can still get to the next phase slope pulling steepest up to pop up on face the media and the challenges. but this whole region helped me so much get all of the media, all the fading and everything and go back to reality. wendy's money. you have to be careful, money change, people, generation flows on out to 0, dominion as a verizon or accusing each other, updating truths that boatright rates, pensions been rising in the dispute, say that, and they're going up higher, backwards. and why is this a concern? now? what's the role of foreign powers? this is insights towards the hello and welcome to the program and the wrong con, the kale take and rapid collapse of the soviet union. more than 30 years ago, left some unresolved and complex political disputes. one between as the bodies of

on and armenia over then go to a camera by region. has seen thousands of people killed or injured in conflict since those times and off to a brief but bloody will less than 3 years ago. tensions escalating once again. so why is this happening now and where might lead? what role russia the u. s. e u and 30 are playing in this dispute? we'll discuss all of this with, i guess, surely. but 1st, this report from sarah hart, the skirmishes that broke counts again between us or by john and armenia. earlier this month, killing and injuring soldiers have escalated with both sides, accusing each other of a minute tree builds up out the border. that's despite the commitment to a peace process and land dropped nego, no car box, a whole shop. what fun thoughts come from a call from the military political situation and our region has seriously deteriorated in the past week. and that's because everybody's gone, has been amassing troops for several days along the contact line between the garner

car of boston and the armenian either by johnny border. but as or by john, insist on media is the instigator, said of media steel does know demonstrate goodwill. and fails to take a constructive position. instead, the media side is playing a game of delay and confusion going on, caught a ball, has a mountainous region with a 95 percent ethnic armenian population lives within. as or by john's territory. it's recognized internationally as positive as i by john, but it's controlled by ethnic on union forces. the former soviet republics have full to was the control of this region. 60 a conflict that ended with a c spot in 1994. then again in 2020. when more than 5000 people were killed, while the russian guy could see, so i ended that war and all media was forced to give up much of the lines that controlled tensions have continued to simmer. armenia says michel know car about

has been on the brocade since december accusing as our by john of cutting off. it's a $120000.00 residents. as everybody's on says, it does allow supplies in bots, maintains the enclaves only direct fruits on media. the launch and cargo has been used to smuggle weapons last week for us called the humanitarian situation that deeply concerning with people unable to access food easily. russia has called for aid to be allowed in, or would you simply say congress as we action within the framework of the trilateral agreements by the leaders of russia as a by sean and armenia in 2020 to 2022. we start on handed access to humanitarian aid, into the region. we call an old sites to refrain from on necessarily politicizing this matter. now, corner car box is the focal point of complex and shifting geo political alliances involving the us russia to get on the you. so fall international efforts to find

the last thing solution. having succeeded in resolving this decades long conflict sort of hired on the inside story the, let's bring it out, get feedback is if i read a shot, the f chapman at the center of analysis of international relations and a former as a by jani, an ambassador to canada and concluded massachusetts, i know honey and professor of international relations at stern hill college and the old of the neighborhood effect. the imperial roots of regional fracture in your asia and invalid and spin are as found and edison chief of b and e in telling use a business media company focusing on emerging market spends also the photo moscow bureau chief from the daily telegraph aware. busy welcome to you. oh, i'd like to begin in baku with afraid now afraid, we've already seen the accusation in the counter accusation coming from as an adviser on an amelia. but there was at one point a piece process and it seemed to

be working. why has that seemingly broken down? a couple of reasons seen did research what positive development, i'm fine with them. you know, after so many years, i know you are meeting the president. nicole pushing now well previously said that they cut off uh is our medium finally share knowledge. that's carl watkins, part of positive by john as it's international. recognize. and both countries worked on the draft of the peace agreement. but then the things get worse, but it's turn situation in the, on the ground. let us do uh, illegal tubes on the bunch of students on it and kind of a regional positive by john. i think the some external forces also gave a negative influence. rush from the blinks, kind of donald roll up. one hand, it's the peacekeeping forces deployed. there are,

on the other hand, your access to wants to control the, the whole solid works is both countries. so we're looking for some level to adjust . and what are some external forces i believe come just like france, we are more bending to demand from the private go elements so far. meaning they asked for a um, so we hire interfering can to negotiation process and keeping one side statements to support the media, which is not conducive to the piece. so that's my opinion why it will show up. destination on that. all right, let me bring in a, hey, i know we've got several players in this conflict on auto media. the aren't as a by john, we gold rush or the u. s. b, e, u, and book it. now, all of those have differing agendas and seemingly were broken down piece process once again. i mean that there rolls on. helpful right now. thank

you very much for the invitation. as too far you to go to the comments. i do think that obviously your political lenses, importance, but at the same time, i would not minimize the agency and the role of local actors, armenia as i was there by john, but the per to jeweler simply because it won the war in 2020. so these peoria is a very proud guy. postwar process, these are fragile. they either leads to the next oracle, consolidate the fragile piece. emerging as victoria's, azerbaijan essentially won the war, but the president l. e a is struggling to win the peace. we, the peace process has been russia obviously does play a role, but other by john has been pulling the in the rock from much more than a quarter of otherwise the western piece track has been moving time to

the peace process institutionalizing by protecting the minorities as opposed to simply getting rid of the rights of the new price of the car, of a hard mediums which are international were recognized as part of browser about john . and just to provide a little bit more a context in terms of big data since 19 seventies. the number of accident conflicts has been going down, and the research is connected to the increase the willingness of states to accommodate provide rights in the cases about to make the call like up. but what do you think of that statement? impression young is struggling to win the piece that makes sense to it. i mean it was comprehensively defeated, minutes early in the, in the war in 2020 and you know, the time has been so i think is,

oh well the economy's been booming. ever since it was hooked up to a pipeline that matched that as well as the international markets. and it spends a lot of money on it. good stuff at the same time. it to go to that at these drones . drones were seeing ukraine, you know, they asked about chinese were the ones at pioneer and use them to devastate seeing effect during the comfort. and so passion is on his back foot now. um then it's early. it is week, tons of pen service rates. and when the war and he's costing around now for a solution and there was a punch right outside ceasefire agreement, broken by russia between as a media. but that hasn't been working. i'm, as my colleagues, is suggesting that the russians haven't really steps up to their responsibilities. because under the c s t, all of this, the collective security or the treatment agreements that they have. master is supposed to be the guarantor of the peace and security in the region, and it hasn't really managed to do that. they survey and destructive increasingly

by your brain recently. um, but it didn't do a very good job of bringing the most annual growth going investing ceasefire. and so now you have this very tense situation with as a bush on is looking the election car the, the on the roof out of the kind of back to media. and the area is predominantly populated by armenians. and i think this is the roost. the problem that seem that everyone's agrees that the, that, that's our treatment going to kind of a is a, as a, has been since recognized from the beginning, but is overwhelming the populated by all means. and that's the problem, i think, as it goes on is, is trying to push those people actually like take it under as full control. but the still there, and this by hey, it is a little that swayed in the left was to go. awards afraid? uh, chevy of actually said was that russia was playing a double game when it came to the kind of back that's kind of been, it's right, reiterated by ben as well as russian may have been playing a double game,

but distracted certainly by perhaps ukraine is russia still the piece broke of the we need it to be. i do agree with various comments, the restaurant might be playing the game before i attend to the let me just add a particular point. i do nice thing the of the, the condition again, the emerging cause, victoria, there is a mix of other jobs and also we're offering an alternative to an order for you or did you d p per capita. you know that by john is right now the lowest thing, the solid cost us is. so i do think that's the way this costs will be resolved. whether or not the car box, as i mentioned to you will be provided right or not. this is a very large book at the heart of the political identity of the other by johnny state. so that's a little bit on the up in regards to russia. russia's policy in managing complex before the warranty really has been just private by researchers,

a wheelchair and conflict attitude. meaning there is of this nature as to how russia gets involved and mediate. and several of my books have been focused on this . i do agree that the restaurant is playing the double game. yeah, i do know if it's, uh, it's not. i don't think it is distracted by the warning ukraine. i think that the visa says over us to maintain garage has capacity rocks like historically has been playing multiple roles in various theaters around bass, territory, and duration continent. i do think that russia by no means women take the very of women instead of you bush age and then the war by essentially pushing back against was a gauge transparency. that's one way of attacking the global system. so the world's baseball daughter. so i think the roster is playing games and watching core 8 or the below teeth in particular,

which is in that agreement which russia is not a is not protecting. the opening of the watching cory door is also has been issued a ruling by the international court of justice watching court, or is the lynched pin to a piece of process that can be institutionalized. that's kind of would piece research to describe the quality piece that can provide predictability transparency, security and dignity to the new group. so why don't new one have? this is a mass that you, many charity in crisis located subject community to remember. but from the political perspective box, who is using that as a way to avoid political accommodation with the not born a carmel, which has enjoyed sold governors since 1920, when it was part of the soviet republic, because they're about them. let me bring in for a to is a back who avoid doing political accommodation deliberately, you know,

it's the conceptual things. first of all, when we're speaking about our unilaterally arrives and security so part of mediums in colorado or elsewhere, we should also speak about right. and secure jump positive budget is and remember that the, the whole lot of mean it was if you click leads for almost the budget is not going to armenia, but the currently even the, to the thought of which is on them. comfortable for actually peacekeepers, so that is not as important as a single left there. so i mean, it's got or told them in as the budget offered during the years of the completion highest degree or for the reformed meals within the budget on. but it's over declined. so uh no, is there by john offering the reintegration or to renounce in to others by chance jurisdiction. i have to make comments because to all right, we'll look so the ball and luncheon corner door, we should remember the luncheon is the 1st page in outside of my garment, colorado which was a combined in 1992 and from the patient. it allows our maintenance to attack from

both directions already. joseph answered by john and uncle by then a selection. is there roads not only for one at diane, but also works for military or a patient and military supply for me is it's far more important for me as far as there by john to control it. by the way, despite the other bunch of both works to armenia mouth to the war. but let's keep the election open. i will follow to custom, more public control. but the same as the last for uh, from our media to shop route to not to want. if mike bullocks refer to, try not to do agreements which was signed up to the war accessible clauses, they're both launching and also the way from either the budget to enough to or what i mean, i'm sorry, but if you assign what does anybody on duty to establish custom and passport control. and i think from the point of integration, bradford walls, all of this was going on wells. all of this continue to happen. there was

a massive humanitarian crisis unfolding, indigo, know kind of back there on there is no food in many of the supermarkets, a lot of business is all going bus that is happening. so we're currently at point, hey, you need to do something, something needs to happen and nothing seems to be happening. what's the hold of, you know, right? of the others, but don't hold for a totally to fluids as their budget all for the tardy and the hell a to come up on hard meals. but i think it's the insurance agents of kind of a lot of maintenance. and also they would like to show sort of fi optics to the global media that the star didn't come over the it himself, think them you bring it for what is available. earth is available, they should comply and for the jobs i do is diction. been very interesting was it was use as a theatrical of the global media these people on actually solving they just call and come up with the agreement. what do you make of that? well i think you're right. there is

a humanitarian crisis. the people are stuffing the stories coming out of the pictures of the supermarkets empty shows. we had a report the other day of the, one of the mother is childs at dice. as a result of this, the blockade around the region and the french and the, the man of paris was just on the border about 10 days ago with the trucks for this is a couple of 100 times with the food and tried to cross into the, into the enclave into kind of, i was refused by the board of gods. and so there is a deliberate policy there blocking the entrance of this of this humanitarian aid. this supplies that the entire kind of buy relies on that much and card or the supplies of food in order to keep his people fast. and so i think as a pleasure and is just saying hospital here in so much to say lots of things laid in order to push through that list for the agenda by effectively, by force, by starving the population into submission. and that's, you know, that's

a hard lines to take the, the alternatives, i don't think the realistic and at the same time old of the, the gas, the electricity, the connection to the internet has been cut off. and so the region really has been completely isolated from the outside world. and what are the big problems about the indigo in a car of our conflict is the lack of a peace broke of the both sides can agree on russia was almost the best of a bad bunch. nobody could really agree that the us should be involved. and there's nobody really so the you should be involved in this neither side. ben was that, but we're now a stage where perhaps that needs to be an alternative piece broke out with a strong role to play. but can you see one the all sides kind of graham? oh oh oh i'm sorry i got my voice describing i do agree a quick points. i do agree with the benz description of what's going on in allowed

in regards to all of them road. i think that's a local road sooner or later. perhaps it will be opened. we'll be used. i'm assuming as a supplement, north, an alternative collection corridor, but i do want to highlight that present melia is using the of them or i'm sorry, how's it down the road? i have a strategy of a hybrid warfare, meaning using the peace process, coercing a population similar to the gym. does we dial in using mueller, tory for which can be quite costly far for by cool. and that's a problem at a loss to say that could go way if there was a piece process that was actually working. and that's the question i'm asking you. is there a piece for the everybody can agree to, and i think sold are both armenia bend azerbaijan have actually been working the level of diplomatic activity between them has to be non refresher then to they have utilized the russian channel and they have utilized the western

channel the ashton stuff now born acquire the phone buddy vocation table is usually problematic because the piece research data shows that piece process these that are not inclusive to model have a high chance of being implemented as to credible 3rd party on the field as boys. i do think it's a matter of whether we're looking for a russian, a process is obviously itself starting russia. oh, so you play the, you have the still have been able to stop the war but has not stopped the bleeding, but it has not been able to seal the wound so to speak. whether i do think that it is important to move the process for the western track, whether it's the united states, whether it's a western country, whether it's they do you that has been playing an important role. but the you, european powers do have leverage over other by john, which i do think holes

a lot of the charge right now by who has a lot of agency and that respect. i'm finding the november 9 every month now increasingly defined before the election. corey door is blocked, the border opening is not happening. ready right, um, which would creating turn dependencies between the 2 nations are media in azerbaijan, and those are about your own borders. of the are close to traffic, or the open only to cargo as well as stairs wides. so are the only so has postage borders to its neighbors and i'm quite pessimistic that other about john is willing to open the waters. and i mean you had offered to open the border strauser by john to well maximum connectivity between now thereby done the bomb in quite a hurry. let me burn the free. let me bring you in here. and um, there is a problem with the boat as they all show. we do know this, but there's also the fact that we're talking about peace broke and you hear my in

trying to get these board is open and get the goods and trade flying back into the go into a car back. but the russians are being able to do the us has about 85 that troops on the on mean inside making a note, perhaps a honest bro. okay. and the piece process is that a piece broken? that would, you would be satisfied with the armenians would be satisfied with as well. and i would like to highlight this, if you would like to deliver, and when it's out of date, you apply it to the government and the government tell you which way you wanna supply everyone's underneath. that's because to both of my goal is insisted that blatchley is going to go to his blog. i know that a bunch of this month outlines might have done and a been made or friends of paris. she brought the file. it's kind of an issue with the budget and, and again, that is some rules plus applying, but that should be done. we've covered nation, we've sent off or district level as photos of the for the piece process. so it's

very complex, but it's core element is the combination of to the total integrity of the 2 countries. i mean, as it by john, we on the one hand hooks from pushing young positive states and about cheating up nice cut off as part of my job. but the late fee, just few days ago, you sent the code conduct letter a letter to on the occasional circle, the independence of my going to cut off. so it still contradictory statements. so that's why we need to be use a position we need uh, some commitments moving toward piece 3 to based on the national, not just are on the ticket to jump to congress and one point about open border as the budget. and again, i repeat, in 2021, offered armenians to open borders. but i just talked to somebody who was wanting to discuss the luncheon, and we're not discussing the route for the jumped too much while and you've been

a veteran of the region so many, many years. there is no accommodation right now. there's no peace process right now . but we're not looking at another shooting. we'll pull, we're always well, the situation on the border is still on stay, but i mean, the occasional flashes um shooting instance, but i mean i so this thing, the priest but priest piece process. i mean i, what i'm seeing here is that the suicide spencer, in so much is a passion and is, is fed up, is, is frustrated, but he's not making any progress. and the security still the c s t of the night. so the former soviet union to provide was supposed to provide that, but um this week or it will be finished. um this is to uh, holding exercises and it was supposed to happen in uh, in many of this year. but um, you have been refused to hold them and they ended up being moved to 2 minutes,

which was a major step in the face for this collected security deal. and then what's happening, what's about to happen now is that america has been invited to hold ministry x sizes together with um, i mean you for the 1st time, there's going to be some $85.00 uh us troops. uh, and this is clearly designed as a gesture to moscow saying that you're supposed to guarantee the piece you're not doing it. i'm sorry, i'm reaching out to the americans and that maybe all goes on that. right. and he's also talks about maybe, you know, across just leave the books is at the same time my current is going to involve button p m, you know, phone conversation supposed to be pushing in. and because i live in back to just in the beginning of this month, and this is also the, the parents may i getting involved. because francis bruce has a very large jasper of, of medians living there as does america. and so that we are running out of time and we all learning as how many do make a very good point. i want to put this to and it as well, anna,

are you afraid that if something radical doesn't happen very soon, that we all going to see another will in that region? i am very afraid and that's a very good question to pose. um, i think the lack of an institutionalized piece process is problematic. the solve or far a western negotiation track. somebody above who is problem matter, but there is quite a bill that your problem. i understand if i read is mentioning this route and alternatives back with this x, y, z. but the problem is by putting parallel has also been using source since 2020 in both in the car box as well as on you know, media. so i am worried that it, you know, really running out of time and i do, and i think you ought to use, you said it very succinctly. i just went off the exact same question to for read as well fried. are you afraid the will might break out? i don't think the lot scheme of things like war happens because i don't think so.

but smoked on occasions happens all the time. and the most, um, i would say what is some element of that that's to on the bridge instead of the order which i for your legal groups. i want to thank oh i guess the 3 there's half here of and i'll hang in. and then harris and i want to thank you as well for watching see the program any time by visiting our website out. is there a don't come on for further discussion goes well facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash agent insights story. and you can also join the conversation on x, fully known as twitter handle is as a inside story for me and bronchitis, and the entire team hit by for now the the

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