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basically, and the un fits of purpose was like many critics sites just pub solution doesn't get anywhere near enough done to the amount of money that is put into a hard hitting in to be you think about to the minus on washing it's enough for money to go on its own and to build it's on thoughts providing on for centuries, people have been taken care of are. so i have every confidence that future generations will do it as well. you the story on told to how does era the hi anthony ok. welcome to the stream name to a screen because i want to show you some videos of cuz taking a chunk out of a category, the
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cadillac, or, you know, i have several in the, the 3 of us both rogers we lost both, brought us now that was an ice today said incident in the last year, for instance, up into 100, no consultations between boats and orchestra, but nobody knows quite why. but we have a panel of experts who are going to shed that excellent theories with us today. so to talk about what were things ok from friday hall, but in the us state of washington, dublin y'all's science and research director for the organization. wild ok, also known as jobs from reykjavik compa, pull watson, marine wildlife conservation activist on the founder of the captain per watson foundation. and in august political opportunity to pull out a professional skip. but i know you're going to have questions. audience watching on youtube comments section is life have states looking forward to doing that
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festival dollars and pool an all tour? i am going to do a little cheat sheet about oil cuz i had one more box when i finished that you know about because the most people do not know. so let's start with a name the what that company known as killer whales. but the actually the largest family of the dolphin, the of the doping family, the largest member of the adult and family. they can miss a really long time up to 90 years old. i'm that brain. i'm intimidated now. 5 times larger than a human beings. brain cells, one more fat that will supply that audience around the world. about lucas, they're incredibly socially bonded with their family members. and call somebody else. well, they're the, they're the most powerful predator on the, on the planet. and yet they've never ever attacked or injured a human being in the wild. so interesting in the well,
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that's really important. back and all to somebody thing. you've learned about orcus, they are very intelligent, smart animals. they work in groups. they can help together isn't with another kind of suspicious in some regions of the words. they have different behaviors in different parts of the words. that's what i know about sources and data. very friendly with humans. that's for sure. so as these number of confrontations between both and not at all cuz have gone up up the general public. so maybe even the se in public a quote, the attacks. but any of we spoke to monica gonzalez and she explained why we shouldn't call them attacks. why would you call them something? yes, this is what she we have some population about 35 individuals of even, you know, across in this book relation a, on the existing interact with both in the,
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in this be seen to others. and the rest do be nice. it seems 2020. these relation to be very in norcross, is subject to interact with folks. we always use the word interaction because i thought these just for a few months is when you are doing something trying to hurt or to damage. somebody is not the case and how it is so population. so we always use the work interaction onto a user experience and or create interaction. it was late at night. we have to video . the video is super disturbing. tough fast. what we're about to see, because it looks like the beginning of a higher movie just because it's so dark and you're not sure what's going on. what happened? exactly. it was scary. that's the 1st minutes. very, very scary. that's the 1st search. i thought it was a wooden. these are ship pilots because was
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a bomb. not so strong. ok. and that was a gets tired that the time because it's 4 o'clock in the morning was my turn to goes to me. and i felt that's on the boat. and they came out, i have my crew on the watch and i asked her, what's happened then? she said, i did a search anything. and i was scared about to that's really, really, really scared about that because i was realized, sony. that's was in a narc interaction. no. and the boat is not mine. i'm delivering the, oh, i get a possible. yeah. yeah. it's not going by. we show the video, but i'm going to stop talking all to so that we cannot just see the sound because the sound is quite something that's kind of video again, with the sound or the
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jobs. what do you think was happening that because there was so many series as to why? oak as being attracted to boats. i'm more more so um yeah. so i, i, i can only imagine how terrifying that must be, especially in the middle of the night when you don't have any visual on what's really happening. but um, from my experience with killer wells and um, from, from what i understand is happening uh in spain and portugal. it, it really, truly seems to me that these wells are just interested in the bottom part of the boat. things that protrude from the boat, the rudder or keel, which sticks out down into the water column. and the video that i saw that was taken of this uh, sailing boat that was in a race really showed these wells, rubbing their head one well,
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rubbing his head against this protruding bed. and um, you know, these are incredibly intelligent tactile animals that interact regularly with things in their environment. and that's what it looks like to me. cool. i was trying to find some videos here in the 19 seventy's going on a ride was an ok. it was kind of accidental, but we don't have the video. can you explain what happened in the school life that experience for us please? well, that was during the 1st green piece campaign to protect wales in the pacific, and i found myself in the straits of beller bella with an oncoming part of the orders. and 3 of us for some strange recent, decided to go into the water in front of them as they were coming towards us. and uh, went all, you'll know, your head is out of the water and you see a pot of work is coming from you, especially back then it was very intimidated. and then they all drove and disappeared. and that's even more intimidating. then suddenly they rose up alongside of us and i was able to grab the the door, so one of them and just went along with them for about
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a 100 meters until i was picked up and it's tail. but what struck me at the time was here as the most powerful plat predator on the planet. you don't go up to a lie and petted the live in those there and getting. but this, this predator allowed me to ride along with it. and that to me, expresses that they, i think they understand what we are, they understand how intelligent we are and how dis dangerous. we are. and i think they want to live in co existence with effect. that's what i believe. and that's why i don't think they've ever attacked people in the, in the world. that's so interesting i, i'm going to bring in this sentiment here. and there is a fairy about why more because of confronting boats. and it's known as the white glove is very and that's because of the cold white gladys. i had a number of confrontations with bunch and they were feeling that maybe she was upset. she was pregnant. she was maybe looking off to cough. that is one theory. she is nice talking about the idea of lucas, maybe extracting as angel is this is having none of that at 7 look. these or kids
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have been around these watchers for many, many years. it's an adrenalin rush to the animals. i certainly don't think it's revenge. is a very, very powerful on the most. and if you want to do some see these damage the con. alright, okay, kill us if they wanted to, but they don't. so all to, uh, what are they doing around boats? with my experience, i learn and they are not attacking, they don't want to damage the boat's visa because the rather it's the most sensible parts, it's very weak parts of the boat. it's like a surf boards, some or others are very weak. it's fall in rather than they are not to attacks and the physically not it's uh they are defending their hunting area. they are playing
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boats because our play with boats, it's normal. it's happened before or i think it's something like that. mm pool. what, what is your theory as to why focus a now gathering around both and it's happening in spain and portugal and a number of different types of take, not just $11.00, plus i'm going to share the new ferry with pul, cuz i feel good, slightly different there we go, helpful. well, i would like to think that they're sending us a message. i would like to think that they're expressing their anger, but i really think it's coming down to a play a learn that it's a learning thing. they've learned how to do this and they pass it on to other or cuz, and i don't think there's anything there. any animosity there. i mean, pre meditated re banners. that's a human characteristic. there's no evidence that that exists with that with with orc is so i think it's really a matter of play. so we need to have pre meditated revenge dollars. she started to
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smile, but they have focused ways, a way bigger than our brains. why would, would things not be a full that would go for that job right to? well, i think we've, we've touched on it a couple of times in different coming from different perspective. but it's ultimately the same concept that these are incredibly intelligent animals. their brains are highly developed, they have portions of their brains that are bigger than ours. these are parts of their brains that have to do with memory and emotion and language. and yet, um, you know, through all of the things that these animals around the world in different populations have had to do with, like being crowd multiple times, netted up and having, you know, watching their family members being stolen and from, from the family load it onto a, a, a, a, you know, a truck and driven away never to be seen again, in some cases with the southern resident, officiating killer wells that i study up here in washington state. these are
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animals that saw as many as 11 or more family member 1st killed in the process of being removed for the captive industry. these are animals that were killed, slid open and filled with with concrete and rocks to try and sink them. these are animals that again, are socially bonded for their entire lives. they stay with their mother, both males and females. and yet they've never turned on humans. they've never come after humans in a negative way. and so if any population of color wells was you know, going to attack humans, i would think that it would be the southern residents right here in washington state. i again, these be, if it has been upset already, lives that it, these wells are kind of capable of, of, you know, taking down several 1000 pounds stellar c lion, if they wanted to harm people they, they, they could. and you know, with these 2 cases in the strait of dirt brought her when the boat becomes stick incapacitated as i understand it, the wells lose interest. and so again,
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not lends to this whole idea the if the whales are, therefore they're getting something positive out and, or they're enjoying their experience. but, but not to the point where they're, they're trying to harm harm humans. i'm going to bring in another example of one of these to okay and county encounters. and this one comes from gentlemen's. i think this was just in early to mid june and july was taking part in a your teen rice. and then this is what happened. let's have a look, feel, david is straight, is that it started impressed if you see the address, 1st of all, beautiful animal, but also dangerous moment, 1st of the thing being reactivated only to down to sales and scary movies. who as the number of these instances go up, what does this mean for the older population and vast safety?
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i hope that we don't take revenge on them for doing this. we have to remember, you can insure a boat, but you can't replace an orca. and as their numbers are being diminished because of shortages of food because of pollution and because of many other factors, we have to keep in mind that we could lose these uh, these animals. we could lose them completely. we could always rebuild a boat, but we cannot replace them if they disappear. all to go ahead. what do you think is exactly i agreed to 100 percent with mr. paul and they are not tax and they don't want to damage that's much the boat. when they damage the boat, usually they stop. no, it's not a revenge. it's not an attack. maybe they are defending their hunting place because the track the, the place where the attacks and get to where we have lot of soon this year. and the lot us in this, so please join us it's,
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i think this can be the cause because they will not. if it's a play, they will not break the boat, they will bring you the rather back and will not break the rather from that, that's our, that's what i these, it's not the need the play. exactly. because if it was a play they will not break the 2nd rather in tomorrow. i think they are defending their hunting area, you know, and they don't want to damage. ringback the search the boat's gentle, they're rather it's very accessible. if you hold 0 there, they can buy. that's not up. in the my experience i had 33 interaction at the same day. i have to interactions for you. okay, well what are you doing that you got? lorraine? yes, yes, yes. i was delivering a boat. okay. so my 1st interaction was at 4 30 in the morning front of the scenes . uh huh. uh, 10 miles from scenes. and then i stopped the boats at the
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a certain minute to stop the boats in the start of serving the office. and then when they stop, after minute, 5 minutes later they stopped. and then i put the reverse heads into seeing the sports and they, they come right behind me and they hit me again. 30 minutes later when i was running away. and that's was what's damaged my rather the shot because it was run, you know, so a name is a north atlantic hello. well research. and she has been watching the growing number of confrontations, the growing interests from the public. and she has some concerns. she's still don't really know why these happened, but the involvement of juvenile suggest, playful behavior. we know that killer whales are very intelligent and social creatures. they can transfer your culture and their knowledge and mazda population . we seen that being done many, many times in the past. so as
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a research and my concern lies with how the public views these animals, we know that this population is endangered and they need our help. and the last thing they need is to be seen as feelings. jones, what is possible? i think, is the old cause. i have not become the villains in this story. they've become the rose people a meaning them. they've become so much because of what is actually happening. what do you make? cuz that, that way of actually understanding what is going on. and it seems to me that people are starting to become aware of just how detrimental our own actions are to the, to the natural world. but it's pretty much everything that's occurring that's uh, threatening to this population of color wells that we're talking about in, in europe. as well as the, the population of killer wells that occur here in wash state. all of the threats facing these animals that are, that are causing them to, to, uh, you know,
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lose their population decline, decline, and population. and really a tutor on the brink of extinction. all of the threats are essentially our fault. we've created these, these threats, whether it be best, so presence and associated noise. lack of prey removing prey from the marine realm . so limiting the amount of prey that these animals have access to and toxic into in the marine realm. so manmade chemicals that are making their way up to food chain and bio magnifying up the food chain and having impacts on these animals. so those are just 3 of the threats that were causing to them, re enroll him and, and i think that that's what people are starting to really get a sense of in different populations of animals around the world. and uh, it's a lot of ways we can't, i can't help that route for them. but i, i do have a deep concern that people will. um, you know, there is, there is an economic factor here. and for some folks that's more important than the
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natural world. and i, and i really hope that we're, we're, we start to have a conversation about what we can do to minimize these interactions to the point where, you know, maybe the fad will, will fade, the animals will lose interest in this area and, and in sail boats in rudders and uh, and kind of move on to something that's, that's um, you know, like i really, i really w waiting for the people. i think i really, i really think that's, that's because yeah, yes. let's take a look when we shouldn't, but we're sorry. we shouldn't forget that we have killed hundreds and hundreds of them in slaves and put them into captivity for amusement. i mean, it wasn't too long ago. the united states navy off of iceland was machine gunning organs because of the fishermen were complaining about them. and so we've come a long way in our understanding of what or because our but we should never lose a sight of the fact that if we lose the or cause we lose them forever. and uh,
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as i said before, you can always replace the rudder on a boat, but you, you can't replace your cuz pull out of may is watching right now. and she has, they suggested you can tell us if it's, if it's a realistic one, she says, could you put a so now control on the ok. so they don't go with the boats are, is, is that a reasonable thing to do? is that possible? i think it's possible that you could put a noise is uh, from the boat that might deter that's pretty hard to detour an orc or you could use or could sounds to deter another whale for perhaps, but uh, but uh the it might be, i think maybe played really bread, but punk rap music by do it. i don't know the but uh, you know, or heavy metal or something like that. something that i did that might did to them . alright. corinne sellout said simple, acoustic barrier deterrent that will stop them from attacking boats, but it needs to be normally. so. um and yes, nate to is flying back to thoughts that uh, normally for the tyrant charles,
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what would be a non leaf with a talent for the low cost so they stay away from but as well $1.00 of the things that is used in cases where for example, there might be an oil spill, and you're trying to deter marine mammals from an area that it has been used around the world to use something called an oil coming pipe, which is a, a 3 inch diameter steel pipe. 8 foot long hung from the side of a boat and banged on with uh, something like a hammer that those have been effective. uh, sadly, you know, those are actually what used in the type g, golf and drives. and those are noises that can push the animals away from areas or into areas in the case of the tide, golf and drive. um, so things like that. um, it's possible to, um, uh, you know, possibly ramp up slowly ramp up so that they can move out of the way and not be
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harm. possibly something like a sonar that in, in some cases has, has killed whales. uh, you know, caused them to the surface very quickly and, and get the bands in, in the case of b. 12, something like that might, might be good. i'm, you know, i, i think that those, yeah we, i did see one video of a boat where the people were clearly banging on the side of the boat. i do believe it was the, the academy around that was part of the, the race where they shut their motor down and they started, uh, you know, they stopped moving forward and started banging on the side of the boat. and i think that that ended up uh, possibly helping the situation. okay. just let me, let me just pull to atlanta just as hosts are not going to be lethal. all right, okay, so let me just pull from my cuz i want to bring a lot of man like to be um has experienced ok confrontations. i wasn't sure what wonderful, nice to follow all to have a listen to what he says and then you can bathing doesn't wrap us up with what you
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would do now. now that you've had 3 experiences of confrontations, he's letting me festival on the internet. very confusing to be honest, the even so much each organizations. um, even today we had the information from uh, one official saying, turn on the end and it will detract orcus and other said turned off of the engine. uh, not the thug, their attention. and then some official say, uh or not a few shows uh, stay closer to shipping plains where its be here and deeper and other say stay where its seller. so advice is very confusing and most helpful. i told auto just by a brief uh what, what, what exactly. uh, we go shallow legal, shallow and uh what he said about the chip lines is id is jibber outside apartment . 6 times i've just started to happen. okay. we sail boats with family on boards
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and got some runs. so i'm doing this job. i did this, this course, roads several times with safety and no i can do this job. it can cross the through the red zone, not through the red zone, but take those shadow. i heard the, the closed. i show that goes to the depot as they move it's beautiful. does it say any you want to go? and he wants to see the place is also, but the son same us, some boats on us, some boats on or sometimes they are not wants to go in the middle. no, come on the dry. we are having a problem with having a solution, a temporarily solution. all right, poll i the only say i've got 10 seconds left. what are you going to say? not 2 seconds. bring us on to the sorry, the best of turks is to stop over fishing. the ocean stop starving these or cuz they need a food supply. we're taking it away from them, and that's going to cause serious problems. we got to stop diminishing fish
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