of atlanta stein will to be legal trade. what you have here is not just american logical optics. you're talking about the political damage, where the spoils of war smuggled and sold to books and houses and private collectors are selling. i mean, part of the fact is worth finance is to be headings of muslims in the middle east. don't sell, don't buy. that's one quick solution. ok. trafficking on i will just be around on the 10 and initiative by algeria in the crisis in neighboring this year. the areas are proposing a 6 month transition period from military to civilian rule, while other countries are threatening to leaders with military intervention. so how much leverage does algeria have to push its initiative forward? this is inside store the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much enjoying the political crisis in this area is turning into a growing problem for neighboring countries. among them, algeria, the co last month and this year has unleashed fears of fighting spelling over its borders, and reinforcing armed groups linked to outside the across the trouble. so had region. algeria is proposing a transitional government in here to avoid military intervention by some of these years neighbors. but leaders of the to say their support is growing stronger and louder at home. so when they hear welcome, algeria is plan and can sanctions force all parties to the negotiating table will explore these issues in more with our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report by katya lopez, whether or not it's been 5 weeks since new year's president mohammed resume was the post vice presidential guard international calls to reinstate him. have grown, as well as threats of a military intervention to make that happen. oh jerry,

a wants to avoid military action in neighboring new share and is proposing a plan for a transitional government. i have on my side who i see that must be participation and consent from all policies in yet. no one should be sidelined. these arrangements should not exceed 6 months. that should happen under the supervision of a civil authority. led by mutually agreed figure. must include the approval of each is why the political spectrum as a way to restore constitutional order in the country. general of the rock montane who loved the crew once a 3 year period before restoring civilian rule. the threats of a military intervention from the echo was regional block of west african states has apparently some little to deter him despite a blockade. and sanctions against the chair. neither side has budged and neither wants to look weak. it is nothing anybody's interest separately,

nothing. the interest of any african country in this block. so they don't have a choice. now the, the, the home to have said that given it's 3 years. oh, echo was come now. do is to negotiate a short timeline. despite support rallies at home, concerns are growing abroad. neighbors like old jerry a fear finding any share could spill over the border, threatening more instability and a few minutes area crisis to to some civically. some sure. let me tell you some, some sanctions put in place by echo was don't include an exemption for humanitarian aid, so there is no exemption right now. there is no way to bring him monitoring aid into the country with signing any share could further the stabilize the region and bolster on groups linked to al qaeda in iso operating in the hills region. as the

political instability in easier goes on neighboring countries, including al syria, hope, diplomacy, or outweigh plans for military intervention. a catchy, a little bit of a in for insight story. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in london. is alexis awkward yet? i'm managing editor at the news website center for africa and abu jet capital of nigeria is could be a managing director at beacon consulting. that's a security risk management and intelligence provider in nigeria and the south region. and in some of the, in france, we have a jackson on the senior research fellow at the global policy institute, the think tank a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story could be, or let me start with you today from your vantage point. does this initiative by algeria to in the crisis in this year actually have a chance at succeeding? i mean, do you think that the cool leaders in the share would welcome algeria as plan a thank you. yeah. yeah. so from the side of the cause, um,

it appears to me that this is uh, an opportunity for install london fee. the july 26th included top eco attempted to find the solution of the grant to restore democratic constitutional the in the jar of morales field. and i thought about the by the point where he's looking we um, the last payment that came out of the gentleman of the, of course commission didn't indicate that it was what the contemplations from some form of a transition program. and so if you're coming up with this short a p d on the done, the one that was put forward by the one try a new job, then it is more likely that it was a listen to the federal. and the timing of that would be a plea, for instance,

the provision that the gym. i know it was the president of teaching the insistence, for instance, on a ministry dimension. and the fact that they would die itself has consistently not proven to be trustworthy by team of negotiations like this. so all of these would determine how important that would be a response to the thought of jerry and you know, solution that had been put forward. alexis, that could be, or there was talking about echo as the regional block of west african states. and i want to ask you a similar question from your perspective, how seriously will be out jerry and initiative be taken by echo watson. and how much weight does algeria carry and all of this? so i think this will be taken strongly, seriously by a class, and i think it's exactly void that this is offering a soft line thing. because ultimately, a course does not want to follow through on this suggestion of really true intervention and been clean, of course, doesn't want to seen wink. so it's in

a really quick position. and this offers an opportunity to, to know what we're taking seriously, because out to be shared support. uh with this. yeah. so this is l j re offering the solution. and algeria has a portable reason to actually carry and follows through. so that really helps because then they can be a decent broker between the position of a class and then they don't necessarily seem to be aligned to fonts, but they do because i'll do, we have said repeatedly that they would not support any for ministry intervention. and it's in their best interest because i do not want this to escalate, cuz i don't, i don't want any for necessary conflict to any kind of unnecessary action and conflict on their doorstep. so shock, kabir and alexis have been talking the last few minutes about how echo was so will react to this proposal by all jury. but let me ask you, how likely is it that france which sign onto this initiative to i think proud to

support it already. because for 2 reasons, 1st uh, president to move into the julia and my call get underway in spite of the, the conflicts of the, of, of the many issues. but they get on the way i do of often speak. and the already a few years ago in the last meeting when a boon and nicole met the dog about your role that julia should play is w. isaac, the situation in his head and fraud things up. in that case, a julia would be owed is broke because of julia, as was said as a big boulder with the with news. yeah. and i was joe. yeah. certainly does. a lot to uh it will always doorstep is already or already i julia is very concerned about the trouble in the money e. i mean uh yeah they, they are very worried about to get these group. don't forget that the joe. yes. if

the ninety's from the ready go to use that means with the c. so they are very sensitive to that issue. didn't seem to the rule in that region would benefit on the did you had these group or good take advantage of the fact that the, the drug allow me, for example, really busy repeating the invaders and so on. so and we've, they've already noticed that the, the country like, but the, uh, the geologist progress is very strong. seems deprive chevrolet at another point. oh, so is that a g a as very good relationship with russia? a 90 percent or do we need to recruitment do nat geo? yeah, is from russian origin. so the only thing that a julia would be d, i d a d the country to try to bring a solution, a negotiated solution to do this in brookview. it is you can be or if we are

considering francis roll and all of this going forward, we have to mention that the qu, leaders in the chair of accused eco us, of being in france's pocket. so i want to ask you how much of that has the potential to complicate all of these efforts to come up with a diplomatic solution? so really, you know, we've, we've listened to reactions from civil society organizations that are trying to close to the one time in new jersey to this development. most of then click the site and the development suggested the idea is standing on the fence. i don't like, has been mentioned, are you uh, maintained in neutron standards instead of claims that it does respect democratic democratic government and to the extended warranty. the president doesn't weigh it at all. so given this leeway as it were, the one to, to allow them to transition beautiful fits 6 months. so it was, i do, in addition,

the condom into the tons. uh, they would prefer that between each of the way out of the area. you know, some of them don't. uh, especially with regard to the when the chrome i came from and i think the deciding that live in the model to the new jersey by united i think where regarding the condemnation of friends it was quoted then they'll follow on to the very tricky line that you haven't talked to please now how long does the visa be because desire to restore democracy and to continue it is do you know when that is going to west to west africa would be a very difficult and not what like has been mentioned, right? i'll give you a house or the credential to bleed out room, and if it's the by going to original pilot the you as a friend of an example,

we decided we would have a very them to be boxed. it does not look forward to the position of the way. uh, alexis is yours qu, leaders that have called for a transitional period. that last uh, i believe they said uh at most 3 years. uh, and i want to ask you about this. um, because out jerry is plan mentions a 6 month transitional period. so when it comes to that specific point of contention, um would the cool leaders in new share potentially agree to a shorter timeline when it comes to transition? and i think it's entirely possible that they would agree true. i think the government putting offer over 3 year period of transition is under construction position. they are looking at where they can start from and they may be reduced from that. but that wants to be as ambitious as possible. i mean, i think we should always change sides of how they sol solved typically. don't put

you mystic cru web by. it appears the head of the presidential god was going to be pushed out for them from that it is snowballed and maybe in this position. but ultimately they want to find some kind of middle ground. so i don't think they'll necessarily be ideologically driven and believed for the have to push for 13 years . and then at least i can find some form of compromise solution. also it's westborough and the mind of the functions that are being imposed on these are going to keep on biting is not going to get easier. so they will want to resolve this because on several industries, is that one of the poor countries in the well, now the price of goods, particularly for stuff, is coming up constantly food inflation is going to go through the roof. it is a ready and then electricity has been shut down as well. electricity coming from nigeria. so that's what we're going to increase the pressure on the jump to because over time support for them go away. and so they'll want to wrap this up. i'm. that's why i don't think they're going to stick to that has to be 3 years when they

to compromise and move closer to the 6 months. being suggestive. biology is like, i want to step back from want to look at another complicating factor when it comes to francis role in all of this because the co leaders in the chair gave frances and bass that are to, in his year 48 hours to leave the country, but president and money, $1.00 micron announced that the ambassador will remain in the chair. so from your vantage point there in france, i mean, how much does that have the potential to make the situation potentially worse, going forward in the process or wait and see a to, to do in that in just met to don't want to giving to the agenda the giving you guys the on the fact that maybe the population wouldn't begin to get worried about the impact of the section as their biggest. because said, because a day is a but you, many julian crises is developing that they also have dishes shows up on the

indigent notated rewan degrees on the way for award day or so. we pro bose is a point. the fact that the school was a big stretch because the situation in these yeah. and the present the zoo was getting back to you. they couldn't meet and secure tubs, and he was democratically elected. so the think that they think that maybe the people in the yeah with us, what is the junk bringing to the plate? what is it giving me? what do you need? the overall could be that we don't see anything that the judge could provide except stuffing on the computer. these are the french few days which lives, which has been activity, they did that promoted by russia in the region. so what of the d b? as in that sense, the id that they have chosen,

i was brought up for the maybe the agenda would want to grow the show to transition. that's why i think they should agree on to the 6 months period because they are now are there even hit the punch in a new president, the president? let me say who is a reasonable person away? no. and he and it couldn't be kind of west of circle was, was biased confusions. so that responding to the demands, the reasonable or proposal made by a g a would present the order wise as a thing that we face to really we don't know the, you know, the nation has to be drugs. we don't know the feelings of the population. exactly. we don't know what something we know what something number, but i looked at the big meeting and the stadium to just it wasn't food. so we don't know whether they're riding on a wave of computer support. whether something in the country at from west i called . i called see, uh, alexis, i saw you reacting quite

a bit to what jack was saying there, and it looked like you wanted to jump in, so i'm going to go and give you that opportunity as well. i mean, always the same. ultimately. yes, it's clear that functions are going to in creasing and bite. and i think at the moment what the transfers done is by via original way they bring to the wave of popular and she french sentiment. i'm going forward, the speaking, i'm sure west and sentiment, but the window of opportunity is closing for them with time. the sanctions are going to buy more more and that thing to about the future miserable turn on them because life is getting hot. it's also clear that the bassoon was doing well when it comes to fighting the is almost insurgents operating in the country. those and such and such loyal to both. okay. on the one hand to and also those around the world too. um is that makes state so with time, the longer the term to stays in power and the more you see the functions biting

group of quotes are living really going down. and then they have problems with the insurgents. for then it gets halter and all that for the printer. now we're seeing that with money, for example, they found it increasingly difficult to deal with every insurgencies. so it's likely that fits into will take a leaf out of the book that's happened with molly. i just think about how they can find a solution, find some kind of part to accept. so kind of compromise solution can be or both the shock and alexis mentioned the last few minutes, the anti french sentiment in these year. i want to ask you um, where was anti french sentiment in the chair before the cool compared to where it is now? so i mean, it was called people before that. and um, you know, i operate a new job and you could feel that we and i don't to correct the point mich model

specific. it to me, i mean it's all over the country and it's the existence of the average major new jersey, the level over the, the, the private asian. but he or she goes to uninstall the role of the social media that has a portrayed live in front of it, where they have to live in new job and model the lead up the, the contribution of back governance in the jar. and perhaps even in from the country, we have a bucket of what the public and miss information, the different formation pointed to what are the rules upfront of especially in the extraction of monroe. and the so called sharon formula around. now what the deed is, the realized be the only t o presented on the bare right in the need. i think if we just that's because the full garage that has been what has really booked in the uh,

the unit phone round. most to me, julian, is this funny that they do you and so the, the in the cool. i've had a bunch of nifty in every been to the point of a for a front of what's going on. you know, of others. they've been doing the job and i think going forward, this is why do i try to go ahead and make sure the running support around? yeah, i mean there are pockets of resistance here. and then what size are you on here in just a 2nd here? let me also follow up with you because you're, you're talking about the junk in these, you're utilizing anti french sentiment to their advantage leaders of the, to they're also say that their support is growing stronger at home. how much support do you figure they actually have in this year? where does public opinion stand as far as you can tell the the dera indicate that would tell us where we yeah. um,

immediately updated cool in the public space. these, these data on particular where the web being held your what state of video for the cup of tea. now the 11, mike, you know, the, well, the cool, which was in or was on august the 6th that's dealing with lots tools. i need maybe a reflection of the effect of the function, but the job it may be a reflection of the reality of the average median. there are 2 boxes that would be much the effect of the, of the song generally going to be thoughtful. and then, you know, they need to be doing that way once they get receipts with sensor, all that stuff in and bought some new job by getting started in groups and started on the news media the train of thought from the top. so what's the new jersey, the beginning drop the question, the question. um no, uh at the moment. um there are, there are several um no regents that have come. so of course right around this on different sentiment as opposed to book the gender. but i know the jim job brought

in, bought for with the union. the fact on this option did not put forward any alternative would be shown, if, especially in terms of how do you intend to manage better the resources that need the new job, then you need a new job. so, planning on the, the one that they've generated at the beginning of the equation, beginning to waste how father, who, and what differentiates during that time all the time until jack, let me ask you about one more specific part of the initiative by algeria. algeria says that they would also seek a united nations conference to restore constitutional order, propose guarantees for all sides in the crisis, and to host a conference on development in the south region. is that something you can actually see it happening going forward? that would be nice to be good up and i don't know whether it can be can be done with every watts because in this region of this so many, you know, these region as we go the playground fall kind of for the struggle between original

bars and there is so we know that you know, a lot of africa. no, it's just a handle is seen as a treasure, treasure, chest and then every one was a piece of the action the at border. well pause prism the so who do you have a concerns where everybody comes to the table or if you dig january in with the genuine these are 2 soldiers to do a show and i'm not sure especially does or doesn't know that i mentioned that the conflict is the on the west diamond sion which is being played out there, you know, it is, it would shuttle him sort of other. what do we see? we saw the reaction of him in the african countries do russian invasion of ukraine . you can see that there's a growing challenge in the rest of the well no, just the days in south america to the western order as it was a separation of it will do. so. the fact that today that i dumped

a no deductible or waiting meaning approach, i'm not too sure and to go in and time is because it seems that the oil somebody but seems to me to want to disturb you guys decide rather than the stuff you guys alexis, i want to ask you more specifically about how concerned al jerry is about the potential of spillover for a violence from these year. if a military confrontation takes place going forward, i mean, how much could fighting in new jersey stabilize the region, and how much might it bolster armed groups linked to al qaeda and i saw that operate and this i had to reach to my sibling destabilize. the reason i think that's while to res, taking this sort of seriously, i mean, the longer this goes on and if there was any form of conflict in for military intervention, the only beneficiaries would be the insurgents. because ripping, we've seen this in molly and in between the past. so and we're seeing image that is

already stretched and nigeria is on restricted as well. and that to resolve me is stretched with internal issues around um, so to find a trick about forensic in the northwest of that long standing using listing. so it didn't seem to ne and various other conflicts, such as the sessions in the se. so if all of those, all these were involved in some kind of military intervention in some form of conflict that will bring destructive eval, reggie stress, and the search that sees what i'm going to get worse. and i'll give you a really nice if this, and i'll, julia already has the bitter experience of seeing the spillover form for the coffee in libya and they present, right? so that, so they know that the good ultimately will come up. this it will only be stabilize the region. it won't make the range of a more stable. that's why the taking it so seriously and compare if we're talking

about the stabilization and spill over a violence, we must also mention the humanitarian aspect to all of this. and i want to ask you from your vantage point, what kind of humanitarian crisis might we see if fighting does break out in this year? so does that mean to you at another point in your area or on that? um, i think the last statement by units of indicated at about 2000000, some children it would be at risk of the vision or any. and this is just because of the effect of the functions on the job by april was now, is this degenerates into a wall in the dream division. you can even buy them to inbox it would have on the trans you 5000000 population and the job plot of this overall re i re for g then, or the from the idea around all the neighboring countries in new york. i mean, well really wanting to remark, which is a little bit strange that in spite of the cycle the need are, you still have 3 for do you from what countries coming into new jersey at the

moment. so clearly the humanity around. consequently, the ministry and dimensions is going to be huge in the region that they've already suffering from different conflicts. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guest, alexis awkward yet. i'm could be or other move and chuck a lot and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just hear a. com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside story. you can also during the conversation on x i handle is at a j inside story. from him have mentioned to him the whole team here, bye for now. the the

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