her actions as the last resort items department of justice has declared jessica domestic terrorist sentenced her to 8 years in prison and millions of dollars and finds paid to the pipeline company. her case is important, and it's because it's not unique plus, specifically criminalizing environmental protests, have now been passed to put on the table in most us states. the moment anyone seriously challenges the corporation's freedom to push us closer to the class. the government uses the language of terrorism and they made to disappear. so jessica and, and her friend charlotte, they sabotaged the cook dakota access pipeline via bones. they use the soldiering unit and for that she's stuffing 8 years in prison as a domestic terrorist. is that not a sobering thought in terms of how do we get people's attention? how do we save ops on it if the other side of that this joe time

yeah, so just to clarify, i was not the other person. jessica acted with another woman and that was not me. the actions i spoke about were separate, but it is real and jessica wesley both a domestic terrorist and that increased your sentence. 5 full and she's just served, finished a year in prison and she has an 8 year sentence. she has to pay $3200000.00 in restitution to energy transfer partners. the company that owns the dakota specially shot and it just says that like, it's like, it's no big deal over $3000000.00. how doesn't normal every day individual come up with $3000000.00? and that's a great question. i mean, i definitely don't have an answer to that and i think it really speaks to, um, you know, how high the, you know, the costs of your industry is increasing the risk. so try to intimidate activists

from acting and, you know, injustice case. this isn't random. we know exactly why this happens is this way to clean, motivated in 201784 congress members. and they, for democrats, 80 republicans wrote a letter to the attorney general judge sessions, asking specifically in the wake of standing right protest that people who tamper or impede with cost of fuel infrastructure be prosecuted as domestic terrorist. they specifically mention punctures and valve cause this was also trying to target the valve turner's and then just because the prosecution or label as a domestic terrorist is an exact answer to this letter. so we know exactly why this happens. and those $84.00 congress members who wrote this letter, they received $336000000.00 from the fossil fuel industry. so we know that the false cisco industry is just trying to protect their assets and the government's 3

. submitting to do that address. i think that, yeah, the, the important thing to point out here is that it's fundamentally bizarre that jessica resident check who never harmed an individual, never injured anyone, never killed anyone, is labeled a terrorist when in fact the extraction and combustion of false, our cues are killing people on a daily basis indiscriminately killing civilians, particularly in the global style. this we know for a fact if there is anything here that can be classified as terrorism, it should be large scale pulse on fuel extraction and combustion. obviously the low us are totally skewed. and twisted, so the, the, the, the, the presume terrorist here is the one who tries to destroy the machinery that destroys lives and equal systems around the planet. so now that you can split the

address. so that's got special. got your moral stance on you. why this direct action is necessary, but if you have a young woman who is now serving time as a domestic terrorist does not, is not know a chilling effect and makes you think twice about how do we go about getting people's attention in a productive way with outlining ourselves in prison. yes. and the 1st thing we, we should think about is how do we accomplish the most with out ending up in j. how do we avoid the repression? honey? yeah, well, you should ask the 20 people who destroyed about the cost of gasoline construction site in british columbia that you started off with. because as far as i know, they all evaded arrest, which i think is a great thing. and you can go and, and destroy a site where a pipeline is being constructed and just to get away with it. likewise, i don't know any one of the tire extinguishers who's being arrested. and i think

this is a step away from the civil disobedience protocol of extinction. rebellion and other groups have made it a virtue of a to get the same. yeah. yeah. the part of our action is to almost throw ourselves into the arms of the police and end up in jane. i saw that and i don't know who it was that was that what you were doing because you, you got group top and you did some jail time. did you, can you a quote i mean yes. um, you know, yeah, nobody wants to you and we would change a big piece of equipment so you would definitely gotta get it cool. that was a need to move a. yeah. i mean, i think this speaks to the bigger issue of an escalation of tactics. you know, in that case we and jessica had, you know, jessica ran with the code to use during the permitting process of the army corps of engineers. and you know, i've been a part of so many projects for like we submit comments as part of the statement we,

you know, whole as i o. e, i a statement environmental impact statements. so that's part of the permitting process. um, you know, and so you can do it a civil disobedience outside of a place just that hunger strikes. and so there is like this escalation where you're doing things. and i think the role of direct action in this case can be to highlight an injustice that's taking place in a way that traditional media, such as like an offset or writing. it just can't, you know. and so i think highlighting how high the stakes are, is something that direct action, you know, can really bring to a situation. we bringing a new voice into our conversation, new voice, but an old very well known face. leslie james pickering is a former spokes person for the us liberation front, backing that day. they did a lot of sabotage. and this is leslie explaining what the purpose is. what happens when you'll successfully completing a sabotage, sabotage, emission, have a nice a,

creates the scenario where there is no consequence for bad behavior in a society where there is no cost quite so bad behavior. a corporation can go and cut down a forest and, and polluted and what have you and at the worst, and they get a find that they have no problem paying. and they just go on with business as usual . but after the reparation front step on the scene and you know, they have to stop and think about is what i'm doing. going to upset these environmental as so much that i'm going to be the next target of a large scale are as an attack. i will, my company will burned down and if they are the target of that kind of thing, well, that's going to cost them some, several things. it's cost of some money and some time and some anguish and hopefully caused them to, you know, for you think what, what that, what it is that they're doing always seeing a different kind of climate stuff until now and i guess from chosing decades ago. yeah. yeah. i think the earthly abrasion from that was at its peak and the

1998th did not have a specific focus on climate because this was an environmental listen before climate breakdown have set in. now we have a more strategic uh, i think precision in the sense that we're going after primarily false. i feel infrastructure and luxury emissions along the lines of the driving s u, v as in rich neighborhoods. and i think this is more appropriate for the current moment because the kind of clauses really is, i mean obviously it's just one part of much of broader ecological crosses, but it is the most urgent a problem that we're facing. and then yeah, i expect that will, and i hope that we can continue to have that kind of precision rather than the kind of, you know, general assault on industrial civilization or something like that. yeah,

i'm showing, i'm going to bring in a new voice. i would love you to respond. this is to mom and she is in india. she spoke to us just a few hours ago about a different approach to changing people's ability to act immediately during the time of crisis. here's yes, the majority of the population is struggling to get, but then already battles, the guy sees that the, affecting them so far in autographs with organizations. it's motorboat scape thinking the disability community isn't working on line. so chip center application for the instead of the targeting the or thought of using the call based, which is a much dodger process and is mortgage has shown up thoughts. i mean, i appreciate what tomato said, but in terms of i like what leslie brought in in terms of accountability for these corporations. and like with the case of the dakota access pipeline,

a federal judge came to rule that it's operating a legally. so the permitting, the permits that to cut access pipeline had to go through our legal and it's operating now it weeks multiple times within its 1st 6 months of operation. it's like over 2000000 gallons of is drilling by the into christine wetlands. and that i think is the catch 22 of living and extracted and colonial system, where the only way to stop in the legally built pipeline in a legal way is to let it be built. and then after the fact realize that it wasn't legal to begin with, but at that point it's already built. and so i think, you know, finding ways for accountability for these corporations as important and also not just the corporations, but also the court. and with just, that's what we realize in the appeal process with her was we were challenging the domestic terrorism label. and as part of the appeal process and the appeal was

denied. and the judge is basically, in their, in their decision said that we're building tested domestic terrace was a harmless error. and so what shot, what sound less and you, we learn as an international audience, listening to just the story. is it, is it just that the repercussions us so huge? the items are huge, but it's also, i think, for us this is much bigger than just, you know, and that's why we're worried. this is about emerging of the fossil fuel industry and the government. this is about a threat, i think of in jesse dress. definitely, that's the most. this is the kind of problem that every movement in history that has challenged vested interest has had to face, namely a state apparatus that is totally be hold on to these vested interest. and with that comes to the problem of repression that you end up in junior. but i don't know

of any movement in history that has struggled for him as a patient and has totally evaded the problem of imprisonment or is considerably worse. and clearly, this is the case in congress and the global style to a much greater degree than in the north because it levels summer pressure and a much higher and countries such as in the south africa, not to mention the countries i'm not in america, were environmental activists are killed the on virtue a daily basis. and i think the coming from india made an important point here that the, it may seem from saddam a to as well. and that is that every choice of tactics has to be adapted to the local concrete circumstances. and i'm certainly not arguing that every one, every way action do only sabotage and a baptism magical bullet that would bring us to a role. i'm just a bit of advice. thank you. it's been interesting listening to us by to charlotte as well, and assuring thank you so much for being part of this conversation. so many interesting thoughts here on youtube as well as lean says,

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