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hello and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. thailand's democracy enters another phase just as a tower and political figure from his post were tons from exile to extension of what was west from the airport to prison, to stop. so having an 8 year sentence for the strong speculation that he and his plant type policy had been arrangements with the possible military for his return and for the formation of a new government. meanwhile, the move forward policy, which one made the election as sidelined times democracy, has been fragile, with governments overthrown by the generals who remain in overall control will be picking through what all this means to thailand in a moment with all guests but fast, his tony chang in buying coke with more on what people think of the latest political, many of us. it's being a dramatic 24 hours in thailand, tex and sion while the former prime minister to be and self imposed exile for 15

years. but arguably, the most influential figure in type politics for more than 2 decades were 10. he was met at the airport by a huge crowds there what's the way by the police to the supreme court, and then on to jail, to stop and they to attempt. then in the middle of the night taken to hospital the medical complications and well, all of that was going on, tyler and go to new prime minister of the full months to political deadlock. so that's, that's how we send representing the prototype political party became 2nd in the general election. he'll now form a coalition government. but in order to do that, he's going to have to join with 3 part is a light, the military part of the last administration. and the big picture is time versus voted overwhelmingly for reform and for change. move for the punch in the one, the election has been shelves down to the side and put time this coalition government is going to find it very hard to create any real reform. how much of the

frustrations of those boats is going to spill out on to the streets as they have in the past and will text and who's been such a divisive figure in the past, proved to be a peace maker or trouble making. tony chang for inside story. bank of the well joining us now a guest in buying colt pen, child us every one, a boot, a specialist on thailand's electrical system. and i'm associate professor at my adult university in saint paul is duncan mccall go professor of public policy in global affairs, non young technological university. he's the coal, so of the tex than eyes ation of thailand. and also in bangkok is cast it problem. yeah. a full met tight a form of foreign minister of thailand. he's a democratic policy politician and a full my yellow shirts active. it's very warm. welcome to all of you. that's it. let's start with you. it's no coincidence isn't that tie it talks and has returned

home on the same day that his policy is know, many for prime minister one the votes in parliament was there a deal between plants high and the ministry which as well, you know, a 2 traditional enemies and so we saw on the match the elections on the 14 of may, the move forward, unexpectedly and beyond expectation and so on. at 140000000, the bullets unprecedented and expected. and if the poppy had defeated, if we the political party especially the established political party lied to put a tight under the leadership of the father of 5 and use the same as well as the establish poppies. backed by a couple of generals who stated she took who they bought it in 2014. and

the move solve a has been coming out with a policy campaign and platform to bring about the drastic changes and transform mission of the kingdom of thailand. to become more democratic, that's it from that she's trying to jump in that because what we do know all of this from the outcome of the election. but what we want to know is how tax in managed to come back home on the same day that his policy to play a type policy was able to put impala then know many for prime minister by forming a coalition with to prove military policies. the minute trip was having ousted him some over 10 years ago before 20 years ago. the full i think that has but that, but that have been a lot of behind the scene negotiation between trucks in the military establishment and the conservative element of the state. and thailand, but that part of the because these to the minute treat implants high, a traditional enemies within the tight political it's fair but now they have

a more or more would you be. busy dangerous comment, any me, me in the name of the forward puppy that wants that to bring about changes on top student or the ability to general set the so on the icons. so, but these, they don't want to see chain, they want to see this paper as cool. so even that send us the kind of stands that his have forced him to come to get as positive because establishment and to oppose to the, to any changes that would make thailand the kingdom. i'm on the big one more or put more thought to sick bay tree pumped out a, this is a real see change with highland distance at the ports high. and the ministry joining forces at least to secure the return of tax and, and to stay in power. does this mean that plaid ty has become part of the establishment? well, yes, this is,

this is really clear that out what i have starting to build a military political parties, and the, you know, to leave all forward behind would be an opposition party. this is not, i couldn't be unpopular tired style because you know, in the next election what time you spend a lot of problems in the election convenience. and i was sort of like trying to resolve because most of the types of parker as you know, the one guitar could be a leader and a prime minister and from the government to get that bid, then move forward. this is a form of democratic science. so they are, i think they as a police appointing that what time already know, switching to find the department to become human something. and that's why, as you mentioned earlier, that the do a visual being put try a party and a tool when it could be party. they kind of fond together in order to bring texting back. and at the same time, the to minutes, we political party continues to maintain that power in the college and government, and then they continue to load a real country up to a new tire. and once again, duncan, we've been here before, haven't way in thailand. the losing policy guessing to rule the winning policy

sidelines except normally the losing policy or is every election since 2001 the losing policy is being put. hi. i think, yeah, i always find good saying this time is usually well known for on the election results in a thoroughly democratic manner. but we also found in the past is that the election results is one thing and the outcome is quite another. for example, in the last section in 2019 things didn't turn out exactly as close the front military site, didn't get the kind of edge that they want to give him the problem. and then, lo and behold, the election commission disappeared behind close tools to recalculate your method of allocating popular seats, gave out a few seats to some small micro politics that no one expected to be in the bottom. and then lo and behold, the permanent latrete conservative side was able to form a couple of mission and run the country for the next 4 years. so not so many people were aware of that kind of behind the scenes, but new but thoughts this time with the leading stream,

the vs machinations of the senate to be taught to move forward to lead. a full be coming from houston is just really relevant to improve pro, lot of people's taste that confronted with the reality that bedrooms are not necessarily the determining factor. and it was actually got a full government and it's a pulse. it's true that there's a common enemy and move forward became a very clear comment. and i mean, when this extremely strong showing up did, but many people believe only something's hearing as early as february or before that there was already an understanding between tax and specifically himself. and the leaders all that was part of military policy, some with the tax and it's not just about prototype, it's really about him. and he has a well mean desire to reach out to try them for his old services. he's quite ready to sacrifice the, to the future, eventually interest of his policy for his own personal. okay. okay. got it from you

. what do you think toxins own purposes? um why has he come back now? well, i think he's good. the old. he's 74 years old. he wanted to come back and nowadays an opening because he was able to reach out to them military establishment and make a deal. so he why he succeeded in making the deal for himself and he bowed. i think it was you good enough to discard the mass apart and so on the back of what time did he make this dale to come back? well, i think it's a personal wish and so on. and secondly, is that they keeping that one to say he's probably using the government, they can recoup the situation tool, police policy measures, and so on. so you so risk taking with the hope that they could recover later and overcome the i think the for me. doable challenges for coming from to move forward

and try to do you think we're going to see tax and behind falls for any length of time he's supposed to be serving 8. yes, i think a and he said a couple of hours for he was with 1000 put into hospital, which correspondent noted was about the strange given he looked perfectly healthy when he arrived at the airport just a few hours earlier doing part of this deal is but he is going to work for you as well. yes. you know, this is not, this is not a part time person is that, you know, a big person that be enjo and you know, doing this kind of story, you know. and then moving from sales, who has control and then it does disappear. this is not the 1st time, but i didn't know when he'd come back to these times. i think, you know, he used to play a role in politics and he's gonna work on the police behind his dean. even though he, you know, at the point his own people and you know, learn how to become the problem in but of all of his family. and he himself said

that he doesn't want to be involved in politics anymore. but you can see on how to inform the government and how i'm tired of what he's doc or to me come to know to become the kind of the nation as a prime minister on these kind of the, you know, as a professor. and i can say it's all about him. so he thought about political party is not about the time. and it's not about the high people with others. and that's why, you know, is this going to mean, but high and also to this college and going to be a hard time to go to country and it's, and it's actually in the next election. but probably do spend a lot of trouble in order, you know, it could be to be the election in the next election as well. so i'm human said that they have a high potential to put high have you food apart, because you know, they cannot really get any bored apart from back to parker anymore except the rio rec time that they might support high accident in the following elections. so i think these kind of move past and the time party boom at the parties. so acting

that these families have a hard time to so live in the type of, especially to be in the next election. it doesn't do you agree with that? because we know that for us, i lost a lot of it's votes to the move for the policy, but now it isn't government and it's got the support of the military behind it. that's a pretty powerful force as we've seen in time politics. do you think we're going to be seeing for us high subbing out the whole tom? the batteries was very other place because it could be undergoing imperative instability either of what kinds of things wanted me to happen over the next couple of years. for example, the change in the current role that allows the senate to have a try to veto through the mentoring focus on who gets to be prime minister and that expires in may of next year. so the possibility of some reorganization of room and coalition is starting upstair. it's not clear whether this got which is really likely to be able to go to, to one of the big questions with

a party like personalized. why did people think rich, adams, you know, i've seen other countries, people play with the bodies, but variety of reasons, but only for the politics, because they sold will say, despite the baby, extensively in doing the right thing for the country. so per diagnose not very strong, low column networks of with the bad empties, who can deliver photos on the ground to some extent irrespective of the performance of the policy. so the birds i may be able to continue mobilizing some of those in the traditional hall, lansing the face. what we saw in this last selection was an incredible erosion of those own, but it seems to be both take. so what's really interesting now a scary bob just prototype of the, of the sort of traditional policies as well is, has the election gain change is not best about the time when it was an employee of a sudden and to give some improvements in my and how much more is it about big ideas and questions and ways with the policy presents itself idea of logically

because the advertising trouble must be much by moving forward and could be kind of buying all the policies, but take the mental all aggressive route in the future. and as we saw in the flexion, the type people have spoken now off to a more progressive form of politics. the only thing that's stopping them, cast it for romeo, is the minute tree with its power. and its grip impala as duncan said in may next you will lose its grip on the senate. do think it's taking a gamble by getting into bed, but plats high because what size we know is the traditional enemy of the ministry. will it be seeking to change the constitution to try and less than the minute? truth power? well, i think i the day to be tired general so well, i think i control 2 political parties. there are no longer active military personnel, and i don't think that they still retain much influence inside the military

establishment. so in that sense, they have to cling on to the political arena and by typing associating themselves with the type the taxi and then so on. it also prolongs that political life and enjoying seeing the affairs of gulf, the kingdom as to the ability to establish man and a self at the moment they kind of see pipe. because of the fact that the most solid wood wishes to reform drastically, the ability to reestablish been now we will no longer take less. because i suspect that that use already the, the, the standing at the agreement between the military establishment and the top student at the time. not to touch the reform question of the military as a whole. so that's like keep a tech and so on going on. but let me go back one thing of up and talk soon. he's also waiting for this be to be submitted. so he gets mad just be the king. so he's waiting for the pot and also so in that said the in the delta will not be they

become valid for give them. so he holds on that one. and they might be some sort of a tacit understanding that the petition would be a supplement. it so it gives might just be the king to be in touch soon to be given the next day, the deposit and so on, and having the text in for a few years, a long time back. i don't think that you would give up any, i'd be, should know about rounding the country. you will not be about politics. and once you pick up a free man, he will, i think the name of his admission to lead thailand into the future. my interest is one of the time and so on, you know, he's, he's a man who died. so take this a hi, katie, what to stay. you know, then i go for the next step. i can do it because of them it. if that is the case, what do you think will be the reaction? i ask you specifically because you are a fully yellow shuts activist and you were involved in uh it was like vocal against

tax. and when he did win the election noon, but trying to um, seat his policy in 2008 and even supported the siege of the apple. and it was a very to mount to his time during the time politics will thailand let tax in with a thing and did the, i think the equation of type of lead to go to read the has change now before it was competition among the funds. so what the affections in, in the fix, but now it is between the conservative and the mentors of the type politics they establish man versus the cold race, the bosses of the masses of that type. people led by the move forward body. so he's between the elite and the mass is no longer the stucco and the in fighting inside the military as a inside the consult with the best that they spend, which puts in was one of the establishment of the very beginning. but you want that to model for lies the establishment. that's why he was

a horse and finally kicked out. but now he had come back to i think chick had with him because of the most already about challenges. thoughts coming from the progressive pauses of pilot? i mean, i told her it was interesting was that when texting arrived, he made a great show of kneeling before the portrays of the king. this is a king who strips tax and of his royal on is just a few years ago because he was so horrified by the charges of corruption against him. i mean, again, it just seems to be a constant app of flow, of people in the tight establishment in ty, politics has tax. and now i'm very pro monica well, you know, that hardly acts you know, um and how you plan. and because these, you know, now you trying to be like pro consumer, keep them probably one id not only the, even, maybe, you know, get back into the highlands. if you look at the news all the time in the past

couple years, you, family, you know, have the 16th of holidays and then you know, give away needs a king is on the new sometime and we can see that. and also, you know, um, before they find are they use arrive, use of price. um maybe in tip top the, the, the other guy, the. * or the dishes and the tire time party. he came to the airport and then set up everything sent out. if you go and send out everything to, to make sure that when he came out to get out from the airport, you compare it to the king 6 or so then that's why a lot of times people, they are criticized. you know, all of that. um, texting maybe she and she didn't use by the i'll let you, i need her to be pro. well, not be and you know, maybe times to be a part of the fun stomach shoot site. and now you know, um, when does it say we, i have the, the, uh, the political conflict, not the same time anymore. one of the rates for the yellow truck, but it would probably be the consignment he liked by the military and also what hi

and maybe to join in it. and also uh the um the, the democratic site which is going to be the fall. what party uh, do you think were going to say another color should rise up because time people they may be stymied at the ballot box, but that's certainly vocal when they don't get that voices heard at the ballot box . do you think? i mean, i'm quite surprised that we haven't seen more praise has so far from all the people who voted for move for the it seems to be quite clause on that front. i guess because the new color is orange and orange is, is a blend of yellow and red. and that's the color of the booster box. so yeah, and it's, it's because of the future football team. we did have large scale protests, mostly set by students and younger people in the 2nd, on 2024 which makes stream extensive. people tend to focus on small, not roll them in bank talk. if i there was some results from all over the country. so we saw that process could be mobilized quite rapidly by groups of people who,

but not necessarily in the lines with neither the old yellow, red fashions. but that was 3 years ago. many of the lead us about very much, i'm no longer in a position to, to do what they did before. they faced legal charges. they've been terrorist that they have um, it's very, very difficult to function in the years of followed. so it's difficult to see exactly where a large mass of people wouldn't come phone to be mobilized. but we've also got to say that if we look at the previous process, including the p d. c process in 201314 against the government. these pro just kind of come out of nowhere, it can seem that they're really all very many people who are furious enough to change the stories and then they need. so i think it's, it's very difficult to produce anything about type politics, particularly difficult to predict whether there is no potential uncompressed something for a new mobilization of st. politics because of those phenomena can happen very so

you can let me take a matter of days or weeks for a new movement to start to emerge. i'm typically when it doesn't much, it doesn't take me to the exact same people as it's the median for causes. so we could be in the something new. but it's likely to be exactly what we've seen before . yeah, that's very interesting because it's her only a week to so i should know we did invite and then with the move forward policy to come on to this discussion. but we didn't have a response, which we felt was quite unusual because they have come on and they've spoken before at length. i wonder why they all stepping back from the spotlights. what role are they going to take now? and what all that follow is going to do next. i think the taking stop of the situation, you know, looking at the formation of the new cabinet ministers and so on. but over all the seats of this content been going on in the tire. so scientific. ringback in

a way it's or lee as fuel spot of something to happen. then that would be more rarely use under speed and so on. and 2nd it is that the former lead the most all the, uh, the uh, in particular going to not on will he take the lead in the x, the men 3 active. what the is that the is the sweet live use or not? it has to be on and off. you're not on the speed behind the scenes in front of the said we'll, we'll tell you, you take the mantle of the lead, the shape you know to i think bush fall, but the democratize of us station process of, of thailand that changed to us of the to have a new, fun situation and so on all of this, i think the things that happen being very fast, but i think one has to be a big bishop to see what, what will happen. but i think that it does, or that they're not feeling that that would be something more protest who will lead

on all of this and so on. because that a lot of things that the people do not like you know, denial, the 14000000 boards, you know, the treatment and the special treatment and to attack student and so on. i see that he is like, uh, you know, uh a law or something like this. he is not an auditory personnel and all of this and so on. and all the excuses that i've cop, i think it's people and i think it makes people feel that all of this politicians and bureaucrats may uh, looking at the people that they are now. you've the kind of say get v, i not buffalos. but i think so far the type people have been treated like buffaloes, and that is the seat of discipline. 10 men that will pop up individually, you know, maybe not at this moment, but i think it will come up as that. they do it for the day is to come on to it as a, as kind of a problem. it says things happening fast at the moment, but changes certainly slow to come to tied on. when do you think the people's vote

will be on it? when will democracy will? yeah, before i ask you coming up, i'll let some more that i actually move on. what is not quite a, if you look at the, you know, social media or can i call and ask you very much in a couple of days. and then most of the, of the most part would be actually a lot of that to talk and it will start graham, and on and on the best, who can sweep or so then they are not quiet. so what's going on with i think you called in been day will be find a boarding session. so i don't think that will solve or it's quiet about all these kind of thing happen. and they plan a, hey, i think i already planned what's going to do, but highland, who have my real democracy, i think so. the next election is really important. i didn't move out, would have a high and you know, potentially also being the last light because people are upset seems of what's going on a tight and you know, what's the, what's going on for the point to this time. most people abuse apartment with the

fall or in the next election. so and i have a chance to discuss this be my from my read, sorry to be a lot of a while on mt. they always send the same thing that big for the next time. they do fine. okay. duncan, just a minute. we've got left. do you think the next election in thailand will be on it? well, i'd certainly like to think so. right. it's going to get more more difficult, but the cost to move forward has a number of problems, one of which they produced. ready they couldn't even be just old enough to reinvent themselves and you know, the whole political landscape wouldn't change. so it wasn't, that wasn't mentioned right now. it feels like the last slide, but it's really difficult to predict things put into the next year or so because we've been in a very, very different situation before too long. and i know that certainly as we can never say that type politics as boring. many things, so all guess today for joining us, pennsaid to us or want to boot? duncan mccaul, go and cast it param. yeah. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program

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