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a paid on t v to say they control the country and it comes just days off to a controversial election. they've announced the cancellation of sundays result, which gave precedence i live on go a 3rd time and office when soldiers who seized power, se, pressing bone goes now on the house arrest. dozens of them came out to celebrate in the capital. naperville. with deposed president released this video message from edinburgh. i'm the president of government and i'm to send the message to all the friends that we have all the work to tell them to make noise, to make noise. for the people here often races me and montgomery. my saw you somewhere my what is he another place and i the residence, right out of the residence?
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nothing. nothing is happening. i don't know what's, what's going on. so i'm calling you to make noise. to make noise. to make noise, lee. i'm, i'm thinking, you know, crane as low as what appears to be the biggest wave of that strikes into russia since the sounds of the war targets includes the applewood wire reports of damaged imagery. aircraft with disputed russia hit back with strikes on your credit and capital keys. and har could a dolly, as we can, does it by says the us state of florida and hudson to georgia, where the experts expected to be a category for storm. and an unprecedented event has been downgraded to a category one. still packing a punch with wind speeds of a 150 kilometers an hour causing structural damage and storm searches. those are your headlines. plenty more to be found on our website onto there. dot com generation change is up next.
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the a friend is a country with a long history of activism for women is wide open ice age and starts with a suffragette to add to fashion sleep and people have success pretty full for new right and against injustice across the aged. but the struggle of social justice is false, somebody that in the 6 biggest economy in the world,
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the gap between rich and poor is stock, and increasing. welcome to generation change a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that make life around the left. my name is amount of money and on the journey space here in london, this episode we need to young activities who, what's happening the route quote, is a violent from on just move to an education system to pull the teeth policing and racial inequality. who in 2010, a conservative lead government came into power and implemented a policy of a stereo t o u for the next decade. billions of pounds of costs and public spending in london use violence and knife. crime is increased to you in a catch blames austerity the
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so right now we're in canada and you basically grew up around here, right? yeah. a lot of people near this area for being a tourist destination for the market, but this is a place where you've kind of decided that you want to get involved in buy optimism . i'm watching in the community. why is that? i think it's if you look at the mens well, the power the big company, but we don't equal any share the fruits of what's happening. and i say, particularly as a young passive, you see all these issues of youth violence and you decide if it's not mean he's going to be involved, then he will be the
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so when he was 15 years old, he decided to join the new parliament of great britain and you gave a reading passion, speech about me finance and use some of was winston to to leave too much conservative. lita against the conservative policies as lifetime teams, more lives within our country. a never so much been lost by so many because of the indecision also for you. what we think when you decided to do that is about the idea that you can use these words against the conservative party . have these set of ideals about the way they want to run with it, but they don't for assume is to hit on kind of the rest of it's about leveling off the country is not mess up by any kind of real investment. this little taping over the cracks of a decade, almost everything which the entire communities under the bought
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the what does a fair and. busy eat cool, more just country look like i think is about fundamentals investing in for me. right now we have a system in which community is essentially left to brain problems and they face are low. but we have to think about building a society in which everyone can have a bass dawson life, which what we're given that an equal opportunity. if there was some people that said, okay, that's on the list it to young. you don't understand the way the world. what, what would you say? it's very stable. i say that we just need to reframe all kind of narrative around this to the current perspective that we study. se fun is kind of through the lens and the path when we actually look at that the moment where regular people have bonded together and can achieve below the government could start. many counselor states have funding since 2010 up to 1000
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used centers have been shut down. so many young people life is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous. to me more they help those who had been impacted by buttons the the basis the grandpa to state needs grew up here. right. this is barbara. could you just tell me a little bit about what was going not pay that 1st made you want to be back in your community? part of it is the issues that we experienced here from such a young age, living in poverty, see and injustice experiencing injustice. i'm being exposed to such extreme violence and as i receive my next door neighbor, my childhood friend moffitt, he was on killed a month before his 18th birthday. i'm so yeah,
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that was definitely a calculus for me to one to one on the style and how things i couldn't even have turned in our society about to work with in my community to support people who are experiencing the things i know people should. i should be a vast experience, especially children in the front does. could you just explain to me a little bit about the services that you provide? the young people, for, from is on a mission to empower young people in communities to fight for just this piece on freedom. and we support young people who have experienced finance to create change in their own lives, in our community and society. so it's about community empowerment, it's about lifting young people to be able to fries, not just survive. you've also got a background in new or used. okay. to know what degree,
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how much do you feel that has impacted your work and the community and awareness of the situations that people come off again? when i went to university and i was studying all a vast, when i have fast realized how detached the legal system with a start deal of the legal system is from the reality. i had an experience where in one lecture, when we were learning about families not fighting for justice for their loved ones, the time being and cost. rachel, things that they haven't done. what we talking about is directly affected my community and the future lawyers tossing around really couldn't care about it. i realized i want to do the system from the inside. don't get me wrong. i respect people that do that. we have some amazing noise that we work with and i think we do need those people. i just didn't want to be one of them before i could do me from the outside. the work you do or pc is very kind of emotional, is personal. what kind of tow has it taken on you being engaged in that day to day
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this work come bring a lot of joy and fulfillment. but i can't take away from the fact that it's really hard to bear witness to people's pain, to 14 young people, process based experiences. i feel proud that they didn't have to be taught and then, but we're experiencing those things as a community connectivity we're experiencing to careful and in that sense, as long as that injustice. and what of this payment full amount that's happening. there's no way to not be impacted. so the total would take from me is the totaled i take from everybody in 2012 as part of an effort to reduce crime the government commission to study that looked into the background of prisoners. it found that 63 percent of the inmate surveyed had been eva temporarily permanently excluded from school. the
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link between a bad education and future incarceration is so distinct that it is known as the school to prison pipeline. to meet the project from the forefront project, work specifically with young people that have been excluded. how important do you think it is to engage with young people who are being excluded from schools? when you marginalize on people from education has passed time, they will experience exclusion from society. i think that has an open effect and how they perceive themselves and how they perceive the world and how they only afraid, well, following on from that, many schools, very disciplinarian and punitive and same young people up for imprisonment. certain young people because outside of just school exclusions, which catalog and attention, i think there's a whole spectrum that's even happening in the schools before people. i'm excluded
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cabinet me under the new legislation that they are trying to introduce and the police cause crime sentencing bill. they run pin not secure schools that are supposedly schools web security rather than presidents with education. that is not even a school, it's because of the pipeline anymore. we just skip the pipeline that went straight to the prism and it's not just about staying in school is also about what you 9 and what's in the curriculum. and as you need from really focusing on this and you know, specific needs. so it's about white washing of the curriculum. how do you think that links to the progress the young people can make it seem like a fundamental part of education? is he in study any topic from this perspective? and i think currently we have a very your century perspective with clues these payments. one fundamental role this country paid in things like empire colonialism and slavery. and if we kind of look on narrative around the past, this idea of the, essentially,
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these things were ended by a kind of mobile revelation on mobile development in the u. k. on a cost you up and of course they kind of less than weld the when we actually look at the, the haitian of the nation. as an example of it, of a historical event, which is the only of a successful revolution in which a wall is most profitable. calling in haiti, essentially overfill and in savory, not pay the pivotal role and shifting the tide towards that position. but if you look at the way the economy presented in the curriculum is essentially around this idea of moral development and the k. i think that has an impact on the way that we perceive social change today. because the kind of lens that we study the past in school undermines the importance in terms of the own tongue, historical narrative that movements are paid. and that means that we on the emphasize the role that we can pay as movements today. and certainly you'll coming this a few years further down the line is obviously graduated and,
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and been 3 days vacation system looking back. was there anything that you think was missing in the education system? i think for me, history was a subjects i was very passionate about. i really enjoyed the civil rights movement in the miracles. one of my favorite subjects had the time leaving school. i so and i knew nothing about the movement in this country. i'm learning everything that's happening in america the i have no idea about all of the black, the ration organizing that was happening in this country. i'm way before i was born . i'm gonna continue to happen way also. i type i so why it wasn't like being full about my own history in this country. something that i can connect with them relate to and that's gonna build my understanding of the well i'm living name of the society i'm living and that's something that i really would have value and they gave me wrong. i think international solidarity is really important. so i'm glad i got that understanding of what was happening abroad about it shouldn't have come at the expense of learning anything about what was happening in this country.
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in the ending march 2020, there were around 46000 recorded offences involving a nice and in london. the metropolitan police is born that 2021 is on track to being the last year of teenage kennings in more than a decade. as a response, the routing conservative party has called for the police to be given quite to powers while many john list and the british media is a gun label without factoring in the all the reasons that lead to this slide and tell me you've spoken about the importance of the distinction between the time down coat and the finance. why do you think it's time for that? that distinction is understood, developing an understanding of how particular labels are used to 5 of mountain lies and ostracized particular groups. the what gun in this country has become
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synonymous with black youth? a. why one with us? that is a question of why, what really is a guy. i mean, when you look at the legal definition, football hooligans, they could be a guided by the legal definition of various groups of people that could fit the destination of the gun. but the web guy has never used to naples them. and there's various research and studies, for example, one by carter can investigate that shows that across a section of the media that they studied. 62 percent of the time when a label was being used to describe the black east, black men and black boys in particular, it was the guy label. and i think is really the store in the root cause is of the issues of violence, you know, doing it on, do you have yeah, yeah, i agree. you have to think about the fundamental drivers and of some of which is basically like social, economic and in equality and how that is the root cause of violets and young black men are particularly presented as being like a model. and i think that connects to the stereotype and we just need to
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essentially read those who are in power of the responsibility. do they have been creating the social conditions for this? why that? because it's not like, like the economic inequality, the easiest in our communities, the close of the stubs, the funding of, of education, the lack of inclusive curriculum. he's a little decision being made by people impala. and so the use of stereotypes and those perceptions as a way of attention distancing themselves from how their policies have caused the social conditions and drive. this was the gang label to me that as an example of how it was set and labels, satin approaches, all established to deny people that route to access the resources and support that they require to kill. so many young people die themselves. how, you know, perpetuate violence against all the young people themselves have also been victims, multiple times, repeat victimization, and says, is the cycle of victimization,
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not heating, victimization, not having. got to be fat. if there isn't a one not come protects you. if there's no one that can prevent that harmless, stopped at home or support you also, you've experienced tom. why wouldn't young people take them as into their own hands? and that's something that doesn't get enough attention to something that i've had a lot was reporting on on the fine is, is that the young men feel unsafe and they don't feel like there is anybody that's gonna come and help them. they don't feel like they trust the police right. i at and could you think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u . k? i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why to use safety? because a way that a lot of politicians talk about is like next slide mysteries with as many police offices and outside safety for who. because actually, if we look at those, and now communities who are risk of having an act of violence committed against the nissan, not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims advisor
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. then looking at them in a very that timelines of suspicion of all you about to commit crimes that so is that the way that the police are interacting with people is not from a position of necessarily trying to look out for them? is often from a perspective of kind of suspicion and i think blinks about something that's really important to say is talking about. we want to move away from a punitive system doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just want to make that fit because it's really important to actually know that the system we have there is no incentive for accountability. we have an adversarial court system where because of was at stake i, there's no incentive for me to say i did this, i home this pass and i'm, and i want to make amends. i one of the paths at home. why would anybody, i know, just talking about extreme cases where people have been killed, i'm talking about right the way down to mole. i'm trivial matters, but i dealt with 3 the cause there is no incentive. so actually,
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the society that we have from a moral point of view is reading interested in truth accountability, see responsibilities. one of the things i think is important to us is a whole the content just to be around at drill music. and you know that there is an argument that glamorize is finance and that it perpetuates fine and um, but i wanted to hear what you guys think about your music. specifically, this is an age old debate in relation to trying to regulate suppressed on sense of black, awful, black music. well, you have to understand this about for maybe the 1st time in communities that have been economically completely marginalized. abandoned here now comes over a pos way for some means of material success for young people that have been excluded from other forms of income generation. so people's material needs are not being met. i'm had comes a way that people can come to the chief. i think. what do you think about this? i think the kind of jewel music to pots are the right way in our society because he
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went in to him by issues of violence as an all the one of those highly destructions by which they can kind of distance themselves from the direct flow and creating the conditions in which violence happens, because where have you ever seen the argument that any of the form is on the uh, the husband living side punk or what drives people to violent? i guess there was a new cap or kind of map, how was his english and driving by. that's how society i'm this associate inequality is a school exclusion that's only all the issues. but how is it new rigs in a song that supposing you're going to be driving devices and this doesn't make sense? do you know, think that there is an argument rate that what you're talking about punk, or if you're talking about these on the forms of food as a bar, the music, right. the difference is that with some drove music has been specific references to real life cases. if not, is of happened, people are, you know, basically using a song to say,
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we killed this past and this is how we did it. and that's different to punk music. i think this day as me, somebody, somebody said about that. but there's also, like we just have to look and the fact that these young people is next of a phonetic of that lived experience. but we need to ask ourselves how as a society, always creating a situation in which these kind of new is happening once they reflect about us. and the way that our society is being run. obviously points out there's a phone range of problems that we need to tackle. there is a lot of focus on the vitamins in the lyrics of the songs. but if you listen to artists like dave or students, you know, i don't think mainstream people are speaking. there are a lot lyrics that talk about the mental health effects that these lift experiences had and people. and for some reason those things don't really seem to come through . yeah. i don't think a if, if it's the narrative enough to part of one of my favorite songs of dave is actually cold panic attack. and it's from like his fast a, c p. and i just fell nearest by reading this, and i think there's
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a lot of music that is reading, documenting what young people are experiencing the kind of life that they have to live, how they have to navigate their own safety, their own pass, and had that rights and dignity and respect and the told about takes mentally and it just was perfectly encapsulates. and for me, in, in that song and that, that's of a song by example as well. i think if people are so concerned about drew, they should be horrified about people having those lift experience. i've actually, i'm said, why are we not more interested in that in 2017. a fire broke out in grenville tyler, a residential building that provided social housing in london. 72 people lost their lives a late too much that the fire spread so rapidly because greenfield exterior insulation is cutting with highly flammable. and that when the building was renovated,
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the year before, to improve its external appearance management to use the flammable cutting because it was cheap. we didn't have this conversation without mentioning glen, so it's become a massive symbol of social inequality and injustice in the u. k. what do you feel like it represents your generation? what happened at greenville? atalla sums up everything this wrong with the way the society currently is. if you look at the way that there was systemic racism in terms of who actually died, most of the people were black and brown. if we look at the fact that this would have happened in a richer community. if we look at the fact that people have been repeating the one about the, the danger of this building and the fact that none of the people who are involved and what happened in grateful type of face. and it just shows what is so fundamentally wrong with us side to the west of and such and young people for non violent dropped position and putting them in prison. but you can get away with
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having 2 people losing their lives in a fire. what does that tell us about the way the our society is one full hot birth them, like most people about what happened. i gram file and i think for me it symbolizes the neglect the a band, a man. and that's something that resonates with me. a lot because i come from the community and my est again, neglected abandoned, and left to roll under to be a to me when folks speak to that, because it's more important for this, i sort of a blog to look pretty for that. of the wealthy people that live near it, then it is for people to have the right to be safe in their own home. it's really interesting speech, basically at the same time because there were lots of a lots of what you'll say. but tell me, you said to me the other day that no one's coming to save us, we're gonna have to do this for ourselves. so you'll position slightly outside the system and you're thinking of possibly pursuing a career in politics,
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right. and trying to effect change from inside the system. why do you still have like s face in the system and also owns this things we've spoken about. if we look at a lot in the way that log issues and politics and talked about now it's people outside of the system who shape the way that politics interact with society. because they kind of, if we look at like, and racial justice, the ideas around transformative justice, these ideas that politicians are putting forward these ideas at community activities and all the people putting forward. and this is not necessary that we can. so when you need the change base, how can that be? and these people who are within the system who are receptive to these different visions of society. and i think what i want to see in politics is a kind of generational shift which my generation can try. we design and we shape the system. because just as it was set of people made the system this way. so can that be, i think, is that of people who can time make it work for the vast majority of people in this
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country, following on from that point in time, in the back of what you said to me and how do you feel looking at the system more generally, i respect i found the decision if he wants to go with it and i feel that we need to move towards a political system where we have people that represent task. people of the people also come in and see from the community for the community and unfortunately, but we look south politicians. i was just not the case. so if we can have young people like i can't seem to make it transformed assistance would be where we can actually have that representation. then i think that is, you know, a wife while i'm mission to, to have pass. i mean, i wouldn't want to do that myself. i want to empower people on the ground. and i think that the 2 can what hand in hand, but that's my focus. when i look back on my life, i want to say this is how i invested my energy because we have limited energy. we have limited time results. and so that's my decision of how i wanted to use my own
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time and results to try and create impacts and create a as well as inside watching these conversations, which is positive, you know, and at this time is that something i think a lot of people are searching for so thank you so much for coming and speaking to generation change and i look forward to seeing like you, you going to do in the future in the united nation, the power to transcend food. i want to tell people not only himself to the needs, but i'm african m, the legend world that opens up on his remarkable gem from the child refugee to leading south to the basketball world. i felt that it was important that i give back. i felt that it was part of what i had for the generation school on
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