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pollution, and most of my as far as the 7th assembly of the global environments facility on noticing of the hi, anthony ok. welcome to the stream. leaning to a screen because i want to show you some videos of lucas taking a chunk out of a category. the . how do i know i have several in the, the 3 of us both rogers we lost both brought us now that was an isolated incident in the last year. for instance, that being 200 no consultations between boats and old cars,

but nobody knows quite why. but we have a panel of experts who are going to shed that excellent theories with us today to talk about what were things ok from friday hall. but in the us state of washington, dublin y'all's science and research director for the organization while ok, also known as jobs from reykjavik compa per watson, marine wildlife conservation activist, and the founder of the captain per watson foundation. and in august political opportunity to pull out a professional skip. but i know you're going to have questions. audience watching on youtube comment section is all i have i teach looking forward to doing that festival dollars and pool an all tour. i am going to do a little cheat sheet about ok to add one more thoughts when i finish that you know about folk is that most people do not know. so let's start with a name the what that company known as killer whales. but the actually the largest

family of the dolphin, the of the dosing family, the largest member of the adults and family. they can miss a really long time up to 90 years old. i'm that brain. i'm intimidated now. 5 times larger than a human beings. brain cells, one more fat that will surprise our audience around the world about or because they're incredibly, socially bonded with their family members and pull somebody else. well, they're the, they're the most powerful predator on the, on the planet. and yet they've never ever attacked or injured a human being in the wild. so interesting in the well, that's really important back and all to so moving you've learned about oil cuz they are very intelligent, smart animals. they work in groups. they can hunt together isn't with another kind of fishes in some regions of the words. they have different behaviors in different

parts of the words. that's what i know about, sorry, because, and they're very friendly with humans. that's for sure. so as these number of confrontations between both and your at all cause have gone up up the general public or maybe even the same public a cold the attacks. but audio, we spoke to monica gonzalez and she explained why we shouldn't call them attacks. why we should call them something? yes, this is what you we have some population about 35 individuals. oh, see them, you know, across in this population a only 15 interact with both in the, in the 16 to others. and the rest do be nice. it seems 2020 these relation of the very in norcross, is not the to interact with folks. we always use the word interaction because i thought is just for a few months is when you are doing something trying to hurt or to damage somebody.

it is not the case if i was so population. so we always use the word interaction, autos, user experience and ok interaction. it was late at night. we have to video. the video is super disturbing. tough fast. what we're about to see. because it looks like the beginning of a horror movie just because it's so dark and you're not sure what's going on. what happened? exactly. it was scary. that's the 1st minutes. very, very scary. that's the 1st search. i thought it was a would then be some are ships pilots because was a bomb not so strong. ok. and that was a gets tired at the time because it's 4 o'clock in the morning was my turn to ghostly. and i felt that it's on the boat and they came out, i have my crew on the watch and i asked her, what's happened then? she said they'd do this search anything. and i was scared about to that's really,

really, really scared about that because i was realized, sony that's was in an arc and correction, you know, and the boat is not mine. i'm delivering to, oh, i get a possible. yeah. yeah, it's not y'all's i. we show the video, but i'm going to stop talking all to so that we cannot just see the sound because the sound is quite something that's kind of video again, with the sound or the jobs. what do you think was happening that because there was so many fairies as to why oak as being attracted to boats. i'm more more so um yeah, so i mean i, i can only imagine how terrifying that must be,

especially in the middle of the night when you don't have any visual on what's really happening. but um, from my experience with killer wells and um, from, from what i understand is happening uh in spain and portugal. uh it, it really, truly seems to me that these wells are just interested in the bottom part of the boat. things that protrude from the boat, the rudder or keel, which sticks out for us down into the water column. and the video that i saw that was taken of this sailing boat that was in a race really showed these wells, rubbing their head one well, rubbing his head against this protruding bed. and um, you know, these are incredibly intelligent tactile animals that interact regularly with things in their environment. and that's what it looks like to me who i was trying to find some videos here in the 19 seventy's going on a ride was an okay. it was kind of accidental,

but we don't have the video. can you explain what happened and describe life that experience for us, please? well, that was during the 1st green piece campaign to protect wales in the pacific. and uh, i found myself in the straits of beller bella with an oncoming part of the orders. and 3 of us for some strange recent, decided to go into the water in front of the bugs that are coming towards us. and uh, why don't you want me, your head is out of the water and you see a pot of work is coming from you, especially back then it was very intimidated, and then they all drove and disappeared. and that's even more intimidating. then suddenly they rose up alongside of us and i was able to grab the the door, so a lot of them and just went along with them for about a 100 meters until i was picked up and it's tail. but what struck me at the time was here is the most pop up plat, predator on the planet. you don't go up to a lie and petted in the, in the serengeti, but this, this predator allowed me to ride along with it. and that to me express is that they are, i think they understand what we are, they understand how intelligent we are and how dis dangerous. we are. and i think

they want to live in co existence with effect. that's what i believe. and that's why i don't think they've ever attacked people in the, in the world. it's so interesting i, i'm going to bring in this sentiment here. and there is a theory about why more because of confronting boats. and it's known as the white glove is very and that's because an ok called white gladys. i had a number of confrontations with boats and they were feeling that maybe she was upset. she was pregnant. she was maybe looking after a cough. that is one very, she is nice talking about the idea of lucas, maybe extracting as angel is this is having none of that at 7 look. these are cause of being around these watchers for many, many years. is an adrenalin rush to be on the goals. i certainly don't think it's revenge is a very, very powerful on the most. and if you want to do some serious damage,

they can. all right, a kick kill us if they wanted to, but they don't. so all to, uh, what are they doing around boats? were from my experience, i learned that they are not attacking. they don't want to damage the boats visa because the rather it's the most sensible parts, it's very weak parts of the boat. it's like a surf boards, some or others are very weak. it's fall in rags and they are not attacking the physically not it's uh they are defending their hunting area. they are playing with boats because our play with boats, it's normal. it's happened before. so i think it's something like this. mm pool. what, what is your theory as to why focus a now gathering around both and it's happening in spain and portugal and a number of different types of fake, not just $11.00,

plus i'm going to share the new ferry with poor because i, i feel because it's slightly different. there we go. apple. well, i would like to think that they're sending us a message. i would like to think that they're expressing their anger, but i really think it's coming down to a play, a learn that it's a learning thing. they've learned how to do this and they pass it on to other or cuz, and i don't think there's anything there. any animosity there, i mean pre meditated broadband is. that's a human characteristic. there's no evidence that that exists with the with with orc is so i think it's really a matter of play. so when you said pre meditated revenge dollars, you started to smile was they have focused brain as a way because an outrage would, would things not be a full that would go for that job. right. all right, well i think we've, we've touched on it a couple of times in different coming from different perspective, but it's ultimately the same concept that these are incredibly intelligent animals

. their brains are highly developed. they have portions of their brains that are bigger than ours. these are parts of their brains that have to do with memory and emotion and language. and yet, you know, through all of the things that these animals around the world in different populations have had to do with, like being crowd multiple times, netted up and housing. you know, watching their family members being stolen and from, from the family, load it onto a, a, a, a, you know, a truck and driven away never to be seen again, in some cases with the southern resident, officiating killer wells that i study up here in washington. state these are animals that saw as many as 11 or more family member 1st killed in the process of being removed for the captive industry. these are animals that were killed, slid open, so filled with with concrete and rocks to try and sink them. these are animals that again, are socially bonded for their entire lives. they stay with their mother,

both males and females. and yet they've never turned on humans. they've never come after humans in a negative way. and so if any population of color wells was you know, going to attack humans, i would think that it would be the southern residents right here in washington state. i again, these b, it has been upset already. lives that it, these wells are kind of capable of, of, you know, taking down several 1000 pounds stellar c lion, if they want it to harm people they, they, they could. and you know, with these kids cases in the strait of dirt brought her when the boat becomes stick incapacitated as i understand that the whales lose interest. and so again, not lends to this whole idea the if the whales are, therefore they're getting something positive out and, or they're enjoying their experience. but, but not to the point where they're, they're trying to harm harm humans. i'm going to bring in another example of one of these to okay and county encounters. and this one comes from gentlemen's. i think

this was just in early to mid june and july was taking part in a your teen rice. and then this is what happened. let's have a look. see oregon gave it a straight is that it started in 1st, if you see the order 1st of all, beautiful animal, but also dangerous moment. first of the thing, being reactivated only to down to sales and most of all scary movies who as the number of these instances go up, what does this mean for the overall population and vast safety? i hope that we don't take revenge on them for doing this. we have to remember, you can insure a boat, but you can't replace an orca. and as their numbers are being diminished because of the shortage is of food because of pollution. and because of a many other factors,

we have to keep in mind that we could lose the so these animals, we could lose them completely. we could always rebuild a boat, but we cannot replace them if they disappear all to go ahead. what do you think it exactly. i agree to 100 percent with mr. full. and they are not to tax and they don't want to damage that much. the boat when they damage the boat, usually they stop. no, it's not a revenge. it's not an attack. maybe the samsung deer hunting place because the track, the, the place where the attacks and gets where we have lots on us here and the load us and this. so please join us. it's i think it does, this can be the cause because they will not. you see, it's a play. they will not break the boat, they will bring you the rather back and will not break the rather from that, that's our, that's what i get these. it's not a need to play exactly because they seats, it was a play,

they will not break the 2nd run. ready somewhere else, i think they are defending their hunting area, you know, and they don't want to damage. ringback they go to the boat genteel. they rather, it's very assessable issue holds their, their data and bytes. that's my opinion. the, my experience, i had 3 it, 3 interaction at the same day. i have to interactions for you. okay, what were you doing that you got? lorraine? yes, yes, yes. i was delivering a votes. okay. so my 1st interaction was at 4 30 in the morning front of the scenes . uh huh. uh, 10 miles from seems and, and i stopped the boats at the a certain minute to stop the boats in the start of serving the office. and then when they stop after minute 5 minutes late. ready they stopped, and then i put the reverse heads into seeing the sports and they come behind me and they hit me again. 30 minutes later when i was running away. and that's was what's

damaged my rather the shot because it was run, you know? so a ne is a north atlantic kilo, well research, and she has been watching the growing number of confrontations, the growing interests from the public. and she has some concerns. she's still don't really know why these happened, but the involvement of juvenile suggest playful behavior. we know that killer whales are very intelligent and social creatures, they can transfer your culture and their knowledge and mazda population. we seen that being done many, many times in the past. so as of research and my concern lives with how the public views these animals, we know that this population is endangered and they need our help. and the last thing they need is to be seen as feelings. jealous. what, what is fascinating is the old cars have not become the villains in this story. they've become the u. s. people um, meaning them,

they've become so much because of what is actually happening. what do you make of that? that way of actually understanding what is going on it seems to me that people are starting to become aware of just how detrimental our own actions are to the, to the natural world. but it's pretty much everything that's occurring, that's a threatening to this population of color was that we're talking about in, in europe, as well as the population of killer wells that occur here in wash state. all of the threats facing these animals that are, that are causing them to, to, uh, you know, lose their population decline, decline, and population, and really a tutor on the brink of extinction. all of the threats are essentially our fault. we've created these, these threats, whether it be best, so presence and associated noise. lack of prey removing prey from the marine realm

. so limiting the amount of prey that these animals have access to and toxic into in the marine realm. so manmade chemicals that are making their way up to food chain and bio magnifying up the food chain and having impacts on these animals. so those are just 3 of the threats that were causing to the marine rome and, and i think that that's what people are starting to really get a sense of in different populations of animals around the world. and uh, it's a lot of ways we can't, i can't help that route for them. but i do have a deep concern that people will. um, you know, there is, there is an economic factor here. and for some folks that's more important than the natural world. and i, and i really hope that we're, we're, we start to have a conversation about what we can do to minimize these interactions to the point where, you know, maybe the fad will, will fade, the animals will lose interest in this area in, in,

in sail boats in writers and uh and kind of move on to something that's, that's um, you know, like i really, i really w waiting for the people. i think i really, i really started that's, that's the calls. so yeah, yes. let's take a look here. we shouldn't, but we're sorry we shouldn't forget that. we have killed hundreds and hundreds of them in slaves and put them into captivity for our amusement. i mean, it wasn't too long ago. the united states navy off of iceland was machine gunning organs because the fishermen were complaining about them. and so we've come a long way in our understanding of what or cuz our, but we should never lose a side of the fact that if we lose the or cause we lose them forever. and uh, as i said before, you can always replace the rudder on a boat, but you, you can't replace your cuz pull out of may is watching right now. and she has, they suggested you can tell us if it's, if it's a realistic one, she says, could you put a so now controller, the, on the focus. so they don't go with the boats. all is, is that

a reasonable thing to do? is that possible? i think it's possible that you could put a noise is uh, from the boat that might deter, that's pretty hard to detour that orc or you could use orchestral, just to deter another whale for perhaps, but uh, but uh, the it might be, i think maybe played really bread, but punk dropped music by do it. i don't know the, but uh, you know, or heavy metal or something like that. something that i did that might do to them. alright, corinne, sellout said simple, acoustic barrier deterrent. that will stop them from attacking boats. but it needs to be known me so and yes, nate to is fighting back to thoughts that uh no need for the tyrant. charles, what would be a no need for the talent for the orchestra they stay away from but as well. one of the things that is used in cases where, for example, there might be an oil spill, and you're trying to deter marine mammals from an area that it has been used around

the world to use something called an oil coming type, which is a, a 3 inch diameter, steel pipe, 8 foot long, hung from the side of a boat and banged on with a, something like a hammer that those have been effective. sadly, you know, those are actually what used in the type g, golf, and drives. and those are noises that can push the animals away from areas or into areas in the case of the tide, golf and drive. um, so things like that. um, it's possible to, um, uh, you know, possibly ramp up slowly ramp up so that it, they can move out of the way and not be harm. possibly something like a sonar that in, in some cases has, has killed whales, you know, caused them to the surface very quickly and, and get the bands in, in the case of b, 12, something like that might, might be good. i'm, you know, i, i think that those, yeah we,

i did see one video of the boat where the people were clearly banging on the side of the boat. i do believe it was the, the academy around that was a part of the, the race where they shut their motor down and they started, uh, you know, they stopped moving forward and started banging on the side of the boat. and i think that that ended up uh, possibly helping the situation. okay. just let me, let me just pull to the costs are not going to be lease oh, all right. okay. so let me just pulls from my cuz i wanna bring in lots of man, lots of it has experienced ok. confrontations. i wasn't sure what wonderful, nice to pull out all to have a listen to what he says and then you can bathing doesn't wrap us up with what you would do now. now that you've had 3 experiences of confrontations, he's got to be a festival on the internet. very confusing to be honest, the even so much each organizations. um, even today we had the information from uh,

one official saying, turned on the end and it will get dropped or close and other said turn off the engine uh, not plug there, then some. and then some official say, uh or not a few shows. uh, stay closer to shipping plains where it's busier and deeper and other se stay where its seller. so advise is very confusing and not helpful. i told auto just, wait, wait what, what, what exactly. uh we go shallow, legal, shallow and uh what he said about the chip. lions is i the jibber outside apartment? 6 times i've just started to happen. okay. we sail boats, we send to the on boards and got some runs. so i'm doing this job. i did this, this course, roads several times with safety and no, i can do this job. it can cross the through the red zone, not through the red zone, but take those shadow. i had to be closed. i show the cost to the people who say,

look, it's beautiful, does it say any, you want to go and you wants to see the place is also, but the son same us, some boats on us, some boats on us, sometimes they are not wants to go in the middle, no, come on a dry. we are having a problem with having a solution, a temporarily solution. all right, poll. i'm the one say i've got 10 seconds left. what are you going to say? not 10 seconds. bring us time to the sorry, the best of turks is to stop over fishing. the ocean stop starving these or cuz they need a food supply. we're taking it away from them. and that's going to cause serious problems. we've got to stop diminishing fish populations in the ocean bank by ocean . thank you auto. thank you, charles. i can view as but the contributions as well. i'll see you next time. take care of the,

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