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the a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a couple of questions. what's driving the spring of military coups in africa? and what does it mean for western policy across the continent? let's get to the bottom line. the 7, that's the number of countries in africa where people woke up one day to find that their president was ousted and that their military had taken over. and that's just since 2020, just in the last 3 years, we're talking about molly chad. guinea sued in regina fall. so these year and gap bone, since most of the crews are in former french colonies, francis had the biggest wake up call of all western powers. but the wheels are
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turning in washington as well, especially since russia and china are also big players in the region. so what type of changes across the continent mean for the people in africa and for relations between africa and the west? what note should washington be taking? today we're talking with audi kind of t home for a while. the former ambassador of the african union to the united states and master . it's such a pleasure to be with you again. i've always enjoyed our conversations and learn from them. i just want to ask you in the west when you look at these countries, molly? chad, guinea sudan, burkina faso got bohn, new share. the west looks at this like maybe there's a problem going on here. how do you look at it? that is a serious problem for me. it was for sure. i think the words did not seem to kind of oh and, but it was very naive of the western nations. just saying that the exploitation of africa was going to continue unabated for ever. the west is definitely,
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i may use the word that sometimes they may be dissing it that but because what's happening in africa is indeed the pollution. and the reason that's the way past due . so you see it is a revolution. but what kind of revolution is it in the sense that i do think this is throwing off repression from france, from united states, from other nations. what kind of revolution do you see is underway? what i'd like to thing is i want to use the book on tim, this is the light shit. and revelation among the black people, they are waking up and realizing that what it has been happening is right is right, is wrong, and change, you must come and for georgia is to come. it's much the broad by, by the people what you asked me is, and i can electronic that is now i walk in that is informed the understand the real issues in the past also can have been missing phone,
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misled and given false information and being thrown as shiny object and being told only applicant is of the problem, but now the end of the den, the invisible hand, and the wrong, the invisible hand is plain to make sure that i forgot remains where they weren't. i forgot to beat the applicant, heads of states, particularly those uh heads of states from diploma friends call a needs majority of them. we just puppets put in place to continue this same frequency. i guess it was best selling books to them where it said you have no control of your military. you have no control of your natural resources. you have no control of your finances. and if you continue from those 3 areas, you're afraid to will your country any which way you want. what forward does that prison yet? and in the past, and the president does a try to but the system and do something about taking control of the financial resources. and i'm talking about african countries deposit to the bank reserves
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with friends. i'm talking about african countries giving up their natural resources . nobody addition drugs having said selective refusal for all the natural resources, discovery is yet to be discovered. drug companies, everything 1st, right of refusal on contracts, large small, private, public, around $70000000.00. try to prisons in those countries and friends having been to invent them in the event that they feel the interest of being violated drunk and making sure that those countries can only be drained by from the military. can only be changed by from the uh, the, the equipment to equipment can only be bought from friends. come on now. i want people didn't understand all this. so we can change after getting had those dates in those, i'm afraid you're going to need like, which includes them, does fund a mental, are not addressed? nothing is going to change. the africans now understand when the real problem is
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the real problem, like i always say, the biggest risk to peace and security and after jack is friends, let's make no mistake about that. we have as a former color nice us. yes, they do have a strong hold enough for god to that they have multinational companies that continue to save on billions. i just, i forgot every year. we are way of that. but the biggest problem when it comes to from a physical in is, is friends. it's roads as so in change, in those countries, enough from distract expanding to other nations until we address those agreements. african countries with pose to say nothing. and i mean, nothing we do is going to bring us, did you, economic liberation, which is what africa needs, which is what i think i was denied when in countries were being given their independence when now and didn't with an african loved thread that understand what is really going on in africa?
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well, let me ask you, ambassador. let's take me here for a moment. the president mohammed by zoom is a popular president in the west. you know, the i a mass like them, the world bank liked them, the united states liked them. france seemed to like him. i would like our listeners to understand the gap in the popularity of someone like president by zoom and performance and, and, and what is going on that makes that revolution, that, that clue is, we see it in the share a different story than we're seeing a different phone is that you're talking about is the performance of one of the ship news every minute it was doing defense. education to friends go care to french infrastructure. you tell me why is it that 95 percent of new jersey and uranium is powering over 50 percent of 5 of friends. wow. over 70 percent of
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these yet and has no electricity. how is that? okay. oh, it isn't printing, but zoom out of himself with that 5. there is no development in, in the, in the army. i was in the army a few years ago when we had b. i use, i mean, it was beautiful. this is the level of development that media has that is not development image yet. let's make no mistake about the news yet. it's been before as country in africa in the world. and so how can present these assume being proud of being. so what developmental is we talking about, you're talking about developing threats. there is no development in news yet. one of the important comes, isn't that, and of course i am of would love them well, but would love the price. what do i mean? because he is allowing the bill for the education to continue. and that's why the people that rides enough to say if you can send up to the boys and tell them that
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the expectation cannot continue. and who present my truck in the face and say print and my grow? oh, is it okay? okay, that's my money. my budget is that my natural resources? i'm finding friends. education of funding, trying to find you out of funding frontier are, is that ok, president my good i'm to ask also can image it. they want to know. so when you tell me that it is, but by the way it makes sense. but he's definitely not driven by the people because there is no development. let's get serious here. that's still pushing guys about what's happening. that no expectation is happening is happening in is it is happening in booking. so is happening. molly is happening instead of a fricking country. let's make no mistake about the rustic i'm tired of giving up our lives to what the nation for getting children they need to into. how can children need to go to school? i'm not going to children, then go to the assistance behind all that abuse. we need to learn the western world,
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know that there are millions and children who are going hungry. millions of american children who are dying, millions of women for good women, one day and gaming, but one of the like, millions of african news unemployed. because the western world is continuing with the agenda of exploitation, exploitation, and expectation of the african continent. that era is over. well, let me come in to get the applicants and say enough is enough. this has got to stop from a practical view point that i just wanna challenge you for a minute. i think a lot of people in france who might say, hey, we've got to do some, we have an obligation to do something, see their resources is necessary. how do you get it right? because if you go to know resources coming into these countries, is that ok, or what would you advise those in the international development field to begin using as their north star and how to get this equation right? so that african grow on its own terms. but that is not necessarily cut off from the
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rest of the world. i think that's a very important place than you're asking. see, we're not asking the western countries to does, we should just cut them off. no, we're saying the part of septic relationship that is worse than countries have with african countries, has got to come to an end. we are simply saying, we do not need aid. we need trade. they must come to africa as with respect, just as, as a quote, you're dead, for example. yeah, is selling if you read new, i'm just friends. so it just sends it kilo. when the rest of the western countries, i'm buying this sam here right now, i'm at $200.20 euros. thank you. it is amazing of a nice and 9 percent of the value of the uranium is going to shrugs. in
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other words, the nation's value that shouldn't be coming to me is yet jack is wrong. it is. it is february of the highest order west simply say, come to africa and treat africans fairly. sure. and when the africans, sally, just like you trade with other nations, am yes sir. we need funding derek investments. we need our western allies. but our wisdom allies must understand africans by humans to their needs. just as important as the needs of the citizens of the western nations and basset, or we're talking a lot about france in part because these crews and the changes in government are happening and all the countries, they were part of the french colonial history in africa. and that whole story, but you know, some of the other big players in the world may be complicit in some of this as well . and i'm interested in your thoughts on the united states and how it gets it right on russia, on china,
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all of which are major players chasing the same minerals and same assets in africa . are you worried that some of the patterns and habits of the past are going to just be reinvented and that exploitation continue with china russian united states or do you see any of them doing it better than the others? as i've seen, not the realize that they could no longer continue to explore the african. i would advise all of them that this is a good time, like i used in my last interview with you, that you sent all of them to corporate timeout. if this was a basketball game, now i'm going to start with united states. the united states is actually in a very interesting position when it comes to their relationship with friends. brands is like a wounded shock. brands is like a wounded telephone's, you know, like the going say, what are you assuming with this yaks when one is stuck to bleed, you get out of the water? my advice to the united states would be drunk, is bleeding really,
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really badly. drugs is one that really, really bad me when it comes to its relationships with africa. so i would advise the united states to get out of the war to distance ourselves from the trunk runs. because you do not want the negative sentiment. really bad sentiment that the africans have about friends to believe over. do you the native states? well, i still feel that they're in a very good position to take lived in a row, and they have relationships and said the relationship. ready with africa, subject to the united united states as a bronze is bleeding, get out of the war to the nations. they already picked up and realize done. china, for example, fighting china picked up on the mistakes that were being made by the americans. the mistakes that were being made by the european. ready regions and china now was coming into african realizing that, for example, when it comes to funding, european nations would talk and talk and talk about funding. so talk about building
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an app. well, just talking about building a bridge, 10 years later, the is number, there is no airport is do, don't all kinds of run run drops and red tips up putting in order to access funding . so trying to decide to make it easy for applicant countries to access funding. so that's why you've signed a lot of interest. such a projects are being built by jeff, not because they realized when the americans, the europeans, dropping the boat and they are coming in with a different strategy. and that's what it has been is you have, which i know to was after goes to the side because bad doing things differently for one, the americans and europeans are doing. so to the united states, i say no mistakes, but the bronx is made do something different. is that your medical policy when it comes to africa and the united states still stands a very good position to when the applicants over. but this done with them the right way to failing and no more playing games. no more divide and conquer. stay away
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from the local politics. you do not need to get involved. let me just, i'm gonna consent to doug. it's all out. one child to the other, i like to say opposition party is willing, but is that children of december that fighting for them breast milk, let them fight for the month of breast milk alone without end up theaters. so the wise is better good at interfering with the electronic process is enough for a job that's a bad president because the, everybody is figuring it out. right. and then he'll become the enemy. so stop it right out of local politics to russia. again, right? yeah. is looking and so where is the west going wrong? that coming in to see a weakness last year coming during the bush and was in the inside of the not forgot in south africa in zimbabwe. let me be, i'm was a big lot o the applicant, countries that a james independence through labor, duly abrasion was russia and china coming to realize that the western world
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were on the wrong side of the question. so they come in to say if we're going to go and when these people are all about less support their struggles. because julie, let's just come in to support this for good natured when they really needed help. so you can't blame them. they found in albany and is very important because that was just, that was right, that was needed. and therefore you see that russia is being accepted because of what they have done in the past is talking to. so people are not going to forget the friends that gave me when they would need it. right. it's, it's about looking at what's going on when it's all said and done with change of the world. no more. can you continue to explain to the africans, right africans, we have gone through surgeries of beings jumping to being in orlando being done a lot during the world. does this all over as well? that's the best thing that is over. africans as say, we know,
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i know what is really going on, and if you truly want to be one, an african liter, right, that's going to survive this new pollution. you have to be an african me that, that is that in very i live and also going to be that that is a neil colonization. and also delete that. that's going to start with the people in the push back against the west, against the east, and everybody knows the things that can come to africa and, and exploits us. they can no longer work all of that anymore. and bassett, or when you and i spoke in december 2022, it was a great show and great discussion. and at that time you said that america and the white house were not showing african leaders respect, that they did not share agendas that they did this was, this was a, you know, continued policies of racism and neglect, etc. do you feel like any progress has been made in america?
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is orientation towards some of the issues you raised since last december. well, i did. i couldn't let, let me take you back to the visit to pick up by vice president a cup a couple of hers. you know, it was quite interesting that was all the issues that were going on in africa. for example, when she went to zambia, they with a much lies that were killing hundreds of people next door to my lowie. she did not go to my law. we did not even mention mallory but spend a lot of time in december. yeah. trying to push and now do be think you agenda and agenda that africans out across the continent as a, it's really not an issue for us. we have more important things to worry about. but vice president, how does spend a lot of time on the l g b? think you, i'm not saying it's not that important issue, but when it comes to the grad custom of things, i forget that telling you that this is not
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a priority for us. we grew up with people who were uh, which items we would we had down. i remember growing up in my village, we had men will segment in. they would hang around women, they did that thing, nobody kids. we had women who lived with women, we call them spanish does, and nobody can, you know, i'm go, i've seen people who are clearly gay looking and it was never an issue. so the applicants, i'm telling you that it's not the primary isn't as the web from it, but she did not listen to them. she kept watching that agenda. you know, so it's like we don't get what you think we have when i tell you what you need to do. that was disappointing, that dream from vice president. i'm coming to how this was very disappointed and i've spoken to a lot of places. there's a lot of african citizens that was very disappointed, which i position. well, let me ask you finally, ambassador, you've talked about the people and that these are many and many cases popular
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revolutions. do these military leaders really represent the people? you know, what do you see is the real stand outs that can bring a plan that can bring a strategy and actually make this popular revolution as you see it successful in to get traction? that's a very important question. and i would like to question africans as well as we go through this because listed, for example, what happened in double and i had, i don't want everybody to say push back a little bit. don't be quick to eat quits. what's happening in the bone to what's happening in the jet and book and it's also in molly and getting each situation is different. then dynamics would then be caught in what code which i call the pollution a different. yes, we'd like to see change but not every day. ready know me as well for the people, the, the board situation, you got some family issues,
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but i don't want to go there. uh, so we have to look at it and say, oh, this 3 boxes. yes, that's the bundle that we have the president. we have the why would this be the president's web as well? would that take a look at it with a critical eye? then we have the, the general's yourself, who is a family member. then we have this fixed up to be to be to the department president who is fighting with the general generally as opposed to the opposition party will not still be changed. so if there's a different dynamic in um, in the government issue, then before we button the door left be looked at in the manner in which, um the, the, the general was dressed when he was being sworn, you know, like, infringement of better west. and so we have to understand a situation very differently, but i would say in my humble opinion, this send him and coming out to book an official out of molly out of news. yet. that is to send 2 men into solid data that you are looking for. those who are
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clearly standing up in the deep denouncing neil colonization denouncing imperialism, demanding that exploitation of the continent and not wrong or continue. that is a comb on message that's coming out of those countries. i am not getting that out of government, which makes new wonder who is really behind the coal in double and we need to understand why it's been general shutting away from that such a strong message to that people. because that is what i forgot is ready for right now. that is, when can you believe sion that's taking place in africa is all about any linda does not stand for imperialism and new colonized agent on its putting an explanation of the continent that is, that lead to the applicants. i'm not going to support being to manage alita or as
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the 1000000 leader. well, audi qana g homeboy equal former in boucher, the african union to the united states is great conversation. thank you so much for joining us and thank you again for having. so what's the bottom line, despite is mass resources, it's brilliant minds and this diversity advocates. modern history is one of domination and exploitation by other powers. now we seem to be at an inflection point where some of the previous colonial overlords are losing their grass while others are trying their best to stay in. the ongoing debate and african countries is how to move forward not backward, but the internal and external challenges are huge. in a way they faced the same questions that americans are asking themselves, sir, which leader, if any, has a strategy that delivers better lives and opportunities for their citizens who will stop exploiting the politics of division and who is willing to do what it takes to earn legitimacy in the eyes of his or her own people, if and when they figure that out in africa. well,
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