mix traveling a challenge we follow to drive as soon as he grapples with repass his many books. and yet, cuz one of the few women to drive to remote villages risk in it all. i because i'm out of there the donald trump is expected to turn himself into jail in atlanta in the next hour. he's charged with conspiring to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. the us state of georgia, the i'm about to send this is obviously a lot for me to have also coming up with russians. president breaks the silence off to the death of the chief of the wagner. mostly if jennifer goshen is on board

a plane, the plan is to the grounds north of moscow open for expansion. the leaders of the bricks alliance in 56 new countries to join. the block on china says no to japanese . see through dr. toki begins release, increase in radioactive water, and then focusing on nuclear plants into the pacific ocean. the . so we're going to begin in the us, where informing us president donald trump is expected to surrender in atlanta, georgia. within the next hour. trump and his age of being charged with trying to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in the state. prosecutors of judge trump and $18.00 with bracket tutoring, and conspiracy. 11 of his 18 co defendants have already handled themselves in, including his advisor and former mayor of new york, rudy giuliani. to correspondence in atlanta covering the story, i'm going to speak to rosalind jordan at the fulton county jail. and the moment 1st

we're going to go to the island fisher, who's outside the courthouse island. there have been some legal moves in the last few hours. what's been going on the ball 10 days after the indictment was filed, 17 hours before the deadline for donald trump and himself, and he's just minutes away from landing here in georgia in the last couple of hours . there have been a number of developments at lee this morning. donald trump changed his legal representative. he's now waiting at the airport. he will accompany donald trump to philip and come to jail where he will be processed. he's also filed a motion saying that he wants the trial the late. that's because funny. well, as soon as the prosecutor here i, she asked the judge to have the trial on october the 23rd. so just 8 weeks away. that was after one of the defendants kenneth cheese brought asked if they did the court for a speedy trial while a judge has granted that, but only in cheese press case. donald trump is also filed, a motion says he wants to be sever from cheese, breast,

legal action. so that means he wont be going on trial on october. the 20 thought, as we know, he would like to delay this for as long as possible. in fact, in the case in washington, he's asked the judge there to delay the case to 2026. so donald trump will be touching down in just a few moments from there, it's just 20 a 20 minute drive to the jail. he won't be coming here to the courthouse, but you can bet the funny well as wherever she is and probably in her office at the moment she will be watching very closely. as a former president of the united states start to start to face and diamond for the 4th time in the last 4 months down. and just as you're talking to is there you're quite right who's moments away from touching down with watching the play and come in and out in the usual trump uh livery. he's coming down to the atlantis international airport, the huff, hartsville jackson, international airport. okay, let's talk about the defendants who find it themselves and they're happy to 11. and so far, i want to ask you about the ones who have not yet added themselves in because that

deadline is getting closer and closer. there's no that's right. and the clock is ticking, i'm gonna go daddy had from the prosecutors saying that if they don't hand themselves and then they'll be once issued for the rest just after mid day on friday. the reason we know this is mark meadows, who was of course donald trump's chief of staff. he actually went to court to postpone the idea was born his hand to himself and to the judge saying, but what a see had pending legal action to try and spare this at the federal court. he shouldn't be forced to turn himself. and while the judge said, that's not the case, we can still hear back on monday, but you'll have to turn yourself into the jail. and that's exactly what he did on thursday afternoon. took him about an hour to be processed. he wasn't least on bill . and these are, donald trump, will also be on bill is rich to deal with a local bill points company. you'll pay 10 percent of the to $200000.00. they will pay the rise again, some sort of security at. but you won't have to deal with all of that that so being

sorted, what he has to deal with now is getting it to the jail. i'm facing at the cameras as he does so. and thanks very much indeed, that's all and thanks for talking to us. and the courthouse and atlanta, georgia with georgia were just watching pictures of a donald trump playing in the trump delivery line, which is just landed id, hartsville jackson, jacksonville, airport, atlanta, international airport, the train, the plane is going to tack, see its way around to the main concourse, and there was a fleet of black s u, v. 's, which was waiting outside to take trump and his various members of his own to rush to fulton county jail. let's all until this is about 20 minutes drive away and that's where it was. lind, jordan is wasting far as he's due to turn up round about he estimates or he estimated about 7 started at rushman we, i can see from the shot that we've got there of you there are obviously people standing behind you. i've been gathered there. i know for some time and what can we

expect when donald trump turns up the well, in terms of the legal process, it should be pretty straightforward fingerprints. mugshot unless there's some other legal detail that that's a fantastic thursday, which is the date of his surrender. donald trump should not more than a 100 or so here at the boat or take anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes depending on whether he gets a police escort from the airport, which is self to the jail, which is on the western side of atlanta. that said, because of the way that the security situation is, we're not expecting him to actually speak to the people who have been gathered here all day, hoping to get a glimpse of him either to show their support or their disdain for donald trump.

but there are waiting to see that move, but because it is historic you have never had a former us president actually indicted on criminal charges in the united states was and thank you very much indeed. was when jordan upside fulton, county jail. obviously we're going to be going back to that was and as a tremble into raj makes his way towards there. but i want to bring in frank bowman . he's a former federal and state prosecutor is currently a professor emeritus at the university of missouri school of law. and he's joining us live from durango colorado, colorado. very good to have you with the so thank you very much indeed for the benefit of those of us. we're maybe coming to this for the 1st time. can you explain to us briefly? fi, many of these charges are coming under the the re co law. the racketeering law. well, rico is an acronym stands for racketeering, and it's almost done corrupt organizations. it's a statute that was 1st passed by the federal government in the 1970s. but

a fair number of states have passed their own versions of it. essentially what it does is to allow a prosecutor to bring in the same case someone wider or array of charges and events that will be true for an ordinary conspiracy. that's its primary advantage is disadvantage in the united states on prosecutors is that it can make your case unnecessarily complicated by on. uh, for sure. our correspondent was telling us that one of the changes that donald trump has just made to his legal team is bringing in stephen sato. he's said to be a very prominent adelanto lawyer with experience of dealing with ritual cases. does that give us an indication of just how concerned donald trump is? and if he is concerned, what part do you think he is most concerned about a well hunter and i'm going to try to analyze psycho analyze, mr. trump. that's the thing is there, and i think also it's very hard to tell what mr. trump is doing with respect to his

many lawyers and as many cases they come and go um, you know, like the seasons and why that's true for any particular lawyer is always the really hard to say yes, hard time keeping as learners because he often doesn't pay them, they often are at loggerheads with, with his views of how the case should be should be handled. so i can't really say why it is he's change more. there's a certain way he should be concerned about this case for a number of reasons. one of them is that it's a broad reaching look at his effort to overturn the election. and it brings in a whole variety of different defendants other than himself, which on the one hand could be quite complicated for the prosecutor. on the other hand, it offers the prosecutor, the opportunity to place pressure on the 18 of the defendants were facing substantial, present time to cooperate against. and there are several different elements of a uh, the, the indictment that is facing donald from the 13 different criminal charges,

not obviously we won't know the full details until the case comes to court. but given you a level of expertise, i'm sure you've had a look at, but least broadly at the the charges. is there anything specific that you think is most likely to cause donald trump, the great has a problems if you liked that timeframe with the greatest risk of being convicted. i think one thing we can say about the georgia indictment is that it uses a number of statutes which are specific to georgia retailers that are not uncommon . the statute is around all over the place. but georgia has a number of fairly narrow statues, having to do, for example, with making false statements to government officials, to affect government action that are simpler probably to charge, improve down the analogous statutes in, in, in the federal code. so, i think if i were mr. trump slaughtered,

i'd be concerned not so much really about the repo charges, but the variety of other georgia specific statues that may make this a simpler case to prove against mr. trump. with regard to the timing, although of all of this is really becoming a fundamental issue, isn't it? because there's a lot of negotiation is that our correspondents were telling us earlier over that the find these trials that should it should be broad. uh, it was interesting to hear that well, at least one of the cases has been allowed to go ahead and october. why do you think that there wasn't the necessitate or the need to bring that individual case forward to october? well that happened because kenneth cheese pro, one of the defendants, in the case a lawyer made a motion for speed trial under the georgia statute. now under georgia law. he doesn't, defended, makes a speedy trial motion. the case must be tried within a certain period of time. and this case has to be tried by the end of october. the interesting question here, which is raised by some of the earlier commentary,

is whether or not cheeseburger has motion for or a speedy trial will bring everyone else in the 19 defendant cavalcade. along to that same trial day, or whether it's possible under georgia law to sever out those other defendants, including mr. trump and let them have later trials. i'm not an expert on georgia severance law, so i really can't tell you the answer to that. and i want to ask a broader looking long term, forgive me, i'm actually just watching some of the shots that are coming in from us and the agency at the moment word that the plane that is carrying donald trump is not aligned to that. and as i mentioned before, it's sitting on the tarmac, the troop of s u, v. 's is waiting for donald trump. it is on to rush to come off. and of course, that's what we're looking to to see as well. but i wanted to ask you about something that is a repeated question, since these indictments were brought to the efforts by donald trump to have this moved to a federal court. and in the event that it does get moved to a federal court. what control if any, or influence, if any,

does that give him over that case? in the event that he becomes president of the united states? the 1st i think it's somewhat unlikely that he or the other defendants will succeed in moving this case to federal court. although it's a complex issue and it could happen, but even if it goes to federal court, one has to understand that it will still be prosecuted by fatty wells, prosecute by the state of georgia under georgia state law. it's a, it's a venue will be a federal court, and the judge will be a federal judge. my view is that if, even if mister from warner be re elected on, although he would then gain some degree of control over the federal prosecutorial apparatus, the department of justice, he gains no control over either the federal judiciary or georgia state prosecutor. so this case is going to go ahead anyway, i told him that he may prefer to have it in a, in a federal court. partly because that would change the jury pool. right now it's,

it's valued in, in the, the city of atlanta which is very heavily democratic, also very heavily african american of the, the federal district into which you'd like to move. it includes atlanta but also includes a bunch of people in north georgia who are going to be more favorable to him politically. and with regards to the defense, again, we won't go the final details until the case comes to court. but what, in your estimation, what do you think is going to be the thrust of the defense in this hard to say, but i think we can rely on at least one point. and that is that donald trump is going to claim that he thought the election was stolen. and therefore, everything he did in georgia and elsewhere was in response to his belief that the election was still on the problem with that, of course, as it's laid out in both the federal indictment and the state, one is that, you know, he was told over and over and over again by many, many, many people,

almost all of them republicans, and in many cases, his own federal appointees in high positions and the justice department and elsewhere. no, you're wrong mister president. you'll last find bowman. we appreciate you being with us and knowledge is here. i'm sure. over the coming months we're going to be talking to you again and getting the benefit of your expertise for not. thank you very much. indeed for being with us on knowledge, a 0. we've just seen pictures of donald trump leaving the the trump airlines playing. i'm heading down the steps on his own. and i'm making his way into one of those black su fees that has been sitting by on the tarmac, by the plane waiting for mr. trump. and is on charge. this is a short while ago that when he, as i say, defended those steps wearing his as usual red tie and dark suit. allan, i wonder, i wouldn't want to go back to the island fisher, who's outside the court room for a forest. allen, it's,

this is the point of which things start to really get interesting, isn't it? because there's a lot of, i've been a lot of speculation about how this trial is going to go on how, what both sides are going to be saying. but what we're going to be seeing in the next few hours or so is just the procedural elements of this, of a former us president being indicted, handing himself in to court officials getting as much mug shot taken like any other defendant the the monks show thing is incredibly important because it's never happened before. this is the 1st time a former president who has been charged with a criminal offense. and remember, the trump is the 1st one that has happened to will have his mug shot taken. this will become an iconic image. if you think about famous americans, you have seen in the, in those pictures in the past, you think of franks and that's what you think of out to pulling a note to that list. you're going to add donald j. trump. he's not getting into his

car. there's a large motor kid which will take him from the air field to fill you county jail. there are 10 agencies who are involved in transporting the former president, not least the secret service agents who are with them all the time. and they're responsible for his personal protection. however, when they get to the deal, essentially what they do is say we have delivered them to you. he is not yours to process. you have to protect him and they will take over that responsibility when that whole process is done, but it will less somewhere in the region or we think between stuck to minutes to an hour. if you take the average of the likes of mark meadows, his former chief of staff and rudy giuliani, one of his closest advisors in the days after the election, it took them around an hour inside the jail. a lot of the red tape has been removed because of course donald trump has arranged his bill. it's $200000.00 that has all been set so he will appear, it will go through the process at the jail. he will then get back in the car and

he'll head back. now, we are told that he is going to give an interview to a right wing cable channel. it's due to take place at 9 o'clock that might all be not back slightly. we'll know, working on former president time or presidential time, however you want to describe it, which never seems to go exactly on chat, joe. but donald trump has no got a 15 to 20 minute drive. it's probably going to be a little easier to negotiate. a lot says traffic at this time when you have a police escort, so it could be just 15 minutes before he's at the jail, but you see that most okay, just leaving the field now. i'm heading for that short drive. the 15 minute drive to fulton county jail where history will be made in the next half hour. that is certainly a much bigger motorcade than we have seen in previous indictments. and there are several black s evenings there. there's, there are writers with police as well with the police protection as you were talking about. clearly security is significant and that's all i do want to ask you

about something that's been, there's been a lot of speculation about. and then i don't know if you're getting any updates on it, when it comes to the trial itself. there's been a lot of debate about whether or not there should be cameras that lives in the cords. and uh, that if i understand correctly, that's something that donald trump is less keen on because that allows him to control the message. but there is pressure to have cameras there. do we have any idea about whether or not these proceedings are going to be televised? as well, remember donald trump is facing for trials in the next several months. a 2 of them are in federal court. 2 of them are in state court in federal court, in the united states that are new cameras allowed in the state court. it's up to the judge to decide whether or not he wants to let cameras in bought because of donald trump because of his position because of the charges against them. there is a growing movement to suggest that uh,

just the chief justice of the united states should say, we are going to unload cameras into the federal court so that people can actually see at the trial of donald trump, or should i say the trials of donald trump, because of course it's important that not only is justice done, it's got to be seen to be done. and many people believe that if the soul of the case against donald trump lead out in pretty stop terms, as we've seen in the indictments and not everyone will read the indictments, then they might understand why the case is being brought against donald trump. though you could understand why the trump campaign is keen on that idea, but it may well be i to of their hands, particularly in the state courts. because again, it's up to the judge at the defense can certainly make a case to say, we don't want cameras in here because of x, y and zed and meet their legal arguments. but ultimately, if the judge is in charge of the court room, he will make the decision. it could of course, be appealed, but it's something likely to go beyond the state court of appeal is not something

that say for example, the supreme court would take on. and thank you very much indeed for now. i was on an fisher roadside they, i mean, for house in atlanta, georgia. we're going to go to boston. jordan, who's outside fulton county jail in atlanta. that's where donald trump is due to turn himself. and we're watching pictures roseland, all the convoy making its way up the freeway there towards the court house as good as we were talking about on the other up in the crowds of people behind you, you'll be gathering their for several hours. is there any sense of anticipation as the convoy gets closer there is a growing sensitive piston and a growing sense of excitement spray shot anger. jubilation is really depends on where you fall on the political spectrum. i mean, it's really hard for me to show you the entrance, the main entrance to the jail, because we have lots of people here. hundreds of people here outside the main

entrance to the fulton county jail. are hoping that they will get a glimpse of the former president donald trump as surrenders as part of this 41 count election conspiracy. hey, now it's not expected. as we heard alan's issue, just say that he's going to spend a lot of time here. but the fact that the former president is actually coming to a county jail, to surrender, to make good on his vault, which was negotiated earlier this week at to be fingerprinted. and you have his mug shot taken really is that 1st step in the criminal justice process, a process which the local policy, peter and the local sheriff, have both said they intend to see completed because no one is above the wall. of course, there are among the hundreds of people who are here, not just the media, but many people who support donald trump, who believe that this is the ultimate miscarriage of justice. it's been

a very long and hot j here in atlanta, was one of the premier studies of the us of south east. and we did see some tensions flare about a couple of hours ago. but there is heavy security here. there's already an, an air bus stop, no air traffic in this general area for the next hour or so. that is for the former president security. it's not something that is unusual, as some people might so suspect. and this is also a situation where people are wondering, are we going to hear donald trump given the security situation? people were not screened by secret service to be out here. it's probably highly unlikely that the secret service would allow a former president to be among the general public without knowing in and among the general public. so if there is a comment, perhaps it happens at the airport. perhaps he goes into the jail through

a deer for the entrance. there are several entrances to the fulton county jail, but it does sort of brings the facts. that's the main reason why use here is to take off and all important fox in the criminal justice process. every criminal, defend it, everywhere in the united states, has to go through this process in some form or fashion. i do want to ask you about the, the speed of which he's going to go through this process. well, was because of, i understand it correctly, that they, they, that process normally or for our usual a normal defendants, or we say, can take a significant amount of time. and yet donald trump's, the volume this time to correctly is going to be much quicker. why is that? what's the difference? well the main difference is that usually when a criminal defendant is bought it before, a magistrate judge at the beginning of a criminal law constitution, usually that person has to come in with the lawyer. they have to negotiate with the

constitution and with the judge or what is an acceptable amount of sale in order for that person to be released until the start of trial. that has already been taken care of. in this case, on monday is when the previous legal team for donald trump reach an agreement with the prosecutor's office on an acceptable amount of fail $200000.00. so when you're not having to negotiate, go back and forth, have the judge who's on duty at the jail be involved in that process. it's basically come in and just do the last 2 parts of that processing, which is the most shock, which is the fingerprinting that is for local county records. even though people should know that as the former president of the united states, his fingerprints are already on file with the federal government case. what the word is, we've just passed this as part of their population of criminal cases. so if i were

to be a very quick process, he's already done the hard part, probably to go skating the bone because i want to bring. but bring us back briefly to what you were talking about before about the tensions that had been you said had been growing on the side. the jail is the con, volume mix is where there. and you said that it had been a couple of slayer ups. is there one of the a security presence where you are in the past, we've seen a very heavy security presence, particularly when he was a, when would be the case that was being held in new york. but how is it playing out where you are now? i think we need to make it really plain that this is not a city lofts down the city of atlanta, which is the capital of the state of georgia, is not in the state of lock down now where the county jail sits happens to be on a plot of land with some other governments of facilities for fulton county. so it's easier for the fulton county sheriff's department with assistance from the atlanta

police department to shut down several streets surrounding this complex to restrict the hick, your access to only let people walk in and out added to basically make certain that people aren't getting into any sort of big route. again, you have to factor in the fact that it is far out here and people's tempers typically go off with that when it gets hot anyway. but that said, there are plenty of sheriff's, deputies and police officers. so welding the perimeters, driving up and down, and their cruisers are walking up and down information, keeping an eye on the situation. for the most part, what we've seen today are people with very strong opinion, but talking to each other, not getting into the kinds of roles that you might see in some other places. and that said, given the heavy police presence, it feels very safe out here. and that is the ultimate thing. they want to make

certain that everything is sick so that the legal process can be conducted as it needs to be conducted. in one more point, i should note that the jail is open 24 hours a day. this is not the only person coming to this jail to was to render on criminal charges. there are other people who have gone in. there are other people who have been released today. that's been the case all week. that was the case last week when the indictments 1st came down. that's going to be the case tomorrow. after all of this, you know, horrible. lou has wrapped up. this is a working criminal justice facility. people are still being dealt with through the criminal justice process. and so it is in fulton, counties interests to make certain that everyone is getting in and getting through the system and getting their day in court as it were without any undue interference . rosalyn for not. thank you very much and you have as far as lin jordan outside, fulton, county jail were seeing pictures of donald trump's motorcade making its way towards

the jail where he is going to surrender to face charges. i'm trying to overturn his 2020 presidential election laws in the states about maybe 15 minutes ago. his plane landed at uh, atlanta international airport. and uh, he was matched by that large convoy of black s u. v is on the tarmac officer, he walked down the steps of his brandon's aircraft. they're wearing his characteristic a long red tie. he was war done on his own, as you can see, to be greeted by security, a man at the bottom, and then immediately walked straight into the black s u v. where in test of pacing the journey takes from the airport about 30 minutes so. so he's probably been driving no far, i'm guessing maybe 10 minutes, 10 to 15 minutes. so it's possibly 10 to 15 minutes away from the fulton county jail. and that is where the former president is going to be fingerprinted and have

his mug shot taken is going to return at a later date to into play in court. has failed, has been set at $200000.00 us dollars the for the on to some other news. russian president vladimir approved in spoken out about the death of guinea to goes in nearly 24 hours. the options wagner chiefs plane crashed north of moscow brooding, referred to him as that. talented businessman nauseous, aviation agency says precaution was in a private jets that crashed on wednesday. it comes 2 months after the former ally of the russian president let us short lived mutiny against military leaders in the capital of dosage. a body of reports from moscow. this is the crash sites, about 250 kilometers north of moscow. it's here, we're russia's aviation agency says the private jet, caring of gainey per goshen. crash late on wednesday evening. the head of the

wagner private military company was one of the 10 people killed a man close to the president of fact, vladimir putin. no.