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haven't received putting all the russians for 3 months in such odd times. the people think that they attack on them and call the barracks on the revolution that sparked was, was his opinions divided. they could not seeing as the thing done. i was born in the 1960, i'm going to try him from the revolution. i became professional. my family didn't have to pay a penny. so for me it was worth it by way of suffering a lot today. but it was worth it that i don't know the sound feature things is wrong to celebrate. when i say many surfaces, like i say, the setting the point of independence and revolution if there's hung up the scarcity of goods and of public health is getting worse. i'm a teacher and with teaching without results, and it's really hard to raise a child. i'm not counter revolution ray, but i'm not blind either. in this city long considered the best place for the revolution. prolonged hardship is causing into government support at augusta and how does that sound to you over the course of the
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this is alice has 0 here at the top stories. a qu, attempt is under way and the west african nation of new share. witnesses report? the news re, vehicles have been blocking the entrance to the presidential palace, access to ministries next to the palace had also been blocked. the head of the african union has called on soldiers staging the code to stump immediately. kenny is opposition. party has suspended a call from nationwide protests, instead of asking people to hold vigils for those killed and anti government demonstrations. opposition leader railroad didn't get accused police of vitality and says he's filing charges with the international criminal court. president william route. so tweeted his willingness to talk to it didn't go one on one. earlier i spoke to rhino didn't good and he told me he's ready for talks. but said that president william router's offer isn't serious. i think you know, the 1st that really loves me serious. he wants is amazing to me, would know to invest me through
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a lot of or through a social media. he knows my address and knows my telephone number and everything is busy, but it does appear in games. does this like a public positions exercise to ship the carrying 3000 cars has caught fire in the north sea. at least one crew member has been killed and several others badly wounded. some more forced to jump overboard. i'll stay north coast of another lens . it suspected that an electric vehicle may have sparked the fire oil is finally being pumped from a super tanker which has been stranded in the red sea for 8 years. engineers plan to transfer a 1000000 barrels of crude from the software, to another tanker over the next 3 weeks. one palestinian has been shot dead and at least 2 are reports of the injured officers. really forces stormed in refugee camp and novelist that's in the occupied. westbank is really army,
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says it arrested 37 palestinians and raised on tuesday nights in bethlehem, in hebron and in numberless all right, those are the headlines on al jazeera up next. the stream to state you a one day i might be covering politics major. i'm actually on my share of i post all things from serbia. it's a hungry. what's most important to me is talking to people understanding what they are going through so that i can convey the headlines in the most human way possible . we believe everyone has a story worth hearing, the science and the ok. a welcome to the screens. new documentation, new york times about the options brittany space takes a look at how, how nice and not to send music became entertainment. so only look if you're feeling
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the show on youtube, you know what you can do. just jump into the comment section because what we're asking wrestling with is warranty song, media outlets treat we mean in a specific way. and how does that impact people? who aren't even celebrities? that's the conversation. but you want me to be called medias treatment or britney spears is complicated. at 1st the media treated her like a got it was because she embodied a stereotype of sexual desirability. so blonde, so turned it full up. she was a living therapy. that was a powerful and problematic message in and of itself. on the other hand, the media treatment of her mental illness was savage and datsuns, a powerful and damaging message, especially to girls and women too. that there's something shameful or stigmatized about mental illness. that people who identify it as female can't recover from such illness, and that you should either be perfect as the media define it,
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or your school men are treated that way to stand by. so i knew all conversation already had to me. so i guess the so ready for this conversation to have i have no to you came hello sachi. hello wendy. really good to see. you can tell our audience for you. well, i'm what you do. hi, my name is kim carmen, and i am the former senior director of marketing jobs records. i was pretty serious is marketing director for 1st for all phones at the labels. and i've been in the music business for a little over 30 years, having perfect universal music, sony music and warner music with various artists from the rolling stones to lead southland to go is nice to have the thank you for being with us today. and i start to introduce yourself to an international audience. sure, my name is actually cool. i'm
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a culture writer for breast feed news based out in new york and the brittany stan as we all should be. and i'm also the author of the aptly titled when they will all be dead and none of this will matter. thank you for being with us brittany stein and wendy. well, kevin, to the stream, introduce yourself to ask us. thank you. my name is wendy williams. i am the president of the society for the psychology of women, which is a division of the american psychological association. and i am also the dean of a school of education here at mills college. guess i want to start with a rolling stone magazine commerce in 1999. i really want to get your instant take on this. i know you seen this before. when did you stop? what are you seeing here? 6, you know, bring me. i see a sexualized girl who is merging and merging those notions of being sexual but also just be and i just seen a girl and how you know,
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the private spaces that girls tend to have and can have in their homes to be made public in the ways that she knows that you're looking, but it's also engagement activity in which it's truly likely that most people wouldn't be looking on a girl in her room, perhaps on the phone at home. so if you, what do you see in that? certainly same as rolling stone cover. yeah, i agree. it's complicated because it's hard for us to know exactly how much control that she had over that kind of imaging at the time she was very young. i have some for myself, i mean will not cover came out. i mean, it was like 10. and so it was also really enticing and confusing and there's something that you wanted to be a part of that you didn't know how and you didn't really understand how, how your sexuality worked and what it meant and what the power structures were. and it's very complicated the can you take us into the room?
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well, the slice of the conversations with a 16 year old is put on a magazine cover, like a said was magazine call them. and those conversations are happening. and that is a good decision making process help us understand how that happens. well, i was there for this particular color. i was working a job at the time of this was to promote part of the end of for the 1st salvo. and it was a cover that was shot by david la chappelle, who everyone knows is the same as photographer. there are bits of control that really she had, but it was really up to rolling stone. and to the top refers, she actually has very little control, nor does the labels have any control over the styling attack photo shoot the photo . she took place actually app reviews home in louisiana, and the set was built against that backdrop. but it really kind of took on
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a life of its own and many of us as a label liked to many of us students, my personal feelings about it for that. i really disliked it intensely because it really didn't reflect too. i knew christie was. and i thought that it was kind of creating a tangent in her career and her image that really didn't need to happen. and so unfortunately we were left with it that this was the cover. yes, it's like on it. but as far as what i see and if i see a character to when did you decide why did you just side by side? because i think that what we're experiencing and seeing and seeing that that image is the tension that our culture has around sex and what our culture, that tension our culture has around sex and the ways in which we supplant that in place on top of children, particularly girls and girls of all black backgrounds and the ways in which grows
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of diverse backgrounds are treated similarly and centralized similarly. but also how that sexualization is handled differently and watching that happen over time. so just hearing the, the background story that it actually was in our home, but also the tensions that folks were having around. how to portray that and what types of energy use were sort of centering and what type of motivations were service entering their different decision making about that? i don't know where that control data did not lie. it seems to me that seems to me that the tension around the, the questions are, are our, our society has and particularly, or us society has around stack and sexuality and youth. and young people really comes to bear with that decision making process on youtube. we have student cut that i'm going to give the students question to use that to you call to exploit somebody who want to knowledge save somebody is being exploited that allowing it
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sachi do not have to agree with this. kobe, the bills are, that's going to absurd. it's absurd, it doesn't, it doesn't take into account like $0.70 a pound, quotation words name, we women and girls. i mean, it's just if that is not true, you know, sometimes you don't know you're being exploited until later. and, and, and frankly, i don't know if that's the case here. i don't know, that still sort of suggests that i understand something about britney spears, that she herself wouldn't know she's and told us a lot. so i don't think i can make a lot of sweeping generalizations like she was going to be a party to her own exploitation. i think that's absurd. no, she wasn't. she didn't see exploitation. and so as you say, after the cover came out, i think everyone was kind of taken aback. and i think that you are correct when you say not in control. she was
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a 17 year old girl. this was her 1st cut. her story was rolling stone magazine, being shocked by this very famous, very infamous photographer, david marshall powell, who was known for specializing all of his subjects and everyone was defined or if he was doing this and she was thrilled just to be on the cover of rolling stone, but after it came out with the teletubbies in her arms, i mean there was all this innuendo. no one really saw that that was a brilliant piece of arch. it was seen as exploits i would put in the voice of professor lisa peacock products. and she outlines the idea of we have the celebrities, they reach a peak, and then somehow that peak then descends into some awful kind of tragedy. this is how the systems they don't have in this media. both helped to create brittany
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spears and destroyer. the depictions allowed well men to sexualize her and prompting young girls to want to be just like her. her downfall was really treated like reality show that we were all watching in real time. and the media depictions of brittany's helped women that their social value was implicitly tied to their body. but more importantly, once their sexual capital was no longer a commodity, the world no longer how to use for them. when do you stop in such a you pick up for a while, you know i, i think that that is just so, so spot on in terms of the messages that women get about their using usefulness and the messages that we crap and, and, and disseminate to young girls very, very early, and it's a very different type of messaging than we crap and,
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and set up and, and share with young boys about who they are, what their bodies are, how their bodies already use with their for. and so i, i can completely see that. um, i have a lot of thoughts about it. however, because the story about brittany happened 20 over 20 years ago. i'm thinking a lot about the ways in which media is not just power, right. see or media happening or toward someone, but also the media that we make of ourselves and put up there. so, you know, i had a reaction to the question that thought she responded to by the, the, the youtube community member, the blaming of someone. yeah, the blaming of a child and i think that there's, there's the blaming of a child. but i also think that what is being blamed and what is being demonized a bit. is that child's ambition, which i watched a documentary and i was really proud and excited for her to go for her dream. and the idea that going for your dream means that you are said to be subjected to the very sexualized violence. and i would say that there was a sort of public sexualization of the type of violence terms of the chasing her
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down the chase and capture to chase and capture of images. but also the capture in spaces of mental vulnerability at, at peak times of the stress for her as a young mother. and as a young person, i'm just completely profound. and so the ways in which that sort of is on display, in the documentary, and in some of the images that we now have an opportunity to look back on this is quite profound. such a go ahead. there's something so strange about the way that we're looking for responsibility in this topic. so it's like we all want to find who we can blame for this and it's never ourselves. so even in that question, you know, can you be excited for her involvement? well, we have to read it to her. i mean, we can see that we liked it, we want it more of it. i mean, you know, about traditional media and pop her up the and stuff like that. i mean, that would not be an ecosystem that was successful,
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had we not consumed what they were producing. so to act as if like, it's just her fault or it's just the, the outlets that are reporting on her this way. it's not, it's something that is meaningful and super complicated and later and we're all a party to it. we're pretty standard worse. so that's mostly in the mail for years and keeps giving us a few things i want to show you here. and these are some of the big academic studies that are being done about the impacts of when young goals and actually we mean, see celebrities portrayed in this way. the sexualization of goals, this is from the a p a task force, the 6 i shouldn't, the gals is linked to come on mental health problems and goals and women eating disorders, no self esteem, depression, and a task force reports, american psychological association. one more here. this is from us, so the indicate this is a global issue. i want to bring
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a melissa hudson. i know i'd look you came to come up to the back of this because i am wondering if the music and the entertainment industry do they even cat? that for some kids and some women are being impacted negatively. that's good. so melissa had since last so to the extent that girls are sing primarily are exclusively highly sexualized eroticized images of young women in the media. it shapes their expectations about what their life is going to be when they mature and what's, what society expects of them. girls who consume highly sexualized media, for example, we know are more likely to suffer from eating disorders and more likely to initiate sex at a younger age are going to have more sexual partners over the course of the lifetime . they're also more likely to have it done wanted pregnancy and more likely to experience episodes of depression. can you just show a business?
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is it even a site to, is this really, really important that hasn't really been discussed, at least from what i've seen and the publicity on this documentary. and that is the question of diversity in this, in this whole situation. and the fact that brittany, being a white southern woman and having this culture because she came from this culture of sexualized imaging, you have to understand what she was doing was not just something that the record company created or took advantage of. but this was also part of her culture to be uniformed, to be attractive, to attract her husband and ultimately get married and have a family. this is, this is very much a regional cultural mandate. so the other part of this is the sort of the standard of women of color and in the rapt community in an urban music community. how we
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have artist like courtney be and meghan the style in making denies. and they are very, very sexualized and very proud of it and talk about it and associated themselves with. busy ultimately and yet is it really doesn't get a pass. and i think that what that does is it marginalizes women of color even more because this is supposed to be part of who they are. do the record companies take advantage of it? do they care? i think they care to an extent they have limits obviously. but you know, because nobody's doing anything you know pornographic, but they want to make money. so they're going to use what people advertise are asking for. and i'm not condoning it at all of them. and as myself, i find it a little bit frustrating, but uh,
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i see happening all the time and i think it's getting even worse because i think the media, especially in television production with reality tv shows like the batch for it's actually read or just reinforcing these negative the tom in this line. yeah. something came up. let me, let me give this to this. is jennifer jennifer is watching live right now? does a thank you. subject of personal responsibility. why don't we take more of a stand as women to actively show these types of behavior coming from men, mutual even of women, feminist can why? why are we, we, they know they say the same is over and over again. we saw it in the 50, so in the 60 so in the seventy's which is c hits. why don't we say wouldn't be doing that as well. um, you know, some women are saying that they're not going to do that. i think that once you get into a position of power, when you look at taylor swift or adel, for instance, you're not seeing them creating around in a tv we the tv. they are taking
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a different route. you have to get to a place of power. and unfortunately for women, at least in show business, they have to kind of walk through the fire and become a stainless and becoming powerful to do that. the other problem is that at least in the music business, i can say there's not enough women executives at the top of the food chain that are really making these decisions to say, no, we are not going to do that. we're not going to have our artist look that way. we're not going to sign orders that want to look that way. and we're not going to promote that. that violence that hasn't changed. you know, in the time that i've been working in the business and i've been in it for over 3 years. so that's, that's what has to change sachi i, i have to give this to t. this is from jack. jack is watching right now. he wants know your opinion, the fact guess what is your opinion on social media? because isn't this a different era now with people and i'm paraphrasing, jack,
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a web where people have more control. so nobody's have more control. we'll have more control about what do we want to put out say, who is telling the story? do we have our own story to tell such a guy? yeah, i think it's a very different environment now, and it was 20 years ago when brittany was sort of coming up. you have different mechanisms to control your narrative. now you have instagram, you can post in a notes apology on twitter. if you feel like you did something, i mean, there's like a 1000000 ways to be able to get out ahead of a story. you don't really need to do a glossy diane sawyer interview. and then in terms of the question of like control and why to us as women allows us to happen. i mean, i feel a great deal of control when it comes to my own sexuality and i know a lot of women feel way and a lot of girls feel that way. i mean, that's sort of the time when you're playing with that and figuring out what it means for you and what that power means for you. so i don't think we can see that with one brush and say like, well we should all just shut that down. it's that's not feasible and it's not
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possible. but uh, yeah, i mean, social media allows a very different kind of, uh, conversation to happen as you, as the person in the forefront. so they can control it to some degree. you mentioned diane sawyer, which, which takes me back to, i need 3. she did, we put new space in 2003. when do you watch the sort of, i am wondering, is it possible that an anchor reporter would approach need to be this way? in 2021. have of this and have a look. and i have to ask a couple of things about test. ok, of course you can just go in on television. i'm pretty much said you broke his heart. you did something that caused him so much pain, so much suffering. what that you do was upset was upset for a while with us. i think we're both very young and it was kind of waiting
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to happen a one day if you so that is this week. we really, really get to even, oh gosh, why don't make those decisions. but i would hope that i, you know, here's an interview about her and her career and it's focused on the boy, she dated and i have to back it that's given so much time and attention and a national interview for her is, is striking. you know, i, i wonder in, in the era of me to, as well as, i think a more empowered moment for us as a society and as a society of women and also men and all of us to sort of st. you know what enough is enough in terms of the sort of gas lighting and blaming. i think that the, i'm remembering back i grew up in the ninety's and i remember him back to those tabloid articles and how it really was about the relationships that celebrities
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were happy with one another and how they came together with their experiences and time. the relationship look like for me where together and also what their breakups were about. that was really the focus of the news. and, and i wonder if i don't think that we're in a space where we would value that as much. but it truly is, you know, it's, it's struggling to watch and also to watch her break down even further. and in that particular spot is hard to watch. but news kind of a, a case story says, so this conversation, i case history for this conversation would come to multiple celebrities where people apologizing to decades latest, 3 decades later. that really wasn't good behavior with story about this. i'm wondering if it's the document you can really change the way we think and we still and can we do, but i think going forward, lee and simmons says yes, have a listen to this. can i think that will look back um, as near times documentary as a sort of catalyst for change within the media. i do think it has open
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a lot of eyes. it's got the conversation started as far as the way women and girls are being depicted by the media. and a huge part of that was the fact that this documentary was female driven, you know, who better to understand the intricacies of womanhood and semen as i'm then women the you are the are, you was the guy i the difference. i love, we are so much. she is so brilliant and she's absolutely right, samantha star, who's the director of the documentary, did such an amazing job. and it was true of women talking about women, which i think is so important. she's absolutely right. do i think it's going to change things maybe a little bit is really going to be driven by social media, because unfortunately, this documentary is only on hulu. and if you don't subscribe to hulu,
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it's going to be difficult for people to see it. and i hope that it becomes such a force and such a conversation that eventually it actually gets repaired on accident on the fox network, which is so ironic in and of itself. if that happens, then fantastic. i think that really will be a catalyst for change. but i think that before that happens, we really have to get control of what the network see as good as national programming. we've got to get rid of the shows where women are being exploited on a regular i'm talking about again, the bachelor and bachelorette and these reality tv shows that, you know, passed for programming because the networks don't want to spend money on production of the, you know, it's that's good. sorry. taken off the fields. i am hate watching the got to the right now what i'm looking at like cooking is going to thank you so much talk
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to you. i appreciate you, wendy. appreciate you to have a look at my laptop because maybe i'm not sure if a document change or change the way we think. but this certainly apologies flooring . brittany's direction drama back. we are slowly. brittany. we're over to planes. what happened to britney spears? one more here, justin timberlake. i'm sorry. yeah. and our a little too late by jo. jo. that wasn't me. that was the pasta. thank you so much . we checked talk today has out to 0 as a cover to britney spears story. we don't think so. this is probably the only time i'm thinking the cheapest to be part of that conversation. i see you next time take the
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