interesting, especially, there is no wagner here in ukraine or any of the russian, a controlled parts of ukraine. it is cease to exist as an organization. we know that in this, especially with the russian military, with the establishment of, of the ministry of defense. there was this effort to get bob, the soldiers to sign contracts with the, the russian defense ministry, its own clear exactly how. how many wagner fighters have done that have gone over and signed contracts? because of course, many of these involved in the fight is off all the russian soldiers who have left the russian military for whatever reasons. many of them wanting nothing more to do with the russian military establishment prefer during the day, the more swashbuckling life of a private lesson, re that spot, but a page and so on. so it's unclear exactly how many of these bonds the fight is of going back to as a russian ministry of defense. how many of them now may have signed for regular russian units and be fighting on russian?

so i, but as the officially at least the bot, net structure does not exist here, it does exist north of here in bella. ruth, and clearly that all concerns just about what this might be, whether this leads to another period of insecurity. i do box the fights as may be taking a take on some sort of maverick rolled along the northern border between ukraine and valor roost. do they take that fight back to the kremlin, which would cause instability within russia? internally, which may take some pressure off the the lines here which might be welcomed by the ukrainian military if you have a resurgence of this new to be type activity. but uh these uh for the rogue wagner . that unit says we sold a couple of months ago, so it does rebate, unclear. we've been talking to people out in the streets. this is a public holiday here with independence day. we've been, it is a hot topic of conversation to be given precautions. note to riots,

the lots of people have been talking about this is at the top story in the media here about just what happened to him and about his demise. a lot of people had spoken to said, well, it doesn't really matter. we're still at war with russia, whether those a russian, wagner fights is, or russian at regular military units that is still existing. she'll struggle a fight that we are involved in that will continue a lot of other people seeming to indicate quite cynically, perhaps that that was i knew never to bill it to you about this that a precaution and he's very public fights with the russian defense ministry that embarked on several months ago, i basically set the clock tickets ultimately leading now to his ultimate design device. okay, but bride talking to us that from a cave, thanks very much, rob. well, if you're just joining us is just go on 17 foot t gmc and we're rolling on the breaking news from vladimir, put in the russian president,

expressing condolences to the families of those killed in the private saying crush on wednesday. progression was a talented mind said vladimir putin, but with a difficult faith. this is the 1st official confirmation we have had from the kremlin on the death of it's kenny for goes in, which is some 24 hours ago of to that private plane came down just north of most go on its way to some peaches, but with 10 people on board 7, the members according to the passenger list and 3 crew members. and this is just 2 months off to progress and marched on must go. he had a short lived mutiny against russia's ministry leadership, during which he shut down several at croft, and at least 13 russians. service members were killed, present time, said that wagner had betrayed russia and we'll on so for it. but he had a lot provision to we deployed to better recently, recently, a pad and

a video from loni. we're of course, bob now has lots of presence across the african continent. but he had returned to russia was on that plane, according to the passenger list. and just in the last hour and a half we have had with the official confirmation from the kremlin up to 24 hours of radio silence that is going to eat for goshen has died in that plane crash that's bringing. so gay ma call if he's a former public spokesman full president, boots and, and director of institute of fiscal studies in moscow and joins us now from moscow festivals. so again, very interested to get an idea from you, your response to the way present. vladimir putin spoke about the death of gift any progression. this is the 1st time we've heard it from the president's mouth in 24 hours after that crash despite him appearing and a number of public forums and given a number of speeches today. it's uh,

like i said, no use that. uh probably uh full wait a minute or 2, not for clarendon florida, and i sort of just was um, but that would be better not to wait. my uh so many hours, but uh to use some. um, some deshawn all work separately and uh, as soon as possible. just uh, was immediate. as americans do exist, the bleachers do exist. uh, we know that i made a comment, but it just sent me to, to uh, the allies on blame uh, within the policy to engulf because i think uh more of a professional. uh, what are some sort of to to do? is this a uh, brand new uh, clearly uh, are you kidding and assorted or do exist. but um, let me put you on is uh to uh, the one with the tools that more and raging sounds and use that as a result of us and just to gauge. and as you know, is that,

uh you're getting it because it was a bit. uh, a cloud guy. uh, yeah, seen cars and trucks. busy is that uh uh, is she a little nicer sufficient to come from? i mean, if that is not back, i use you, said the driver when he met with you on the was waiting solo. right. okay, what is the future of the wagner group in russia and indeed around the world, it's got so much presence in on the african continent. i think it's more or less clear. we know that the almost 80 percent of the group by just get assigned comes next loose that are some different to me is 3. and what is this means you are 5. do you find these uh, 10 percent ballpark? no, uh no stays off. it got sent to central park, got left to bill on us and i see uh they will come to, you know, to do it because uh, i can't, you know, increasing things that employers as

a whole and just a rush. and i think a horrible, separate and i've had been uh, if you uh, a few days before and you didn't, if it was on by the way we saw through well, when i 1st started as a 2 bottles of cease was this awesome. i shop optic. i'm florida and i met with the object and the lead us on sign. the contract was security. resist come. and i saw some of them will say, you know, if they got some example saying doing that after, because the last time i got them pretty much interesting about getting experience. those aren't really more than the war when you're getting into that for that. i'm bet to prevent and the last i made possible for the defense to defend didn't go far, but let us from aggression on because on the government that doing side the way you doing, sir james to provide the like i said to me, you know, calling it that line advisor, a technical look to

a government had been left to buy labor, which was the typical billing asset to pack the letter from a board, a segregation. and so i don't want to, i will go through the window of knowing you uh, possibly uh, the label apartment or were you uh is that approximate its it to be in athletics, private. i made it to a group feature related plus uh, box got a but as a fight, as will say, it was a real close to that not, not enough. i just really suggest it to signing contracts. we've gone on with those, the tools. so it was, there will be more governmental entity, okay? so the bank is saying how many of those bites is whether indeed sign those contract . do you think that russia, the kremlin, is more stable or less stable? following the death of any propane provision, a uh, a single bit less stable. uh, because this, uh, a terry stuff i think sure was that you couldn't, you know, sort of just,

i can make kind of tentative stuff that goes up way. but when i replaced the laptop, i probably may lead cuz i use private place, and that stands as a also wouldn't be tied yet at all. for now you can instead of just stick it back. uh, also uh, is this information uh, files uh asked uh, getting calls from uh 50 to call box. uh you gave records and also i made that a lot of people uh, very sore time because people do is people didn't have this their whole day. what's happening and it's not on this, but it or something. i made it on the sort. it is a blame. glad you were to put you on a for getting you're getting a pretty good spot. the, the fuck, the rest of the lead goal is to be as that as executive which i like you came as an international event. so people, uh, places that the immediate people,

it reads at the executive go for getting, if it goes on would be in decatur signal or something of that increasing comp. wanted to go bought or inside the contracts. uh and uh, inside the drum unit and do this. uh, that is the, you know, assemble is that possible that oppression that gives bottles, that easy to possibly, uh, hold a real take. oh, uh, physician owns that. don't have an option. uh, so it is now mcgee, we believe that the local das reminds that the docs and that sort of this. and then i said, he believe, i certainly didn't believe those infiniti position as a brand. that's all the calls will be. it will stay on the top of the show as a phrase. oh, okay, so good luck of joining us that from most go, thanks very much for bringing your view from the let's go live now to mike tyler. he joins us from washington. d. c. been about an hour and a half now come up to 2 hours. mike, since that may appear to me,

those remotes confirming the death of, of getting put goes and any response so far from the white house, ro, officials are in washington still no response to the immediate comments made by that to me, a boot in the heart of a within the past 24 hours, it has been coming from president biden, who's remains on vacation. he said, when ost by report is that there's nothing that happens in russia that boots and is not behind raising the suspicion that vladimir putin may be responsible for the death of yes. can you put a goshen? however, the list is something that has been hinted that before by president biden month last month, president 5 and said on the sidelines up at summit jokingly. as that as a precaution should be careful about what he eats. this was off to the mutiny by the wagner group a week off to bite and made that comment, the director of the c i. hey william burns made

a similar statement saying that promotion should get a food taste. so within us circles intelligence, political that has been a speculation that they may be more behind this accident than would appear. and certainly note a body is saying that publicly know us agency is saying that publicly as of yet, however, it's understood that there is a lot of speculation and intelligence that goes in particular. okay. like kind of bring us to view that from washington d. c. thanks very much as told now more about this with mock 10 minute ski. he's a non resident fellow at the atlantic counseling, joins us live from new york. so the big question, of course, on everyone's lips as it has been for the last 24 hours, perhaps even more so now, since vladimir putin has come out to confirm the death of the goshen is who killed him. the 1st of all, thank you for having me. i think that this is president 14 showing his power and

forming his adversaries and opponents, that he means business. he's in charge of russia and this is a mafia state that he will continue to hold onto his power as long as he can. and he will do incredible horrible things to his opponents to ensure that he remains in power. what do you think of the future of the wagner? great. now that progression and the top leadership has been eliminated, have gone from is the retina group has helped russia makes millions of dollars with its involvement in the middle east and africa through diamonds and gold mining, etc. but they also ran into back in june. and i think that it's not outside the realm of possibility that, that back in a group they ceased to exist. and when the cool began president boynton called these russians involved as terrorist and people who had to be dealt with. and now some and some of the soldiers are being pressured to sign contracts with the

russian military. so it's not, it's not inconceivable that not in a group may not exist in the near future. and what happens, do you think to those fighters who refused to join the, the russian defense? i think it's certainly possible they would be imprisoned, or similar events would occur where they will be killed or exiled or sent to other regions to continue russia as well. it rush, it puts in the game i'll call who is speaking to before he is convinced he's pushing the line that it was ukraine who kills for goes and what do you think of that argument? well, i think that's nothing more than measuring propaganda. and the russian narrative to try to blame the ukrainians for russia's forced war that was unnecessary, and no legal. and it's russia trying to put the blame on other actors when everyone knows that it was the russians who did this. and do you think that the russian

minute treat is still divided? derek? be divided now, officer, this events i think that the military as well as put in his opponents are reconsidering and how they will interact with the russian leader in the future . and because they have seen that this is not the 1st political opponent, but which it has either killed or tried to imprison or poison. so they will have to continue doing what they can to ensure that they are not on the same fate that are going in with getting face. okay, not candidates. k, thanks very much. taking the time to join us that from the atlantic council. thank you for having me. with the messen regroup is also develop strong ties with the syrian government, as, as russia intervened in the syrian war. but progressions failed, rebellion in june has shifted influences and how the reports. in october, 2015, russia joined the war in syria is 1st military intervention in the middle east and

decade. it change the balance of power in favor of president bashar and i said like russian airpower didn't do it alone with disabilities. and a new president vladimir putin didn't want his military to be embroiled in the conflict in came wagner. a private military group contracted to do the fighting. it helped secure and for the russian interests and saved the syrian government from collapse relative to to other countries. i think their role in, in syria has proven more pivot told because they were involved in direct clashes on the ground. so however, their role recently, at least, militarily has waned alongside the russian military. it helped president aside, maintain control of much of the country. but it's role expanded. it benefited economically, whether from revenues from oil and gas,

or phosphate mines. it took advantage of a failed state and recruited syrians to fight in for an operations. some were sent to the libyan battlefield. wagner is also believed to have used russian naval in air bases as a logistics hub for the global operations. there are those who believe the discourse between the wagner group and the russian military leadership began in syria because of the beginning due to the ambitions of bergman's head, goshen commanded, and the russian military will always consent. they always tried to prevent him from creating his own empire. they had many disputes on the battlefield road. yep. in the wake of wagner's attempted mutiny against the russian military leadership in june. the defense ministry was quick to act in syria to avoid any possible rebellion of russia managed to. uh, i would say, hold, oh the uh, may uh,

be brought this to us in, in, in, in, in syria. i'm talking about the fact that commanders, they took them to, to, to maintain bass. no, no news about their future over there. i mean, destiny. but on the account now i have what i know is that bag now is being run by the russian military directly. the syrian leadership which helped isolates, wagner, operatives on the ground, was quick to fall in line behind the kremlin center for the el. sure 0 issue. well that speak now to nicholas hawk. he joins us from call and set a goal. and that wagner had a huge presence across the african continental, it's been the reaction that precautions that as well for many countries in the region that have association with the value of group for goshen, not vladimir puts it was the face of the group. in fact,

he overshadowed with them. he's the point of contact just a few days ago. pagoda and had met with the molly military agent. the leadership assuring more russian fighters on the ground, also more military hardware to help them fight arm groups linked to al qaeda and i so, and that was also the case in the central african republic where the vascular group is very much active fighting off over 14 groups that are gonna be based present in sit down in booth and beach in a number of countries. and we saw that the, the, the, the presence of the value or group helps spread russian influence in the region. just recently, when there was a crew in new share, a neighboring country of malia and burkina, faso, people who are waiving russian flags. and that's thanks not to moscow, but thanks to the back in a group, it's seen as a viable alternative to western military powers. they have uh, the united nation says that it have a bad track record when it comes to human,

right, extra usual killing, rape and, and, and work crimes. but for governments in the region, they get the job done and that's why they were so successful. and that's why the address of let him are putting to mention the presence of the vacuum and precautions. work in africa sought to reassure those governments that have a big contracts with the wagner. and it's also, he also sought to reassure those $3000.00 wagner fighters or mercenaries that are active in this a health region. so it's very important for moscow. it seems to have business as usual, chip, rear. sure. those countries that have partnership with the group and we saw a precaution on video that was his last address on, on the social media network. telegram where we saw him in military fatigue carrying a gun, saying that he was there to free africans from attacks from arm group. so he was very much the face. but it seems though,

with this address that putting is taking over and that he will be the one the point of communication in which it also really important to remember. it's not just the gods and that died, but the military command and i've been embedded with the back the group and it's a very much top to bottom operation. so there's a lot of uncertainty for some of these countries that have partnership with the bank. absolutely. okay, and that com, thanks very much for talking to, is that from deca incentive goal that's kind of mount the amount of training, joins us from mr. on to in libya, another country on it where there is a large wagner presence. is it business as usual, that off to provision staff full? have you seen some sort of change already as well? i think for, for the goose main part right here in the world or to somebody for hops or eastern lives. yeah, i have to control bunch of these and look at and part of this out. i think she's been where it says

a promotion attempted to unity in june. so he's wanted some kind of assurances from, from ross of, so we saw on tuesday, i russian military delegation. i mean, we haven't seen this not be the best minister of criminal, general goodness that you go visited hoster. and they just released that the, you have this element just released that a statement today saying that they met the one with disruption delegation. so, you know, i wouldn't say having to say that a lot of people are lucky as to how those things that will impact the balance of power out here in the i'm the estimates of about 2000. why did the personnel and they control vast areas of one year basis a some, some expert will say, tons of military hospitals across a central and southern yeah. oh for people here in western look at, i think

a lot of people are more happy about community stuff. i mean, they see, they see uh for goes in as, as someone who, wow, houser, i guess, i guess their democratic hopes spinning goals, the bylaws, as since they came out in a revolution in 2011 and toppled long time. the one that be they see after has just another strong man trying to take over the country and russian and russia and especially the buyer who were helping to do that a. so i guess next you is how the process last a partner, a trusted partner who help to a uh, expands as our base. whereas in washing the people are looking at this as, as. busy maybe uh, you know, they maybe, uh, this will impact process employees and they can move towards the democratic country . okay. kind of joining us that from libby of science,

very much malik. and just to remind view is that we have been following is breaking news of the confirmation of the death of the wagner boss if any provision 24 hours ago. just in the last couple of hours, we've had the official confirmation from vladimir putin of the death of the head of the wagner chief. we're going to be following this news, which heading to it. um, throughout the outlet is that comes 1st of all the for the moment now we're just going to go to some of the news. some of the big news that is happening today on the islands. there are the of the top story that we're following is that donald trump will be surrendering in the coming hours in georgia. and this will be his full criminal indictment since april. the form of us present charged with the racketeering and conspiracy to of the time the 2020 election results in the state. 9 of his 18 co defendants have already surrendered to prosecute his including his

advisor, and the full amount of new york city, juliani wilson, jordan outside, fulton county jail in atlanta. that's where someone will be turning himself in to get to what will happen. and it's a very quick process and he'll get fingerprinted. he'll have his mug shot taken. he's already to reach the are $200000.00 sale agreement. as you can see, there are some very passionate people here who have gathered to i hope they can see the former president come in to the a range on these are charges or rather process the rain that won't happen before the week of september. 5th week after next. we don't know exactly when mr. trump, i'll be here at the fulton county jail. it's highly likely he won't even come in through the entrance behind me. there is another entrance with a heavy of security where people will be able to, well use him. okay. thanks very much and the full bring installation sent from

georgia. we will be, of course, following that story. a lot more in the coming out is now moving on to them both way, but pose, have officially close just in the pol, tall file of the 2 days of basing those singles extended for a 2nd day because of delays with violet papers on wednesday. now those papers didn't arrive until the end of the day in many areas, including the capital, right? present m as in mine guide, what is seeking a 2nd term for the position policies of accused as policies of suppressing sites and reading the contest? leaders of the brakes alliance of the 5 nations who invited another 6 countries to join next year. they origin, tina egypt, if you're, if you're around saudi arabia, as united of amaris thought can present. so around the pose a may fee announcement on the last day of the break summit in john is back. late as a result, india, china and south africa have been joined from notate by russia's president from

moscow. and china, his bond, impulsive whole safety products from japan, that soft to take it began is controversial. dumping of treated nuclear waste water into the ocean and it says the release into the civic ocean is selfish and irresponsible. definitely is government and the you and you feel what stuff say it might be dangerous to release suspense, cooling water over several decades as well. that is it for me laura kyle: but fully basketball will be here in just a moment with more of the days. use the costs were going to be revisiting that breaking news story that we've been covering for the past couple of hours ever since the russian president vladimir putin, especially confirmed the death of the wagner boston. if get any progression the

the demo reco breaking touches in turkey or the event, but in many places it's too warm with an average with suggest. um, the wind is still blowing quite strongly through his boss for us into what is still the dry part of known grease. however, there are blue splotchy showing up that is being coming from the system from further. it also shows i'd like to before we have the areas of recent, they've been on fire. that's good news. this breeze coming round isn't doing much to chase, attempting gather on carriers, still halted, 40 degrees, mountains, but on the one side it said the full, but it's iraq and to wait, where the real high temperatures are 49 to 50. once again, quite a breeze not blowing across the rock, picking up the sand, the dusting eastern and saturday. most enough of the breeze to cool things down in douglas to sticky at 45 degrees. and the fatty human one that, that the real dust has been kicked up to the western side. the river is also quite hot. no shaft in the sky. there is that one or 2 maybe in the mountains. and of

course, across drizzly positions delilah, which is typical of this time of year, spend the most of north africa. we now watch clumps a big shows moving through going slowly west with the latest one is fairly evident in the science of the north from nigeria, and of course, the tip yourself into the lower reaches of the river and larger property. very welcome, the

showcase based upon entry films from across the network on al jazeera the the notice of the news our on al jazeera um for the back people lives in doha, coming up in the next 60 minutes. vladimir protein breaks his silence in directly confirming the depth of 5 nickel chief. you have any for goshen. 24 hours after spring crash north of moscow. meanwhile, question.