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pollution and most of biodiversity. the 7th assembly of the global environments facility. on noticing of the hi, i'm familiar. okay, welcome to the stream. do you have a like a pdf hides from scratch relations if you do it, it really is a big deal. is one of the top 10 websites in the entire weld. earlier we talked to us physiologists with jenny route about what it felt like to be on the community. this is what she told us. and when i 1st found out that i had a wikipedia page about me, august frankly flat. it chopped, tickled pink because you see a big pdf is michael to start for quick references on sign to face please, discoveries and people. and so the idea that people could come to pick

a pedia and find out about my research was really quite nice. and this was not a soft piece. it turns out that this article about nice, really well researched, is quite accurate. i'm pretty insightful summary of the work done by my research could. so that really please me let's take a little deeper into like a pdf at its impact in the 1st that it was made in january 2001 the o 6600000 articles, 1100000000 edits in over 300 languages. so who all the edits who are doing or if this work, just taking these fats festival and then let's take it out. 80 percent of the editors on wikipedia on mail. and that is why we're doing the show

that is agenda gap. they send in equity, which is used in editing, who is being featured. i'd say we're going to look at some of the what the spring done to close that gap. so with us to talk about this in london, jessica wade. she is a physicist and research fellow at imperial college london, highlighted jazz and baltimore in the west care with an s k executive director of the group out at munition. i you that kierra names thing up for rosie stevenson. good night for trustee of the wicked media foundation, co founder of which of project women in read. so good to have you o. c. all right, so this is a major issue. it's really quite stock. guess what happened? why is it so many guy is who does that with a pdf making decisions. booking out who is important and then writing about them have a weekend i think there's kind of 2 reasons. i mean, it's

a fantastic issue and i'm see if a grateful that you've taken on, but i guess one not the issue is that society doesn't do enough to recognize and celebrate women. and wikipedia is the general interest encyclopedia and content on wikipedia reflects the sites. so general interest is, society isn't doing enough to say there are amazing women, artists, or amazing women scientists or amazing women musicians that in the notes have been se criteria on wikipedia. i'm going to reflect that, that jen during that could be so one is society is, is on a quote. and the other reason which you alluded to in your demographics, if the audit is, is we just starting to have enough diversity of people contributing to wikipedia based around the time that we could p d, a started the types of people who were online most, you know, 20 plus years ago, we've got this huge demographic in balance, which means that we don't have enough diversity and not enough those editors who all the then not writing enough pages about extraordinary women,

searched by society spell and what could be the editor's fault? yeah. oh, could s q a, you know this and you doing something about it. i'm just going to show one more step for our audience about how many biographies that are in terms of biographies of men and biographies of women. and again, this, this, this is improved, this isn't a present from um, several years ago. it's go not from 15 percent to 90 percent, but so slow cara. how do you speed this up? well, we're working with the global community of information activists and just really kind of elaborating a little bit more. i see you back in on what dr. dr. just had to say, is it any reading it? and it was a pdf which is very exciting, but also that is, it goes to another question in the questions of who has the resources to volunteer . we know that there is like a precarious labor asking people to volunteer places like the us for

a bond hearing is prevalent, might be one thing, but we also know that because of the pay and then it went in on binary people bypass community has all been disproportionately impacted by the panic. so then when we get to who even have the ability to volunteer, that really kind of like makes what we're doing a little precarious in some ways. and so what we do, our vandalism, though, is we try to create a community that really helps support each other in editing this huge trove of natural crows. what you're really doing is your creating history because we're not seeing this history, we're not seeing when it's contribution. and so what you want doing was edit white edit or citation by citation, is creating history that he's not being seen globally. how to get to that, right. i am so glad you brought that up because that's what we're doing. i don't

think any of us said that to be history makers. yeah. we saw something we wanted to do and we just went ahead and did it. but like doing it, we've become these active this and historians i guess in our own right. and i kinda think of it i live in california. i'm traveling right now, but i live in california in the old gold mining town from the california gold rush . and i think about those minors facts and who are like mining for gold and that's what we're doing. we're mining for these notable women and making sure that their stories are told that they're exposed so that they don't just fall by the wayside. and the last history altogether, voltage issue is such a disruptor. it's not easy to do what you do, but just sit and deliberately pulling women who are important and then create like a pdf pages for them. i'm going to show something on my computer,

which is truly stunning when we just think about it. and this is a headline from a few years ago. female noble prize when i think not important enough for what component to ensure a well the watts dr. address, what are the push backs that you get when you say this cousins important? i've done my research is the page data. well, i mean, safe districts in this case is quite fascinating districts and is the nobel laureates in physics. and so, and you know, 2018 when the oscar came out. someone had attempted to create to work a p. d. a page about her. but they fail to find enough references, enough citations that proved to other wikipedia. auditors that don't district and professor don't district and it's not about laurie. it was as new to the. busy she is so that was an in, out at an in other chrissy of wikipedia. it wasn't like a p d or is it looking huh. it was that failure to find enough citations and not really reflects societies ability to recognize and celebrate. huh. because most of most

places were covering has story, became enough enough. newspapers were covering things about how or no trace of how we're being listed. we couldn't find those citations to back it up. so that's one of the biggest challenges the ice age. as we can see, the editor and i know that kira and rosie will agree, then i'll send you have the sensational women. but to be on wikipedia, we need someone to a restaurant about them to have proof of them to have told that story somewhere else. so we can fight it so we can build that encyclopedia entry. so what i really wish and was that science especially, started recognizing women's contribution. people have colors contribution. people from all the head start to much and nicely. we need to be giving them awards. we need to be faxing about them on television and radio programs and say that when encyclopedias and historians on to document that contributions when classroom teachers want to talk about them. and they have face places to go to for knowledge . so that's one of my biggest challenges as a, as

a advocate for women scientists is really finding those places that are honoring them. i am going to find our audience are watching on, which is to be part of this conversation. we've got 4 examples. women of notices who still should have like a pdf pages. do let us know on youtube. i'm going to go to calories is on phelps. she has a pedia page. she is a american nuclear chemist. she thought it would be a page. it's not that easy. she was on like a pdf and then it was quite difficult for her to stay here. when do you see how story? can you come back at the end of it and say, what is going on? that was what is going on here. and then housing through this, this basically this dollars between your own, you're off, your own, you're off. he's clarice being added to a t p. it was actually very, very exciting. i mean, it's one of the most popular places to learn about different people,

places in things. and so it was definitely an exciting moment for me. however, during that process of updating my page, it was taken down a number of times due to different editors. i was thinking that i wasn't able to pull enough or that there wasn't enough sources in order to validate my page reading up there. so as much as it was exciting, it was also a little disconcerting to go through that process. yeah, unfortunately that experience is real and it goes a lot to really just build on with dr. just the thing on those citations. wikipedia works on the citations and if we as editors don't have enough to use, it can make it really challenging. and this is across all disciplines. i know that that was assigned to the doctor, just work specifically with scientists, but even talking about in the art world. if you look at dances,

basic history of western art, which is kind of like the textbook for our history. only 8 percent of those $300.00 plus listed artist or women and less than one percent of them are women of color. and so we just really need to not only do better in terms of like getting more editors to put people from the margins on the computer. also we need the sources of something else that we've done. our timing isn't uh, we actually did a white paper about booking as a reliable source guidelines. because when with the patio was started back, you know, over 20 years ago, these reliable source guidelines were written and it doesn't include really, i mean we've evolved a little bit now, but there is debate now like what is a reliable source like what pod cast cow asked reliable source, and those are all kind of pretty heated discussions in some pockets of the wiki for us on how we can get more of the citations to get more incredible people, the pdf,

raising what is a reliable sales as well. there's actually a policy that tells us what is a reliable source in every one of those $300.00 languages. complete is and it varies english language. we could see this has one thing. and for example, sanskrit with pedia might say something altogether different about what's of reliable source. but basically i can tell you what isn't a reliable source. things like social media, things like blog posts, with some exceptions. like the new york times blog post would be considered acceptable. otherwise we're looking at things like history, books, and textbooks. and as coverage is interviews that the media might do, those are considered reliable sources. other than that, it starts becoming if he thought to just how do you do it,

how do you write the wikipedia entries and then feel comfortable that they're not gonna have some push back and they're not gonna be taken down or added to them or, or people who are not believing that these women are worthy of having a wiki page? i mean, i guess it's, it's a johnny and it's a journey what you're going to find gold, which is what i can reduce their interest rates. you mentioned you find to these incredible nuggets of information. i don't think we've done terry folks, justice, but she is an extraordinary and you click i miss you was part of the navy before she took this job in, in a big national lab in the states. and she worked on the discovery of an elements in the period of the table. and it's quite hard to discuss the elements in the peer to the table. she contributed to the discovery of the admin, tennessee. and this is one of these non naturally occurring elements. so you have to synthesize it in a lab and then be able to measure what you synthesize. and it doesn't list a very long search section because science an inquiry says, the fast black women to contribute to the discovery of an element independent table,

they speak, she's the only nurse of, oh, right. and, but because the walls are and celebrate her know it's really hard to pre sides. and so i keep going. and because you find out tracks like that, you know, because you're in spite but they stories because i know to me dining about her makes me more excited to do the science that i do. i know say that when the wall blonds about her, you will have more young women or more young people or more parents. so more teachers will be excited about science and i, i truly believe that, well, we gets more scientists. and so i, i kind of just pull together as many citations as i can find. if i know that as a really exceptional pass and who isn't getting the credit, they are due, then sometimes i nominate them for awards. sometimes i write to john les and i'm like, you've got to cover that story and because they're not, she just makes it easier to write them. or it could be a page in a few months or years and say so sometimes it's a psycho right wikipedia. if you're on with a pdf,

it's easier to put you forward and nominate you for something or for a journalist to find your story. and if someone finds you a story, it's easier to put you on. wikipedia say sometimes you've got to go to break past cycle a little bit and, but yeah, i keep going because these people are exceptional that stories are inspiring to me and i want the whole world to find out about them. raising. tell us about a person who i think does resonates with you or discovery when i say discovery because of the, the women already out there the, the people who are not often written about that already that but to have them have that moment to, to have that language receive that allows to to receive a certain amount of credibility, who, which is 10 i audience about today. so that's actually a really hard question cuz i've written more than 2000 file graffiti, think about women. but let me, i love your humble brag of rosie. 70000 pick one.

so i'm, i guess i'm going to pick someone called samantha lariche. she's a comics writer and she's french and why i'm going to pick her over the others that i might have used is that i tend to focus on women writers. bradley construed. she is a comics creator. she writes, choose the art as she's the, as trader, and she might actually do the lettering as well. and her article was already written in the french with the pdf. mm hm. there she is. but there was no article in the english with a pdf. and so what i've been doing since about january of this year is a lot of translations from one language, mostly to french or spanish, or tattling to english wikipedia. and i decided to focus on comics creators like kind of like why not its um their,

they should have their do i what my grand daughter, who's loves comics of various sorts to be able to say, hey, there's not just these men's names or women's names that are americans, there's comics writers who live in argentina, live in france and live in spain. and maybe this will give her an idea that this is something she wants to do when she gets older. so that's what i'm going to pick. samantha lariche, i love that to you. i'm going to give you a little moment to have a think about when you would like to pay. but 1st we spoke to all the editors of like a pdf pages to awesome how challenging it was to do the what the site doing, which is expand the number of women not just editing but also i think chad, this is what they told us. what is the biggest challenges in writing about women for we could p a is the way that women's contributions have been systematically downplayed and excluded from the historical record. making, writing

a reliable and accurate encyclopedia entry about them, often impossible. we don't have enough female editors to write and we keep video, we suffer of a deep gender got problem in, in the community. the main challenge for me and is read to me in nebraska is to one of those spend. what is a notable right friends in the ever sense rig versus african perspective? because all of these and mainstream outlets or are not counting our stories or when they are telling them. and they are not telling them in a right perspective. i'm sure it's hot. what you do is really hot. so would you like to just? yeah, go ahead, go ahead. yeah, no, it is, but it's exciting more because i feel like the, the work that we're doing is directly impactful. and so to answer your previous question, there's a couple names that i love to up list. so our companies,

and actually as i'm reading your 10 this year, which is very exciting. and we had our a 10 year celebration in houston uh, in april actually. and so, um, one of the names i want to uplift from that is the, our organizer there, jason oliver. he has a story of how he went to a top and realize that i'll be award. i don't have a page. she's the 1st black ph. d, in our history from the university of texas, actually secure aid or at the fine arts in houston. and she wants to talk real. i shouldn't have a page went home be one, and then was able to, to tell her about it in person, which was like a very special moment. another page that was created. i don't remember the, that is our i key. i'm sorry, a lot here as the me amazing. i'm sorry, i'm just saying it all wrong. and they are a non binary, nigerian fiction writer and video artist. and so their page was created actually by

one of the co founders of our company as an ad and event pack the museum of modern art. and that page has really expanded over time, which is also really exciting to kind of see a page that may have started out in our family, some of that. and then really grown over time. there's also been something that's really exciting to be a part of. i'm gonna bring it and i can i yeah, please go ahead. they'll just say that the most amazing thing is the same. people respond to the pages like, not just people who read them cuz you can get wikipedia. it gives you access to all the information. so you can actually see how many page feeds there are. if you look at the articles every single hour, you know is quite extraordinary and producer how to kind of go to world responds to them. and that's an amazing mathematician that i write about. cool job as west and she's, she was born in virginia. she went to a historically college and university study math. she works in the high school for a little bit before during the calculations that enabled gps. so drive us west,

made it possible for us to use satellite navigation in google maps and apple maps and everything like that that was grab a swift mess, let that happen. and i hope we can see the page on wikipedia. it's been translated into a bunch of languages and, but she's one of these huge awards. you know, she's over 90 now. and she's, she's one and principal at midland price from the royal academy of engineering. and that's have been given to a woman before. and the entire history of surprise, she was inductive to the us as so sort of fame. she was one of the bbc's top 100 women in the world. and it's, it's not because i'm is not because she's just done something remarkable. it's because the world's just non, she's done something remarkable. you know, because that story is on a platform, on an encyclopaedia that is trusted and used by everyone. because this place is the central goes to place the information, irrespective of your political background, irrespective of what you do as a profession, irrespective of your age or your national and see if you're on his own wikipedia.

so if we make sure the stories a hair, if we make sure that we toe and credit women with that discoveries, you happen to have massive impacts. now what we're doing is dual editing with a pedia. but really, i'm seeing 3 digital historians who are making sure that history is being recorded properly. and with gender equity, i'm going to bringing one more week a pedia page, and that is julietta left to go. williams, i'm just reading on wikipedia journalist, an entrepreneur. she spoke to us earlier about what it means to be on with a pdf and there's a box. let's have a nice so let's have a look. sort of giggled to myself quietly. there was no one else around. and then the 2nd thought i had was of this is really going to impress my kids. and of course, that made me happy. but immediately after i felt a little sad because it was yet another reminder that women often have to be the

ones we need. that if we want to have the recognition, if we want to have our work celebrated, if we want to gain any status for the work that we have already been doing, we are the ones that have to show up for ourselves. and so of course, i'm busy, we're all busy doing the work that we're supposed to be doing. and it would be amazing to count on just a plurality of people who contribute to wikipedia, to lift up the voices of people, especially women who are doing the work. so i guess i've got 30 seconds left for each. if you in the next 10 years or so, rosie, we've got 90 percent of biographies who all women features on wikipedia. when will that be 50 percent? i don't know that it's separate. can they get to 50 percent women in red? it was co founded by a man and a woman and what makes our organization different is that i,

we don't care what the ginger is. so this is a societal problem that we have so many fewer biographies about women and leisurely that all genders are welcome and encouraged to create these articles about these notable women. missing these articles from the anchor. so watch raise my push. i really appreciate that. talk to yes. what's the next with a period page that you're going to publish the out then? what does it give us a pro on that sheet? okay, fantastic. yeah, sure i'm, i'm, i'm working through some pages of people who became sellers and members of the american association for the advancement of science, and they're actually pretty great and celebrating women. and i'm ready. um, fantastic, excited about writing that stories up. so i'll be working through that. thank you. talk to jas. thank you. kira. thank you, rosie. as well for being the digital historians making show of the women of featured on with a pdf, one of the wells top websites. thanks so much, and i'll see you next time,

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