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hello. welcome to the program. i'm adrian sent. a conflict has returned once again to ethiopia. this time. and i'm one of the 2nd largest region in the country. many um how does say that they've been sidelined by the government denies of above, which is dominated by the a robo ethnic group. local rebels in amada, known as follow, help the government, it's 2 year war and they bring to gripe. now though they've taken up arms against the ministry. the rebels have been in ton accused of trying to over throw the government. the nation's intelligence chief condemned the group, calling on them to stop fighting the management methods. if it's a force of bend, it's creating a problem by being led with the intention and gold of dismantling the regional government. and then going after the federal government, i called upon anyone included in this, in full organization of bandits, to refrain from this path of self destruction immediately and come to a peaceful solution. the national defense force is always the ultimate protection

for the constitution. so, so who are the final, i'm what do they want? it's a rental group, launch the made up of local volunteer fives us from on how to with the stated goal of defending the region. and it's people, as we mentioned during the take like conflict, the font or fault with government, and i'm hot, our regional forces and faced accusations of rights abuses but follows relationship with the government. deteriorated off, the prime minister of the ahmed submit destruction. tried to bring the group under its control follow believes that this would would leave. i'm how to vulnerable to attack by neighboring regions. in april violent protests broke out across um, honda of the prime minister ordered old power of military forces from b, c o p. as 11 regions be integrated into the police or national army officials insisted it was to bring us a protest. i said that it would undermine. i'm how does security before we begin not without guests. that's, you know, from a correspondent, catherine story. and what's behind the latest violence the government has declared

a state of emergency since this fine thing begun to pricing is between regional forces in higher regions. and this on group called a final. and what we're being towards now is that the government has set up roadblocks. they have established costs use as well. and we also know that the internet has been very, very slow. how appears it has been blocked as well. so it's very difficult to get information coming out of that region, but we're told that the 5 thing is intensify. now this group plan uh is a group that is phase in, i'm hire a region, we know that it doesn't have full month's formal structures, but then it has been there for

a while us. and we also know that during the conflict between the governmental, federal forces integrated to guy and i'm har on neighboring regions. so during that conflict of a to guide 2 years ago, i signed the back of the government. and uh, somehow the government provided weapons to find out, and that is what the fight is about now because the government was to do this, um, uh, this uh slices. but they say no. oh, we also know that some domestic flights have been canceled because of what is going on and the situation is very, very fluid. and we have also spoken to some people that said that, that they are very fearful about what's going on. does

a lot of i'm starting to see and they want this resolved as quickly as possible, cause we saw it all to 0 inside story. the. let's bring it out, guests then from jake, jake, up in the airport, we're joined by a come on how she must have moved to the middle of the opium part of it from new york. but we're joined by your how does world of money? i'm an academic at e, c o, p, a research of specializing in the whole of africa and from charlotte, north carolina, to what rose tiff a chapman of the founding member of the i'm how to association of america gentlemen, welcome to all of you. let's start with you to address many people outside of the view. if you may have interpreted the front of fighting alongside the national lobby integral, i as support for private as the i'll be, i'm at the, and his policies. that was not the case. you know, that is not the case. this is a really a complete misunderstanding on the video of, of the western observers of what's happening. you'll be on the do you know how

people, the photos and the, i'm how we get a special forces when they were fighting and the war in northern ethiopia. and they were fighting to defend themselves because they weren't invaded by the 2 bad people . the, the, the version of the front on multiple occasions. so the fight in the war in northern ethiopia, but down hard people was mistaken of the support of, of the idea that when in actuality what it was really was a defense, a self defense i guess, to envision for invading forces to drive people to the russian font, but it's really critically important to give you an idea of some context. what we are witnessing right now in the, on our region is a build up of decades long political, marginalization, subjugation and genocide, been committed a guest on how people buy successive redeems. he meets your guy, starting out with adobe game, followed by the 2 bad people, separation front and nob. i'd. i'd be on that. all the of his or a little posterity party says i'd be came to power the atrocities a guess a miles of best collated then was all this other models have been investigated and

this whole region of oral meal, but over a 1000000 miles have been ethnically cleansed, from that region, us admitted by government and not the same policy of targeting armoire us based on the has been implemented in i just saw in our region where thousands of homes in not this of, of nano ramos majority of mars, have been destroyed in over 20 must go also destroyed, leaving hundreds of thousands of on models and not, or almost to be homeless on many of them. that's a good class for me. i this of says, this is out of the have that came to part of this is what people have been witnessing the current fighting the current fighting between august security forces and the on the people started went down the unilaterally, unconstitutionally. and without consultation with them, how people set the security forces to disarm and dissolve. yamaha originals, special forces, subjects, specialist forces and started attacking. the fondles was the time of chain yesterday, a resting, done this of generalist pond, the politicians,

human rights activists. and they use in the past week over 4000 miles and decide what had been arrested and placed in cost of tracing caps. this is a war started by abby on that i guess the on hard people, people are just simply fighting for survival. honestly, military, you actually just quickly, it's important to note yes. go to orders. i was recently beginning of the program, the permit us to order the old part of the tree forces across the 11 regions of the country to be integrated into the police of an actual lobby of saying that i'm how it has been singled out for me, particularly brutal treatment here, of course, and this has been the case for the assist you, came into power dam. our people have been purchasing, and i'm showing the discount to, to be on bed before the war and know that if you will be out during the war and know that if you'll go after the war and know that you'll be out there. as i said, this was the bottom amount of people have been primarily targeted by the abbe

redeem, soon as he came to power. that's why you are seeing right now defined by the people, i guess, the fabulous security forces. right now, i'm just military's using artillery tanks and drones and firing indiscriminately as cities coming dozens of people, the women being raped and heritage sites are being destroyed. and what we're asking is for the international community to condemn this genocide of the bylaws of target to an entire ethnic group and to hold abbey in his government accountable. you had us in new york easy affairs. we know is, is a deeply emphasized country to what extent is as of the, of it made tensions was in the early days of his 10 year. his words including isn't over here to address it, which ignores past wrongs and his commitment to addressing identity and board of concerns were welcomed by people in amada. so why people so dissatisfied with his leadership, what, what's going wrong?

let me address the initial speak kind of a little bit because he alludes to here. i'm the, i'm how to being marginalized, that historically one can take the long view and they showed a view in this issue. and the, the long view, the actually is the direct opposite of what the speaker was saying. the i'm, how do i with the pivot, the ability to appear in the auto mall people. although the majority had been marginalized in the past, or even i, unable to speak and develop their language, so it to conflict his, the vision isn't to present the i'm had as the victims and the short run. i agree with some of the things you mentioned about to the displacement of them. how do i? but this has also has started good reasons because a lot of this people where the stuff i'm in the or on the i region during the

members. so what i seen as part of is water strategy and the so and then what people they are already then so the people be gotten to resent them from the very beginning because they want to come into their lives. so this is a little bit of a, a twist is trying to kind of the, you know, the facts that exist. and then in terms of abigail from it, i'd be a how many has made things much worse. he is a very much of an adventure to the one who wished against the grand people at the general side really that he committed against the young people is something that has not been witnessed since or wanda and africa. and so within 5 years it has part of the is the country to the point where it's just integrating to begin with. ethiopia is really what sustained by western budgetary aid and

political and military support. it's a very weak state to begin with. you know, i know in the us foreign policy, it's described as i'm kind of the 105 for got the more accurate description of the dfacs that the decided lighting for us in the profit got it has to be in that ever since the end of world war 2 and the beginning of the debate south is in a most people don't realize this, but it was, uh, i mean the minute the, the of the founder of murder media. you was cutting the southern youtube. yep. the autumn of egypt. and decided to call it isaac, how long was it? there wasn't just so you can call any of this may not fit that there was an aspect of it. it gives us a compelling visit. and then it was positioned historically in a id on a situation where you can get weapons from the europeans by manipulating this power without power. and using the mythology, that is the, this is ology that deeply exists in the western world. he was able to acquire and

weapons and conquer this of the month. and so what we're seeing here is something that has been building up, but about a 100 years. and finally, things are coming to avoid. and we are witnessing now. i'm in a country on the verge of this integration is, might have about how she moved. what do you make of, of, of what you've heard from off from all to guess is, is the country on the village of disintegration? i think the counties on the right to the way the jumping to the window of the unity which is just never been seen. but i see a dfcs gwen going i see uh, stopping it is uh up and then get busy with loving their own uh, publish butt. let's be honest. now the why to get to know the integrated, you know, as a business tablet, whatever the situation now is that it's tablets the need to do the legion hopefully. so this is the what you see when it comes to going order and the speech

golf outlet, what doesn't just say all of you, not blame the problem, stuff directly, kind of getting them on our people. i don't see an individual issue here less. you own us, so you can switch them from the amount of people why? so a lot of people, these people are listed by their own government, which they have elected over the broader the democrats accounting. they'll be showing different, but it will government. so the federal government giving disclose to the amount of people. so it's not the set only a being, you know, the only act that here is i know he's the, is the, the view of the, the, to the sure. but is this the government which trying to work for the safety and security of the community? so the dog and establish the english and the model people will come back again to leave their own for my life because they're just being a piece, you know, being the, the will and i, the culture and another sector. the model committee will law for. so we have to see

a lot of ways that this country is going without being the, the get stick on. i mean, i'll add a new stuff, we got a very good pollution, so thought not be caught. so let's see. the other thing is that the company is, you know, as a chipping a bunch of course, the citrus like this happened, but we have to meet that the, give them just trying to spit, to make sure that you know, the count that it gets comes together. that's why the law enforcement, the measures less the one the happening in a lot of these, you know, needed to make sure that there's only one you know, strong. i me for the, you know, uh uh, the 1st force that would be, you know, watching for the safety and security of the whole clements. you need to about the set of revenues, you know, let me get out there to disturb. don't get the situations to. so i agree that the other way is happening or the things right? yeah. let's, let's bring in 2000. he, well, he wants to get in here to order us that. yes, adrian, us, us the only,

i'm our policy or if i have the, if i can be given an opportunity to respond to both of these, i guess i would really appreciate it because there's a lot of false claims that are being made here. number one and respond to this member of parliament that's here. the allowed people do not have their own representative. they do not have their own government. in fact, the region is now under the state of emergency. the federal government is managing the all region and has this is april by 5 federal agencies that people have never elected their government. the source of instability in the region in the country is obviously the, the, or will prosperity party. that is very clear. we the war, do not know that the if you help you out as the, the, i had never ended this, especially it's the session of opportunities agreement that was signed between the t p a that a b i, b, i a, and an abbey party with a flood process that was not exclusive, it was exclusionary,

it did not include all the stakeholders, it would be, it excluded the people and the people from the process. and we have set up that time. we weren't that there was not going to be peace in the country on this. all the stakeholders aren't included. the people had their own negotiation delegation ready to participate in the process. there were excluded as a result of that. we have another war started by abby on that again, in the region. we are asking for is an inclusive process that includes all the stakeholders or else what we're seeing right now in our region. we'll brought into other parts of if you'll be a possibly golf the entire horn of africa. the final is right now has taken over an hour, at least 3 majority of good job. they are inside the capitol of yamaha region in the heart, dark valley, i guess the obvious, the military, many parts of good job or not. i mean a wonderful and not sure, and also go under a know under the fund or administration. and so this is one of the largest regions

in the country under find the right now and the funding is continuing. and what we're asking for is for the international stakeholders to quickly come in and condemn. i'd be, i'm that regina for the, the, for the instability in the country in the region and not to hold him and his government accountable. so we can move away from this region into a civilian the transitional government where we can have constitutional reform. i occurred on democracy, justice and accountability. something that has escaped this for decades us, i'll come or come to you in just a 2nd, but 1st come on how she, how about do? do you want to respond to what you've just hood? i don't know where this comes down to the that's the idea alpha. uh, mentioning that a lot of people are excluded in any, in a, it'll give a hotel, a decision making process into fact to a little. and also they be all saying that the amount of people i was never elected, like like we had an emission, you know, your say go where with the, you know,

you know how to region. you know, it's another part to solve oakland district. of course they have had some success in both or did you know the part of that much? but the prosperity party was reading the company, has one to buy jewelry to position and, and many people, if i bought i, it's me to, to sort blocks up also to them. but i have read me a one day lashan republican people. and i'm reading the agent and also the funding the committee and keep up the federal government. so i, so i see that like i do is, you know, saying, you know, like the mom of the birth of dad, excluded. i. let's what i was saying that the people i've only elected when you know like, oh, because he's bought this, i only reading religion and that i don't see that to be fair and over scientific way of looking at things. so let's be on us. the ability to take that by model of the people. but of course this could be an accomplice that continues that they say

they're going to do for us, which, which would be okay with you now that he just or any other accounts in the world. and us could be up here, but the genetic, the fact about that as being a free and fair election to move out of the collection. which as being you're looking at is that by many dimensional this to choose and to hold you to pass as well. the main goal that i don't know when we're talking about these grid. so i'll drop ship, you might want to speak out at least accept us. so fox us and then the business arguments on that. but the coming like in before she could just blindly noise election. nobody has been elected. i don't see those going to be fixed, and it's taking dolphin know a little fun most. why did the region, but a freight thing again, it's difficult. uh for us. i think they should be advised that fight all the english or the inferential people in the community. because with this fight was going to be affected into the community, which i did what a lot about it at, by both forces to beat the force. i mean, the national defense was okay, fine,

most doubt to think over. so with this problem who's going to affect the most of the community? and that's to make sure that, that this would go fairly as clear. you all, it is combined discussion. say you shouldn't pop a new suit. all right, let, let me, let me bring in your how does your, how does to extend this is been driving us the possible. okay. yeah. okay. towards very quickly if you can get me a one minute on. so it's very grateful just just very quickly cuz it's important that your audience understands. this was the big election, the government won over 90 percent of the returns. 90 percent of the apartment is, is uh, is uh, seated by the prosperity party. so this wasn't a fair and a fair election that was held. there was a risk and determination of opposition. political party members, in many parts of the country. the opposition political party members decided not to participate in the election because there were been procedures the by the government. so this is really

a few lies than i thought we done. the member of parliament is putting all okay. yeah, yeah. how does, what was it a free and fair election? to what extent is the private as the end of a possible position here, and then hopefully criticized for whatever he does or doesn't do and how to the people. if i'm out of that, that grievances, maybe genuine, but all the moms reasonable i agree with the last speaker about the election. the election was completely for other men and it was very ill timed. it was done when the, i mean just, it's clear that the grand people completely and, and even internally, i mean that's when you're the only one the election. you're going to win for sure. and that's what i need to basically. and the, the issue here is ivy came to power a kind of variety on the back of the rebellion by the or the people and to some extent, by the people as well. and there was, uh, you know, uh, this whole,

this, the unreasonable hope you 40. yeah. initially when he came to power, i mean, even the europeans and the west and us gave him the prize without really understanding of who the mind is. this is a very dangerous man, and we're seeing that in 5 years. so how dangerous situation, his creator, ethiopia, is a very difficult place to govern, even for the most seasoned and sophisticated in the well meeting politician. but here we have a very power hungry person. i don't know if you've heard, but he's building a passport himself. that costs about $10000000000.00, even when the people in the blog started me. and the economic situation is out better than the guns on west i'm aide to call it. and so i'm money and from the outside from the middle east, from all kinds of places in order to build a country and or so. i mean, it's uh, with regards to the on how to, historically,

there is no dispute that they have been the privilege people in ethiopia. i mean, anybody can tell you this even so i'm honest, i'm honest, i'm down to get when i came to power, you had expected him to be there but, but basically already is anybody he's not for the almost is not for them. how do i, it's not for anybody. i mean for himself you want isn't oxidative has power and he wants to stay in power at the any cost. and that's why he didn't have a problem to was a 1000000 people die. and these are things like everything is, i mean like it hasn't done anything, i mean means imagine community is not organ him on track again. he is even talking about invading a neighboring country to amex, lots of that other country. and this is just plus trust type time is the time is against the strength when we pick up the burden of time left. so. so a brief onset from you 1st come out before i ask you another question here. did you want to, how do you respond to that?

but i mean, i'm, it is a dangerous, a power hungry, hungry, dangerous man. i would say also to, you know, uh the, the, the, the fact that the my by the products that only putting data out only i, you give us the prime minister who's a single person in the system with the government is, is bet unless the end of that class, i remember, you know, based on government data by party i would up should, instead of going with was, you know, to look at the bunch of them how things are going. but putting all things together . again, that's the only the problem is to i think it looks like i see if uh how some groups are, you know, buckets, they're totally yourself to defend the problem. instead of why they see practically what's happening, all the initiatives and the legacy. the problem says, leaving behind me to a bit of c, c has kept a despite that instead of instead of going to the company and all the contribution who's making dimension edition is driving the industry. so all i see somebody has

to be a little bit. he said, how does that give us the prime minister? i don't know why don't know the reason why they really helped him. dr. much does only out see old mobile data is coming around dots only out of popular that gives a try. mr. i don't going to see any of the stuff comes out of the need or didn't of us with the community, and i'm finally get. i didn't need to have to do the same stuff. the committee i'll, i'll leave that this time to speak off. uh, make sure you got this one in this making sure that this situation is very pretty, and they're very local throughout the for the card though, for the motto committee. and i bought a vision. but all that, arguments out a single piece of building apollo's right. he's up for, he's going to page one of the neighboring countries. what's the problem? okay. but i feel like a regular step on the have to interrupt you. we're, we're almost done. have time to but yeah, you had us for a very quick answer for you as well. if we can find that to you. yes. okay. i do have some issues. adrian made a lot of people by you on. so these numbers are good. now, cody seconds. yeah,

yeah, number love them. how people have not been privileged historically that is false and that is a lie that people are putting out there to justify a tax. i guess i'm our us, the earlier he has said that the a minus was settled into or on the about them and just to redeem that there was resentment and he justified the ethnic listing of a model. which in these people are these people. yeah. there's one in one particular issue, you can call them because it okay, look like when you called us i live by the okay, i did that but, but that's an opinion that the icon, icons substantiate here, but we're almost out of time behind us. 30 seconds is this conflict the control without much size or is it set to escalate? just to answer the question, please. the questions you count this, this discount for the 6th is just escalate because it is now both with this and you'll have all the time. yeah. yeah, yeah. how does that? yes. okay. the fact that the hot our to south and being the only out of these are not that big. what a privilege is. yeah, it has to be of just all right,

just on. so the question isn't as conflict that it's set to escalate? oh no, this is their company on the verge of just think they should. i use a lot of countries. i mean, if it's going to be salvage due to it'd be a medical. yeah. i'd come out, it could, are you confident this conflict can be broken under control? yeah, absolutely. and the whole point of flops. this is step as much as used to be done or control it because you're able to see them. how did you not do whatever they want without going to us and that did you become a comfortable this? so can we do monday? and hopefully, if i'm going to send a bunch of these, a lot of you for a lot of discussion and i ask everybody to contribute just to come me to come to the phone just as genuine. the, i'm afraid we're gonna have to read a manufacture date for taking part in the program today. i really do appreciate it . as always. thank you for watching certificate. you can see the program again at any time by going to the website of out 0 dot com for further discussion. join us about facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash

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