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mcguire campaigned on promises to create more jobs and upgrade crumbling facilities . his main challenges nelson, tim is the opposition leader holds frustrations about corruption. high inflation and unemployment will encourage people to vote for him. 5 sizes in northern grace is struggling to contain involved 5 throughout the country for a 5th day in the northeast, the villages were evacuated, organized as fives, burnt across several from strong winds and high temperatures, a hampering 5 finding if it's crews had been battling the flames, for more than a week was the headlines as well as a website out, is there a dot com? has the latest on that top stories? stay tuned. generation change is in by right. of the government. challenges with
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the welcome to generation change a global series that that sense understand and challenge ideas that are mobilizing use around the world. i'm going to stuff on an independent journalist faced 11 on where jen z, campaigners are fighting for radical change. the big challenges they face couldn't be more, is on thing. it's a nomic collapse for the 2nd statement. social unrest and the devastation caused by august 2020 exclusion here. and they episode, we need 2 young people using their skills to combat decades of corruption and fix. ariana basically use the tool to reset the only way for right
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the settings. can you tell me innocent? bit about your childhood and they were there any specific moments or events that saved your political activism? the early part of my childhood was not to be influenced by politics, but as i get older gradually i get interested in these my number, however, also important. most of the ideas and concepts that were created by the you joining us in terms of the secondary and one of the agents of the crisis. so at the end of the days, we're all as far as the products of the societies and the dinner. i usually use in
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soon by the regime, but then i go to expose the various other ideas, move into groups that the try to deliver and alternative vision for what the country may be. so as opposed to what i learned it to be as a child. why do you think that dyslexia club is important and when it's have some kind of effect outside the schools of to the news universities is that kind of love to start that as a social function space for students to know more about politics and the rest of that that's happening as soon as the social groups, and this will have to have even only interest which has to be effective. whether it's a needing on condition. that's what is the, i guess the administration to protect students, freedom or needing long switching strikes which protects the students. right.
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and so is a 19, it was basically the student component of the, of the 17 uprising. but it's also transformed into a force which is able to impose a certain discourse under them. and these landscape are you optimistic that the network will emerge as it relates to movement and 11 on . so the way i see them other than freaks or the movements, then that's where it tells me expensive social space. and then it has thinking the rest of the structure. it does thinking you the idea that there should be creating a comprehension on each other's, most like 30 in forty's, munitions based on the various other forces which are for up to these places. and that's our re forward and i think that's what makes it
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as that you were part of the toner ration that was born and peace time, but in 2006 was changed for you. yeah. can you send me this a bit about dot o as in love and on during the 2006 for a during the summer. i was impressed to physically, but also i took it in and i understood even when i was told that narrative impacts public opinion. but it was really during the 2014 guys when i was entering into major a news organization because i understood the weight and the importance of accountability, journalism and independent journalism. so that towards their own decides look in my career. 7 on witness series of protests and the past years from 2011, 2015 and then the big 2019 process. what was the role of the need? yes. 11 on the means. our own bi partisan groups and political parties,
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which are the political casts at the lots of people and the protest movements rose up against the hearts of corruption or any of that or is which are the main thing media. this information is the illustration of corruption in narrative, an ideas so it's really important for me to focus on the media narrative and also counselor to investigate support. so was the independence with the organization i worked for and i took on the daily news reports and covering the violations. i games for testers. the process were happening all over the country that were me to black out. so we were the ones who said lights on what was going on, and the way that's most needs means to me do this. if there has been any trees and socks on journalists and our mutual workers is freedom of speech and danger and 11 on in your opinion. i think freedom of speech
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right now as going through a specific kind of challenge because of social media and the government's use of social media to intimidate a people interest of censorship. we need to speak against that. whether or not the intimidation. is there a nice thing that lots of independence means at work cuz understand the stress and they understand that. so now is the time to continue with the accountability. journalism continues. we have open source investigations in order to uncover the start to scroll and to the sensitive, completely getting as though thank you so much for being with us here today. your generation did not really witness the civil war in lebanon. however, everyone has been scarred in the country, maybe through our parents or through stories that were here. now i want to start with you. okay. and how did this change your connecticut activism in the country?
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now although we that experience as of, as or we were taught or inherited the narrative about no secondary inclinations, even as long as i'm here with them, you know, the people that we were supposed to think of very highly. and at the end of the day, we also formulated the account and there to the idea that if you're transcending this move or the entrance something the secondary in conversations which exist alongside of it. and this is something we're currently working on. what about to us? so i also have a kind of gimmick of bringing as my parents are both from secular backgrounds. so i had this and go, that's i, uh, got from my parents why understanding the trauma that they lived through during the civil war since it's an inheritance, intergenerational trauma. and the one thing never has this happened again. so this was basically my view point going into politics going into actors and going
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into journalism as well. so, is your generation, more radicals getting more uncompromising in a way? we were thoughts for a long way and living on that business, the country? these are the relationships that exist between the readings to us and the people between the people themselves, between the various political factions which exist in the country. and we're suggesting that there's nothing static about 7 or 7 on there's always in the dynamic sense formation. and we're here, you know, experiencing another dynamic best formation which got about after october 17, which came about after the oldest for exclusion. we new thing that we have the agency to create the volume and alternative as a what are the ways in which you can implement such change in your opinion? i think the trainer and the lots from what's happening around us since the so called error spring. and what people are h as when we're able to achieve not only in 2011, but also in 2019 with us across a rack and video to don. and as squared, and we learned from each other about tactics and futures and his cities the to want
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to work together towards getting your, the chair of the political and working group of the met done network which connect secondary clubs across universities and 11 on can let the transform the student activism into a nationwide political movements and your opinion when i think this or they already have a case in the sense that uh the network is established. and within $12.00 to $13.00 universities, this suggests that there is for tension, for genuine competition between secondary progressive components in the many society against more secondary and reactionary components which have existed historically, the 2nd theirselves are in the network, not only calling for 2nd years, and they're also calling for a why their progressive package. it also deals with social justice, more democratic inclusion, ideas pertaining to legal thinking memory than from nora's. which of this is the
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story there society and so enough, and distant ideological group, we are part of the site that you were speaking to them with their basic needs. how can you actually convince people who might be even older than this generation to vote outside the school of their sex? when you have 18 sex and 11 on when you have political parties that are based on their sex and that's are not based on marriage or even the politics. the problem with start getting such a question is that we need to talk a switch, which is client and isn't from someone. and thoughts broke, but it's a concern. they're also working for the ability to get the job to be able to get, to get in a school, to be able to get social welfare and all of these things that are tied to 6th period political parties. so really thinking about getting people to go to outside of their success and gloria to we need to also be cognizant that we are telling them to make themselves vulnerable to a reality without the associated protections. and the parents good protections of
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a mainstream political party with us with them. so this opposition is men should have a certain i turn, it says and realistic solutions to the 6 there in times in a sick system that has been in greens of the institution and as the parts and parts of our life. so what you're seeing basically is that non sectarian opposition groups need to compete with these long last same political parties by proving that this is not the way. so actually, i mean, this is a very interesting phenomenon. this happens after august for and they don't blast people came together from a pro 7 non and forms of networks of solidarity and finance and collaborative. a ton of their networks then don't mimic the same authoritarian trying to mystic structure as the trust. so used to getting the government would
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say that they are attempting to attack and corruption 11 on was establishing an onto corruption committee and, and you law, tackling corruption in the country. what's your opinion on the, in the middle in particular the, the term corruption is basically a potentially, i mean, particularly when it's empty corruption. because the issue and the was not just corruption in the sense that you know, we have some interest being distributed within states, texas. it's a very structured stomach issue. we have and has been amplified since the ninety's . we have a run based economy that's completely based on monopolies, the banking sector, plus the real estate sex. there. we have a sectarian system which continue to distribute on ministry is all of us for years that have come across after the war. we have enlarged that we have a lot of the social and economic inequality. no productive sexes, which produce anything. and then we're simply living the remnants of an extremely
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me with a be with an unfair economy. so people that are saying we want to fix corruption, but don't even want to fight back at the interest of the only guarantee and the banks. then we can really trust whether they're actually fighting corruption. so as long as this is at stake, there is no such thing as anti corruption. as i saw on august 4th, 2020 tons of ammonium nitrate exploded and bait or causing damage to the whole city . can you tell me what happened on that day? so i was in the office, i had to work call in the middle of it and then 6, so 8 happens. and then i felt a tremor that took me back and forth and i hadn't realized what had happened. but i heard the noise of a huge explosion, and i saw that everything was destroyed around us. uh, our colleagues were really close to the windows, and we were trying to figure out if anyone was injured. and because my parts of my office were right beside each other, and i could see complete destruction of my apartment. because this was an office
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for an independent seem to organization some of our videographers. so the 3rd year and they went down to film, the carnage. it was a complete massacre. it was a something that's i think no one wants to move to again forever. what about to cutting ones? i heard the explosion and i felt that everything was shaking. the 1st thoughts. that means all mine is a. this is it. i also specified the position i was in because i felt maybe the building could collapse at any moment. so it was extreme on certainty. about the next 30 minutes after i was out and took my car, i noticed that people are injured everywhere. so it was a huge catastrophic moment in which every thing norman, in our lives was host. how's that you mentioned that you were in an office working
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with an independent media organization. did you manage after that to resume your work direct piece? i think what she wanted us to continue and to actually double down on our reporting and on our coverage was our anger towards whatever happened and whoever were responsible. so this could be seen with our investigations with our they didn't use coverage and trying to piece together what's happened. why was there a fire? what's blue before that? i'm on united states, where was it exactly and which warehouse was able to look at? okay. this video was taken on the roof of this building, and this time, this enables me to actually piece together something so that i can know what's happened because the anxiety of not knowing was worse then the inside see us. what happens ashtosh. $16000000000.00 is the number estimated when we talked about the
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damages. that's what caused by this explosion. there's so many legs. i accusations that corruption reached aids where that's corruption ends cutting the 8 is that's the name of the answer to corruption. because feeding this regime with more funds by thinking the by the international community, we're the only need to it's reproduction and it's safe go. i think it's own bases. distribution isn't us, is in the hundreds of thousands of people from various social groups and 9 relevant 6. so many of the they mobilize and it creates a different system. so, so the diversity, this could potentially create an advocate, the resistance of the origin. but there is no certainty insights, but there is always hol, can i just jump in here? when i look up for i understand corruption, it doesn't just american institution and governments or perspective,
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but if there's corruption, one place that's probably tied to corruption elsewhere. when megaphone used as an investigation about the origins of the ship that brought the ammonium nitrate to the basement sports, they were tied to syrian russian firms with addresses in london. so corruption is the b. o been nice thing when we want to understand and to fights, corruption, we need to think about it as a system of solidarity that is bored during this, at the same time and collaborate with independence needs organizations just like the panama papers have done to uncover money laundering scandals across the world. i think there's only really important what she said, but there's also something at the emphasize on based on this, that ebony is regime is tied to international and global interest which sustain it . now that is something to critique,
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but it's also something to look at and slightly so be inspired from that. if we do break these things, or if we do create alternative things across the borders, that good multiply the strength of our movements. and potentially we could benefit from an alternative, international and network of people who are thinking this way. and that's how we can create alternative power in the country and ultimately replace other countries even site. i mean, could you just looking at the process, started tactics from the 20 october 2019 protest movements. we learned from hong kong. we learned from turkey. we learned from some done and then again in may 2021 . the george floyd process started the news activist help or create as a guides for the black lives matter act was in minnesota in order to a house. um, in terms of just
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a secure proceed help with tear gas. so this started there doesn't just transcend our fight against corruption. but also our sites are gains up to an authorized syrian regina and oppressors. one of the so many challenges that this country is facing is integration or brain drain. many of the young generation are leaving for good. i didn't, you mentioned that you are part of the met the network, which is connecting different secular clubs. but the process are kind of on hold right now. how do much of a people, how to revise these events and the streets? not many people have the luxury to go out. a lot of people are stuck here in the sense and they have no choice but to fight back for these after the oldest for explosion. when the people listen to me, okay, fine, which is where they were saying, you know, this makes some calculations and see if we can afford this or that they just went. sometimes we assume that if people mean rates, then they don't have their own. but this is a huge associates on the living is receiving benefits from the base for the
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benefits from the side that we're gonna export everyone. and then they'll give us the money so we can sustain ourselves. the opposition has a reality. the reality is that people are outside. how can they benefit us? well, most of organizations and making the i can, the mechanisms are becoming online as dressers movements. so people can take part in meetings and sharing ideas and talking to people and getting heaps of people to vote. so that's all about raising alternative networks by using that ice for that was exported by the regime itself. also came, i think as opposition groups or as students or union organizers, we need to learn to do either tonight or hope for the future, which we saw on the streets in the beginning of the 17. october's 2019 a protest movements. people were coming together and dancing cooking together, singing together, trading, sings with each other. these are in formal systems of relationships and chains.
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that's has never been seen in a tooth downtown beetles, on certain before it started the civil war. as that we do know how media is one of the allies and 11 on how it's tied to private businesses to politicians. how can you change that? so 1st i think we need to recognize that 12 point to confirm are you on at least half of the mainstream media and 11 on the other half is either owned by businessman, by individuals, politically affinity is owned by specific political parties. so the controlling over one, the media, but 2 and most important to this course and the sources of information is squarely in the hands of those and powers. but independence means it. organizations have found ways modernizing the just florida and becoming important sources of information from the ground since they are the only ones that from from the ground
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from the point of view of the protesters from your point of view of the of trust. but again, the independent media needs to work together with a grassroots movement width of, of sites, organizations to bring together all these things in order to have a sustainable future. when you talk about all of these hopes and dreams, there's a certain component that we need to talk about and that is challenging. is secular states has been the as a dominant political shape for 1011 on. now some argue that they are est with an estate. how do you bid the secular government with the presence of such parts? and i don't think it's even possible to look for genuine the rather because we're forming the country with the states. but in this state like has about the which is not just a party that distributes it's an infrastructure of a state though the says that parts the base and other conflicts in the region. and it also tokenize is on there is because now the question remains,
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how do we resist this? and i knew also have an issue with those who proclaimed to fight against his below when in fact they only tackled sensible from their own success area. in point of view, but was never april aggressive starting point. and that's something that's extremely necessary. they want to go a step forward, but isn't that challenging because has been less as that they are present to defend the new ford. there is the only way to tack is such a for me, it's a nips thing, as well as to recreate a new nurse. it does not mean we have to concede has well, at all. in fact, that's a big mistake. many opposition parties are doing. we need to continue creating this account that 100 melanie from the starting point, which is secular, progressive and insularity with all of those oppressed by as well. and by not as
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well. yeah. so is there a space for optimism in a country so complex like 11 on that's the weights for the 2022 elections for some kind of change. there is never pessimism or optimism. there is a complex reality as you said. and this complex, at the end of itself, gives us hope because what's happening this year may not happen 3 years later. but the 2022 elections cannot be seen as a break, so it can only be seen as of 2 or however many other breakthroughs a wait because at the end of the day. so just heading in october 29. 2019 was not thinking that was in his actions. he was thinking out by the streets and the streets could to reinvent themselves as does that mean these really? so i agree completely with cream and saying that elections as a to no,
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it's not the means to an end, i think organizing. so send the kids to clubs to students unions and across identities and succeed in loyalties is really important. so are you going to be the generation that's find a solution for this ongoing crisis and level? i'd also so it's a lot of responsibility for a generation because i think our parents don't, they would be that generation. and i fingerprints don't. they wouldn't be that generation. so maybe, well, listen, i actually think there's no such thing as this. you know, one time change in the country level and 200 years ago was different than 11 on today. and socially move is always existed and pressure and in a certain direction. so i think each generation made its contribution and we're here to make our modest contribution and to see what comes ahead of us. that fits
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for this episode of generation change comes up and on katie mazda, thank you so much for taking part. it's been a very enlightening conversation. thank you. thank sooner the new generation of young people and making demands to be balanced society. welcome to generation change a global series to attempt to understand content. and the idea is that mobilize use around the world in london to activate a tackling the root causes of youth violence. many young people die perpetuating violence. i guess i'll be young. people themselves have also been victim multiple times. my generation can try redesign or reshape this generation. change on ouch is era the
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