say that would also be a separate, potentially large segments discharge from the collection ship. gera baron also says that the metals found on the sea, but there were sent, you know, at least the green transport like electric costs. and then it's better to get them from the than elsewhere. what we have to dispute is, where can we get a secure supply of these important base metals and battery metals with the lightest planetary touch and the lightest human touch. and from our investigation there's only one answer across this debate, the key questions remain. we need to mind the deep sea bed. and if so, can i wait to assure about its impacts on the planet john home and i'll just say to the social media company, twitter has started to remove signage of its iconic blue, but also changing its branding to a new x logo. on monday the x started appearing on the desktop versions of twitter,

but it still dominates across smartphones. my success tweets will not be cold, x is the, the headlines now here on out here. tens of thousands of people are protested in israel, of the parliament to prove changes to the legal system. you measure the lock step, how isabel supreme court to avoid the government decisions it considered is unreasonable. because today we carried out a required democratic move. the move was aimed at restoring a degree of balance between the authorities, which was here for 50 years. we passed the bill of reasonableness, so the elected government could lead the policy in accordance with the decision of the majority of the country citizen. and that there is any court, we're not going to leave that happened if anybody who thinks they have one today

will soon find out that this was a real mistake for everybody. because the direct person responsible for that is the prime minister. he preferred the political needs, a big event and the whims of levine, instead of the security of israel and as royal society and democracy. anyone who sold the minister of defense pleading with the minister of justice realizes how you need a responsible adult in the state of israel. this is not the way to manage the country why he failed. and the government in its entirety did as well come on in the us described the passing of the bailey, as well as unfortunate. the whitehouse said president joe biden has publicly and privately expressed his view. the major changes must have a broad consensus that the full of people have died in wildfires in algeria including 10 soldiers on the fire fighting due to temperatures of 48 degrees celsius and strong winds of fuel. the blazes across the board. the engineers here

while fos have broken out in the north west of the country, hundreds of people evacuated by sea and land and the boy, the village of the new the there's all the headlines and use continues and i'll just air after generation change a lot in america is a region of wonder, i'm joy, tragedy, and yes of violet. but it doesn't matter where you are. you'll have to be able to relate to the human condition. the i've been covering all of latin america for most of my career, but no country is a light and it's my job defense life on how and why. the virgil's look on this and public confrontation, young people across the u. k of putting their bodies on the line to force the

tension on the issues that might such of them. meanwhile, t u. k. government is coming down in protest, it considered as disruptive and anti social with new rules and hostile consequences . welcome to generation change a global series attempt to understand and challenge the ideas that might provides you around. well, today we meet 2 activist. p is different methods to push and nobody's to change. whether it's direct action or engaging with a political system. they come pain or issues ranging from the climb, emergency to mike or light and the play belong straight. the so that to me, you born in canada, to somebody parents that you grew up here in london. what plenty to see the doctors

and see what plans of the seed for me was growing up in the early 2, thousands and the backdrop of the rock floor everywhere you let me do was talking about my firms and talking with people that looked like me and i think that still to me with a lot of anger and kind of confusion and i became quite assess the politics if i didn't engage in that politics is definitely engaging with me in my identity and setting the terms. and i didn't want that to happen. i think people are familiar with the time climate crisis. so climate imagine feed, you've spoken about climate justice. what do you mean when you talk about us for a long time? we've talked about climate change as an environmental issue, right. but climate change is a symptom of a system not breaking down and not working and responsible for a lot of other injustices. so whether we're talking about racial injustice, whether we're talking about the housing crisis,

or inequality at the heart of it is an economy that prioritizes profit and profit for the few. and then is pondering people on time. so we have the same companies who are responsible for the vast majority of emissions are also responsible for poor working conditions and low wages. those are responsible for not paying taxes and who has to pick up the bill people. so when we talk about climate justice, we talk about building a hopeful vision of the future. that means we can tackle other social injustices and the pursuit of timeframe. how much it will be. we would say that there are many sign it movements of the name a way to fight against the climate crisis. say, where did you see a got a new organization green you do rising in june, the rising. we haven't better than analysis of things that the climate movement hasn't necessarily gotten right. one of them is my time limit for

a long time has been white and middle class. and we will know in order to be something as big as climate change. we need everyone as a how do we include everyone's? what if we've built an economy that's the only priority was to serve people on panics. we would have an economy that invested in communities that built last for communities that lived within planetary boundaries because we're investing in renewables and public transport. and that's what we're doing. bring it to a rising as we're talking about the green deal, which is an economic transformation that allows us to thrive in the future and tackle climate change. the other thing that's super different about what we're doing is for political or main tech, take us to find them keys and hold them accountable in terms of challenge them and film them so that we have them on record. and when we put them on line, you know, it's up to the electorate to decide whether these people are for us and against us . there's not much traces, i like to go much. i appreciate one of our most part popular challenges is when we

challenge pretty fatality, the former home secretary who's passing a plan to kind of offshore refugees and migrants to lawanda for processing. and we went to a fundraising dinner. she was hosting an disruptive dot that engaged in the and actually it wasn't viral. and i think a lot of people looked at it and ask themselves, was clements of us talking about migrations? it seems like the rwanda times are just a distraction to get us to be angry at migrants. people who just want better lives in opportunities. instead of being angry at a political class that is just taking more and more from working people and giving us less than return the the

it or your dad is palestinian. your mom is a rocky. so you were born and bred in the u. k. how did your family story and background check your, what would be? well, for my family, we were actually the only ones from both sides of the family to have her come to a western country. so i have most of my dads, how many living in georgia and on and exile, i don't all of my mom's family, we live in, get it right. so when you go pay with that kind of background, it's very difficult, not reflecting your way as a young person. what was your 1st kind of experience of activism and doing the type of work that you do? so i was researching into my university and i said, of the board quite dive estimate of sanctions campaign. i got many students and academics on board and then later went on to replicate the some other universities

. and this really laid the foundations fault for what later was formed as part of sign action. the can you tell me a little bit about palestine action? well, let each one to started. so how about an action? is there a direct talk soon? that what on our main focus on our main target is out, but systems which is as low as largest dom spend i specifically it was thought is because all of the i've been used to bring in alms and ball go between bricks and is where i've had failed and clear things through the political process. so late, but specifically which i was involved in. and when every other route fails, then tie with action was to be left open for us. so we started off by initially storming into that headquarters in london, stay financing acosta. offices and kept going back again and again. and eventually mom, while people joined our, our network. so one of the must have fox 3 is an old and was supposed to. so i must

have lost and they were false to binds and that one that has cost is so for us, we want to continue to grow with this movement until all of our big sites. so shut down in this country. can you explain why is chosen speak, some elvis systems may produce the vast majority of as well as military drone plays . we've seen how this is used on the cops of population of gauze. uh, routinely. they market them as possible tested or compact proof and. and then use that to sell onto, or that rate teams across the wells. they can use it against the people of customers. for example, iraq, afghanistan, and many other places also against refugees here who were trying to seek safety in this country. they also build electronics for the apartheid wall. the same system is being used between us and mexico. so we can see how it starts off in palestine. and as it is used against other people across the wells. can you explain exactly

what risks you run yourself in order to carry this out? we were quite heavily targeted. i think at the start of palestine action, we saw that followed up by res. i'm on our homes, but the co found says include thing arresting. richard bonnet, it's another co found for black come out and this was asked that he said that he would go in hunger strike if the landlords did not fix out. but they did continue to charge several of us 1st that so were facing towards the black mile advocates thursday to collect from the damage and since thursday to back on guessing rest. it is kind of hard to the plan that is not the ends of the process, but i'd say in the call process in itself is an extension of the action. and is why we can try and force his complaints to basically give out information that they would not normally give out. but you are running a real risk ask and you know, status games presents. if this continues to operate in a mall, more lives are going to be taken, and so i'm more than willing to accept the prison. as a consequence,

i will still be a lot better off than most people who have to you at the end of these lessons. to kick things off, i just want to ask in the you k, we've gone through so many big changes. do you think that young people dissolution or do you think they all politically engaged? active, what's your opinion at the moment? i think both, i think young people are, does this illusion that i'm one of them? i'm but we are also political. i think we're in this period, we're actually social activism and social movement. i've never been more active and imaginative, but it's the political elite and you know, look toral politics, but i think is what's the solution in young people because we have a look toral system in a voting system. not a is not representative it, but also was people were sold auction, they want their economy to work for them in their communities. they want action on

climate change. they want investment in our public services. the only reason we survived the pandemic were pete because of front line service workers. i thought we all agreed during the pandemic, that those are the people that should be at the heart of our communities. they are the people that we should be investing in. and the only reason that and bold action is because we still have in place political leaders who somehow haven't caught up with a consensus. the fact is, is that many young people are the solutions with a political system, but i think a way more political than, than ever before because the political system, i mean like told politics has failed. so many people and i think it's a situation of call been and leave as well on a lot of young people into poly politics and they felt like that was a very cool change. and when that didn't work for myself, at least it opened my ours to realizing that we cannot afford to invest our time into a system that wasn't designed for us. but that doesn't mean that there is

a ways that we can be politically active and change our society from the grassroots rather than through, appealing to the powers that be to create those changes for us. i mean, i would say that i don't see social movements being successful unless they have a political weight. and so it's not about whole, so giving up on october, all of them are politics. it's about trying to use the power of social movements from the grass roots to kind of course that change and we, we see it happening around the world actually enlighten america. we're seeing the hopes of that sort of political wing of progress, the politics starting to take power. you know, if you look at your life, for example, and while we had that defeat in 2019 with carbon sleeper, i do see, you know, i'm present maddox. it's enough to see that there is another way into power. we just need to build stronger movements, a faithful climate change. it may be slightly different and you're right, you do needs a complete overhaul of the system which will require the state and the government

to get behind it. but i think when it comes to imperialism and politics and support and the policy and people then jamie colburn was an exception. i believe for what we've had for the past 100 years of successive governments, and no politician in this country has ever shut down an alms back today. whereas people have faith if you'll naples all quite young and they were founded around 2019, which was just the full of the bible pandemic. and then, you know, we've had the war in ukraine when you look at one of those issues on the outside. how do you think they've impacted your what i'm, what you're trying to achieve. so we started at an interesting time in 2019. um, it was a time when it was kind of the kind of activism around climate change. i don't think i've ever seen before. you had, you know, extinction rebellion we had to climb a strikers. you have the u. k. announcing the 1st sort of net 0 target by 2050 in the world. and then early in 2020, a pandemic came,

people are suddenly talking about government intervention. we're talking about investment instead of austerity. we're talking about building back a better, a not going back to the economy pre pandemic. and coming out of the pandemic, we have the korean war, which put stressors across europe, particularly on energy supply. and what we saw was the u. k. a. now it's new north sea oil and gas. and that's put us in a really difficult position because investing in new fossil fuel infrastructure doesn't help us meet our me, our energy needs now. and it doesn't lower energy bills, but also just puts us in perpetual crisis because the climate crisis is not going anywhere. who the id feel about all of the big events that happened recently is and how that directly impacts what you're doing. yes sir, for some context we launched at the end of july 2020. and then in may 2021. this is when we saw a boot and the solitude people have gaza, people being forced out the homes and in jerusalem. and we saw

a massive increase and people following and joining public time option and supporting the cause. during that time, there was a factory and full activities had climbed onto the top of the reef, all set fox 3 in less the and move in a couple of hours. hundreds from the local community came out support. it was like today. and then we saw the fire service pull out and says and refused to say it's the place that we will not meet these protesters. so for us, it was about go straight to these arms companies, specifically out but systems and bypassing the political process. and that strategy also expose the fact that this company exists here because many alms companies, they kind of hides in plain sight in these factories and industrial towns that you wouldn't know if this is as well as between that one. and the one next, all which bills tories for children. and we found it to be extremely successful

where it was before we had never seen that type of success and full thing. the closure of is really arms factories in this country. 2022. so people across the u. k facing flooring place and, and a rapidly rising cost of living prices that plus prices and strikes in $1.00 industry after another from 30 still and transport work has fidel cuz annoyed so i want to know what break if you think about how far it is that you should be able to go in terms of guessing your points across. i think it's different for different movements. so for the change strikes on is the bread and butter. so in order for them to gain the right to mass salary, the device that they deserve as well, cuz then it's necessary for them to disrupt the tray line. i think paula said action is quite different though to was extinction rebellions tactics. mainly

because expansion volume is more focused on disrupting at the public as a whole, as a way of posting pressure on the government in order to enact that they, they radical change. it needs on the climate. whereas for us, we are more focused on directly disrupting the companies we talk with using weapons . so that was less impact on the public. i was, i would just decide that all usually by this time action goes a step further, then extinction. rebellion smashing up. yeah. conference rooms causing damage to the property. so how do you justify that? well, what smashing up an honest company, west of pink, that ability to produce weapons. and i think many people would agree that you kind of put a price on one human life. you can put a price on a window or a fax or a, a reef, for example. i'm not sure never come at the cost of human life if you saw

a child with us, a human being about to be high and you had to knock down at all in order to help them, you know, cut all it all down without hesitation. and that's exactly the same principle. do you have anything that you would add? yeah, absolutely. i am a student of social movements and we often are to a white washed version of whether it's martin luther king or gandhi, or the women's rights movements. huge parts of those movements took direct action that really did stop daily lives going on for people are politicians. and so we're going to need movement, start, take a variety of different actions, and the fact that we're in a day and age where we think striking workers removing their labor as being extreme . well, who said we have a right over their labor, right? if we're not creating a conditions that are fair for them to work and why should they knocked down their tools? and so i've been really inspired to see the union leaders that have been on our television articulating the fears and hopes of ordinary working people.

in 2022, the u. k. government 14 legislation to combat a disruptive person. now in the public water bill coming through parliament wants to introduce even hoster world. we will also increase a maximum penalty to disruption the motorway. criminal identifies with chance the structure such as roast railways and our repressed and use the please. i'm the quotes new power. it's not a human rights design device processing. it's not mine, freedom of expression to protest fine. and we know you can just stop right or blue yourself to the road and get away with it. quickly exclude these messages to threaten long standing democratic freedom. the government says they are needed because recent protest by a minority of actually this has been dangerous draining public funds. and so i bet he's released resources. what do you think about these new knows and bills and the

effect though have and do you think it will impact the way you move forward? i think people embrace and for a long time is to thank the author are terry and is in was the domain of certain countries when actually, you know, britain has exercised around the world for a long time. and now it's here at home and trying to curtail protest on one side. it shows that we're being impactful because actually the, the government is needing to legislate on specific types of protests. on the other hand, i think a lot of people are worried. i've just seen in spaces when we're talking about protests and thinking about the type of actions that we are timing these bills package are written they factor into who's willing to take these actions. it is an incredibly hostile moment for our movements, but this is the moment we can let them when, because it becomes the new norm and then therefore we're unable to sort of call back any right. so if we let that become something that's accepted that are you

running, those are still ready or running risk of things and to present and how do you feel about all of this happening? because i'm a heart attack, so already based on direct action i'm over the criminalized. the new bills don't affect toes that much, but actually the more they try and repress, i'm put on new laws and you bills. i think the more people actually move towards more radical types of options. we saw recently at the end to monica, a protest, people can invest. it's for just shouting slogans like who elected them. you can face the rest for that. then one of the rest is for shutting down an honest company . i think that what they are, what they've done is go to and by flashing. and how are movements, what the government says that these bills are necessary. because guerrilla tactics used by small minority of protest is of course, disproportionate impact on the hard watching majority seeking to go about that everyday lives. what do you make the argument?

we looked at for the breakdown the climate and, and in order to get the message across that forced into a situation where they're forced into blocking the general public, then it's for the great tickets. i think when people take more drastic action, it's in response and wrong, and i'm blaming those activists. we have to blame the government who didn't act fast, just to be kind of illuminate a bit more we did. we did an action over the summer where we disrupted the hot springs of the conservative party who were trying to choose their new leader. and i disrupted the speech of less trust. the her reaction in that moment as i was being dragged away, was like show that militant activities such as extinction, rebellion know, table to disrupt ordinary people. what caused the, the right thing, a guarantee what they want to create a situation where the government of the day decides what they think is fair,

what they like. who are the good guys, who are the bad guys? democratic societies don't work like that. democratic societies are wanting to allow for there to be debate that allows for people to have different opinions for people to organize and help determine that their future. and we're slowly sort of looking away from that kind of society, them into one that's governed by a few. if you could take a step back and imagine the world that you want to see, what is it that you want to see the future? like you, my m a u k, i one a, a future where we have the sort of democratic renee. so some people are able to be involved in decision making. and that decisions as a society are based on what benefit people and benefit planner over process. you know what the timeline of climate change wants to, gary? i think we have opportunity in this window to make sure that the way that we tackle the climate crisis is one that has just to set its heart. but there is a risk,

right? i think governments will find a way to tackle climate change, but it's not secure that they're going to do it in a way that's fair. i think everyone now believes climate change exists and the main stream, the fight is over, how we tackle it. and we wanna make sure we tackle it in a way that protects our communities. what by you had, i mean your future might involve time in prison. but if you would kind of imagine that the seats that we're going to pay off, how would it look? well, i think the of the 1st $1.00 would be and i'm to as well as arms chase and dress. and i bought for many people or rather glad as london was largest export yvonne's more of a tiny island as was so much roots back to here. so if it has a mass of overhauled, of that whole industry for that kind of thinking and tactics to be transported to other countries. and then i believe, you know, hopefully within a lifetime we can see if we palestine before that to happen. we need sanctions and

the government's own going to do it so the people have to do it themselves the 1st month. thank you so much for speaking with me today.

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