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a political damage where the spoils of war smuggled and sold to watch and houses, and private collectors, buying or selling. i mean, part of the fact is worth finance is to be headings of muslims in the middle east. don't sell, don't buy. that's one quick solution. ok. trafficking on i will just be around a friend is a country with a long history of activism for women's rights organization. starts with the suffragette, the anti fascist police, and people have success pretty full for new right and against injustice across the aged. but the struggle social justice is fall from eva in the 6 biggest economy in the world. the gap between rich and poor is stock, and increasing. welcome to generation change a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that make lies
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around the world. my name is amount of money and on the journey space here in london is this episode we need to young activities who, what's happening the re, quote, is a violent from on just move to an education system to pull the t policing and racial inequality. who in 2010, conservative like government came into power and implemented a policy of a stereo t o u for the next decade. billions of pounds of costs in public spending in london use violence and knife. crime is increased to catch blames austerity the
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so right now we're in canada and you basically grew up around here, right? a lot of people near this area for being a tourist destination for the market, but this is a place where you've kind of decided that you want to get involved in buy optimism . i'm watching in the community. why is that? i think it's good if you look at kind of the ments well, the power, the big company, but we don't e, quine, share the food. so what's happening, and i say in particular as a, as a passive, you see all these issues around you provided. and you decide if it's not meaning is going to be involved, then you will be the . so when he was 15 years old, he decided to join the new parliament of great britain. and you gave a reading,
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passion, speech about me, finance, and use some of was winston to, to leave for merchant services. nita, against the conservative policies as my crime, james moore lives within our country. a never so much been lost by so many because of the indecision of so for you what we think you, when you decided to do that, it's about the idea that you can use people's words against the conservative party . have the set of ideals about the way they want to run with it, but they don't for assume the hit on kind of the rest of the week, about leveling off the country is not mess up by any kind of real investment. this little taping over the crux of a decade or was thursday which they froze in talking me under the bus the. what does a fair and more 8 homo just country look like i think is about fundamentals
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investing in for me. right now we have a system in which communities, essentially left brain problems and they face of the we have to think about building the society in which everyone can have a bass start in life, which will give in that an equal opportunity. if there was some people that said, okay, that's on the list, it feel young, you don't understand the way the world. what. what would you say? it's very stable. i say that we just need to reframe all kind of narrative around history. the comment perspective that we study is the fun, is kind of through the lens and the path. when we actually look at s t that the moments where regular people have bonded together and can it's even though the government codes have stopped, many counselor states have funding since 2010 up to 1000 youth centers have been shut down. so many young people,
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life is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous. tell me more like helps those who had been impacted by buttons the a spaces, the grandpa to state needs grew up there. right. this is barbara. could you just tell me a little bit about what was going not pay that 1st made you want to be black in your community? part of it is the issues that we experienced here from such a young age, living in poverty, see and injustice experiencing injustice. i'm being exposed to such extreme violence and when i was i need to steve my next door neighbor, my child, his friend marvin. he was on killed a month before his 18th birthday. i'm so yeah, that was destiny of customers for me to one to one on the found housing because i couldn't even have turned in our society about to work with in my community to
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support people who are experiencing things. i know people should, i should be a vast experience, especially children there in the front does. could you just explain to me a little bit about the services that you provide? the young people, for, from is on a mission to empower young people in communities to fight for just this piece on freedom. and we support young people who have experienced violence to create change in their own lives, in our community and society. and so it's about community empowerment, it's about lifting young people to be able to 5 and not just survive. you've also got a background in or you can create a know a degree. how much do you feel that has impacted your work in that community and awareness of the situations that people come off again? when i went to university and i was studying all,
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that's when i 1st realized how detached the legal system of the study of the legal system is from the reality. i had an experience where in one lecture, when we were learning about families not fighting for justice to that loved ones, time being and cost of a whole things that they haven't done. what we're talking about is directly affected my community and the future lawyer. as i've seen around really couldn't care about it or we lost, i wouldn't nothing to do to our system from the inside. don't get me wrong. i respect people that do that. we have some amazing noise that we work with and i think we do need those people. i just didn't want to be one of them before i could do more from the outside, the work you do, what you see is very kind of emotional is personal. what kind of toll has it taken on you being engaged in that face today? this work come bring on over to an fulfillment box. i can't take away from the fact
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that it's really hard to bear witness to people's pain or 14 young people, process based experiences. i feel proud that they didn't have to do that. and then about we're experiencing those things as a community connectivity we're experiencing to careful and in that sense, as long as that injustice. and what of this payment full amount that's happening, there's no way to not be impacted. so the total would take from me is the totaled i take from everybody in 2012 as part of a method to reduce cline the government commission to study that looked into the background of prison is it found that 63 percent of the inmate surveyed had been eva temporarily permanently excluded from school. the link between abide education and future incarceration is so distinct that it is known as the school to prison pipeline.
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to meet the project on the full front project, work specifically with young people that have been excluded. how important do you think it is to engage with young people who are being excluded from schools? when you marginalize on people from education has passed time, they will experience exclusion from society. and i think that has a knock on effect and how they perceive themselves and how they perceive the world and how that will be afraid, well, for and on from that many schools, very disciplinarian and punitive, and same young people up for imprisonment set and young people because outside of just school exclusions, which catalog and attention, i think there's a whole spectrum not even happening in the schools before people. i'm excluded permanently under the new legislation that they are trying to introduce them to police cause crime sentencing bill. they run to not secure schools that are
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supposedly schools web security rather than presents with education. that is not even a school, it's because of the pipeline anymore. we just skip the pipeline that went straight to the prism and it's not just about staying in school is also about what you've done and what's in the curriculum. and as you need some really focused on this, um, you know, specific needs. so it's about whitewashing of the curriculum. how do you think that links to the program the young people can make it seem like a fundamental part of education? is he in study any topic from a sound perspective? and i think currently we have a very, you're essentially perspective with clues these payments on fundamental role, these kinds of paid in things like empire colonialism and slavery. and if we kind of look on narrative around the past, this idea of the, essentially, these things were ended by a kind of mo, revelation on mobile development in the u. k. on a cost you up and of course they kind of less than weld. but when we actually look
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at the, the haitian of the nation as an example of it, of a historical event, which is the only of a successful revolution in which a wall is most profitable. calling in haiti essentially over to and in savory, not pay the pivotal role and shifting the tide towards evolution. but if you look at the way the economy presented in the curriculum is essentially around this idea of moral development and the k. i think that has an impact on the way that we perceive social change, the date, because the kind of lens that we study the past in school undermines the importance in terms of then the own time, historical narrative that movements are paid. and that means that we're on the emphasize the role that we can pay as movements to date and time. you'll coming this a few years further down the line is obviously graduated and, and been 3 days vacation system looking back. was there anything that you think was missing in the education system? i think for me, history was a subject. so i was very passionate about. i really enjoyed the civil rights
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movement in america was one of my favorite subjects at the time, leaving school i. so, and i knew nothing about the movement in this country. i'm learning everything that's happening in america. the, i have no idea about one of the black liberation organizing that was happening in this country. i'm way before i was born. i'm gonna continue to happen way also. i type i so why it wasn't like being full about my own history in this country is something that i can connect with and relate to. and that's gonna build my understanding of the world. i'm living name of the society, i'm living and that's something that i really would have value and they gave me wrong. i think international some authority is really important. so i'm glad i got that understanding of what was happening abroad about it shouldn't have come at the expense of learning anything about what was happening in this country. in the year ending march 2020. there were around 46000 recorded offences involving
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a nice and in london. the metropolitan police is born that 2021 is on track to being the last year of teenage kennings in more than a decade. as a response, the routing conservative party has called for the police to be given quite to powers while many john list and the british media is a gun label without factoring in the all the reasons that lead to this slide and tell me you've spoken about the importance of the distinction between the time don, coach, i need finance. why do you think it's time for that? that distinction is understood, developing an understanding of how particular labels are used to 5 of mountain lies . and ostracized particular groups. the what garden in this country has become synonymous with black youth, a white one with us. that is a question of why, what really is a guy. i mean, when you look at the legal definition,
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football hooligans, they could be a guided by the legal definition of various groups of people that could fit the destination of the gun. but the web guy has never used to naples them. and there's various research and studies, for example, one by called is university. that shows that across a section of some media that they studied. 62 percent of the time when a label was being used to describe black e black men and black boys in particular. it was the guy label and i think is really the store in the root cause is of the issues of violence, nothing. and on. do you have yeah, yeah, i agree. you have to think about the fundamental drivers and of some of which is basically like social, economic and inequality. and how that is the cause, advise that young black man up to take, he presented as being like a model. and i think that connects to the stereotype and we just need to essentially read those who impala of the responsibility. do they have been creating the social conditions for this wise?
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because it's not like, like the economic inequality. they exist in our communities because of the stubs, the d, funding of, of education, the lack of inclusive career. him, he's a little decision being made by people impala. and so the use of stereotypes and this perceptions as a way of attention distancing themselves from how their policies have caused the social conditions and drive this wise, the gang label. to me that as an example of how upset and labels certain approaches all established to deny people that route to access the resources and support that they require to to. so many young people die themselves. how, you know, perpetuate violence against all the young people themselves have also been victims multiple times for p, victimization, and says, is the cycle of victimization, not heating, victimization, not having. got to be fat. if there is no like can protect you, if there's no one that can prevent that harmless, stopped at home or support you also,
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you've experienced tom. why wouldn't young people take them as into their own hands? and that's something that doesn't get enough attention to something that i've has a lot was reporting on on the fine is, is that the young men feel unsafe and they don't feel like there is anybody that's going to come and help them. they don't feel like they trust the police, right. i as in could you think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u. k? i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why to use safety? because a way that a lot of politicians talk about is like next slide mysteries with as many police offices and outside safety for who. because actually, if we look at those in our communities who are risk of having an active violence committed against the nissan, not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims of then looking at them in a very that time lens of suspicion of all you about to commit crimes that so is that the way that the police interacting with people is not from a position of necessarily trying to look out for them?
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it's often from a perspective of kind of suspicion and i think blinks about something that's really important to say is talking about. we want to move away from a punitive system doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just wanna make that fit because it's really important to actually know that the system we have there is no incentive for accountability. we have an adversarial court system where because of was at stake i, there's no incentive for me to say i did this. i hum this pass and i'm and i want to make amends. i one of the pads at home. why would anybody i know just talking about extreme cases where people have been killed. i'm talking about right the way down to more i'm trivial matters, but i dealt with 3 the quotes, there is no incentive. so actually the society that we have from memorial point of view is reading the interested entries, accountability, see responsibilities? one of the things i think isn't for us to invest is a whole me content just debate around at drill music and you know that there was an
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argument that plan rises finance and that it perpetuates fine and um, but i wanted to hear what you guys think about your music, specifically. this is an h o debate in relation to trying to regulate, so press on cents a block, awful black music. well, you have to understand this about for maybe the 1st time in communities that have been economically completely marginalized abandoned here. now comes over a pos way for some means of material success. for young people that have been excluded from other forms of income generation. so people's material needs are not being met. i'm had comes a way that people can come do that. and the chief, i think, what do you think about this as the kind of jo, music to pots the, the right way in our society. because he went in to him by issues of violence as an all the one of those handy destructions by which they can kind of distance
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themselves from the direct control and creating the conditions in which violence happens. because where have you ever seen the argument that any of the forms genre that has bind living side punk of what drives people to violent? i guess if it was a new cap or kind of map out was the thing we said driving by that is how society and this assertion inequality is a school exclusion that's only all the issues. but how is it new rigs in a song that supposing you're going to be driving the devices and this doesn't make sense? do you know, they know that there is an argument, right? that what you're talking about punk, or if you're talking about these on the forms of with as a bar, the music, right. the difference is that with some jo, music has been specific references to real life cases of mode is of happened. people are, you know, basically using a song to say, we killed this past and this is how we did it. and that's different to punk music. i think this day as me, somebody, somebody said about that. but there's also, like we just have to look and the fact that these young people is next of
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a phonetic of that lived experience. but we need to ask ourselves, how, as a society, always creating a situation in which these kind of know what's happening, what does it reflect about us? and the way that our society is being rides, obviously points out there's a phone rings or problems that we need to tackle. there is a lot of focus on the vitamins in the lyrics of the songs. but if you listen to artists like dave or stones, you know, these mainstream people are speaking, there are a lot lyrics that talk about the mental health effects that these lift experiences had and people, and for some reason those things don't really seem to come through. yeah, i don't think if, if it's the narrative enough to hold on, one of my favorite songs of dave is actually cold. panic attack on it from like his fast a p p. and i just fell nearest by reading this. and i think there's a lot of music that is reading, documenting what young people are experiencing, the kind of life that they have to live,
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how they have to navigate their own safety, their own pass, and had that rights. i'm to dignity and respect on the told about takes mentally i'm it just was perfectly and calculated for me in, in that song that, that's of a song by example as well. i think if people are so concerned about drew, they should be horrified about people having those lift experience i was actually and said, why are we not more interested in that in 2017. a fire broke out in grenville tyler, a residential building that provided social housing in london. 72 people lost their lives a late too much that the fire spread so rapidly because greenfield exterior insulation is cutting, was highly flammable. and that when the building was renovated the year before, to improve its external appearance management to use the flammable cuttings because it was cheap. we didn't have this conversation without
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mentioning glenn, so it's become a massive symbol of social inequality and injustice in the u. k. what do you feel like it represents the old generation? what happened at greenville? atalla sums up everything that's wrong with the way the society currently is. if you look at the way that there was systemic racism in terms of who actually died, most of the people were black and brown. if we look at the fact that this would have happened in a richer community. if we look at the fact that people have been repeatedly warned about the, the danger of this building and the fact that none of the people who involved and what happening, where from time to face. and it just shows what is so fundamentally wrong with us side to the west of massaging young people for non violent drug possession and putting them in prison. but you can get away with having 2 people losing their lives in a fire. what does that tell us? about the way the society is one. i feel hot burton, like most people about what happened. i gram file and i think for me it
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symbolizes the neglect the abandonment. and that's something that resonates with me a lot because i come from a community. i'm my state again neglected abandoned and left to roll under to be a to me when folks speak to that because it's more important for this, i sort of a blog to look pretty for that of a wealthy people that live near it. then it is for people to have the right to be safe in their own home. it's really interesting speech, basically at the same time because there were lots of either lots of what you'll say. but tell me, you said to me the other day that no one's coming to save us, we're gonna have to do this for ourselves. say your position slightly outside the system and your thinking of possibly pursuing a career and politics, right. and trying to effect change from inside the system. why do you still have like s face in the system and also owns this things we've spoken about. if we look,
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i don't know the way that log issues and politics and talked about now it's people outside of the system who shape the way that politics interact with society. because they kind of, if we look at like, and racial justice, the ideas around transformative justice, these ideas that politicians are putting forward these ideas at community activities and all the people putting forward. and this is not necessary that we can. so when you need the change, but it's how can that be? and these people who are within the system who are receptive to these different visions of society. and i think what i want to see in politics is a kind of generational shift which my generation can try. we design and we shape the system. because just as that was set of people made the system this way. so can that be, i think it's the people who can probably make it work for the vast majority of people in this country. following on from that point in time, in the back of what you said to me and how do you feel looking at the system more
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generally, i respect i found the decision if he wants to go with it and i feel with that we need to move towards a political system where we have people that represent task people of the people of the community from the community for the community. and unfortunately, but we look file politicians vows just not the case. so if we can have young people, like i say, i'm feeling the maker transformed our system to be where we can actually have that representation. then i think that is, you know, a wife while i'm bishop, to, to have pass and me, i wouldn't want to do that myself. i want to empower people on the ground. and i think that the 2 can what hand in hand, but that's my focus. when i look back on my life, i want to say this is how i invested my energy because we have limited energy. we have limited time results. and so that's my decision of how i want it to use my own time and results to try and create impacts and create a as well as inside watching these conversations, which is positive, you know,
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