3 in the south korean government and its people will do the utmost to assure the worry. well for more on the side of join now in the nigerian capital of the future is company a dominant, the managing director of beacon consulting, a security risk management. and the intelligence that operates in the ssl in paris is nicholas new brooks. the managing editor of the africa report magazine, which covers pub, african politics and business, and then london, alex vines direct to all the advocate programs at chess somehow. so will welcome to all of my guess. thanks for joining us. have an insight story. could be our topics, i come to you 1st in the future, you try to result the 1st of all i talk to is looking to be the last country to experience a to in the region. they happen pretty often, but what's going wrong here? a thank you. um, so what's the of what we see more than the general know the country that when the military take over the not able to address these 2 issues and elements,

especially the influence of non state groups that uh i do a legit company based. so in particular, there are several ideological groups that also has its own share of, um, implants of, of this group 3 to an extend, yet security, the challenge. and then they've got the economy to be implemented. but suddenly, the claim that the military will be in a better position to address that has not been factual. and data will delford thoughts as we continue with the conversation. nicholas northbrook hill, the cool, the rebellion. however, we want to describe it. it seems to spread much wide to the military to a full blown crew. is that a fair with the night? he was sending us text messages, saying the elements of the army will be here soon. it's just the presidential god, which is in bold. and so building a presidential gods so mean you can pull them for joy and god's,

the presidential god in the share is 2000 strong. and it says the, the unintended consequences that the institution that as well as off and is better training. this is the military and particularly the, the kind of, of the units. the consequences is that the huge um for jo straight since a virtual ones. but the entropy show a lot of buyers remote because as your previous because that the, the middle trees just not like where to provide you know, better security long. jessica is like g here. are you surprised by what's going on? yeah, yeah. i mean, given the statement by the president, we'd have to think they can do a better job than the democratically elected officials be they go to about they are still democratically elected by the people. it's, it's a, it's a tough one. just to pick up on a, on a previous point. and the only thing you can tell me if it's

a little more surprising when the managers believe to be behind this punch. a general of durham on gianni, who is the head of this by tory and god presidential god, we'd be speaking about he, he's known about, he's a, he's a known quantity. and when a president bedrooms success seem to that, the, the consequences for the actions are not really be felt for the state of steel. much the parents either from western partners who pulled in a lot of cash. and there was a visit in february, i believe by your payment assistance, or i forgot that was a visit by attorney blinking us secretary of state in march. in april the, the german defense, minnesota was that there's been an incredible amounts of money put into the amenities, but no turns out from that. another parents come to read from the region. that was

a time when nigeria was considered the genre of west africa. and that's no longer the case clinton. no, it isn't. i mean, uh, alex volumes. you analyze the way we've seen so many cubes in that region. and in the last, you know, 4 to 5 years ago we think of molly, we think it became the fast. so, i mean way to groups like a costly efforts in unity post colonial periods. yeah, so it's definitely a concern, as you mentioned, since 2020, we've had 7 cruise and 3 attempted codes, but those are really confounded ones. and there might be a bunch of others. i would cut of saying that the car wash as try, you know, we've got a new to number, assess a present list of who, who was a much more closely aligned with general mazda and she, she already, i'm not sure i agree that she only was involved in the, the attempt to the march 2021 or 2. i think she actually stopped it so, so the, you know,

going forward is about how can the economic community of west african states become more effective, more efficient, and really not just be condemning cruise, but we've, we've, we've was actually, we've options and i think bass bass you know, that's what's been drawn out and really that shouldn't be now with these yet because new just not just strategic and important for the west. it's the pretty important from nigeria and, and so a lot of the focus is now being coach on to how to convince the purchase ta, ta ta, down basically, that's what's going on. rochester moment. could be at the end of the page at the modus operandi. certainly the situation seems to reflect what we've seen in the regional austin nicholas the same sort of a good answer to this question as well, but i'll start with you 1st, it starts off, i'm just gonna quickly briefly summarize it. mean, any direct consequences on the uh, nicholas guide bring you in here in power, sending us money. what i have to say, but i think that's the reality, isn't it?

this is what we've seen repeated again and again, alex is also not doing an agreement. so i think we're all on the same page here in this get yours is a really accurate i don't know if there's a, any shortcut to it. i wouldn't, i wouldn't remove agency those from those delegation as you know, absolutely take the point that the, the tend to do it ministration may have much more force than the bar administration which ran nigeria for the previous 8 years. but, but certainly when president, by some joe was in charge and nigeria was very comfortable projecting military force in the region that script was ready and had to spend. sometimes clauses found themselves taste abundantly out of office, which is,

you know, what you call, you know, allows i'm, and it's a number of this thing drawn up at the moment is a, is a robust response against purchase. there's one thing that's a number of the incoming officials, the beginning. so imagine around him that all that they have come and vision unless they don't want military to types of ships, they hold the cross when they're dealing with opposing the a bunch of administration and nigeria. so this is a very different nigeria, and i think this is where the purchase in, in the army may have missed calculations. the big coolest in malia and the key, the fast. so even even chad, very unstable. these old external security challenges that his country have to deal and spends whom was have a time as being a real breakthrough for the region. at the time, there was a little bit of time to rewrite, comes to choose minnesota doesn't. and so when not on the windows a relatively well a lot of people work with we're pretty,

pretty hot for the region. 10 somebody else has happened in 2021, just been with us was dead. sorry that says the president teachers debbie will have the the problems with this on that because it, curiously in the region doing a lot of the heavy lifting media was the only one today. since that is, i do know that so does anyone do not wrote the matter? a few question marks it could be let's bring you back in here from a digit. let's talk about security means the conversation on that. we got good sense of what's going on. the job we're seeing west and forces being pulled out of country security part is in body for example, the us is like you might even say on the back flips. that was friends. yes. the how to do would be and suggestion that perhaps because of the attention of the, the roach on invasion of ukraine's, that type of, of the, you know, interest type, the multilateral or regional and global institutions. eco, we've difficult

a cause of a you as well. do not speak a no bar on good govern, you know, taking a particular investor and some features back as part of the fridge meeting. and you're not purchase leaders already bought it and bought it and some features that you're not able to go to the booking of paso and uh, and molly represented the presence of a oh oh, get a be so is there. and so, and so clearly the, the, the russians always looking for opportunity and most of the shopping has, it, has a now associated he motions were nothing very lovely on the door of the juncture. and what to do, go look at the book you know, fast or jump to, but up to now the back jumped her headset and i'd like to we, we don't want them to rush or to be involved with us. we all coming right place. that's the end of all probably got nick, us know, a book just briefly. i mean there is such a thing as a, as you could see from the picture yesterday, they were called kinda immediately into the portal. the president would not be on

seeing that country being dragged down reduction the rate uh must go. i'd be very surprised if they weren't gonna trying at least take advantage of. i'll do that indeed as a fast moving story and one that is still developing, even as we speak, i'd like to thank all of my guess for joining me on this edition of inside story to could be at the nicholas northbrook and alex vines. and thank you to as well for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website at ologist ever dot com. the discussion goes, well. facebook page was facebook dot com forward slash h, a inside story. now you can also join the conversations with a handle. there is a tray inside story for me, so we'll run them on the inside story team. thanks very much for your time. the learn learn please.