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youtube. be part of today's chat, the hello rachel and jennifer and alex associates have this expert panel here today on the stream. rachel, police, they highlight the audience around the well tennessee you on what you do. hi, sammy sam, greetings, tom. my name is dr. rachel snow and i'm the chief of population and development at the u. n. population funds based in new york, and we support census and how to use census data in more than a 130 countries across the world. how identify, welcome to the stay and tell the viewers around the route and you on what you day. i a. hi, sammy, i'm so glad to be here. i'm dr. jennifer schubert. i am a scholar at the woodrow wilson center and author of the new book, 8000000000 in counting house, sex death and migration shape our world. thanks for being with us and alex, welcome back to the stream. good to seeing you again. remind the audience who you are and what you day. i think you find me. thank you for having me back. i prefer

alex as a those my preference of global. how does bicycle of public health directory investigating shut off? yeah, i found the demographic by trending on previously, i found as the executive director of the african publish them and how it's reflection thing. my review and i also found on the u. n. i left locked registry board for the clinic. i'm finishing my friends. so guess it's really hard to me to grapple with what a 1000000000 people looks like. what that feels like. well, i feel different on november, the 15th, and i do right now, rachel. know you worked in simple terms. yeah. um this has been a while coming and uh you won't feel much on the 15th of november. that's jennifer when we talk about a number like 8000000000. if you're studying population, then you knew it was coming. i remember at school we were just really worried about

how many more billions of people come in a civil life on the golf. and he, we are at 8 put in. what does that mean for most of us? how should we think about that number? well, you know, i also remember studying this in school and actually i think that's how i ended up making career career of studying population. because to rachel's point, you know what we feel any different. i remember sitting in 1999, i think it was october 15th 1999 in a college classroom in atlanta where i'm from and my professor was late to class that day. and then she paused in the door and had a black arm band on, and she marched into class and said today, world population headsets, 6000000000 people, this is a travesty. i never had kids. you shouldn't either. and so i think for many people there's the sense that every time we hit a 1000000000, this is it, we're about to, it's like we're going to tip over the edge. you know, when you're, you're pouring something in a bowl and you're just waiting for it to spill over. but here we still are, which i think is a really good thing for us to remember. i've, i've seen

a few 1000000000 in my lifetime, and i like to think of myself is pretty young. so i don't think we have to look at the system doomsday. finally arriving. alex does not mobile number mean anything to somebody who studies, demographics like new, knew this number was coming. you understand what it means doesn't give a pause. i can't say i'm not necessarily does. it gives me that pause is just simply means that it is a duty. i'm not, i'm not you stand by and that number 622, the it'd be something. and by 2036, it would be 10400000000. so we will continue to grow. i think as we go forward, is just a number in many ways, but my sense is that it is also a time for us to pick a defined as to what does that truly mean uh, file size the mattress. i'm just looking at some of the comments we have for matthew is around the world. this is about to show you and publish

a new says the world isn't over populated. it's just a matter of management, right? so you're not doing out, can i, you know, not indeed, indeed, i would, i would not. and i also want to point out that the, the, the growth of the population is slowing down. you know, the pace at which the world was growing peak to 1964. and so we've been declining in terms of the piece. you know, it's, we're less that we're growing by less than one percent per year. we've got, i think, 53 countries in the world that are now and population decline. china, for example, 1400000000 is picking this year. and by 2100, your projected to be down to 800000000. so if things are turning, the pace is slowing. this is really important. i think it's going to give us time to, to catch up a one way. but i do think i see why people feel like this though. i mean, i think all through all 3 of us are used to people throwing doomsday scenarios at

us. because while we know these global trends, and i'm sure all 3 of us are on the same page with wanting to emphasize the slowing pace of growth and population aging, i know that for some people it can feel really different. and that's because that a 1000000000 number disguises the diversity of trends around the world. and we've really never been so far apart in terms of our birth and death and, and even migration trends. and so, you know, there areas in the world where fertility is still very high population growth as high people feel the environmental strains that come from a very basic relationship between people and the environment around them from the family farm. i come in here, i think also one of the things that we would need to pay attention to is the understand that the 1000000000 must a huge diversity that we've currently experienced across different parts of the world. uh, just this year. i know we have more than 40 countries,

i'm to retrieve that i experienced in population decline, and i'll try additional pre owned vehicle fission on focus on right, the popular shape growth has clouded the thinking to clearly understand the implications of this divergent try and such. we as seen around the world that there are, as many countries have been published on decline and it will continue to be an issue going forward. so the controversial grow. i don't want to dimensional for the conscious going to think of as a couple of examples of the countries where that population is going down. oh, if you think forest as a place like south korea, it's population is probably a 52000000. it is projected to be 24000000 by 2100. last time south korea was in the 24000000 people watching the fifty's. so it's a massive change that will be a. busy number of countries by 2015 more than

a few countries on 30 trans won't be experiencing population decline. right, so i think united, really interesting when we think about the um you know, putting juxtaposing south korea's change over time with some of the places where population is still growing. because on the flip side of that, they are a countries in the world that will account for more than half of the world population growth between now and 2050. and one of those is egypt, which, you know, egypt leadership had, famously compared egypt population to south korea's many decades ago and, and in 2008. and had noted that many decades ago both countries had similar population sizes. and then that just totally went into different directions after that to hi, i think the, the diversity that the both jennifer and alex are, are emphasizing is like a huge lean board. i think it's really part of the big story for the 8000000000 is we're so diverse. and another example of that is but europe, on average, like the median age in europe, is close to $4541.00 and

a half. the median age in sub saharan africa is 17 and, and so it's not just that the pace of growth is really different in these countries . but we have very different age structures. so you know, you, you want to understand and kind of create a global community. but we're looking at, at governments and countries here that are dealing with very different populations in terms of age. and so the thinking may be different, and we that's gonna attract some diplomacy and some effort between us to tell them more unified response to global crises of what bring a new voice into our conversation. and this is a professor of global development at cornell university. alex, i'm going to play this comment for you and i'd really be interested on why you take the idea next. so k is paul say it'd be in population is an important milestone. but what it means is going to vary quite a bit across countries. in developing regions where population is still throwing

a one main concern is going to be guard and the quality to verify. i sent a decline in most of african countries from the top down. and what that means is you have an increase in concentration, affinity among the poor, and at a time when the levels of education. so rising, where the quality of education and the costs of education is rising. what that means is that you're going to have increasing differences in the educational opportunities that are available to children in the upper tier of the income distribution compared to children who come from families that are poor spots. thanks time me. so i can get a couple of days to a break down here and what frustrated in the get to the 1st is if you look at the countries we ask that lift gate is still very high. we might not see how the many children like 4 or 56 in the country like new j

r d r can go on monday where the. busy rates of growth of the population is a 3 percent or more. it means that the population is doubling every 20 years. also in the j is actually every 18 years in congress. i thought every 21 years. so we did the tv. uh, it is very difficult, it's nearly impossible for that country to be able to double the investments the mention in health, education, nutrition, jobs, all defense that constitutes well being on who might improve. i see who my uh, capacity and, and i'm on those improvements. so invest based on them, you know, it's difficult to maintain the quality of life as it is a you need to be able to dealt with those investments and that my city over at the shop did you have time to make the correct level itself seem that'd be great coverage of health and education and all that. so that's the problem. the other big

charlotte, i think where people think about it, the is the 5, the gary's a significant shift and where these populations are based on look at that currently africa accounts for about 18 percent of the global population is projected to get about 2425 percent, and by 2050 and 46 percent by 2100. so when you look at that's a statistic i you then think about the tool, nearly $1.00 and $2.00 people in the world will be africa. what does that mean for global governance? and for equity, and for all of alex, what does that, what does that mean? does that mean that africa will be the most powerful, confident in the world, but it won't mean differences for different people. again, from me, i say it's not a question of whether we have 4 piano, 4600000000 or 6000000000 africans is the question of what quality of people advise?

i did all the educated, how the productive citizens are. they're sick and on the educated. i'm on for and i think so that's really much all for me. the point of both countries which are very high rates of growth of the population cover in the late fees that get ability to make the necessary investments in improving who month quality would be constrained by the rate of growth. right? yeah, for the shop products. so i think, i think he that's, that's so much for your tools, like just on the continents around think i'm going to put you on the just a little bit because if we know our population is growing, we know this is happening, planning and of empowering is going to be at some, a critical rachel, i want you to use a rubbing, can cause welcom king has a thought and then build off robbins for a. she is planning she'd be more participatory with citizens of different ages, social groups at the new cities,

and different geographic locations within the city so that everyone together can create a vision of what they want the city to be. tomorrow she generations from now 5 generations from now is there room planning deals with infrastructure that's going to last a very long time beyond the generations of, of the folks that are involved in that right. now. in addition, the process should help us educate each other about what sustainable consumption patterns really are, so that we can leave the planet better for future generations as well. she's right that there needs to be more collective planning but, but even to plan from a single government, you gotta have excellent data in part of why we push the census and we need to make these, you know, population incense that's happening. happening around the world is because, you know, governments absolutely need to be able to project to what is coming in the next 23

decades. there was a great stop from, from, or frightening start from the world bank. i came across recently and it said goodness, but something like across the continent of africa, you know, the infrastructure for education at the moment can only accommodate about 40 percent of school age children. and as alex says, we have more and more children who will be coming in in the region. so, you know, investment is crucial, or immunization is happening quickly. we need excellent data. we need planning, we need to participatory planning, and we need a global engagement. it's true, it's going to be very, very difficult for governments to do this alone. i am to what it is called it be in the field of demography though. i mean, i'm sure great. so alex, still the same way we have a we stand out among the trends because we can see the future and other people can't. and it's because so many people of the future are already born. so when you think about the planning that needs to happen, i totally agree with rachel that we need more data. but the good news is,

it's not as if we have no idea how many kindergarten classrooms will need and for years how many seats on the not. so we know, you know, so we can look at that in there today. but all various governments and various communities, are they planning, knowing that you're right. i didn't think of it like that. well, she got children, kindergarten or nurse real genius school. you know what, what are they going to need or the lifetime? are you seeing that? because it may well be out of see the future, but you can also see these all coming to as you can. i mean, you know, and i think this is where i am. and i always emphasize to people that the same population trend and 2 different countries can look completely different. so you know, a couple of communities that i know that are planning for this is the national security community. yeah, they can look at those kindergarten classrooms today and think about their potential recruiting pool for the military, you know, in just 15 years or so. so yeah, they're well aware of this and they take a long view on things anyway. but if we look at something like social security and

we don't exactly know what age people will retire, that people might think that they do, but it differs widely around the world. uh, the average age of workforce excellence in france is 61 years. but in japan, it's 71 years. and so, you know, we can differ even among old countries. and so some of these rules of the game or institutions like in a democracy, it's really hard to change policy because voters say, yeah, no thanks, we're not doing that. but in, in countries that are aging, but they don't necessarily give the people voice in changing policy. you actually might see retirement policies and ages uh, increased much faster. all right, i'm definitely good at the moment alex if, if, if i may, cuz i want to bring it out or that so watching, because often they have misconceptions about what the population growth means. i'm going to give you each 30 seconds to also question like this, or i can so how many people can be of sustain alex? do wanna take that one. so thank you. you're welcome is not as simple as a oh yes,

x not on on that, but it is a function of the job that people uh, that's uh on the base our company to our company initially said the us is different from ms. yeah. um, it depends on our consumption. sometimes it depends on how a productivity as a group on all these factors matter. i think we increase in the quality it makes you tell that the 1st 10 and much larger population. but if we have a cost society, many ways we can support a whole lot more about the sum of all space. the world is overpopulated or surface things will never get better. it's too late. rachel, instantly option. no, not at all. 8000000000 people's a 1000000000, potentially brilliant, new ideas that will increase food production that will figure out new very

cool ways for people to learn on the internet that will think about, you know, ways to multiply the number of teachers. it's, i'm much more optimistic. all right, this, this, this is paul on it on youtube. he's watching us right now. jennifer posts as a government planning question mark. those individuals who make up government, current safety, owns and next election cynicism from the chief who would have thought it. i actually don't disagree with paul. is that my husband paul? because the the yes and that's why i tend to be i'm also an optimist in general. but if there's anywhere that the pessimism starts to sneak in, it actually is when we think about democracies and how hard it is to change policy now. and that is because it like the leaders have the short term views. however, i will say even something simple like just to stick on retirement for a 2nd because it really does matter. official retirement age is one thing, but there are all sorts of rules,

a whole rainbow or rules around ways that people are able to exit the workforce. and sometimes you can get some play at the margins that make a big difference in the overall trend. let's just have a look at what via added to our conversation. she joined us a little bit audio on it and told us this. we're looking at managing and impact 8000000000 people. having this completion seems to be mindful to food energy increase. so this naturally means that greenhouse gas emissions really increase as well once be high, particularly used to level of consumption. these can say at the level low income countries all today. so the whole nation i mentioned it's likely to be to increase income later. hi, the what, why is it that was telling a lot of the iced in our audience and an around the well,

what people think it was so many of us on this us. how could they possibly sustain it? i am going to look ahead now to 2050 and where the population will be in 2050. you will well ahead of me. so let's do this together. and guess as somebody said, well, population by 2050 will be 9700000000. and then what part of the, well, we'll see the biggest growth fall across the african continent expected to contribute most of the cost with this population increase bots. populations of $61.00 countries are projected to decrease by one percent or more. and then here's the good news we didn't really talk about the good news, so much simpleton, average global life span by 2050 would increase to around 77.2 years, which is about 4 years from where it is currently. and jennifer, this is, this is the good news of this. a 1000000000 is the reason why they all say many

people in the us is because we're healthy, a living longer, as well as babies being born in some pots. but well that's, that's more than one thing. happening here, who should be celebrating that while we're living slowly and we should be celebrating population aging. i mean, i think there's a tendency to whatever the trend is. people think, well that's just bad news. yeah. there are times in history. there are too many people and then there are times of to few people. it's like all the locks in the port it's. it's never just right. so when i see numbers about population aging, i think how fantastic women and partners are able to choose how many children they want, they're able to act on that. but it is generally an indicator that there's widespread education, that quality of life is high and that some people are living longer. well, let's not be upset about that, especially when we wrong our hands over high fertility for decades. well, now we're saying wait, there's too many people. and i think also we have to be careful because one thing

that hasn't come up so far is who gets blamed for all of this. it's typically women . the women are having too many or too few children. so when people say over population, i think they want to say it's those women over there who are having too many children, and they don't think about their own role in their own consumption and their lifestyles. there is some yeah, i do. i do want to can i jump in? yeah. to that. yeah. i just want to jump in and, and, and in the comment that let's remember that there are still millions of women who don't have access to modern contraception. who don't have access to still primary education, who if they get pregnant at 14 or 15, are not able to finish school. so we do still have quite a bit of work to do in terms of assuring him as jennifer was sort of just alluding to we want to have a world where everybody can choose the number and the timing of children. there's no questions that's good for kids. it's good for communities it's, it's good for everyone. yeah. but, but it isn't the case at this juncture. still we have, you know,

something around like 200000000 people have people who still don't have full access to reproductive rights. right. so it's a really good point for me to bring in one last voice into conversation, and that is florence, his voice, who ends on the point that you just made. sure, the population continues to grow by a 10000000 people tell you what should be consent. climate change deforestation war to unfold, shortages pollution as well as by with a foster tools which would never talk enough about only becoming difficult to manage without increasing numbers. additionally, the people affected the most by a growing population of the young goes on women who are supposed to be the child barrows on child guerrero's. can we do anything above these? yes, we can bring the numbers down. we can do positive, ethical, as well as cost effective things that can benefit human beings, as well as the pressure of our planets. this is such a huge topic. i would have a speech to write. so and jennifer and alex, when the alex,

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