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the impacts upon the city and suffering daily is rarely proved tennessee. this is inside story, the hello and welcome to the program. i'm adrian. instead of going months and months, the biggest protests israel has ever seen yet they couldn't stop the front right government, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu pushing through a little to weeks in the supreme court. it's judges can no longer overturn government decisions. they considered to be unreasonable. opponents from across is where the society say the ministers can now do what they like. some say it will enable nothing yahoo to stop his own prosecution on corruption charges supported say that legislation will stop traditionally interference in politics as well. trumpet sits, democracy of argues with itself over the little or what does it mean for
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palestinians living on the constant depression? we'll be discussing this in a few moments without guess. but one thing that is, agreement on this issue is left israel deeply divided. i'm a little show up with the to say to the all positionally disease can continue to argue on fights, but you can also do something else. you can reach agreements about what to do next . let's come to an agreement. this is my quote to you, and i extend my hand to quote, for peace and mutual respect. the monks, us shall. again, it's impossible with this governments to reach agreements to safe got democracy. what they want to do is to dismantle the country security and the unity of the people of israel and our international relations. there is no way to continue to deal with them. let's say it out from our correspondents. but of smith's who's in tel aviv while they've been purchased now for 29 weeks just over 29 weeks against dispute issue with home. and when these protest started, people felt suddenly those against the reform felt that this was
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a potentially existential threat to israel. a country that they believed had been founded with the idea that different branches of judaism could live coexist peacefully and tell a vive, you have this more liberal secular bobo, essentially an island in the middle of one has become a much more conservative country, and the people we've been speaking to the protest as we've been speaking to i saying they don't show how they can continue, how these country can to continue to co exist. when the government that is in charge in that opinion seems bent unimposing. these essentially religious based laws and they see this is a few to the risk in the future of living in a country that is more ruled by religious law than by secular loyal. we've had the doctor's group, a workshop group set up for doctors looking for ways of leaving the country. we've had the i t sector suffering from a lack of investment over fee is of the future direction of the country. so yes, that they know most stresses and strains on his riley society and they will
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continue in the coming months as an, as people decide how to, to approach this new law. what will be an appeal to the supreme court? will a supreme court decide to issue a ruling on this new law or will they just ignore it and say we caught into fear there are many, many more difficult and challenging questions to be answered in the months to come . that will put even more stress on these riley society. so what does this noodle actually mean? it prevents the supreme court from overruling government decisions, but it considered as unreasonable israel has no written constitution, but judges of always been able to review government decisions based on public interest. this will no longer be the case that if the far right coalition government is able to vote in the remaining traditional changes, it will have more control over the appointment of judges. so let's bring it out. i guess for today's discussion,
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we're joined from heifer by diana butcher, a lawyer and full the legal advisor to the palestine liberation organization from kennedy, judy molds, senior correspondent for the hot. it's these paper, she's been closely following the processing as well. and also joining us from haifa, pass on jeopardy and lawyer, and found the of a dial up the legal sense of the arrow been, or she writes it. israel, he's litigated land constitutional cases before these where the supreme court on behalf of palestinians a warm welcome to you will dining. let's start with you is israel headings was dictatorship in a dictatorship when it comes to felt it is so i think it's very important to keep in mind that, that we're talking about changes to the judiciary, judiciary that has never really served the interest of palestinians, or this ever put any checks and balances on these really government when it comes to palestinians. this is the supreme court that has allowed for torture.
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palestinians is the supreme court that has allowed for the destruction of palestinian homes. it's a supreme court that has green lighted the construction of settlements, the construction of the wall. all these measures that are illegal and for boston in this has always been a dictatorship and will continue to be a dictatorship. the question now is whether there will be anybody that will stop in and actually recognize it for what it is and do something to stop israel. and i'm afraid that it won't, judy, what do you make of that kind of the state of israel? so my, this crisis will or policies eventually be forced to come to the table and the go see a way forward here. i'm in the law has as possible, right? so, so what, what a compromise looked like? well, i don't see there being a compromise on this particular law right now, even though prime minister benjamin netanyahu went on television last night few hours after it was passed and said, basically,
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gas lighting the public that he's open to compromise after it's all been passed. this is, it's important to remember that this is a law that was passed yesterday and these rarely parliament is only one part of a big package that the government has been trying to get through since january this government, which is the most religious right wing. and the stream is government in israel history and the 3 other parts it is not managed to push through and that is fast to the protest movement. it is the biggest, a popular uprising in his rally history. and one thing i'd like to say is, i think bass, thanks to this protest movement. many israel leaves who previously ignored the occupation did not think about it per preferred not to
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look beyond the green line. are starting to understand it's a slow process, but it's starting to think and that all these things are correct or connected and that the forces who are promoting the occupation of the settlement are the same forces that are behind this government plan to undermine democracy with in the green line. so what do you make of, what do you just said? would you agree with that? the, i see the, the now of the status is status. so i'm gonna see is in the, at both sides. so maybe you are inside of a drive that it makes you might just might this is lee. yea, this, this wouldn't be worse than now. why? because uh, it's too bad. it's really cool kinda to be done and i wanted to see the
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rise in the side of your mind. and now we do use the, the, the, the, the major issues that you have to a senior there. what kind of decision god then is she on? is there anything about it since the way it gets it you said it is? and it did show me in one case against all the version, not actually c s t, i call on the end of the night. so for the cd i'm going to get inside is and i also am awesome. this is in the last 10 years we're mostly denying because this will be all righty, began as it was, have more in the last in the years. i'm more likely all this is do is shouldn't be this one second we can say, yeah,
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we can see exactly the same before i start because i've seen yes is that week is funny because time in this, the, the, and this the, the, this issue is i want to see if it's just, i guess, maybe a boss mass situation wouldn't be this the changes if you live in the climate that's not as high as the and decide hey, this is yvette english is understanding his, the should w and the buyer should be there this is the situation on this, please give us a new window that we can address the address i see. see
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is that all the is the judiciary house. there is no need to, to, for, right. so we need to do every. now, this is gonna show that there is no, i can do it. it has the $400.00 easy, the filters, the mouse and uh, the, the, the listing will get onto the international community reaction and an a how they could intervene in a few minutes. but 1st i even if within israel, some sort of compromise could be found to diffuse this crisis with far right? policies having moved from the, from the margins to the center of power. how long before something like this is going to happen again. i don't think this will be something that i need to clear your agent to you know the. ringback has been the. ringback man that has been
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rising and power. busy busy for decades now, and it's been a rise in power because it's never seen a red light. it's never seen a red light from the international community. and it's never seen a red light from which is rarely society itself. the smell of society has been permissive. when it comes to settlement, the settlements are so much part of the landscape. now. it's really soldiers don't think twice about going and shooting house and even kids. it's just so ingrained in the occupation selling range inside israel and the settlement movement has the come in bold and the students show reform overall, whatever it is that you want to call it. this process actually is not new began back in 2009, 2010. and the reason that again was because they didn't want to see the right. we didn't want to see anybody putting the brakes on any is really activity they wanted to make. sure that the settlements to continue to enroll,
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that is really actually be on track. and that's where we are today. so unless we get to the point where it's really, society is not just recognizing the connection between these 2 additional overall process and the occupation, but actually doing something about it. not just going out and comp testing, but actually demanding an end to the occupation. i'm afraid that we're gonna continue to see this type of legislation go forward. ringback this is now one of the largest blocks that exist within these rarely elect to read and is only. ringback genuine to grow because it has never seen a red light from anyone around around the world around the country. judy, just to play devil's advocate for a moment, there are others who would argue that the spring cool is on elect to delete. they take decisions along liberal lines and not according to the weight. many people in israel sync or votes to the last 4 says it's long overdue, it's. it's,
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is it simply the way in which it's been done and the make up of the government that is implemented? it's the people are upset about here and not the rationale behind it. i think that that is the way it's been done that has upset people. you will see a lot of people ask the protest this particular, particularly people from the right wing and israel, the more moderate right way. who will say, i also believe there is room for improvement. for example, many people believe that the, the supreme court court is to, um, asking oddly to elite is that they are not a not represented 2 of these raw stages or the arabic society in the supreme court. um, and i think a lot of people what might agree with that and probably do it was the way they went
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about this. the fact that this was never an issue in the last election campaign we had to elections on november 1st. this was never an issue really clued around on a campaign of a more security lowering the cost of living. no. talk about a judicial overhaul or reform for whatever you want to call it. so i think it's the way that you did it. it was this added to, oh, we finally have enough people to create a full right wing government. we don't need the last, we don't need the center. and now we can do whatever we want, which is not democracy. but of course, just one photo to what extent is is nothing. yeah. who really in the driving seat
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here was he writing a roller coaster that he can't control? now having full the coalition with these extreme right wing political groups as well. some people will tell you now that he, he really is out of control, as you probably heard, he's just not well physically right now. he just had a pace maker put in and that was a week after he passed out that claiming to have been the hydrated. and if you look at him he, he doesn't look to be a very good health right now. um, and yesterday he basically capitulated there were there was talk of a possible compromise that could have prevented all of this. and he basically capitulated to the very, very, very far right fringe of his government warned him that if he did not go through with this legislation, they wouldn't go out and he was afraid if they wouldn't go out there would be
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a new letter election. but most of us know how bad his far right and partners. they have no alternative either. it's not like they're going to hook up with the left or the center gear, employment alternative government. they need him just like he needs them. um is he on control? i, it doesn't look like it right now, but we have to remember that she is the person she knew what she was doing when you are pointed. some of these extremely radical extreme is characters to very, very important positions. and his cabinet. he had to let me know that how's that? let's, let's talk more about the impact this new little will have on, on palestinians living on the constant is really oppression. it's going to make it easier for the government to pursue policies. but the home palestinians, isn't that, and of course probably studies when be able to mount challenges in the supreme court. what does that matter given to the court? i so rarely come down on the side of palestinians. anyway. yeah we,
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we noticed in austin the use that to the scene in cases inside of a lot of the mostly denying cases. all of the cdn is entire. yeah, i do that as long as we go, by the way, it has been strongly in the last duties a lot that can be a 3 or 3 more. wanted to call in this in deciding the honesty in cases meaning the more the call that on. so what's the order because of its decision on the, on the slide, the guys knew that many of the cases where the laser, as we are past, due, as far as we want to be seen and to see as well as the now i,
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that's what i liked we also want to be at the right way. the way i do this i gave the status of as i said before, we speak of all the society that discrimination this society. i use the cdn is institutional. this long. steve has no eyes. all have to be here. this is the last in the years boss. we are going to be in that situation in our penny for all that. yes. because we already let the situation all, what is the kind of cool part of that deciding our is based on where there is a situation with know what the situation is. easy. uh uh, maybe we,
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what do i see is this of us, what is it all this will be or j all of these days when i feel that i can see that this will be for 3. uh, yeah, the $80.00 cases. i most cases that i bought the, the see, the city is a nation. all, i can use it all the way i have this the so before accepted use cases. most the fabulous. i want to make sure that that is the goal is where the cdns want to be in this is because i know because i produce the desired with the, the c s p, i say the legal side knowingly
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that and this is the joint shots when for doing these issues because the law is the image initially and didn't want to fix it on the as the scene is expired, we've the course we wouldn't be the c c. i see that all. this is all as a cd is c as well. except it was all the services me to the desired that there, there is
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a this is that this is the sign the oh, must see the size of the business. i'm sorry to interrupt you a but the time is tight here. so i just want to put a question to diana, where's the palestinian leadership and all of this white? why so quiet. wow. wow. yeah. which is actually the end of the day. it concerned us, you know, when you of the house and in who is living in this. ringback are asked to go to protest and c, a c of is really flat. this is the very slide of our oppression and the harvest possession. it's the flag that is put on the flag that is used when, when the houses are destroyed, it's the flag that was what that gets long over at destroying villages. this is not
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something that house and he is want to be part of because this is an internal debate. they have to figure out for themselves. yes, we have to talk to the. busy affected because for the most marginal of marginal groups. but at the end of the day, we've been affected by this now for 75 years. and the idea that somehow i'm supposed to protest in favor of democracy when i, as upholstered in, i've never seen a day of democracy or day of self determination living as a house. ringback in under is really military rule is not only wow, but it's actually kind of offensive. i think at the end of the day, the bigger issue is whether the international community is going to get involved. and one thing that has been clear is that it's really been a country that is always trying to look as though it's legitimate. and so it's based on legality. and now we see that it's neither legitimate nor based on the gallery. and now is the time for the international community to stop in and
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actually do something. this is why and how soon it's been calling for boy, israel, because we see that it's not legitimate. we see that it's not legal. and the only means that should be you. ringback it's actually ostracized in 0, something by the way, that farmers really prime ministers are now called for as well. yeah, judy, a president bible cool, the passing of the bill. unfortunate given the range of threats and challenges confronting as well right now. it doesn't make sense for us really lead us to rush this. the focus should be on pulling people together. i'm finding consensus. he said ahead of the vote. and yet they passed it anyway. just the opinion of the us president, but a lot of the military age and supported provides count for nothing and his release days to the counselor. nothing i guess as far as the baton yahoo is concerned. but in this regard, i want to say something interesting that i've noticed for the 1st time at the pro
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test and this is something you would have never seen. and before are symes, that is really is are holding up asking biden to make american aid. the continuation of american aid conditional. i'm not a ton yahoo throwing out the screw to show overhaul. and i'm telling you that this is, this is the feeling that is shared by growing numbers in the progress of camp and israel. that it would be such a bad thing as americans. couple a now is that is this thing that could towards natania whose hand do you think that's going to happen? of course i think that this is uh amenities and how do we create uh,
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hopefully i also see all is the the what i have. so we'll go to the all goodness, i think if we change the, the, the song of the ask the. ready the kind of consciousness, the fact that the nouns many, many, many rules, no, we have that in the community is see the change in 10 of us in the us. the lead to the, uh, the region this, the c r o o o l g i g, a existence of this, the, the i certainly see that it's on the also as i see, i'm sorry,
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i'm sorry again to cut you off to an hour ago. we put about a minute left. one final question, do you have what, what, what judy was saying you were talking about the time for international intervention is, is now and judy was saying that, you know, people want to make a aid. usaid conditional upon nothing. yahoo doing the right thing of it. how should the international community intervene? who should be intervening people? i think it's real fast that they're now looking at this with concern and we hear that these people are also making the same call means that, that the environment has right to hold israel to account. they can do so by opposing side conjunctions to can do so by going cutting this government. we set it from that since the beginning, when this government was 1st selected, including based on the individuals who were there, and yet the world continues to say thoughtless. ok, there is a time now. ok that many thanks to date. thank you to you. old unable to judy
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mullins and hass on jeopardy of being with us today. as always, thank you for watching. you can see the program again by going to the website that out as 0. don't com for further discussion joined us with our facebook page. you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash h a inside story. and of course, you can join the conversation on twitter, handle of age right inside story for me, adrian said again, and the team here. and i will see you again, bye for now the the, [000:00:00;00]
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