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kind of fast as hey, was kind of down base and back and forth. i was hoping for at least $200.00 or more injured. you know, he thought he was doing the right thing or with muscles in his mind when i tell people this story, they tell me that they don't believe not called my mom, the mother theresa and the muscle community. and that's definitely true. i invited him over put on the help it except to mention fee for my heart is welcome the i couldn't get in a 1000000 years, pay this community what they've given me the. so we're going on a journey from hate to acceptance via kind this. joining us talk about the film,
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the people are on a president of the so that makes sense to us and the muncie in indiana. also in muncie, indiana, richard mac mckinney. he's a live coach id hate at twist, the public speaker, which is mckinney can i call you back? absolutely. all right, welcome back. and in new york dos us staff to hell. he directed the documentary fish to phoebe, not joshua, so great happening here. we have a youtube audience who are standing by with the comments ready to ask you a question. so there you go. youtube audience. you can jump in any time we stop mac with a situation where you are planning to bomb. most of it's nearby to you. why over the years i've developed a hatred for as long as muslims it had it a basically just built and built over time to where i the only
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way that i saw of making any kind of concession on this was to eliminate as many of them as i could move fast the, the, the top rails of somebody who sees of the pay for something different. when you say, then it's like those people know anything to do with you in the military. the way you could make sense, just the killing was told to buy a high off official like mac. this is how you have to think about it. and i want to share that movement in the documentary because it helps us understand what was mac . even think it's, have a look. i was in the military for a long time. around 25 years. towards the end of my military career. i was totally different person. the fact of being involved in so many dis, over years,
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the credit is on there. i don't even know the i probably would have been committed if they would actually know the way i was asking the one time i had a discussion di, ranking person, about coping to be streaming. max on the ranger sheet of paper target on issues and looked at them as anything but human really problems center. okay. that makes sense. that's what i did just the baby. do you remember the 1st time you met matt? cool. your 1st impressions a thank you. when i 1st met neck, i mean as a say or here look scary and concern. but in spite of that, i respectfully welcome him and with kindness and respect and understood
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as he was a human. and as we would have best home, i mean, what do you use? i know is you know, why, and that's a basic number that i must get scary things but, but well, could we kind of like what we do discovery things. scary thing was doing in the mosque. i mean this was part of the palm, right? well actually me being in the mosque was not part of the plan. in order to i, i want a tangible evidence. i knew what i believed to be true to the fax. the thing was that i wanted to be able to, to show my daughter, even though she was going to lose her father. i wanted to show my daughter that see these people really are eve. and i went to the source. yeah, i'm joshua hugh. we're trying to place this story together and tell this story for
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documentary phone that moment way. we seen mac. oh, we see that mike is casing the mosque and that is terrifying. and for a long part of the documentary, i think it's gonna end in an awful way. did you do that deliberately? well, we, we wanted to tell a story with some within new kinds of heroes heroes like like baby and like her, her husband solver. and we wanted to make a film that didn't just preach to the choir and you know, so many film so many documentaries, even ones that i've made, i think end up preaching to the choir and we wanted to show him to be different. we wanted to, we want this film to, we want people to watch this film who maybe need to watch this film. i need this message need to understand. i have a better understanding of, of muslims have
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a better understanding of um, their own biases. and we, so we told the story in a way that was, is very gripping and draws you in and hasn't almost a true crime. tell me what i'm saying. this is no going to end. well, joshua for a long time. yeah. i mean we, we took around that, it's a, it's a true crime. yeah. story. was it without a crime. best guy. yeah. and so, yeah. so yeah. so because i was unhappy and you know it's a, it's a story about sky. no, i just felt that the best phone number that might have been nothing all the way through this a little bit. well, why you nothing as well. i mean, i totally agree with josh. so he did him and his team did such a wonderful job of piecing this together. and a lot of people have come up to me after they watch it. they says, oh my gosh,
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i was shop. yeah, i thought it was gonna add totally different twist. you know, and they told me when i saw me being interviewed, they thought i was being interviewed. i was actually in griffin, i thought you were in town and i was like, oh yeah, i know it isn't how to district get access to prison to talk to mac. i was i was confused. i was like, wow, i yeah, i thought i thought you were in a lot of trouble just to be also noting as joshua's talent. that's how we want it to tell the story. yeah, i think uh, i think we were to assume the kind to him, we did not put him in jail. that's why he's not in jail. we were to, to live last to be able to welcome him for him and save his life. all right, in their life? no community members life. yeah, i think of the job done was done by joshua, how would he percent? that's a documentary to me to watch it. and i know when i did interview,
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i'll give you a little bit of background why i did it by the one i truly watch. i said this, the entropy who wants to read the story. and i would like to talk, this is a real thing. this is the profession and it was done in how he put these pieces together. and the student had happened in 2000 and mine or was in this was he was working on in 2021. it's been a while, but very impressed how we did the intentionally, that it was amazing message. and i think that's what i, it's very dear to my heart because of the message how we shed this through a documentary. and how he organized it in a short 30 minutes. uh huh. yeah. so it was very much packed into that 30 minutes. you feel like you've watched an entire feature film by the time you get to the end of it? there's a lot of tension in the documentary and there's a pop way. i'm not pulling anything for you because you have to watch. i mean, takes 30 minutes to one year as a pop way. goes to the most because he is planning to do something awful. and
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he needs to tell his step daughter, he needs proof to tell his that feels like it's right, these people are living amongst us and i need to do something about it. have a listen. have a look at this part of the field. i need to be able to show approved i need to be able to show the rest of the world. so i went to the as on center to get the proof one. and it was one of you with these people because if i walk inside of the building, i might have come down. so i walk in the building and all of a sudden it's like i felt my stomach tighten up. just i know i tried to keep my senses about me. i have very anxious. i didn't trust them. i, i considered myself. somebody is a, a,
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a future news story on out to 0. by the end of the night, i figured they would have been in the basement with a sword to my throat. let you cut you out his ear and live it for thanks way it was, it is a garage. yes. for walking into the last of looking into the most that was the moment that changed your life and probably a lot of people's lives in the most because that was the beginning of how kindness of a comes heights. yeah. yeah. telephone. so, um, you know, when it was, when i went in there, i was very, you know, i feel very an easy um and uh, i was met with open arms. smiles. how close you know. uh glad you could be here. and then, you know, one of the brothers gave me a come up to me and he handed me a cron. and he says,
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read this. come back when you have questions. and i was like, man, they give me the all the evidence. and they're going to explain it to me like this is great. yeah, yeah, at but, but as i was piecing the 2 together between how i was being treated and what was in the koran. my impression of islam was the people who had been shooting at me. okay . and, but when i came here and i started reading the scripture and knowing how religion works to where you're supposed to live your life according to the scriptures as closely as you can. well, i solve it in months. i didn't see that overseas. so that tells me that obviously the people in muncie are actually a true or representation of what is what i'm really is. and it changed my whole perspective, you know, and that's when i started understanding that even more,
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more about human beings and they, they make the decisions they make. and the ways that they act simply driven by greet joshua, who looking very thoughtful, articulate those thoughts, go ahead as well. i think that when mack went to the mosque, he had just had a big argument with his 8 year old daughter. and you know, she had yelled at him because he said something is on the phone, but he said something negative about muslims. and his 8 year old daughter confronted him instead. like, what are you thinking like, what's wrong, what's wrong with your dad? and that's when he went to the mosque was in the week of that argument because um, you know, he wanted to make sure he was right. that he, that his plan to bomb the boss was the right thing to do. and this little 8 year old had made him question his plans. and i think that when he went in there his, i think his guard was down a little bit. i think i think there was
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a tiny crack in his armor. there was a tiny, like opening for love to come in, and when he met b, b, and solver, and joe mo and the other members of the mosque. and they were so nice to him and, and so kind and welcoming that are kind of blew his minds i think is he didn't know what to think. but he started to think like maybe i maybe i am wrong. maybe maybe i've got this whole thing wrong. and it was amazing moment where, you know, be through her kindness i think started to change his mind and melt away the hatred that he had in his heart. and she didn't even know. like maybe you didn't know anything about what his plans when i did not as you know . i mean i would do the still i knew on uh i was less than the family that we on ways to get him straightened. my father also took care of the people as in the
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homeless and when i came across anybody, because i had do that these you toys and taken care of. uh, i like to do. and then my husband's being a medical doctor worked in his office, experiencing 2 things is due by the now we have dealt with all cop walks of life and we have comforted all kinds of people throughout our life. and we have give them place in our home that have stayed with us for months and weeks to, to before we let them go. and the same thing though, so i mean when i did this was a man, what i thought of me to invite him over nothing. i'm sitting on the table where he was sitting with us having a demo. and i think that also was part of a way of life for me, but it was a huge impact on math. and that just having welcomed him in the center, respectfully and then inviting him over to our house. and she had a meeting with him and sit down and listen to his story. i don't think he had this kind of about his product and i couldn't send them being bought it and listen to me
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that something impacted him a lot. and then obviously continuously that was not only that thing, and we also give him a part of the leadership. when i asked him to be the president of the muslim student association. and these are, what are you supposed to be? i don't know what i'm doing yet. so now what do i want? help you the same as out as a guy either. so yes, to figure out what is the what, how can he be had of the most the most? how is that possible? because what happened to you mag, this is a little bit between you going into the most being very unhappy with your muslim neighbors and then you became walked. well, 1st of all, i became the president of the muslim students association and at boss ball state university. here in, muncie, mac. uh and that was shipped to it's you forgot to say that you didn't seem to be 1st you became most of them as well. yeah. i was getting into the well yeah,
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i became a movie so, so it's weeks comes in and he's asking my husband and the other people. i want to become most of them. and the husband's saying now what are you talking about, mac? no, you need to study more and get ready. now i can lift my talk about that. all right, go ahead. right? yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so that's an interesting story. so. so 8 to, to even go back to just a little bit. no one knew about this plan about my everybody that knew me knew i hated most, but nobody knew the extent of my hatred and nobody knew that i was planning to do anything. but my wife didn't even know until after the fact she knew when the f b i showed up at the house, i know that opened up a door and we'll get back to that. but when i went there,
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and finally, after all my studying and my, my conversations and, and i and all the, all the acquaintances i was touched. i was touched by the garage and, and i, i, i had to be a most, i, i just had to and i, it was funny because i went into the mosque on a, on a friday. and for juma, and i went up to the doctor and there was another brother. right now you're showing off, but g, but you went in surprise, right? yes, yeah. okay. yeah. so, so i was a, so i, i went up to solver and another brother. so uh and says, hey, i wanna take chicago and they both, it was funny because they both looked at me. they both looked at each other. they looked back at me and they said, you know, they say you're not ready. you need to learn more, right, right. right, and i,
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and so i looked at them and said, well, then we all have a locked door and they live both. both. i'm was back at each other and both of them looked back at me and i said, all right, come, all right. yeah, sure, a lot system maybe if this was a movie, it will be on believable. the fact that it's real life is extraordinary. audio. we spoke to most of the above a, he's from the ask got american foundation, and there's a big a message to this film if they needed to be one. i don't think that needs to be one, but there is a big a message. and most of the land is on that big a method kits have a list and it's have a look kind. this does change. i think it kind of does change hatred to, to love to community, to connection and, and specifically stranger at the gate shows that in a really beautiful way. and i think it, it also, it also goes and challenges a lot of assumptions that many americans may have about islam and muslims. i think
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many americans, quote, unquote knows about his mom and knows about muslims. but they have never to spend time and really get to know most of them close up. mean joshua, this is why you withdrawn to make this document right? because where we are not just in america, but in the world right now, how do you find it? people and you experienced it as a young boy as well. no. a is a phone, me is less it's. i'm a phobia, but human foot. you experienced being. i hated because i feel jewish heritage of jewish background. so that's why you came to the field. that's what drew you to the field. what do you make of reaction? i mean, the reason we wanted to tell this story is because we felt like the story is needed right now. we felt that, you know, as you mentioned, that this is
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a moment of great division in our country, and that's how you know, it's not often that we come across a story about a would be a crime that turns into a happy ending that turns into above that shows the power of kindness, that kindness, that love conquers, hate me. and i was so. ready drawn to the story and to the actions of the, the congregants at the islamic center, muncie, phoebe and solver, and joe and everybody. and what they did that the way they welcomed mac into their congregation and the way that they treated him with kindness. and it literally saved a lives and i can't think of a better way to convey. ready to the power of kindness then with the story and it's something, it's something we, i think we can all learn from it. so it's something we need to remember that being
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kind to others, especially people, we don't know, are people that we might have preconceived notions about that that can be incredibly powerful, right? and i think that it's, it's a lesson we all need to remember right now as we sort of live in this time where we don't really talk to, um, we don't always talk to people that have different opinions than we do. we sometimes don't talk to people who vote for different the political candidate then we then we did. yeah. and like that's very troubling to me and i think what b b has shown and then through her actions is the power of talking to she didn't need to talk to mack, you know, like, she knew he was different than her. she was even scared of him, but yeah, she also saw him as a human being. and i think that's just something we need to remember and to be to be like the, uh, you know, yeah i maybe i'm right or a sign of that. yeah. and treat others, treat others as humans,
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and to try to find that common ground. and that's what, that's what struck me so much about the story and what b b and, and the congregants did in muncie. so strange, okay, has been nominated for an oscar and i just want to show the moment where joshua and his production team were waiting for the oscar nominations to come through and they were quite excited. it's let me just show you what it looks like again. and they were just waiting and then you have to tell them when they find out that they were nominated. oh yes. oh, also one of the executive produces of strange at the gate is malala. you stop by and she says, have a look here to believe that people can change and to be willing to change ourselves is our best hope for a better? well, i've spoken so much about this film. it's only 30 minutes and it's available right now. so i'm just going to click so you can see why you can see it w w,
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w dot strange at the gate dot com, just below the title, watched the film here, and you can watch it. and i guarantee you won't be disappointed. now if you know anything about is um, you know, that we're coming to the end of the whole amount of ramadan. and then there's an amazing bobby and festivities. amazing and extraordinary. i want to point out you with wish your fellow muslims around the world in a sentence this the b, b and in a sentence max has to be the 1st one sentence. i would like, i would like all my fellow of frames, a human being families and muslim brothers and sisters. thank you to wish them a happy and peaceful holidays. okay. and they sometimes a much much okay, you're a message. yes. to all the muslim brothers and sisters around the world as,
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as well as the rest of humanity, peace blessings, and know that tomorrow is a chance to be better. thank you. max. thanks. he seems to be the thank you joshua . i see you next time. take everybody, the the african narratives from african perspectives. whatever has been done before, can be done even better as long as a human being is doing it. you can shoot document reese from an african filmmakers from mozambie and came here from i am from the
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