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is reacted to the shooting of 3 black people in florida by saying that white supremacy was the place in the united states. wrong christopher told me to kill 2 black men and a black woman in a still on site today. police in jacksonville are investigating their killings as a racially motivated, hate crime. the manifesto is, is quite frankly, the diary of a madman. he was, he was, i mean, he was just completely irrational. but was the rational was the rational thoughts. he knew what he was doing, he had 100 percent. he was one or percent lucid. he knew it was doing. and again, it's a disappointing to anyone would go to these links to hurt someone else under the supporters of nature. as qu, leaders have value outside the french embassy and um, the base and the capital in the army. they won't find soldiers on the bottom of that to leave the fences, funding school goals and wearing the a bio the full link. so boston will buy most of them with the education minister
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said new guidelines will be issued before classes resume after the summer holidays next week. the governing holiday party and zimbabwe is denying allegations of widespread vote drinking in the general election last week. and some of the guidelines has been given a 2nd time as president, but the main opposition is planning to challenge the results. so dollars i'll be cheap times to visit egypt in his 1st born trip since fighting the gun in april and arrived. visits from i'll be headquarters and call 2 of the other behind that military lead isn't posted on, on sunday, is during congress adults with the gyptian president of the a c. c. out of coal. so you can follow all of a stories on the website that out. is there a dot com about the boonies in half? now on next, pick up on is there a sta, tuition change? there is no channel. i'm covering the world news like we do. the scale of this camp is like nothing you've ever asked us to help. but we want to know how these things
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affect people. we revisit please stay, even when they're no international headlines. houses are really invest in that, and that's a privilege. as a journalist, a friend is a country with a long history of activism for women's rights organization. starts with the suffragette, the anti fascist leasing. people have success pretty full for new right and against injustice across the aged. but the struggle social justice is fall from eva in the 6 biggest economy in the world. the gap between rich and poor is stock, and increasing. welcome to generation change, a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that make life around the world. my name is amount of money and on the journey space here in london, this episode we need to young activate who, what's happening the re,
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quote is a violent from on just move to an education system to pull the t policing and racial inequality. who in 2010, conservative like government came into power and implemented a policy of a stereo t o u for the next decade. billions of pounds of costs in public spending in london use violence and noise. crime is increased at sienna, catch plains, austerity the so right now we're in canada and you basically grew up around here, right?
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a lot of people near this area for being a tourist destination for the market, but this is a place where you've kind of decided that you want to get involved in buy optimism . i'm watching in the community. why is that? i think it's have, if you look at the minutes, well, the power, the big company, but we don't equal any share the fruits of what's happening. and i say in particular, as a, as a passive, you see all these issues around you provided. and you decide if it's not meaning he's going to be involved, then he will be the . so when he was 15 years old, he decided to join the new parliament of great britain. and you gave a reading, passion, speech about me, finance. and we use some of what winston to, to leave for merchant services. nita against the conservative policies as my time
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teams more lives within our country. a never so much been lost by so many because of the indecision of. so for you, what we think you, when you decided to do that, it's about the idea that you can use people's words against the conservative party . have the set of ideals about the way they want to run with it. but they don't for assume the heat on kind of rest here. it's about 11 and not the country is not mess up by any kind of real investment. this little taping over the course of a decade or was thursday which they froze in talking me under the bus the what does a fair and. busy 8 homo just country look like i think is about fundamentals investing in for me. right now we have a system in which communities essentially left brain problems and they face a we have to think about building and society in which everyone can have
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a bass start in life, which will give in that an equal opportunity. if there were some people that said, okay, that's on the list, it feel young, you don't understand the way the world. what. what would you say? it's very stable. i say that we just need to reframe, i'll kind of narrative around this to the current perspective that we study. se fun is kind of through the lens and the path when we actually look at as to that the moments where regular people have bonded together and can achieve below. the government could have stopped many accounts. so the states have funding since 2010 up to 1000 youth centers have been shut down. so many young people life is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous. to me more like helps those who had been impacted by buttons
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the this is the grandpa state needs grow up there. right. this is barbara. could you just tell me a little bit about what was going not pay that 1st made you want to be black in your community? part of it is the issues that we experienced here from such a young age, living in poverty, c, as in justice, experiencing injustice. i'm being exposed to such extreme violence. and when i was, i need to steve my next door neighbor, my childhood friend mazda, and he was on killed a month before his 18th birthday. i'm so yeah, that was destiny of customers for me to one to one on the found housing side. i couldn't even have turned in our society about to work with in my community to support people who are experiencing things. i know people should, i should be a vast experience, especially children of
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friends does. could you just explain to me a little bit about the services that you provide? the young people for from is on a mission to empower young people in communities to fight for just this piece on freedom. and we support young people who have experienced violence to create change in their own lives, in our community and society. and so it's about community empowerment. it's about obligating young people to be able to fries not just survive. you've also got a background in or you can create a know a degree. how much do you feel that that has impacted your work in that community and awareness of the situations that people come off again? when i went to university and i was studying all. and that's when i have fast realized how detached the legal system with a start the of the legal system is from the reality. i had an experience where in
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one lecture, when we were learning about families not fighting for justice for their loved ones by being and costs are equal things that they haven't done. what we're talking about is directly affecting my community and the future lawyers tossing around really couldn't care about it or we lost, i wouldn't, nothing to do to our system from the inside. don't get me wrong. i respect people that do that. we have some amazing noise that we work with and i think we do need those people. i just didn't want to be one of them before i could do me from the outside. the work you do or pc is very kind of emotional, is personal. what kind of tow has it taken on you being engaged in that day to day? this work, comforting and all joy and fulfillment. but i can't take away from the fact that it's really hard to bear witness to people's pain or, and 14 young people, process based experiences. i feel proud that they didn't have to do that. and then
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about we're experiencing those things. i'm as a community connectivity, we're experiencing to careful and in that sense, as long as that injustice and what of this payment full amount that's happening, there's no way to not be impacted. so the total would take from me is the totaled i take from everybody. in 2012, as part of an effort to reduce klein, the government commission to study that looked into the background of prison is it found that 63 percent of the inmate? so they had been eva temporarily permanently excluded from school. the link between abide education and future incarceration is so distinct that it is known as the school to prison pipeline. to meet the project on the full front project,
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work specifically with young people that have been excluded. how important do you think it is to engage with young people who have been going to different schools? when you marginalize on people from education has passed time, they will experience exclusion from society. and i think that has a knock on effect and how they perceive themselves and how they perceive the world and how that will be afraid, well, for and on from that many schools, very disciplinarian and punitive, and same young people up for imprisonment set and young people because outside of just school exclusions, which catalog and attention, i think there's a whole spectrum that's even happening in the schools before people. i'm excluded cabinet me under the new legislation that they are trying to introduce them to police cause crime sentencing bill. they run p not secure schools that are supposedly schools web security rather than presidents with education. that is not
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even a school. it's because of the pipeline anymore. we just skip the pipeline. i went straight to the prism and it's not just about staying in school is also about what you 9 and what's in the curriculum. and i think even really focused on this and you know, specific needs. so it's about white washing of the curriculum. how do you think that links to the program the young people can make it seem like a fundamental part of education? is he in study any topic from a sound perspective? and i think currently we have a very, you're essentially perspective with clues these payments on fundamental role, these kinds of paid in things like empire colonialism and slavery. and if we kind of look on narrative around the past, this idea of the, essentially, these things were ended by a kind of mo, revelation of mo, development in the u. k. on a cost you up in a cost, they kind of less than weld. but when we actually look at the, the haitian of the nation as an example of it, of a historical event, which is the only of a successful revolution in which a wall is most profitable. calling in haiti essentially over 2 and in savory,
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not pay the pivotal role in shifting the tide towards evolution. but if you look at the way the economy presented in the curriculum is essentially around this idea of moral development and the k. i think that has an impact on the way that we perceive social change, the date, because the kind of lens that we study in the past and school undermines the importance in terms of the own tongue, historical narrative, that movements are paid. and that means that we, on the emphasize the role that we can pay as movements to date and time. you'll coming at this a few years further down the line is obviously graduated and, and been 3 days vacation system. looking back. was there anything that you think was missing in the education system? i think for me, history was a subject. so i was very passionate about. i really enjoyed the civil rights movement in the miracles. one of my favorite subjects at the time leaving school i so, and i knew nothing about the movement in this country. i'm learning everything that's
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happening in america. the, i have no idea about one of the black liberation organizing that was happening in this country. i'm way before i was born, i'm gonna continue to happen way also. i type i so why it wasn't like being full about my own history in this country is something that i can connect with and relate to. and that's gonna build my understanding of the world. i'm living name of the society i'm living in. that's something that i really would have value and they gave me wrong. i think international some authority is really important. so i'm glad i got that understanding of what was happening abroad, but it shouldn't have come at the expense of learning anything about what was happening in this country. in the year ending march 2020. there were around 46000 recorded offences involving and nice and in london, the metropolitan police is born that 2021 is on track to being the last year of
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teenage kennings in more than a decade. as a response, the routing conservative party has called for the police to be given quite to powers while many john list and the british media is a gun label without factoring in the all the reasons that lead to this slide and tell me you've spoken about the importance of the distinction between the time don, coach, i need 5 minutes. why do you think it's time for that? that distinction is understood, developing an understanding of how particular labels are used to 5 of mountain lies, and ostracized particular groups. the what garden in this country has become synonymous with black youth, a white one with us. that is a question of why, what really is a guy. i mean, when you look at the legal definition, football hooligans, they could be a guided by the legal definition of various groups of people that could fit the destination of the gun. but the web guy has never used to naples them. and there's
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various research and studies, for example, one by called is university. that shows that across a section of the media that they studied. 62 percent of the time when a label was being used to describe the black e black men and black boys in particular, it was the guy label. and i think is really the store in the root cause is of the issues of violence, nothing. and on, do you have yeah, yeah, i agree. you have to think about the fundamental drivers and of some of which is basically like social, economic and inequality. and how that is the cause, advise that young black man up to take, he presented as being like a model. and i think that connects to the stereotype. and we just need to essentially read those who in power of the responsibility do they have been creating the social conditions for this file? because it's not like, like the economic inequality. they exist in our communities because of the stubs, the d, funding of, of education, the lack of inclusive, correct him. he's
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a little decision being made by people impala. and so the use of stereotypes and this perceptions as a way of attention distancing themselves from how their policies have caused the social conditions and drive this violence. the gang label to me that as an example of how upset and labels certain approaches all established to deny people that route to access the resources and support that they require to to. so many young people die themselves. how, you know, perpetuate violence against all the young people themselves have also been victims multiple times for p, victimization, and says, is the cycle of victimization, not heating, victimization, not having. got to be fat. if there isn't a y, like can protect you, if there's no one that can prevent that harmless, stopped at home or support you. also, you've experienced tom. why wouldn't young people take them as into their own hands? and that's something that doesn't get enough attention to something that i've has a lot was reporting on on the fine is,
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is that the young men feel unsafe and they don't feel like there is anybody that's going to come and help them. they don't feel like they trust the police. right. i mean, could you think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u. k? i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why to use safety? because a way that a lot of politicians talk about is like next slide mysteries with as many police offices and outside safety for who. because actually, if we look at those in our communities who are risk of having an active violence committed against the nissan, not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims of then looking at them in a very that time lens of suspicion of all you about to commit crimes that so is that the way that the police interacting with people is not from a position of necessarily trying to look out for them? it's often from a perspective of kind of suspicion and i think blinks about something that's really important to say is talking about. we want to move away from the punitive system
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doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just wanna make that fit, cuz it's really important to actually know that the system we have there is no incentive for accountability. we have an adversarial court system where because of was at stake i, there's no incentive for me to say i did this. i hum this pass and i'm and i want to make amends. i one of the pads at home. why would anybody i know just talking about extreme cases where people have been killed. i'm talking about right the way down to more i'm trivial matters, but i dealt with 3 the quotes, there is no incentive. so actually the society that we have from memorial point of view is reading the interested entries, accountability, see responsibilities? one of the things i think isn't for us to invest is a whole me content just debate around at drill music and you know that there was an argument that plan rises finance and that it perpetuates fine and um,
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but i wanted to hear what you guys think about your music, specifically. this is an h o debate in relation to trying to regulate suppressed on sense a block awful black music. well, you have to understand this about for maybe the 1st time in communities that have been economically completely marginalized. abandoned here now comes over a pos way for some means of material success for young people that have been excluded from other forms of income generation. so people's material needs are not being met. i'm had comes a way that people can come do that. and the chief, i think what do you think about this? i think the kind of jo music, 2 parts of the right wing in our society because he went in to him by issues of violence as an all the one of those highly destructions by which they can kind of distance themselves from the direct role in creating the conditions in which violence happens, because where have you ever seen the argument that any of the form is on the uh,
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the husband lives i punk what drives people to violent. i guess if it was a new cap or kind of map out was the thing was driving by itself society. and this assertion inequality is a school exclusion that's only all the issues. but how is it new rigs in a song, the supposing you're going to be driving the devices? it just doesn't make sense. do you know? they know that there is an argument, right? that what you're talking about punk, or if you're talking about these on the forms of with as a bar, the music, right? the difference is that with some drove music has been specific references to real live cases of mode is of happened. people are, you know, basically using a song to say, we killed this past and this is how we did it. and that's different to punk music. i think this day as me, somebody, somebody said about that. but there's also, like we just have to look and the fact that these young people is next of a phonetic of that lived experience. but we need to ask ourselves, how as a society, always creating a situation in which these kind of news happening,
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what does it reflect about us? and the way that our society is being rides, obviously points out there's a phone rings or problems that we need to tackle. there is a lot of focus on the violence in the lyrics of the songs. but if you this, and so it is like they all students, you know, don't think mainstream people are speaking. there are a lot lyrics that talk about the mental health effects that they snipped. experiences had and people and for some reason those things don't really seem to come through. yeah. i don't think if, if it's the narrative enough to come to one of my favorite songs of dave, it's actually cold. panic attack on it from like his fast a t p and i just fell nearest by reading this. and i think there's a lot of music that is reading, documenting what young people are experiencing, the kind of life that they have to live, how they have to navigate their own safety, their own pass, and had that rights. i'm to dignity and respect. i'm the told about takes mentally i'm it just was perfectly and calculated for me in, in that song that, that's of
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a song by example as well. i think if people are so concerned about drew, they should be horrified about people having those lift experience. i've actually, i'm said, why are we not more interested in that in 2017, a fire broke out in greenville, tyler, a residential building that provided social housing in london. 72 people lost their lives a late too much that the fire spread so rapidly because greenfield exterior insulation is cutting with highly flammable. and that when the building was renovated the year before to improve its external appearance management to use the flammable cuttings. because it was cheap, we didn't have this conversation without mentioning glenn, so it's become a massive symbol of social inequality and injustice in the u. k. what do you feel
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like it represents the old generation? what happened at greenville? atalla sums up everything that's wrong with the way the society currently is. if you look at the way that there was systemic racism in terms of who actually died, most of the people were black and brown. if we look at the fact that this would have happened in a richer community, if we look at the fact that people have been repeatedly warned about the, the danger of this building and the fact that none of the people who are involved and what happening, where from time to face. and it just shows what is so fundamentally wrong with us side to the west of massaging young people for non violent drug possession and putting them in prison. but you can get away with having 2 people losing their lives in a fire. what does that tell us about the way the society is one? i feel hot burton, like most people about what happened. i gram file and i think for me it symbolizes the neglect the abandonment. and that's something that resonates with me
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a lot because i come from a community i'm my state again neglected, abandoned, and left to roll under terry a to me when folks speak to that because it's more important for this, i sort of a blog to look pretty for that of a wealthy people that live near it, then it is for people to have the right to be safe in their own home. it's really interesting speech, basically at the same time because there were lots of either lots of what you'll say. but tell me you said to me the other day that no one's coming to save us. we're gonna have to do this for ourselves. say your position slightly outside the system and you're thinking of possibly pursuing a career and politics, right. and trying to effect change from inside the system. why do you still have like s face in the system and also owns this things we've spoken about. if we look, i don't know the way that log issues and politics and talked about now it's people outside the system who shape the way that politics interact with society. because
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they kind of, if we look at like an racial justice, the ideas around transformative justice, these ideas that politicians are putting forward these ideas, that community activities and all the people putting forward. and this is not necessary that we can. so when you need the change, but it's how can that be? and these people who are within the system who are receptive to these different visions of society. and i think what i want to see in politics is a kind of generational shift which my generation can try. we design and we shape the system. because just as it was set of people made the system this way. so can that be, i think it's the people who can probably make it work for the vast majority of people in this country, following them from that point in time in the back of what you said to me and how do you feel looking at the system more generally, i respect a sounds decision if he wants to go with it and i feel that we need to move towards a political system where we have people that represent task people of the people of
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the community from the community for the community. and unfortunately, but we look file politicians vows just not the case. so if we can have young people, like i say, i'm feeling the vacant transform the system to be where we can actually have that representation. then i think that is, you know, a wife while i'm mission to, to have pass and me. i wouldn't want to do that myself. i want to empower people on the ground. and i think that the 2 can work hand in hand, but that's my focus. when i look back on my life, i want to say this is how i invested my energy because we have limited energy. we have limited time results. and so that's my decision of how i wanted to use my own time and results to try and create impacts and create a as well as inside watching these conversations, which is positive, you know, and at this time is that something i think a lot of people are searching for so thank you so much for coming and speaking to generation change and i look forward to seeing like you're going to do in the future.
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