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social change from man's impact on the planet to the impact of mine on himself that he has with depression. and it's really i to give you cellphone the witness award winning films from around on out to 0, the high welcome to the stream. i'm not going to have a dean filling in for me. ok, today we're discussing a new documentary by our colleagues at a day plus one day and have run. the film follows out there as being a to inquiry as he travels back to the old city where her father grew up. let's take a quick look at the trailer, the. this is what i experienced
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noticed after settings wouldn't be my family's hometown or the we literally just got here. we went through the 1st military tech points and a bunch of soldiers stopped. us, started yelling at us. i'm in the old city of hebron and they occupied westbank a place and that one's muscle of life. but i'm about to see what israel's occupation and settlers have done to the heart of this city. and so the people who really i'm a palestinian american journalist and i spend much of my career reporting on the occupied territory, but had won one of the west banks and largest cities is also my route. my father was born and raised here. i've returned to learn how the occupation has designated has pro love at home the place he hasn't been back to in years. that makes really
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what i know. it's really hard for him to most of it for me, the job, but it's discuss how have ron and post indians more broadly are impacted by israel's occupation. were joined by a few of the people who worked on the film. joining us from san francisco. it's dina tech brewery senior presenter at a plus and co author of they called me a linus, palestinian girls fight for freedom and then occupied east jerusalem filmmaker and cameron. then i'm a boot, i'm lewis. and last but not least with us from tel aviv or a divide, the advocacy director at breaking the silence. we want to of course include your thoughts on this show. so be sure to share your questions and comments right here in our youtube chat and the part of the conversation. i want to get straight to a deena, so many questions for you. i'm curious, 1st off, how did the idea to work on this documentary come about it's,
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it's much more personal than your other work or your, you know, the work i'm familiar with and for me it really hit differently because of that. yeah, let's as well, thanks. i from that it's good to be here and it's good to see or, and a man and a less tense, a environments. and i was planning, you know, as you heard in the trailer, i have reported from the occupied westbank several times throughout my career. and it's also where most of my family lives. and so i knew i would be taking a trip or this summer. and i was sort of brainstorming with my produce some comments i seen. and he came up with the idea of, you know, year from have ron, i'm actually from have it on both sides, mother and father. so my dad grew up there and lived there the longest. and so the idea came about to go there to visit, have gone to retrace my father's footsteps and to tell the story of the occupation there and a very sort of discovery and personal way. um, you know, we say later in the film that my dad can't really return and i also wanted to, to honor him and to sort of give this as a sort of
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a contribution to my family lineage and to my ancestors. and you know, it's, it's interesting i'm, and i've also worked with you in palestine. i'm curious, working with dean on such a personal project for you reporting and working their day in day out. what was it like for you to be part of that process? actually assistance was i asked months by everyone. yeah. i watch video before the class and i enjoy it. it was definitely when we started to say like when we wanted to go to keep going and i know it's not even motion for here. so it's nice. we feel like i'm on boss in just the story. i need to to get there as a spontaneous it should then yeah, like i didn't know it was not because i'm an insurance, something person and like had a child who on the side of hometown, which is nice to see the miles it. so yeah, it was a motion for me doing about this would be a like it because it was, you know,
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and to be honest, i was stuff because when i started from being used by the, you know, be we, we want to be like thank you coffee to be in a place actually in the festive club. i searched with the i stick my mood that we and i feel like i can continue understand because i just started with stuff on a from your part is deleted. i've called the police, i okay guys. come down here. you're talking about the interactions with israeli soldiers. correct? yeah, exactly. yeah, and i want to talk to mike because i want to talk more about it. i literally just started rolling and we got pounced on and surrounded and swarmed and it really set the tone for the rest of the day. and a man really bore the brunt of the harassment that day. and i like apologize to him so many times and thank to him. but if there's something to say about how targeted cameras are by the by there's really military. right. and i hope we can discuss that more because even at the top of the show, i mean of the trailer that we played for our audience. i mean, that was a parent or a on that note. i mean, you've served in the military there in israel,
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and i want to ask you now that you're giving these guided tours in hebron. i know this is part of your job with breaking the silence. tell us why you do that and, and what it was like for you to be part of this project. so very basically break the silence of the room a former soldiers like me. we. busy serving the quite very or different, different times and different places. and all we all share in common is if i understand that we must expose these, we always go with the probation of what it means to control. the thing is the way we do and what it includes. true and the testimonies of our own service. yeah, we already did it. we already took part in it. and now and then being able to do, we can do is talk about this reality process. and this is the, the why don't we do that for the headboard? yeah, the manual mode, this, the fire server you have on our server and even headline you can see very clearly
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the different types of elements, the control of the patient. and i will say that specifically the project with united today we spent together several was a different and then the usual and towards the guy. and i also today just came back from petra and body with the nice exhibit defense because it's very rare for me never happened and feel that to it was in the sleep of everyone we uh eh, do you know the dns family is from hebron? yeah. and who would now live somewhere else? so how do we strong ties to each land and where it pushed away from it? and that was a very special moment for me and also for me, where father's already the building global. so, unique and i go, i'm glad you brought up her father. do you know i've met your father and i have to say, you know, on a personal note, i'm a real tender guy. he can be and you know,
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when i was watching the documentary, i was definitely struck by, by this part of the film. let's share it with our audience. now. come back to you. take a look. a hi barbara. good morning. how are you? oh, i'm fine. i want to show you, i think this is where you grew up is this is true of asleep sitting here and so sad. do you know? i know how proud your dad is of you're a journalist, take work and just all you've accomplished but, but that moment you're walking there and knowing he can't be there. what was it like for you? oh man, if you played another 30 seconds, you see me crying because
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a man asked how does this feel free to do, you know? and it was very emotional. i mean there's, there's guilt, there's side miss on has, you know, facade this for him, where i was standing right? there was a street where no palestinians are allowed to walk. even if they live on that street. they have to exit their homes and enter through a back entrance. and so technically, by virtue of me being posting in america, i wasn't even supposed to be there. but i was literally standing 10 feet away or less. that's the cemetery where his parents are buried. you know where my grand parents are. my ancestors are and right above the cemetery is the house he grew up in and just to see, you know, to think of like the memories he told me about how vibrant it was, how he used to carry a basket down there and go to the vegetable store and buy for you know, fruit and walk back home. his middle school was on that street. it used to be like, you know, a super busy center of house and in life. and it's an absolute ghost town. and the only sounds you hear the fluttering of his really flags above the only people you see are some settlers and some armed soldiers. it's just,
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it's devastated. you know, and that, and i was really sad for him. so it was, it was quite an emotionally charged moment, which a men caught onto and asked me about on camera. i'm is good at that and i'm and i, you know, when you ask dina about that, i'm curious your experience particularly since it's very soldiers killed, shooting a block like being seen from afar. i haven't been there for several years now, but it seems as though it's harder to work as a journalist, it seems as though the occupation is more entrenched. what can you share with us and about what it was like? trying to report this story. like the sudden the palestine showed anyone. it's something great. it sounds like you need to think twice with it, but you've been, i'm just wanting to buy this thing and the other the being here and you know, it's hard for me. you, especially when, you know, there's one of those when you are in the country that the, the claim that the out of the country in the middle east. actually the saved for
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everyone to state your question. but for me as someone who has been living here for more than happy to use, i know this democracy, it's fake when it's come to a lot of high meetings and, and what's the key for them? we just want to show what's the life of these people. so it's, it's become like the video you're talking about, but i, i want to ask you the and the civically sorry for giving me after 3. and as you were just about to say, i mean hasn't gotten harder for you, your perception of your ability to move to report. do you feel more targeted? our soldiers harassing you more are more areas off limits. are actually yes. a subsidy in windows like i feel like whenever they want to go, especially when they go through westbank. sometimes i see i, i will not go back to my house id, but if i lived in a home and with the truck, i sent everything like this and i'm coming up there. so i feel that i might be
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going back to my house because of what's happening to city and they feel it's it's really hard to deal, especially with. so just like i can't tell these people, they don't see anyone like almost done by this thing. i'm out for now, one of what i do on the do i have on this kind of like this to come through as that and by this time i see nothing wrong. anyone. if i see from like kind of an i'm a place to be, i need to but it's doing and i'm just trying to see i'm what i see is what i owe to the people. this is my job, most are, and most certainly, and i, i saw that dana and also, or you were both nodding is you were outlining the reality of what it's like to try to work on the ground. we have a small clip from actually the documentary that kind of illustrates this. let's play it for audience and then i'll come to you already take a look done up some of these last can. i did some stuff that can lead
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time. and then how many did home get family people sold in the event that something's kind of like a menu? a how good morning my husband. as far as i understand it, i've been following breaking the silence for many years now. but when we look at the politics and, and who the is really people are electing that in yahoo, who is found to be a corrupt leader who was, you know, charge and he somehow made it come back. i'm wondering where is this sort of lack of consciousness of sort of the level of de humanize ation that on the individual level, but also collectively they're, they're, they're putting on this population. why in your opinion, to so many soldiers not sort of wake up and break the silence earlier?
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yeah, i think good. and this is one of the core issues of the problems here and or off in the is rarely beside the where i raised our entire life. i've read, you know, times with our days using high school media and education. everything directs us to become a coma, closer to the military. everything directs us and bills of that and we have the most will. i mean, the world guy talking to the people of the say about the, these relatives rather than say about and, and we are not being in car is whatsoever with and more importantly than that. yeah. or maybe better with that. there is also no incentive of today for these riley to look critically of the situation. yeah,
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relatively. yeah. while of course we all have family members, bridgewater victims of immigration as well. and people who died as a result of the depression. relatively speaking, these rays are not affected by your patient. our day to day life is barely affected by the patient. yeah. hold on. it'll be made to develop the night and, and i know full, i appreciate this point for give me i don't mean to interject, but i appreciate this point of same time. let's take another look at a clip that kind of illustrates the way in which you interacted with the soldiers while you were all working on this. come take a look in the night, the 20th, on the
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tell him what 0. some of these are the you know, already i see them pushing you there. and obviously anyone who's worked on the ground or tried to interact with soldiers, i mean, the dehumanizing is immediate an instant. and do you know why that was all happening? i mean, could you give us a little bit more context of, was that at the beginning of the trip, what was going through your mind? did you think that me, i maybe you wouldn't be able to report the story? i, you know, that was literally when we had just arrived, like i'm gonna just started rolling like 30 seconds prior. we're feeling me walking down. that's the 2nd check point. and i was greeting oriend, his colleague, joel and right. as we were saying, hi, how are you? when do you know they came in and they swarmed us and for me like, you know, i had so much anticipation like i had studied the area. i talked to my dad, he drew me maps. i'm visiting my hometown and, and it just got so tainted and you brought up to the novel claire earlier and, you know, she was my friend and she was my colleague and this was just weeks after she was murdered and she was fresh in my mind. i cannot look at and is really soldier and
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not uniform the same way, you know, and what was it different for you? i mean, i know you've worked there before, you've always come across quite quite stoic in your, in your deliveries and then the way you interact with the soldiers. was it different this time because of, of her loss. i mean, she was perhaps, as we all know, maybe one of the most relentless and persistent reporters on this issue in depicting daily life under occupation. so it was different for you to know this time. yeah, a 100 percent. i mean, even a, you know, in 2018 i met and i were reporting, we weren't doing anything and they threw stun grenades. honest, i've never been under the delusion that being a journalist will somehow protect to me. but when you see how it should be in a block that was murdered in cold blood, despite wearing a helmet and press best marked press despite being a us citizen. and that moment you know, i'm thinking my us passports, not protecting me. the cameras not protecting me, and even in that same location where we were just a few weeks prior,
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another policy, an american journalist named how yes me and was also detained by soldiers there while she was filming her show. she was take and she was strip searched in front of her mother, you know, for no reason. and they have the one of the soldiers had the bite of his rifle in her mother's stomach. while she was being strict search. i told already, i don't know what would have happened if you guys weren't there. you know, if i didn't have to former israeli soldiers there to protect me in my hometown. so there was a lot of feelings and there was a lot of um, thinking about shipping and thinking about how these guys can do anything. they want them to unity with the backing of the and i, i think that the use of the human i mentioned not one of these is need to understand this together with the issue of the fact that eh, the, the israel and the patient is the greek everything it can we get, you know, the highest 3 all yeah. the sierra them in the year, the one of the this year, the last 2 decades of probably not being billed by the,
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by these rarely meet there. yeah. and the, it's not the 1st series that is a is why don't those terrible have dealings out doing that to is doing and, and where does seeing the situation grow? yeah. marble. the thing is, i'm more sensitive i it is more home demolition. more home invasions the situation is only because it's worth it is more jerry, dwayne morris, gary 4, and of course what 1st and foremost for police. and those are also for the organizations for the activities it's becoming and more difficult as well. and i know that you feature soldiers who are anonymous most of the time, it's not all the time. and i understand because of the fear of retribution you can comically and, but i wonder without breaking the silence and, and going public and being visible. and, and i think so much of what i've heard is that there's, there's like sort of, um, there's no incentive because they don't see the occupation. it doesn't affect their lives there in israel. so i wonder with all that said, i mean, you know,
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our colleagues sitting when she was killed, we saw a complete lack of accountability, the same themes are discussing impunity. now 6, very long months later we've seen the f. b, i in the us announcing that they're going to launch an investigation. i kind of want to ask you all this. i mean, we've since then heard the white house informing is really counterparts that they weren't involved in the decision to open this investigation. you know, kind of backtracking away from it. you know, this lack of accountability. do you have any hope? i'm not just on the issue of sitting, but i'm, and do you have hope and where do you draw hope from that there will be accountability for each life loss, but also for the broader issues that, that you'd have picked in this document documentary are happening. i like actually i feel does this strongly, no one comes on just they just do about their life and they always say that we
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follow the know which is not true. like the all of the say that with respect i'll let him know. actually there were all those that deal with the most is oh, when they have how i need, by the state of the house that i understand the say like security and the expense goes good. so i, i don't feel like i went when i went to jeanine last time to see like where it was shit in with what does it tell me? how much it's, it's really obvious. anyone will come through. you need, like, anyone that will have to interest to get together. you know, so that's the sort of just these, the g. i'm with the number of shooting when they claim that the price daniel choose on the eviction of city the school. and that is to build into that sound like i went down to the point of views just like i can see anything like what a city i used to be a 15 s only. there is a military team and so thing on had
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a direction. i don't like it's obvious and i don't think anyone was investigation to and then, and i think what is the city? i think what so maddening is despite this, as you say, obvious facts on the ground, we still see time and time again. the ability to act with impunity and it's, you know, in the documentary just to bring it back to your work. do you know, i wanna, i want to share with their audience a clip of a conversation you had with said it was a young girl there. take a look. and then we'll come back to the the, the, the
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the copy of that in the interesting you know, on a personal note, what's always so troubling for me and difficult to process when i see these sorts of videos either in your work or on social media is the way that the occupation is rarely soldiers treat or the human eye palestinian children, whether abusing them interrogating them, torturing them, whatever it might be. do you know, watching this and being there and bearing witness if you will, seeing the father have to restrain himself? what was that like, i mean, just especially since the impetus of this trip was you kind of coming back to connect with your father's hometown? exactly. i mean i haven't stopped thinking about cello us since the day we met her . and i exactly had that same thought that this could have been my life as a little house to me and girlfriend hebron. and that could have been my father. i
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mean this poor child and her siblings are so traumatized. they were accused of playing with a knife right in front of their house, even though there's cameras surrounding them, proving the contrary. but because of settler went and told the soldier, she had a nice, they believed him and they arrested her as we were standing there talking. you know, it's such a tense situation because their house is, you know, right above them isn't as really settlement. they're surrounded by these illegal is rarely settlers. there are nets above that alley way to catch the stones and the trash and the sometimes you're in that settlers throw down at them. so every little sound we hear, she looks up. and i ask her, are you afraid that they're going to throw something out you? and she said yes, because it happened so much just a week prior. her 5 year old brother was hit by a rock right here and his face swelled up from a settler. and she told me, you know, we look at the settler kids, we can see them playing with their toys every single day. and we want to go out and play like that. yeah. and this just shows you the innocence of children. her brother said why, let's go, let's go joining them. and she said, we can't join them this. i'm not, i'm not, unfortunately,
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do not. i appreciate you sharing those thoughts so we can continue this conversation now live on air. we've run out of time, but it's an incredible documentary for those of you haven't seen it. check it out. thank you to our guest. the now i'm on an or a certainly not the last time we'll be talking about this here at the stream. be sure to take a look at the documentary and let us know what you think the, the, the stories of hope and inspiration show a document to ease from around the world. that celebrates culture and resilience in
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