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forget the website i'll just 0 dot com, straight jude. the stream is up next. as temperatures hit their highest on record, environmental leaders will gather in canada to discuss international action to come back to climate change on the world to meet the 2013 goals, etc. to ames pollution and most of biodiversity. the 7th assembly of the global environments facility. on noticing of the hi, i'm heidi joe castro. welcome to the stream for years, climate after this have centered their work around stopping some of the world's biggest polluters from fossil fuel companies to industrial farming. and while they remained some of the main contributors to the climate crisis, there is a lesser known climate conference that's often forgotten and it is a big one to the military. today we ask, our military is driving the climate crisis. but 1st, let's hear from david vine,

a professor at american university. if we're going to save ourselves from global warming, global heating climate change, we have to take on the left side of the room, the $800.00 pound gorilla. we have to take on us military emissions. the u. s. military is the single largest institutional emitter apartment on the planet. we have to take it on and we're not going to do it by building more solar panels or military bases and buying vehicles as a good things. but we have to do it by stopping current us or is preventing future us worse and dramatically cutting the size of the us military budget. to joining us to discuss from lancaster england, steward parkinson, executive director of scientist for global responsibility in north hampton, massachusetts lindsey kasha gary and program director with the national priorities project. and also with us from the lovely island of hawaii, marci winograd coordinator for code pink congress such

a pleasure to have the 3 of you join us here on the stream. now there is so much to unpack here, right? this is an under report report, a topic, military emissions, and we won't get to the lack of transparency and the increase still in military spending. but 1st, i just want to get our heads around the scope of this problem because we just heard david, call it an elephant in the room. and stewart, you know, just how big this elephant is, don't you? yeah, that size is global responsibility. last year we published the report and trying to estimate the size of the global calls and footprint as low as miller trees. and we estimated that it was about 5.5 percent of the world's carbon emissions. and if it were a country that was made of trees were a country, then they would be equivalent to the 4th largest country. well, that would be bigger than the whole of russia. wow. so it's

a really quite huge problem. and this is the emissions that we're talking about here. we'll get to, you know, the impact of active combat. but we're also talking about the daily activities of the military. lindsey, i know this is something that you've looked into closely. what is it that maybe we take granted for, for granted, that the military's around the world do on a day to day basis that in that a lot of carbon? yes. so of course david mentioned that nicholas or just a moment ago. but the impact of wars and of course, that probably the 1st thing we all think of. but there are daily military activities that are actually responsible for a huge amount of emissions. the us military is by far the biggest military in the world of the us outstanding select 10 countries combined. our military and the largest source of our emissions is jet fuel, the burning of jungle. and that's not just in combinations. it's in training

emissions where i live in north hampton, massachusetts. we have training flights that go over my house. and probably a lot of listeners due to this is something that happens all over the world. the us to has, according to findings from professor right, has over 750 military installations in the world. those all come with some carbon emissions to varying degrees and it's everything from, you know, smaller installations. maybe just the radar installation to bases in germany in south korea and japan to have tens of thousands of us soldiers and come with really significant carbon impacts. so it's all of those activities that add up to the us military, in particular, having a carbon emissions footprint that is larger than many developed countries. wow. and of course, there's all these tons of calls, right? you know, there's these bases that have all the support infrastructure,

the constant trucks that bring in supplies. and then there's also also the contractors, stewart. i know you wanted to jump in. yes, i was gonna say the whole supply chain of the military's that the sort of things that you're talking about the supply chain is huge as well. and that often gets forgotten in estimations that the electric company emissions side of the direct direct effects, right? bad supply chain, very bad, and then the impacts of war itself. so my estimate didn't include the impacts of war itself. so when terms of bones and i said if i went a few times in the bottom twin forest of them, they would like to come and emissions as well. and, and that's exactly what i wanted to ask mars say about our so you know, with code. thank you, are with an anti war group, and you guys have reduced a video about ukraine and though we don't have numbers on what the emission may be from the military activities, there it is obvious to the plane i the destruction of the environment. so i wanted

to 1st watched this video together and the more save, you'll jump in and tell us more about it. sure. motion attacks and ukraine's chemical and oil storage facilities have released wounds of smoke with toxic particulate matter gases and heavy metals to damage the logs worse and air quality and make it difficult to breathe. and the industrialized east of ukraine, explosions, phone, and trenches and tunnels dead for battle, increased the release of particular weapons of war from rockets to tanks and tons of carbon and particulate matter that pollute the air and increase greenhouse gases . yes, heidi, so i made that still with my colleagues at co tanks. i'm sorry, that was the way show elder. yes. and so we, we felt it was very important to look at the environmental impacts of the war and

ukraine as we pushed for a ceasefire. and also the co chair of dc crane coalition, which represents over a 100 organizations saying that, you know, it's time for diplomacy to end this war. not only because of the hundreds of thousands potentially adapts that have resulted or will people being wounded and the destruction of infrastructure, but also the environmental impacts. as you saw on that bill, and very few people realized that 52800000 dolphins have washed up dead in the black sea as a result of war. with all sides being responsible, you know, because of the destinations, the noise and so forth. so i, i just want to say that as an anti war organization, we have a campaign, moore is not green, and i've thank you. uh, heidi, i think i'll just hear english for highlighting this because as david said, this is the open in the room, the pentagon, and you know, we're talking about you frame now. and unfortunately,

i think the data on how much destruction it is reeking on the country on its people and the environment that will be coming in for years. but we have a little idea, don't we mercy about you know, how, what, what have a, any rock the u as in the aging rage with its burned head. so it's desert, beautification. can you tell us a little bit more about that? sure. i mean, globally, the u. s. military has hundreds of superfund sites and an internal study by the department of defense in 2022 indicated that there are, that people are being contaminated all over the world. from our p a phase. these are toxic chemicals, carson, the genet, chemicals that are used in foam to, to put out buyers on aircraft. and these are leaking into the ground water. i'm in hawaii right now, heidi it's, i, you know, my heart goes out to the people of hawaii because in many ways this is occupied territory and just take for does it, for example, a law who honolulu and the red fuel

a leakage into the opera fire has contaminated the neighbors for a 100000 people in honolulu and so i think that today is to be addressed. and i thank you for addressing this. right. let me see you wanted to jump in, right? yeah, yeah. so the red hill facility been a u. s. navy facility in red hill, hawaii has leaked fuel into drinking water and then that is just one of remember more than 750 military installations from the u. s. alone in the world. so if you think about that and multiply and impacts and know other chemicals that mercy talked about and other pollutants, the impact worldwide of the us military alone is enormous. and then stewart also talk about, you know, the private side. and we have a u. s. military, where half of the military biologist budget. so we have goes to contractors and they have a carbon impact as well through the manufacturing of what weapons through transport

of materials, through all of it. there's so many impacts and it's not just an answering machine that has all of these other pollutants as well. yeah, i just want to go in and we just want to say that we feel the answer is to reverse course, because we are in a trajectory to multiply these carbon emissions as we increase us bases. we are opening a new base in guam for 5000 marines. we have, we are dredging the ocean, the beautiful ocean in okinawa, for a new military base. so as we prepare your 1st there's ukraine that's, that's terrible. you know what's happening there. we have to put an end to this, and now we are preparing for a war with china. you know, i, our surroundings, i bring this battery, the chase as well. yes. and start. i want to bring this question to you actually because hitting on what all of you just mentioned. right. it's in a sense, it's like these militaries are expanding, the bases are expanding, but in

a sense we have our heads buried in the sand because we don't even know how big truly the problem is. is a store, you've done great work and uncovering some of this data, but that took a lot of effort didn't because there's a lack of trans your parents. i mean the, the, the dietary is, is very cool. and the uncertainties on, on my estimates. i freely admit a white and then that is because the, the dates are, isn't that the, the un into governmental panel on climate change, which is the humans needing climate science buddy on this issue. it publishes 9 figures on mileage accommodation. why is that? um, why doesn't it publish those and visions? because middle trees publish very few figures themselves, a small number is some more stunting, but often the dietary is hidden and they're not required to to publish it. are they or no way to the fact that there's a lot of like sections and then there, and then yes, it's hidden amongst categories. so for example,

military base is the day to reset and on the public buildings, imagery, a vision is hidden on the totally and radiation as industry is under industry, international emission. so emissions from playing ships and fashion awards is as or as space they, they've all counted with a national in inventories to. so this is a huge problem and i'm showing the rest like these because it becomes very difficult. so you have to take data from all over the place and then make some assumptions extrapolations. and yeah, we need fall, but it's, we need miller trees being required to publish the data. and then we need clear um to need to have them pro with a target so that their emissions reductions are required and then not exact. yeah, it's reporting and what was the, what, what is clear is the lack of transparency. ironically,

what is also clear is that the united states has pushed for exemptions from military reporting and these claimant protocols and at these climate conferences that have been held ever since the kyoto protocol and they receive, i have that, i don't have to report it, which i have to was don't report this now. it is you don't have to all the way up to the why the glasgow conference. right. marcy, and that i actually wanted to show you and our viewers and everyone else eclipse from cop 26 because military emissions completely left off of the agenda of it. but we had a journalist named abbey martin who confronted the former us. how speaker nancy pelosi, this is their exchange. how can we seriously talk about net 0? is there is this bipartisan consensus to constantly expand this large contributor to climate change which is exempt from these conferences? military is exempt from climate talks to national security. advisors all tell us

that the climate crisis is a national security matter. it is, of course, a health matter for our children, the water, they drink that where they breathes, etc, is a jobs issue between clean, clean technologies, being the future of the workforce and the training for all of that. it is a national security issue because of the all of the conditions that climate crisis produces. i won't go into all of them, but they do our costs for migration conflicts over heavy charts and resources. and again, a security challenge globally, a lindsey, i know you were hearing that too, issues the she said a lot, but she never actually answer the question, did she? i mean what i was hearing, i think from below see, it's almost a justification. and this is going to be official department of defense, the response from the us that almost being a bigger military is required to confront the climate price isn't of course it's

a feedback loop, isn't it? when is the, what do you mean? yes, absolutely. yeah, yeah, it's the military and our military leaders in the us are very quick to admit that the claimant crisis is a national security crisis. and of course, it's a global security crisis and a planetary security crisis. so it's even more than then there acknowledging. but when they say that the national security crisis, they mean something different than how we might think about it. what they mean is that it's a crisis for their military, they mean, but there are no military base as naval bases. that may be victim to the rise levels and that they need to accommodate for that. they mean that they need to prepare militarily for migration crises. that will arise because of climate change or that they need to prepare for a military response to claimant prices that might come about from things like water scarcity or, or other climate crises that displace people things. so that's what they're talking about. all of these things and we need to be really careful when we talk about

military emissions. there is a segment of the military that is all too happy to take more public dollars and use it to do things like put solar panels on bases and find alternative fuels that may be lower emission, but they don't do anything to address the underlying problems of militarism, and we really need to watch out for that green washing because that is exactly what the pentagon is trying to do. right now. they are pursuing alternative fuel. they are pursuing solar panels. i'm basis, but he was there, force is pursuing and that 0 ultimate policy. but we need to guard against all of that because what they're looking to do with maintain the same level of militarism while cutting back somewhat on their claim. it that on there are quite a bit of emissions, but they'll still be addressing the claimant crisis itself by sending troops or military writing borders where there are climate crises and things like that. so we need to really be on the look out for that. and then this is way where we come with the weather situation that we currently find ourselves in regularly with military spending has reached $2.00 trillion dollars a year,

which is the highest level since the cold war. and possibly many times during the cold war. and, and again, it's etc, right? we are in arms. rice's and, and was tend to throw in their arms or a 6 and the situation. ukraine i think is a good example of this. yeah, we need. yeah, i think i think it's complex. we need to tackle the rates, the climate prices. go ahead and you mentioned yes. yeah, i think in terms that i'm across. yeah, i'm putting into that development the poor countries and also reducing the emissions. oh, great. by french of countries and the wealthy in this country. absolutely. and what is the thing about so you, you can go ahead mercy. oh yeah, i was just so you can see that this war and ukraine there is no a plan to end it. and there is a climate thread that is even more urgent than the climate crisis. and that is the threat of nuclear war. and even president biden admitted that it any walk down this

path could lead to arm again with the, you know, we're looking at the, an isolation of 5000000000 a, be a 1000000000 people on earth. and as we conduct a proxy war between to us to a nuclear power's united states and russia, which i possess 90 percent of the world's nuclear weapons. and marcia, we have got hanley, we must dedicate ours to that very topic. but right now i want to bring us back to emissions and, you know, there, there is some recognition. there's some evidence, at least here in the united states that there is a need for the military to be more transparent. and i wanted to bring up a letter that was written by 28 members of congress. all democrats sent to president biden. this was the january of 2022 in which they said put simply we will never achieve the reductions necessary to avoid the most catastrophic effects of climate change, nor meet our economy wide obligations under the paris climate agreement,

while ignoring the climate impact of the us military, but mercy. we never got a response from the biden administration. did this happen? no. instead they asked congress for a $150000000000.00 of new military spending in 2024. are you troubled by this? very trouble and not only my trouble by the, by the ministrations push for expanded military by just i'm travel by the congressional flush. we have a bi partisan push for an ever expanding military. you know, it was increasing under trump, it's increased under biden. i was listening that house armed services committee hearing the other day, and i hear on both sides of the aisle saying, well, we need more troops in europe in the baltic states, we have 82000 troops in europe. so now they're gonna apply more troops over there and, and more greenhouse gas emissions. this is not the trajectory that we need to be on

and that one of the issues heidi is that the military is taking its cue from the think tanks that are funded by military contractors. you know, and as all this might follow the money. right? oh, absolutely. absolutely, another issue is, you know, issue us, we're serious about taking the claim, a craigslist, of the national security crisis. we would be investing differently that $858000000000.00 that the vitamin ministration requested for the pentagon. is way more than 10 times the only $37000000000.00 a year under the inflation reduction, acted as by the signature legislative treatment on the climate crisis. so we're not taking the funding requirements of the claimant crisis seriously. and there's nothing that makes that clear, or then the $858000000000.00 a dividing administration requested for the pentagon when they been happy with their signature achievement on the inflation reduction reduction act. that there's

less than 10 percent of that for the client. i was a ring and that's only for the us. i wanted to bring in some more of our comments from our community. this is a video comment that was sent to us earlier by nick buxton, a researcher at trans national institute saying that the, the u. s. has its priorities in terms of military emissions, all wrong. let's take a listen. we need to be clear us how many climate strategy he's not about fighting climate change. which is, as i say, my conclusion about deploying fighting and winning the nations was. the total is there's no such thing as agree more on the green empire. sure. the us, um, you can put solar panels on as many military bases. but not the same time. it is investing millions more on building 5 to jazz naval ships. and sort of assume it's more than $800.00 military base is around the world. the truth is that to dekalb and nice, we need to the minute tries,

the us needs to turn to international cooperation across the military might to resolve into was complex. it's story. my next question is to you because rather than the militarize, the u. s. army this past year released its 1st climate strategy, which does i propose to cut emissions in half by 2030 and the net 0 by 2050. is us enough and isn't even usable? well, i think you're going to look at whether it's targets really mean that the other thing about causing talent and emissions. that's a relatively straightforward today when things like side of the panels on, on military bases, energy efficiency and energy basis. but when it comes to actually reducing emissions of the equipment, the equipment that they've deployed, then all of those are either the exemption from the target or the predicate on technologies which are either in a very early stage of development or,

or on the drawing boards never be used for military purposes or they, they propose using upsets common upsets which are offered with problems and then very illusionary. so i don't really trust these these comments audits unless we get, well yes, right. hard times, a little late, almost coming to a close, but i want it to come back to a very important point. you all brought up what you mentioned, the cold war this there's sort of a comparison here, right? i mean, it's almost like there's a need for carbon disarmament treaty. but even the idea seems you know, so far just in the future, i don't know if there's any appetite for it. so in our last remaining minute or 2, i just want each of you to answer and maybe just 10 to 20 seconds. what is the likelihood that the world's militaries could come together and kind of in this competition of growth one bigger than the other, making the, this climate crisis worse? is that ever going to happen?

a stewart police go 1st. it's fairly difficult, but it's, it's something like that we have to try. we have to find common ground between countries that it's not just development. latrice is about finding collins gram between nations and looking at what we do have a hold on, which is a climate crisis that threatens the world civilization and we come back and coming to work to help protect them from them. absolutely. thank you start lindsey. yeah, so this really comes down to what the us and china decided to do. they're the world to biggest emitters the world to biggest military and to huge economy. so it's between the us and china to work this out and by the administration can really take leadership by thank you so much. lucky and marci please. i'll give you the final word. thank you. yes, uh, being with code paint, you know, my response would be we need to build an amplifier, this anti war movement and we need to stay in solidarity with people all over the

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