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a backdrop of one of the wells highest inflation rates and frequent outages. signing p. s was ruled since independence in 1980. but can the opposition exploit growing discontent over the soaring cost of living? symbolic way to say, well comes to generation, change a global series that, that sense understand and challenge the ideas that are mobilizing use around the world. i'm going to stuff one, an independent journalist faced 11 on where jen z, campaigners are fighting for radical change. the challenges they face couldn't be more daunting. it's an almost combat politic, insane mates social unrest and the devastation caused by august 2020 exclusion here. and they episode,
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we need 2 young people using their skills to combat decades of corruption and fix theory and they to use the tools on reset. the only way for right the settings. can you tell me a little bit about your childhood and they were there any specific moments or events that saves your political activism? the early part of my childhood was not to be influenced by politics, but as i get older gradually i get interested in these my number. however,
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also in or the most of the ideas and concepts that were created by the user name plus, in terms of the secondary and one of the agents and the crisis. so at the end of the days were all as far as the products of the societies and the dentist i usually use and soon by the reason. but then i go to expose the various other ideas, move into groups that to try to deliver an alternative vision for what the country may be, as opposed to what i learned that to be as a child. why do you think that dyslexia club is important and willis have some kind of effect outside the scope of the news universities? it's like a club to sort of as a associate function space for students to know more about politics and the various developments happening. as soon as the social groups and this will have to have even only interest which has to be protected, whether it's a needing on condition,
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that's what is the, i guess the administration to protect students, feed them, or needing long switching strikes, which protect the students rights and so is a 19, it was basically the youth student component of the uprising, but it's also transformed into a force which is able to impose a certain discourse under that many sounds good. are you optimistic that the network will emerge as it relates to kind of movement and 11 on so the way i see the measurements rings or the ability to move and then that's where it tells me expensive social base. and then it has to take him to the restroom. step instruction, it does take him to the idea that it should be creating a culture 100 on each other's most like they're in for these munitions based on the various other forces which are for up to the spaces. and that's always forward and
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i think special thanks is the most of the most as that you were part of the generation that was born and peace side. but in 2006, this changed for you. yeah. can you send me a little bit about dots, o, as in love, a non during the 2006 for a during the summer. i was impressed to physically, but also i took it in and i understood. even when i was told that narrative impacts public opinion, but it was really during the 2014 does when i was internet. so major news organization understood the weight and the importance of accountability journalism, an independent journalism. so that towards their own decides look, and my career 7
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on witness series of protests and the past 2 years from 2011, 2015 and then the big 2019 process. what was the role of the media 11 on the media are owned by partisan groups and political parties, which are the political casts, adults, people. and the protest movement throws up against the hearts of corruption or any of that, or is which are the main thing means? yeah, this information is the illustration of corruption in narrative, an ideas. so it's really important for me to focus on the media narrative and also counselor to investigate support. so was the independence with the organization i worked for and i took on the daily news reports and covering the violations. i think for testers, the process were happening all over the country that were me to black out. so we were the ones who said lights on what was going on. and the way that's most means
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it means to me, to do this has been any thoughts on journalist and i'll need tell okay, is freedom of speech and danger, and 11 on and your opinion. i think freedom of speech right now is going through a specific kind of challenge because of social media and the government's use of social media to intimate dates, a people interest and censorship. we need to speak against that. whether or not the intimidation is there. and i think a lot of independence means at work cuz i understand the stress and they understand that now is the time to continue with the accountability. journalism continues. we have open source investigations in order to uncover the start to scroll into the sensitive some tickets. as the thank you so much for being with us here today. your generation did not
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really witness the civil war and 11 on however, everyone husband's card in the country maybe to our parents or through stories that were here. now i want to start with you. okay. and how did this change your connecticut activism in the country? now, although we that experienced the civil war we were taught or inherited the narrative about knows that their inclinations, even forms of heroism. you know, the people that we were supposed to think of very highly. and at the end of the day, we also formulated the accountant narrative, the idea that if you're trying something this move or the entrance something the secondary in conversations which exist alongside of it. and this is something we're currently working on. and what about to us? so i also have a kind of unique upbringing as my parents are both from sexier background. so i had this and go, that's i, uh, got from my parents why understanding the trauma that they lived through during the
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civil war since it's an inheritance, intergenerational trauma. and the one thing never has this happen again. so this was basically my view point going into politics going into actors and going into journalism as well. so, is your generation, more radicals getting more uncompromising in a way? we were thoughts for a long way than living on that business, the country? these are the relationships that exist between the readings to us and the people between the people themselves, between the various political factions which exist in the country. and we're suggesting that there's nothing static about 7 or 7 on there's always in the dynamics transformation. and we're here, you know, experiencing another dynamics estimation which got about after october 17, which came about after the oldest for exclusion. we new thing that we have the agency to create the volume and alternative as a what are the ways in which you can implement such change in your opinion? i think the trainer and the lots from what's happening around us since the so
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called error spring in which people are age as when we're able to achieve not only in 2011, but also in 2019 with us across a rack. a g o 2 done and as swear, and we learned from each other about tactics and futures and who cities the to want to work together towards getting your, the chair of the political and working group of the met done network which connect secondary clubs across universities. and 11 on can by the transform the student activism into a nationwide political movements and your opinion, when i think was ordered or under the case in the sense that uh the network is established. and within $12.00 to $13.00 universities, this suggests that there is potential for genuine competition between secondary progressive components and the many societies against more secondary and reactionary components which have existed historically. the 2nd,
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their thumbs are in the network, but not only calling for secretaries, and they're also calling for a live there from this package. it also deals with social justice, more democratic conclusions, ideas pertaining to an incomplete memory than from nora's which of this story their society. and so we're not an distant ideological group. we are part of the society or a speaking to them with their basic needs. how can you actually convince people who might be even older than this generation to vote outside the school of their sex? when you have 18 sex and 11 on when you have political parties that are based on their sex and that's are not based on marriage or even the politics. the problem with start getting such a question is that we need to talk a switch which is client and isn't from someone votes for political sex. they're also voting for the ability to get them. 4 to be able to get to get in a school to be able to get social welfare and all of these things that are tied to 6 there and political parties. so really thinking about getting people to
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vote outside of their success in gloria to we need to also be cognizant that we are telling them to make themselves vulnerable to a reality without the social protections. and the british protections of mainstream printed to can part to with us with them. so this opposition was meant should have a certain i turn, it says and realistic solutions to the 6 there in times in a sick system that's has been in greens of the institution and as the parts and parts some of our life. so what you're saying basically, is that non sectarian opposition groups need to compete with these long last thing . political parties, by proving that, this is not the way. so actually, i mean, this is a very interesting phenomenon. this happens after august for a baby with blast. people came together from across 7 non and forms of networks of
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solidarity and finance and a collaborative. a started there and networks been don't mimic the same story. terry and trying to mystic structure is the 1st or used to getting the government would say that they are attempting to attack and corruption 11 on was establishing an onto corruption committee and, and you law tackling corruption in the country. what's your opinion on that in the middle, and particularly the term corruption is basically potentially, i mean, particularly when it's empty corruption. because the issue and limit on the was not just corruption in the sense that you know, we have some interest being distributed within states, texas. it's a very structure and a stomach issue. we have and it's been amplified since the ninety's. we have a run based economy that's completely based on monopolies, the banking sector, plus the real estate sector. we have a sectarian system which compete and distribute on ministry is all of us boilers
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that have come across after the war. we have enlarged that we have a lot of the social and economic inequality. no productive sexes, which produce anything. and they were simply living the remnants of an extremely me with the blue, with an unfair economy. so people that are saying we want to fix corruption, but don't even want to find that at the interest of the only guarantee and the banks, then we can really trust whether they're actually finding corruption. so as long as this is at stake, there is no such thing as anti corruption. as the on august 4th, 2020 tons of ammonium nitrate exploded and bailed causing damage to the whole city . can you tell me what happened on that days? so i was in the office, i had to work call in the middle of it and then 6, so 8 happens. and then i felt a tremor that took me back and forth and i hadn't realized what had happened. but i heard the noise of a huge explosion, and i saw that everything was destroyed around us. our call names were
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a really close to the windows, and we were trying to figure out if anyone was injured. and because my parts of my office were right beside each other, and i could see complete destruction of my apartments, because this was an office for an independence needed organization. some of our videographers. so the 3rd year and they went down to some of the carnage. it was a complete massacre. it was something that's i think no one wants to know if to again, forever. what about to cutting ones? i heard the explosion and i felt that everything was shaking the 1st thoughts. the names on mine is a, this is it's, i also specified the position i was in because i felt maybe the building could collapse at any moment. so it was extreme on certainty. about the next 30 minutes after i was out and took my car. i noticed that people are injured everywhere,
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so it was a huge catastrophic moment in which every thing norman, in our lives was host. how's that you mentioned that you were in an office working with an independent media organization. did you manage after that to resume your work directly? i think what fueled us to continue and to actually double down on our reporting and on our coverage was our anger towards whatever happened and whoever were responsible. so this could be seen with our investigations, with our daily news coverage and trying to piece together what's happened. why was there a fire? what's blue before that? i'm on united states. where was it exactly and which warehouse was able to look at? ok. this video was taken on the roof of this building, and this time,
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this enables me to actually piece together something so that i can know what's happened because the anxiety of not knowing was worse than the inside. see us. what happens ashtosh. $16000000000.00 is a number estimated when we talk about the damages, that's what caused by this explosion. there are so many legs. i accusations that corruption reached aids where this corruption ends cutting the 8 is that's the name of the answer to corruption. because feeding this regime with more funds, particularly by the international community, we're the only need to it's for production and then safeguarding its own bases. distribution isn't us, is in the hundreds of thousands of people from various social groups and 9 rows and 6. so many of those they mobilize and it creates the defense systems also the diversity. this goods potentially creates an advocate the resistance of the
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origin. but there is no certainty insights, but there is always hol, can i just jump in here? when i look up for i understand corruption, it doesn't just american institution and governments of perspective, but if there's corruption, one place that's probably tied to corruption elsewhere. when a megaphone use the, an investigation about the origins of the ship that brought the ammonium nitrate to the basement supports, they were tied to syrian russian firms with addresses in london. so corruption is the bill. been nice things when we want to understand and to fights, corruption, we need to think about it as a system of solidarity that is bored during this, at the same time, and collaborates with independence needs organizations just like the panama papers have done to uncover money laundering scandals across the world. i think there's
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only really important what she said, but there's also something at the emphasize on based on this, that ebony is regime is tied to international and will be of interest which sustain it. now that is something to critique, but it's also something to look at and slightly so be inspired from that. if we do break these things or if we do create alternative things across the borders, that goods multiply the strength of our movements. and potentially we could benefit from an alternative, international and network of people who are thinking this way. and that's how we can create alternative power in the country and ultimately replace the car and the receiving side. i mean, could you just looking at the process, started tactics from the 20 october 2019 protest movements. we learned from hong kong we learned from turkey. we learned from some done. and then again in may 2021
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. the george floyd process started uber, news activist helped or creative guides for the black lives matter. actors in minnesota in order to uh out some in terms of just to secure proceed help with tear gas. so this sunny day doesn't just transcend our fight against corruption, but also our sites are gains up to a oh sorry terry and regina and oppressors. one of the so many challenges of this country is facing is integration or brain drain. many of the young generation are leaving for good, and even you mentioned that you are part of the met the network, which is connecting different secular clouds. but the protests are kind of on hold right now. how do you motivate people and how to revise these events industries? not many people have the luxury to go out. a lot of people are stuck here in the sense and they have no choice but decide back for these after the august 4 explosion when the people they seem to be occupied warranties where they weren't
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saying, you know, this makes some calculations and see if we can afford this or then they just went sometimes we assume that the people, i mean rates, then they don't have their own. but this is a huge side of the funds, but living is receiving benefits from the but as far as the benefits from the side that we're gonna export everyone and then they'll give us the money so we can sustain ourselves. the opposition has a reality. the reality is that people are outside. how can they benefit us? well, most of organizations and i can, i can this mechanisms are becoming online as dressers movements. so people can think parts in meetings and sharing ideas and talking to people and getting heaps of people to vote. so that's all about raising alternative networks by using the highest score that was exported by the regime itself. but also came, i think, as opposition groups or as students or union organizers, we need to learn to the concise, our hope for the future,
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which we saw on the streets in the beginning of the 17, october's 2019 protest movements. people were coming together and dancing cooking together, singing together, trading, sings with each other. these are in form of systems, of relationships and trains that's had never been seen in at least downtown battled on certain before and stuff. the civil war as that we do know how media is one of the allies and 11 on how it's tied to private businesses to politicians. how can you change that? so 1st i think we need to recognize that 12 point to confirming you own, at least half us, the mainstream media and 11 on the other half is either owned by businessman, by individuals, politically affinity is owned by specific political parties. so the controlling over one, the media, but 2 and most important to this course and the sources of information is square
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and in the hands of those and powers. but independence means it organizations have found ways, mobilizing the just florida and becoming important sources of information from the ground since they are the only ones that from from the ground. from the point of view of the protesters from the point of view of the oppressed. but again, the independence media needs to work together with uh, grass switching movements, width of, of sites, organizations to bring together all these things in order to have a sustainable future. when you talk about all of these hopes and dreams, there's a certain component that's we need to talk about and that is challenging. a secular states has been the as a dominant political chaise for 1011 on. now some argue that they are safe with an estate. how do you bill the secular government with the presence of such devices? but i don't think it's even possible to look for genuine. the radical reform in the
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country with the state of the state life has of all of which is not just a party. so that distribution, it's an infrastructure of the state of the selves that box the base and other conflicts in the region. and it also tokenize is on there is because now the question remains, how do we resist this? and i knew also have an issue with those who proclaimed to fight against his bow when in fact they only talked to him sensible of, from their own success area. in point of view, but was never april aggressive starting point. and that's something that's extremely necessary. they want to go a step forward, but isn't that challenging? because hezbollah says that they are presence to defend been, have been used for. there is the only way to attack is such a permit and mistake, as well as to recreate a new nurse. it does not mean we have to concede has well, at all. in fact, that's
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a big mistake. many opposition parties are doing. we need to continue creating this account that 100 monique, from a starting point, which is secular, progressive and insularity with all of those oppressed by as well. and by not as well. yeah. so is there a space for optimism in a country so complex like 11 on that's the weights for the 2022 elections for some kind of change. there is never pessimism or optimism. there is a complex reality as you said. and this complexity in of itself gives us hope, because what's happening this year may not happen 3 years later. but the 2022 elections cannot be seen as a break, so it can only be seen as of 2 or however many other breakthroughs a wait. because at the end of the day, so i'm just heading it in october 29. 2019 was not taken out and the action was
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taken out by the streets and the streets could to reinvent themselves as does that mean these really? so i agree completely with cream and saying that elections has a 2. no, it's not a means to an end. i think organizing. so send the kids to clubs to students, unions and across identities. unsecured in loyalties is really important. so are you going to be the generation that's find a solution for this ongoing crisis and level? i'd also so to the ultimate responsibility for a generation, because i think our parents don't, they wouldn't be that generation i fingerprints, but that would be the generation. so maybe, well, listen, i actually think there is no such thing as this. you know, one time change in the country 11 on 200 years ago was different than 11 on today.
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and socially move is always existed and pressure and uh, in a certain direction. so i think interesting the ration made this contribution, and we're here to make our modest contribution and to see what comes ahead of us. that's it's for this episode of generation change comes up in on teddy mazda. thank you so much for taking part. it's been a very enlightening conversation. thank you. thank. sooner as temperatures hit, the highest on record, environmental leaders will gather in canada to discuss international action to combat climate change on the world to meet the 2013 goals set out to end pollution and most of buyers as far as the 7th assembly of the global environments facility on august the
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