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so it looks like there's just bizarre object on the screen and it disappears at a rapid speed. well, what we're hearing from these mil military pilots is that they've experienced very weird situations. one describes off the east coast. somebody like a brown or black box that was surrounded by what appeared to be like a clear bubble. and that it was able to defy any of the technology that any country in this world has. basically it's at a standstill and then just supersonic speeds. and they repeat over and over that they don't believe any country, any military has this kind of capability that this technology, the bigger concern they say is that there's no system in place for navy pilots or commercial pilots to really identify enter it report these and they say that they're not being taken seriously. and in some type of cases, the military is actually pushing back on them, but it's hurting their careers. both democrats and republicans are saying we need to get to the bottom of this. the vast majority of americans believe aliens exist. we need to know if the military is covering it up. so it does look like this
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legislation is likely to pass and so it probably won't be any time soon because find anything when it comes to u. s. government takes forever, but there's a real chance that the congress is gonna force the got the administration's hands and make them let us know what they all know about us, those the 0 and these are the top stories. the head of the african union is calling for an immediate end to a coup attempt in these year. president mohammed by zooms twitter account says that some of his guard stage to mutiny, but have failed to gain the support of the armed forces. my address is following developments from the capital of neighboring nigeria. there are reports coming out of the space in sight, signifying that there's been some form of negotiations. one of the reports is suggesting that'd be cooper. i just want to buzz them to so run that power which we
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understand you refused. and right now we also hear about mobilization on the outskirts of an yeah me where ministry bindix situated and that before we came on and i just checked with the rich tennis i have which is the national television station. it's running cartoons program, which signifies that things are normal for the time being a vigils have been held to honor canyons killed in anti government, protests opposition leader, right, loading cues, the government of ordering police to use excessive force during demonstrations against the cost of living. hundreds of palestinians have attended the funeral of a 23 year old man killed by his really soldiers during a raid on a refugee camp. a novelist, algerian authorities, se wildfires and the countries north are now contained crews have been tackling nearly a 100 fires for the past 3 days. the ship carrying 3000 cars has caught fire in the
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north sea. at least one crew member has been killed and several other is badly wounded us. and those are the headlines on alpha 0. as always, our website down to 0 dot com carries all the latest on our top stories up next generation change. where is the western agenda heading? that's the g 7. really even matter anymore. who's more electable, joe biden? or donald trump, are journalists in the media undermining our society. can americans cross their supreme court is not corrupt. the quizzical look us pull it to the bottom line, the very look on this and public confrontation, young people across the u. k. a, putting their bodies on the line to force the attention of the issues that my so to them. meanwhile, 2 u. k. government is coming down and protest it considered as disruptive and anti
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social with new rules and hostile consequences. welcome to generation change a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that might provides you around well, today we meet 2 active. this is different methods to push and nobody's to change. whether it's direct action or engaging with the political system. they come pain or issues ranging from the climb emergency to mike or mike and the play belong straight. the says that to me you born in canada, to somebody parents that you grew up here in london. what plenty to see to doctors and see what plans for the seed for me was growing up in the early, 2, thousands and the backdrop of the rock floor everywhere. you loved me. it was
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talking about my friends and talking with people that looked like me and i think that sold me with a lot of angry or, and kind of confusion. and i became quite assess the politics if i didn't engage in that politics was definitely engaged with me and my identity and setting the terms . and i didn't about topic i think people are familiar with the time. climate crisis will climate imagine the, the, you spoken about climate justice won't see me when you talk about that for a long time. we've talked about climate change as an environmental issue, right? but climate change is a symptom of a system not breaking down and not working and responsible for a lot of other injustices. so whether we're talking about racial injustice, whether we're talking about the housing crisis, or inequality at the heart of it is an economy that prioritizes profit and profit for the few. and then is pondering people on time that so we have the same
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companies who are responsible for the vast majority of emissions are also responsible for poor working conditions and low wages. they're also responsible for not paying taxes, and you have to pick up the bill. people so when we talk about climate justice, we talk about building a hopeful vision of the future. that means we can tackle other social injustices and the pursuit of timeframe. pharmacist, people would say that there are many sign it movements of the name. it was a fight a against the climate crisis. say, where did you see a got a new organization green you do rising in the, in the rising. we haven't better than analysis of things that the climate movement hasn't necessarily gotten right. one of them is my time limit for a long time has been white and middle class. and we will know in order to be something as big as climate change, we need everyone. and so how do we include everyone's? what if we built an economy?
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that's the only priority was to serve people phonics, we would have an economy that invested in communities that built wells for communities that lived within planetary boundaries because we're investing in renewables and public transport. and that's what we're doing. i can bring it to a rising as we're talking about the green deal, which is an economic transformation that allows us to thrive in the future and tackle climate change. the other thing that's super different about what we're doing is for political or main tax, take us to find them keys and hold them accountable in terms of challenge them and film them so that we have them on record. and when we put them on line, you know, it's up to the electorate to decide whether these people are for us and against us . much like the find on for she. one of our most popular challenges is when we challenge pretty fatality, a former home secretary who's passing the pond to kind of offshore refugees and my
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grades to lawanda for processing. and we went to a fundraising dinner. she was hosting and disruptive dot that engaged in the and actually it wouldn't buyer or i think a lot of people looked at it and ask themselves why it's time to this. talking about migrations. it seems like the rwanda times are just a distraction to get us to be angry at migrants. people who just want better lives and opportunities. instead of being angry at a political class that is just taking more and more from working people and giving us less than return the the it or your dad is published in your mom is a rock a. so you were born and bred in the u. k. how did your family story and background
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check your what would be? well, for my family, we were actually the only ones from both sides of the family to have her come west and country. so i have most of my thoughts how many were living in georgia and on the next style and all of my mom's time, we were living in it, right? so when you go pay proof that kind of background, it's very difficult to not be politically your way as a young person. what was your 1st kind of experience of activism and doing the type of work the day? so i was researching into my university and i said, of the board quite dive estimate of sanctions campaign. i got many students and academics on board and then later went on to replicate the other universities. and this really laid the foundations fault for what later was phone as part of sign action. the
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can you tell me a little bit about palestine action? well, let each one to stop it. so how about that action? is there a direct talk soon? that what on our main focus on our main talk is out, but systems which is as far as largest dom spend as specifically it was started because all of the i've been used to bring in and bulk or between britain is where i've had failed and everything through the political process, so late, but specifically which i was involved in as one of your other beach sales. then di, with action was to be left open for us. so we started off by initially storming into that headquarters in london. stay financing across the offices. i'm kept going back again and again, and eventually mom, while people joins our, our network. so one of the mazda factories and all of them was boss too. so i must have lost and they are foster bands and that link that has the courses. so for us, we want to continue to promote this movement, and so all of our big sites,
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so i'll shut down in this country. can you explain why is chosen speak? some open systems may produce the vast majority of as well as military drone plates . and we've seen how this is used on the cops of population of gauze, uh, routinely. they market them as possible tested or compact proof and, and then use that to sell it onto, or that rate james across the wells. they've been used it against the people of customers. for example, iraq, afghanistan, and many other places also against refugees here who were trying to seek safety in this country. they also build the electronics for the apartheid wall. the same system is being used between us and mexico. so we can see how his thoughts are from palestine and others use against other people across the wells. can you explain exactly what risks you run yourself in order to carry this out? we were quite heavily targeted, i think at the start of palestine action, we saw that followed up by res. i'm on our homes that were the co founder. those
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include thing arresting. richard bonaza, another co found for black mount. and this was asked that he said that he was going hunger strike if the landlords did not fix out. but um they did continue to charge um several of those 1st that so were facing the charge the block now cuz thursday to connect some damage. and since thursday to back on the guessing rest, it is kind of hard to the plan is not the end of the process. but as i'd say in the court process in itself is an extension of the action. and it's where we can try and force his complaints to basically give out information that they would not normally give out. but you are running a real risk to and you know, status games presents. if this continues to operate, you know, mom or lives are going to be taken and so i'm more than willing to accept the present. as a consequence, i will still be a lot better off than most people who have to you at the end of these lessons.
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to kick things off, i just want to ask in the u. k, we've gone through so many big changes. do you think that young people are disillusioned or do you think they all politically engaged? active, what's your opinion at the moment? i think both, i think young people are, does this illusion that i'm one of them? i'm but we are also political. i think we're in this period, we're actually social activism and social movement. i've never been more active and imagine it's heavy, but it's the political elite and you know, i look toral politics that i think is what's the solution mean young people because we have a look toral system in a voting system that a is not representative it, but also because people are sold action, they want their economy to work for them in their communities. they want action on climate change. they want investment in our public services. the only reason we survived the pandemic were pete because of the front line service workers. i
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thought we will agreed during the time that back that those are the people that should be at the heart of our communities. they are the people that we should be investing in. and the only reason in bold action is because we still have in place political leaders who somehow haven't caught up with a consensus. the factors is that many young people are disillusioned with a political system. but i think whole way more political than, than ever before. because the political system, i mean like told politics has failed. so many people, i think a situation of call been and leave as well on a lot of young people into poly politics. and they felt like that was a very cool for change. and when that didn't work for myself, at least it opened my ours to realizing that we cannot afford to invest our time into a system that wasn't designed for us. but that doesn't mean that there is a ways that we can be politically active and change our society from the grassroots rather than through, appealing to the powers that be to create those changes for us. i mean,
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i would say that i don't see social movements being successful unless they have a political it. and so it's not about wholesale giving up on october, eliza or politics. it's about trying to use the power of social movements from the grass roots to kind of course that change and we, we see it happening around the world actually enlighten america. we're seeing the hopes of that sort of political wing of progress, the politics starting to take power. you know, if you look at your life, for example, and while we had that defeat in 2019 with the carbon sleeper, i do see, you know, i'm pardoned maddox. it's enough to see that there is another way into power. we just need to build stronger movements, i think for climate change, it may be slightly different and you're right, you do need a complete overhaul of the system, which will require the state and the government to get behind it. but i think when it comes to imperialism and politics and support of the policy and people, then jeremy colbin was an exception. i believe for what we've had for the past 100
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years of successive governments. and no politician in this country has ever shut down an alms back today. whereas people have faith if you'll naples all quite young, and they refunded around 2019, which was just the full of the table pandemic. and then, you know, we've had the warranty crane when you look at one of those issues on the outside, how do you think they've impacted your what and what you're trying to achieve. so we started at an interesting time in 2019. um, it was a time when it was kind of the kind of activism around climate change. i don't think i've ever seen before. you had, you know, extinction rebellion we had to climb a strikers. you have the u. k. announcing the 1st sort of net 0 target by 2050 in the world. and then early in 2020 a pandemic came, people are suddenly talking about government intervention. we're talking about investment instead of austerity. we're talking about building back a better and not going back to the economy pre pandemic. and coming out of the time
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that we have the crane war, which put stressors across europe, particularly on energy supply. and what we saw was the u. k announced new north sea oil and gas, and that's put us in a really difficult position because investing a new fossil fuel infrastructure doesn't help us meet our meet our energy needs now . and it doesn't lower energy bills, but also just puts us in perpetual crisis because the climate crisis is not going anywhere. who the id feel about all of the big events that happened recent years and how that directly impacts what you're doing. yes. or for some context we launched at the end of july 2020 and then in may 2021. this has when we saw a decent assault to people have caused the people being forced out the homes. and in jerusalem, we saw a massive increase and people following enjoining public time option and supporting the cause. during that time. and there was
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a factory and full activities have climbed onto the top of the reef on south fox street in lesta and move in a couple of hours. hundreds from the local community came out support, it was ox today. and then we saw the fire service pull out and says, and refuse and say to the place that we will not meet these protesters. so for us, it was about go straight to these arms companies, specifically out, but systems and bypass the political process. and that strategy also expose the fact that this company exists here because many um companies, they kind of hides in plain sight in these factories in industrial towns that you wouldn't know what this is as well as between that one and the one next, all which bills tories for children and we found it to be extremely successful where it was before we had never seen that type of success and full thing. the closure of is really honest. factories in this country
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2022. so people across the u. k. facing flooring place and, and a rapidly rising cost of living prices that plus prices and strikes in $1.00 industry after another from postal entrance, bulwark has dealt with lawyer. so i want to know what break if you think about how far it is that you should be able to go to in terms of guessing your points across . i think it's distance for different movements. so for the change strikes on is that right? and but so in order for them to gain that rights and mass salary and the device that they deserve as well, cuz then it's necessary for them to disrupt the tray line. i think paula said action is quite different though to was extinction rebellions tactics. mainly because expansion volume is more focused on disrupting at the public as a whole, as a way of posting pressure on the government in order to enact that they,
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they radical change. it needs on the climate, whereas for us we are more focused on directly disrupting the companies we talk with using weapons. so that was less impact on the public. i was, i was just, i just had the are usually about his inaction goes a step further, then extinction. rebellion smashing up. yeah. conference rooms causing damage to the property. so how do you justify that? well, what smashing up an honest company west of pink that ability to produce weapons. and i think many people would agree that you kind of put a price on one human life. you can put a price on a window or a fax or a, a reef, for example. i'm not sure never come at the cost of human life if you saw a child with us, a human being about to be high and you had to knock down at all in order to help them knock out the door without, without hesitation. and that's exactly the same principle,
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or do you have anything that you would add? yeah, absolutely. i am a student of social movements and we often are to a white washed version of whether it's martin luther king or gandhi, or the women's rights movements. huge parts of those movements took direct action, not really did stop daily life going on for people are politicians. and so we're going to need movement set, take a variety of different actions. and the fact that we're in a day and age where we think striking workers removing their labor as being extreme . well, who said we have a right over their labor, right? if we're not creating a conditions that are fair for them to work and why should they not down their tools? and so i've been really inspired to see the union leaders that have been on our television articulating the fears and hopes of ordinary working people. in 2022, the case of men 14 legislation to combat
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a disruptive person now in the public or the bills coming through parliament wants to introduce even hoster world. we will also increase a maximum penalty to disrupt promote away criminalized interference with team for structures such as rows, railways, and our free press on here's the please. i'm the quotes, new power. it's not a human rights design wise processing to so mind freedom of expression to protest 5 . and we know you can just start from right to blue yourself to the road and get away with it. critics who these messages to threaten the long standing democratic freedom. the governments, the, they are needed because recent protest by a minority of actually this has been dangerous training public funds. and so i bet he's police resources. what do you think about these new knows and bills and they affect they'll have and do you think it will impact the way you move forward? i think people embrace and for a long time is to thank the author are terry and is in was the domain of certain
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country as well. actually, you know, britain has exercised around the world for a long time, and now it's here at home and trying to curtail protest on one side. it shows that we're being impactful because actually the, the government is needing to legislate on specific types of protests. on the other hand, i think a lot of people are worried. i've just seen in spaces when we're talking about protests and thinking about the type of actions that we are planning these bills package are written they factor into who's willing to take these actions. it is an incredibly hostile moment for our movements, but this is the moment we can let them when, because it becomes the new norm. and then therefore we're unable to sort of closed back and you're right. so if we let that become something that's accepted that are you running, those are still ready or running the risk of being sent to prison. and how do you feel about all of this happening? because i'm all attack 6 already based on direct action. i'm over the criminalized
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. the new bills don't affect toes that much, but actually the more they try and repress, i'm put on new laws and new bells. i think the more people actually move towards more radical types of options. we saw recently at the nc monica, a protest, people coming to rest, it's for just shouting slogans like she would like to them. you can face the rest for that. then one of the rest for shutting down an honest company. i think that what they are, what they've done is go to and buy, clashing, and help movements. what? so, the government says that these bills are necessary because guerrilla tactics used by small minority of pretest is of course, a disproportionate impact on the hard watching majority seeking to go about that everyday lives. what do you make the argument? we looked at for the breakdown the climate and, and in order to get that message across that forced into a situation where that falls into blocking the general public, then it's for the great to got. i think when people take more drastic action,
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it's in response on the wrong and blaming those activists. we have to play and the government who did an act fast just to kind of illuminate a bit more we did. we did an action over the summer where we disrupted the hustings of the conservative party who were trying to choose their new leader. and i disrupted the speech of list trust. the her reaction in that moment as i was being dragged away, was like show the militants act to this, such as extinction, rebellion know, table to disrupt ordinary people who what caused the, the right thing, a guarantee. what they want to create a situation where the government of the day decides what they think is fair, what they like. who are the good guys, who are the bad guys? democratic societies don't work like that democratic societies or wants to allow
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for there to be debate, to allow for people to have different opinions for people to organize and help determine that their future. and we're slowly sort of looking away from that kind of society, them into one that's governed by a few. if you could take a step back and imagine the world that you want to see, what is it that you want to see the future that you live in the u. k. i one a, a future where we have the sort of democratic coordination and some people are able to be involved in decision making. and that decisions as a society are based on what benefit people and benefit planner over process. you know what the timeline of climate change wants to, gary? i think we have opportunity in this window to make sure that the way that we tackle the climate crisis is one that has just to set its heart. but there is a risk, right? i think governments will find a way to tackle climate change, but it's not secure that they're going to do it in a way that's fair. i think everyone now believes climate change exists from the
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main stream. the fight is over, how we tackle it, and we want to make sure we tackle it in a way that protects our communities whereby you had a, i mean your future might involve time in prison. but if you were gonna imagine that the seats that we're going to pay off, how would it look? well, i think the office 1st $1.00 would be and i'm to as well as arms chase and read 10 . i bought for many people or rather glad as one of the world's largest export yvonne's more of a tiny island as was so much roots back to here. so if it has a must of overhauled of that whole industry for that kind of thinking and tactics to be transported to other countries. and then i believe, you know, hopefully within our lifetime we can see if we palestine before that to happen. we need sanctions and the government's all going to do it so the people have to do it themselves for the 1st month. thank you so much for speaking with me today.
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