how much enjoying the political crisis in this area is turning into a growing problem for neighboring countries. among them, algeria, the cool last month and this year has unleashed fears of fighting spelling over its borders, and reinforcing armed groups linked to outside the across the troubled, sad region. algeria is proposing a transitional government in here to avoid military intervention by some of his years neighbors. but leaders of the to say their support is growing stronger and louder at home. so when they hear welcome, algeria is plan and can sanctions force all parties to the negotiating table will explore these issues in more with our guests in a moment. but 1st this report by katya lopez for the yeah. it's been 5 weeks since these years president mohammed was zoom, was the post vice presidential guard international calls to reinstate him. have grown as well as threats of a military intervention to make that happen. oh jerry, a wants to avoid military action in neighboring new share. and is proposing a plan for a transitional government. have in my thoughts,

who are the must be participation and consent from all policies in yet? no one should be sidelined. these arrangements should not exceed 6 months. this should happen under the supervision of a civil authority led by mutually agreed figure. must include the approval of each is why the political spectrum is a way to restore constitutional order and the country general of the rock montane, who loved the crew once a 3 year period before restoring civilian rule. the threat of a military intervention from the echo was regional block of west african states has apparently done little to deter him despite of blockade and sanctions against each year. neither side has budged and neither wants to look weak. it is nothing, anybody's interest, certainly nothing. the interest of any african country in this block. so they don't have a choice. now the, the,

the home to have said that given it's 3 years old, echo was come now. do is to negotiate a short timeline despite support rallies at home, concerns are growing abroad. neighbors like old jerry a fear finding any share could spill over the border, threatening more instability and a few minutes area crisis to to some civically some. so let me give you some some sanctions put in place by echo was don't include an exemption for humanitarian aid . so there is no exemption right now. there is no way to bring him mandatory and aid into the country. we bought this from hiding an easier could further the stabilize the region and bolster on groups linked to al qaeda and i so operating in this a hell region. as the political instability in easier goes on neighboring countries including l, syria, hope diplomacy will outweigh plans for military intervention. patsy,

a little bit of a, in for insights story. all right, let's go and bring in our guests in london. is alexis awkward yet? i'm managing editor at the news website center for africa and about jet capital of nigeria is, could be or other than managing director at beacon consulting. that's a security risk management and intelligence provider in nigeria and the south region. and in some of the, in france, we have a jackson on the senior research fellow at the global policy institute, the think tank a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story could be, or let me start with you today from your vantage point. does this initiative of biology area to in the crisis in this year actually have a chance of succeeding? i mean, do you think that the cool leaders in this year would welcome algeria as plan a thank you. yeah. yeah. so from the side of the cause it appears to me that this is the end of what you need you for your thoughts london

. the thing that you liked during this big included top echo while attempting to find the solution. i'd be glad to restore democratic on the job or the new job of more or less field. and i talk about the by the point where he's looking week and the last payment that came out of the gentleman of the vehicle was commission didn't indicate that april was what the contemplations from some form of a transition proved on. so if you're coming over, which is a short uh, a pdf, done, the one that was put forward by the one try a new job, then it, it more likely that it was a listen to the federal and the timing of that would be a plea for instance that for the young that the gym. i know it was the dimension on president of teaching. the insistence, for instance, on a ministry innovation. and they found that they would die itself has consistently

not proven to be trustworthy by team of negotiations like this. so all of these would determine how and what that would be a response to develop jerry and you know, solution that has been put forward alexis that could be, or there was talking about echo as the regional block of west african states. and i want to ask you a similar question from your perspective, how seriously will be out during an initiative be taken by echo watson and how much weight does algeria carry and all of this? i think this will be taken streaming services by a class. i think it's exactly by that this is offering a soft line thing because ultimately a course does not want to follow through on this suggestion of really true intervention. and including a course doesn't want to seen wink. so it's in a really cool position. and this offers an opportunity to, to know what we're taking seriously, because out to be shared support. uh with this. yeah. so this is l j re offering

a solution in algeria has a portable reason to actually can and follows through. so that really helps because then they can be a decent broker between the position of a class and then they don't necessarily seem to be aligned to funds. but they do because i'll do, we have said repeatedly that they would not support any for ministry intervention. and it's in their best interest because i do not want this to escalate, if i don't, don't want any for necessary conflict to any kind of unnecessary action and conflict on their doorstep. so shock, kabir and alexis have been talking last few minutes about how echo was so will react to this proposal by all jury. but let me ask you, how likely is it that france would sign onto this initiative to i think for all sorts of voltage already. because for 2 reasons. first, the president to move into the julia and my call gets underway in spite of the,

the conflicts to the, of, of the many issues. but they get on the way i do of often speak. and the already a few years ago in the last meeting went to the building and nicole met the dog about doing role that julia should great is w, isaac, the situation in his head and fraud things up. in that case, a julia would be owed is broke because of julia, as let's say, as a big boda with the with news. yeah. and i'll show, yeah. certainly does a lot to uh, it will always doorstep is already are already as julia is very concerned about the trouble in the money e. i mean uh yeah they, they are very well read about to get these groups. don't forget that the show us the ninety's from the ready go to studies with the c. so they are very sensitive to that issue. and they've seen that whole in that region would benefit on

the g a. these group are good. take advantage of the fact that the huge and i'll me far is about really busy repeating the invaders and so on. so and we've, they've already noticed that the, the country like by the, the, the deities to progress is very strong. seems defined chevrolet at another point or so. is that a g a as very good relationship with russia, a 90 percent, or do we need to recruitment dean that julia is from russian origin? so the only thing that a julia would be the idea is the deed of the country to try to bring a solution, a negotiated solution to do this in brookview, it is you can be or if we are considering francis role and all of this going forward, we have to mention that the cool leaders in the share of accused echo us of being

in france's pocket. so i want to ask you how much of that has the potential to complicate all of these efforts to come up with a diplomatic solution. so really, you know, we've, we've listened to reactions from civil society organizations that are trying to close to the one time in new jersey to this development. most of then click assignment, the development suggested the idea is standing on the fence. i don't like, has been mentioned to you, we have maintained in your trust standards instead of claims that it does respect, democratic democratic government and to the extended part of the president by the way, that it does also given this leeway as it were, the one to to allow them to transition beautiful physics model. so typically in addition condemning to the tons, uh, they would prefer to be the reach of the way out of the area. you know,

some of them, they wouldn't, uh, especially with regard to the on the chrome. so i came from and i think the deciding i live in the model to the new jersey by united, i think where regarding the condemnation of the, from the post colonial policy. and so that's the very tricky line that you will have to please. now, how long does the visa be? because does i have to read it to a democratic be and to continue it is do you know when that is going to west of west africa would be a very difficult and not what like has to be mentioned, right? i'll give you a house or the credential to bleed out room, and if it's a 100, by the original policy you as a friend of an example, which sadly will have a very big boxes look for the position of the way. uh alexis is yours qu,

leaders that have called for a transitional period. that last uh, i believe they said uh at most 3 years. uh, and i want to ask you about this. um, because out serious plan mentions a 6 month transitional period. so when it comes to that specific point of contention, um would the cool leaders in the chair potentially agree to a shorter timeline when it comes to transition? i think it's entirely possible that they would agree true. i think the government putting offer over a 3 year period of transition is under construction position. say i'm looking at where the consult. busy and the may be reduced from that, but they wanted to be as efficient as possible. i mean, i think we should always change sides of how this all started. this was, i don't put you mystic cru web i, it appears that kind of the presidential god was going to be pushed out for them from that it is snowballed and living this position. but i mean,

ultimately they want to find some kind of middle ground. so i don't think they'll necessarily be argued logictree trip or and believe for the have to push for 13 years. and then at least they can find some form of compromise solution. also it's west bar in the minds of the functions that are being imposed. one is you are going to keep on biting is not going to get easier. so they will want to resolve this because on several industries. and it's just one of the poor countries in the world . now, the price of goods, particularly food stuff, is coming up constantly food inflation is going to go through the roof. it is a ready and then electricity has been shut down as well. electricity coming from nigeria. so that's what we're going to increase the pressure on the jump to because over time support for them go away. and so they'll want to wrap this up and that's why i don't think they're going to stick to that has to be 3 years when that are compromise and move closer to the 6 months spring semester biology area. as jack, i want to step back from want to look at another complicating factor when it comes

to francis role in all of this. because the cool leaders in the chair gave frances and bass that are to in his year 48 hours to leave the country. but president emmanuel micron announced that the ambassador will remain in the chair. so from your vantage point there in france, i mean how much does that have the potential to make the situation potentially worse, going forward in the process or wait and see a judge in that? it doesn't matter. they don't want to give in to the agenda. the give you guys the on the fact that maybe the population wouldn't begin to get worried about the impact of the section as their biggest. because said, because there is a, you many tell you and crises is developing that the most of the shows up around the indigent notate rewan degrees under way full load day or so. we pro bose is a point. the fact that the school was

a big stretch because the situation in nice. yeah. and the present the zoo was getting back to you. they couldn't meet and secure tubs, and he was democratically elected. so the think that they figured maybe the people in the yeah with us, what is the junk bringing to the plate? what is it giving me? what do you think overall could be that we don't see anything that the doctor provide except stuffing on the properties of the french few days. which depths which has been uh, actually dead promoted by russia in the region. so what, oh the d b as in that sense the id that they have chosen, i was brought up for the maybe the agenda would want to grow the show to transition. that's why i think they should agree on the 6 months period because

they are now or even just the pointing a new president, the president. let me say who is a reasonable person away, no need. and it couldn't be kind of west of circle was, was biased confusions. so that responding to the demands, the reasonable or proposal made by a g a would present the order wise as a thing that we face to really we don't know the, you know, the nation is because we don't know the feelings of the population. exactly. we don't know what something we know what something number, but i looked at the big meeting in the stadium that just, it wasn't food. so we don't know whether you're riding on a wave of computers vote. melissa was something in the country at from west and i called, i called see, uh, alexis, i saw you reacting quite a bit to what jack was saying there. and it looked like you wanted to jump in. so i'm going to go ahead and give you that opportunity as well. i mean the always the

same ultimately, yes, it's clear that functions are going to creasing and bite. and i think at the moment what the gentry's done expect via original way they were gonna waive a popular and she french sentiment. i'm going forward. the speaking on to west and sentiment above the window, what the change is closing for them with time. the sanctions are going to buy more more and there is a thing to about the future miserable turned on them because life is getting hot. it's also clear that the bassoon was doing well when it comes to fighting, the is almost insurgents operating in the country. those and such and such a loyal to both, i'll call you to on the one hand to and also that was around the world to make state. so we're time the longer the term to stays in power. and the more you see the functions biting group of quotes are living really going down, and then they have problems with the insurgents,

or then it gets halter and all that for the printer. now we're seeing that with money, for example. um, they found it increasing difficult to deal with every insurgencies, so it's likely that fits into will take a lease out of the book that's happened with molly. i just think about how they can find a solution, find some kind of part to accept. so kind of compromise solution can be, or both the shock and alexis mentioned the last few minutes, the anti french sentiment in this year. i want to ask you, um, where was anti french sentiment in the chair before the coo compared to where it is now? so i mean, it was possible before that and um, you know, i operate a new job and you could feel that we and i don't to correct the point mich model specific. it to me, i mean, it's all over the country and it's the existence of the average med disney

junior, the level over the, the, the private asian. but he or she goes to uninstall the role of the social media that has a portrayed live in file. that's where i can bear to live in new job. i'm model the, the, the, the, the contribution of governance in the jar. and perhaps even in, for a new country, we have a bucket and all of what the public and the missing information, the different formation pointed to what the rules upfront of, especially in the extraction of monroe. and the so called sharon formula around. now what the deed is, the realized be and only t o resentment on the right and on the i think if we just that's because the full garage has been what has really booked in the uh, the uni phone ring around most immediately. and if the thought that they do you, and so the, the, in the cool, i thought the question, if the good, the,

of every been to the point of the front of the know others. they've been in the jar and i think going forward, this is what do i try to go ahead and make sure the running support around? yeah, i mean there are pockets of resistance here. and then what size are you on here in just a 2nd here? let me also follow up with you because you're, you're talking about the junk in these year, utilizing anti french sentiment to their advantage leaders of the, to they're also say that their support is growing stronger at home. how much support do you figure they actually have in this year? where does public opinion stand as far as you can tell the the dera indicator that would tell us where we yeah. um, immediately updated cool. in the public space these, these danielman particular where for the web being held your what state of the, the on the 4th a cup of tea. now the 11 of my team that, well the cool,

which was in or with an august 26th, that that's dealing with lots tools. and it may be a reflection of the effect of the function. but the job, it may be a reflection of the reality of the average median. there are 2 boxes that would be much the effect of the assumptions economics, dr. and then do you know, they need to be that way. we don't want to. thank you regina with sense that we're all that stuff in and bought some new job by getting started in groups. i'm starting on the news media, the train of thought from the top. so what's the materials around the beginning to ask the question, the question. um no uh at the moment. um there are, there are several um regents that have come so of course right around is under frank sentiment as of what, what did you not but i know the one that i jumped up brother bought for with the the fact that the show did not good for any alternative with vision, if the specially in terms of how do you intend to manage better the result is that

new, the new job, new job. so plenty of the, the, they've generated at the beginning of the equation beginning to waste how father, who, and what pressure during that time or the time to tell jack, let me ask you about one more specific part of the initiative by algeria. algeria says that they would also seek a united nations conference to restore constitutional order proposed guarantees for all sides in the crisis. and to host a conference on development in the south region. is that something you can actually see happening going forward? that would be nice to be good up and i don't know whether it can be can be done with everyone because in this region this so many, you know, this region as we go the playground fall kind of for the struggle between original bars and there is so we know that, you know, or i've forgotten those just this i had is seen as a treasure, treasure,

chest and then everyone wants a piece of the action the at border. well pause prism the so could you have a concerns where everybody comes to the table or if you need january and it with the genuine. and these are 2 as soon as you do a show and i'm not sure especially does or doesn't know, the dimensions of the conflict is the on the west diamond sion which is being played out there. you know, it is, it would shut off the sort of other, what do we see? we saw the reaction of him in the african countries do russian invasion of ukraine . you can see that there's a growing challenge in the rest of the well no, just the days in south america to the western order as it was as that piece of it will do. so the fact that today that i dumped at no cheese up to road way, meaning approach, i'm not too sure and to go in and drive it because it seems that the oil for many

but seems to be to want to disturb you guys decide. rather than the stuff you guys, alexis, i want to ask you more specifically about how concerned al jerry is about the potential of spillover for a violence from these year. if a military confrontation takes place going forward, i mean, how much could fighting in new jersey stabilize the region and how much might it boasts are armed groups linked to al qaeda and i saw that operate and this i had to reach or wait to massively destabilize the reason i think that's while to res, taking this so seriously. i mean, the longer this goes on and if there was any form of conflict in for military intervention, the only beneficiaries would be the insurgents. because written you, we've seen this in molly and in between if i so, and we're seeing image that is already stretched and nigeria is on restricted as well. and that to resolve me is stretched with internal issues around um,

so combined to treat ship upfront some in the northwest of that long standing using listing. so didn't seem to ne and various other conflicts, such as the sessions in the se. so if all of those, all these were involved in some kind of military intervention in some form of conflict that will bring destructive already stretched on the circuit, sees what i'm going to get was to now to be a really nice if this an algebra already has the bitter experience of seeing the spirit over form for the coffee in libya and they present, right? so that so they know that the good ultimately will come up. this will only be stabilize the region. it won't make the range of any more stable. that's why they're taking it so seriously and could be, or if we're talking about the stabilization and spill over a violence, we must also mention the humanitarian aspect to all of this. and i want to ask you from your vantage point,

what kind of humanitarian crisis might we see if fighting does break out in this year? so does that mean to you at another point in your area or on that? um, i think the last statement by units that indicated at about $2000000.00 children it would be at the risk of starvation or any. and this is just because of the effect of assumptions on the job by april was now, is this degenerates into a wall and industry innovation? you can even buy them to inbox it would have on the trinity 5000000 population. and the job plot of this overall re i re, for g men or those from id around or the neighboring countries that i knew jobs. i mean, well really wanting to remark, which is a little bit strange that in spite of the cycle the need are, you still have 3 for deep from what are countries coming into a new job at the moment. so clearly, the humanity around. consequently, the ministry and dimension is going to be huge in the region that they've already suffering from different conflicts. all right, well we have run out of time,

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