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some of the cool cars started a city in front of us, but it to face with detail coverage. agribusiness is like this cattle range or the driving edge of the bolivian economy from around the world estimates battery, but it's reckoned as many as $3000.00 souls have been damaged, still completely destroyed. since the start of the war. the times time is a down in del how with a look at the headlines here and i'll just do a powerful quake is killed at least 820 people in engine hundreds more and more. all co officials are reporting significant and widespread damage across several regions. the magnitude 6.8 quake strong lights on friday night, instruct some 70 kilometers south of the popular tourist city of morocco. shocks were felt as far away as the coastal cities of robots, casablanca,
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and the swatter. for the genus, the name uh, i was visiting people in the same building on the 3rd floor. suddenly we saw things falling from above, like dishes and other things that were fix to the walls. we were unable to say to stand about and then we fled outside the home. the same as all the other people. really the quick was very strong and it looks a lot of uh, doing that i guess, you know, we were surprised by a new teens vibration. everything in the house was moving. well, we didn't know what happened. you know, as i was asleep once i saw a movement in the bed, i didn't believe it. the 2nd time i was sure it wasn't as quick as you get repeated 3 times. did it. anyway, that's a good thing. god. last then had that is a boy all consented to and full minister. he says the terrain in mountainous areas is i'm putting the rest of us it or right after the earthquake, then that a re locally rescued seems you know, all of those villages because that is what we call the civil protection. those have
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like a few kinds of means in order to deal with people trapped under the rubber. but i mean like of the others would more means that it took them a few hours before they get there. the reason why it took them a few hours, it's very kind of mountainous and also difficult to kind of train. but also when the earthquakes happen, then a lot of rubble from both sides of the, of the, of the, of the road kind of blocked the roads. and there were a lot of blockages. lead is amazing at the g 20 summit in the indian capital, new data of agreeing the joint declaration, despite differences on the war and ukraine. the communique said the g 20 is not the platform to resolve geo political issues, but its structure and you trying to ensure the deliveries of grain and all the food stuff. and climate lead is called for increased efforts to phase out fossil fuels subsidies. and the african union was invited to join as a permanent member of the g 20. katrina. you?
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this update from new delhi. we've had is quite general statements about ukraine. let me just outline a few here. they say that all nations must act in accordance with the un charles of the nation. states must refrain from acquiring sovereign territory or politically independent tote tree. and that the use of nuclear weapons is in at missed several . and the big met caveats here when it comes to this mention of the one ukraine in this declaration is that they've mentioned that dialogue and diplomacy of critical but again, that the g 20 is not really the platform to focus on to political and security issues. paul's of closed in them all. these presidential elections brought him how much all the has seeking re election for a 2nd time. he's running a game 7. all the candidates contenders from all the major parties have promised major projects despite the serious government that burden columbia and mexico, a kind of hosting a 3 day on the drug summit mexican president of us that i knew i looked at as well
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. but adult is in the city of cali, where he'll needs with columbia and later gustavo petro, representatives from 15, the latin america, them caribbean countries, all participating in the conference. rifle palestinian factions that renewed fighting and the ottoman hedwood camp in southern lebanon, 2 sides had agreed to as a saw, but finding a routed once again on saturday morning. its been escalating violence between the 2 groups for the list of youth. north korea has held a permanent tree for rates of boxes. founding day came german hosted a high level delegation from china to observe the parade. these pledge to expands in strength and ties were both aging and moscow police and the case a vague. the rest of the form, a soldier who escaped from a london prison, nadia this week, daniel alief, i was facing terror related charges that was all the headlines and these continues of to the bottom line.
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the hi, i'm steve clements and i have a couple of questions. what's driving the spring of military coups in africa? and what does it mean for western policy across the continent? let's get to the bottom line. the 7, that's the number of countries in africa where people woke up one day to find that their president was ousted and that their military had taken over. and that's just since 2020, just in the last 3 years, we're talking about molly chad. guinea sued in regina paso these year and kept bone, since most of the crews are in former french colonies. francis had the biggest wake up call of all western powers. but the wheels are turning in washington as well,
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especially since russia and china are also big players in the region. so what type of changes across the continent mean for the people in africa and for relations between africa and the west? what note should washington be taking? today we're talking with audi, kind of t homeboy qual, the former ambassador of the african union to the united states and master. it's such a pleasure to be with you again. i've always enjoyed our conversations and learn from them. i just want to ask you in the west when you look at these countries, molly? chad, guinea sudan, burkina faso got bohn, new share. the west looks at this like maybe there is a problem going on here. how do you look at it? or that is a serious problem for me. it was for sure. i think the words did not seem to kind of oh and, but it was very naive of the wisdom nations. just saying that the exploitation of africa was going to continue unabated for ever. the west is definitely,
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i may use the word that sometimes they may be dissing in deadlines because what's happening in africa is indeed the pollution. and the reason that's the way past due . so you see it is a revolution. what kind of revolution is it in the sense that, um, do you think this is throwing off repression from france, from united states, from other nations? what kind of revolution do you see is underway? what i like to think is i want to use the book on tim, this is the light shit. and revelation among black people. they're waking up and realizing that what it has been happening is wrong is wrong, is wrong and change, you must come and for to change to come. it must be broad by, by the people. what you asked me is, and i can electronic that is now i walk in that is informed the understand the real issues in the past also can have been missed and phone misled and given false
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information and being thrown a shiny object and being told only applicant is of the problem, but now the end of been the invisible hand and the wrong. the invisible hand is plain to make sure that i forgot remains where they weren't. i forgot to beat the applicant heads of states. but typically those uh, heads of states from the, for my friends come use majority of them with just products put in place to continue this same trying to, i guess it was best selling books to them is where it said you have no control of your military you have no control of your natural resources. you have no control of your finances. and if you continue from those 3 areas, you are afraid to will your country any which way you want. what forward does that prison yet? and in the past and the president does it try to bug the system and do something about taking control of the financial resources. and i'm talking about african
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countries deposit to the bank reserves with friends. i'm talking about african countries giving up their natural resources. nobody addition drawn instead of being fed selective refusal for all the natural resources this company is yet to be discovered. drug companies, everything fits right of refusal on contracts, large small private, public around $70000000.00. try to prisons in those countries and friends having been to invent them in the event that they feel the interest of being violated from making sure that those countries can only be trained by from the military. can only be trained by froze. the uh, the, the equipment in the equipment can only be bought from friends. come on. what people didn't understand. oh, this is so we can change absent and add those dates in those for my friend to come to me like we change clothes and dogs spend a mental, i'm not, i'm dread, nothing is going to change the africans now understand when the real problem is the
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real problem, like i've always city the biggest risk to peace and security and after draft is friends. let's make no mistake about that. we have as a former color nice as yes they still have as to hold enough for god to that. they're multinational companies that continue to say on billions, i just, i forgot every year. we are way of that. but the biggest problem when it comes to form of physical and is, is trends it's roads as so in change, in those countries. an up front is trying to expand into other nations until we address those agreements. african countries with pose to say nothing. and i mean, nothing we do is going to bring us, did you economically better asian, which is what africa needs, which is what i think i was denied when in countries were being given their independence. we're now dealing with an african loved 3rd that understand what is really going on in africa. well, let me ask you, ambassador,
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let's take me here for a moment. the president mohammed by zoom is a popular president in the west. you know, the, i in mass like them, the world bank liked them, the united states liked them. france seemed to like him. i would like our listeners to understand the gap in the popularity of someone like president by zoom and performance and, and, and what is going on that makes that revolution, that, that clue is, we see it in the share, a different story than we're seeing. it depends on the is that you're talking about is the performance of what it is. yep. does it mean that it was doing defense education to friends go to differentiate infrastructure. you tell me why is it that 95 percent of new jersey and uranium is powering over 50 percent of file of friends while over 70 percent of these yet and has no electricity. how is
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that? okay. oh and isn't brendan, but zoom out of himself with that 5. there is no development in in the, in the army. i was in the army a few years ago when we had the i use, i mean, it was beautiful. this is the level of development that media has that is not development image yet. let's make no mistake about the news yet. it's been before is the country in africa in the world. and so how can present these assume being proud of being? so what developmental is we talking about? you're talking about developing threats. there is no development in these yet. one of the importance comes as an ad, and of course i am of would love them well, but would love the prize. what do i mean? because he is allowing the patient to continue. and that's why the people that rides enough to say if you can send up to the boys and tell them that the
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expectation cannot continue. and who present my truck in the face and say, present my grow. oh, is it ok? ok, that's my money. my benefit is that my natural resources have funding for education of funding trying to find you out of funding frontiers. what's that out? is that ok, president my good i'm to ask also can image it. they want to know. so when you tell me that it is, but by the way, it makes sense, but he's definitely not driven by the people because there is no development that's been serious yet. that's still pushing guys about what's happening. that no expectation is happening is happening in new jersey is happening in booking, so it's happening monthly. it's happening instead of a fricking country. let's make no mistake about the west, sick and tired of giving up our lives to what the nation. also getting children they need to into how can children need to go to school? i'm not going to children then go to the assistance behind all that abuse. we need
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to learn the western world, know that they're millions and children who are going hungry. millions of public and children who are dying, millions of women for good women, one day and gaming, but one of the like, millions of african news unemployed. because the western world is continuing with the agenda of exploitation, exploitation, and expectation of the african continent. that era is over well in the coming together as applicants and say enough is enough. this has got to stop from a practical view point that i just wanna challenge you for a minute. i think a lot of people in france who might say, hey, we've got to do some, we have an obligation to do something, see their resources is necessary. how do you get it right? because if you go to know resources coming into these countries, is that ok, or what would you advise those in the international development field to begin using as their north star and how to get this equation right? so that african grow on its own terms. but that is not necessarily cut off from the
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rest of the world. i think that's a very important place than you're asking. see, we're not asking the western countries to does, we should just cut them off. no, we're saying the part of septic relationship that is worse than countries have with african countries, has got to come to an end. we are simply saying, we do not need aid. we need trade. they must come to africa just as with respect to us as a quote you did, for example, new j is selling. if you read new, i'm just friends. so it just sends it kilo. when the rest of the western countries, i'm buying this sam here right now, i'm at $200.20 euros. thank you. it is amazing of a nice and 9 percent of the value of the uranium is going to strong. in other words,
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the nation's value that shouldn't be coming to me is yet that is wrong. it is, it is february of the highest or that was simply say, come to africa and treat africans fairly. sure. and when the africans, sally, just like you trade with other nations. and yes, sir, when mean putting direct investments? we need our western allies. but what's an allies must understand africans by humans to their needs, just as important as the needs of those citizens of the western nations. and baset are, we're talking a lot about france in part because these crews and the changes in government are happening and all the countries, they were part of the french colonial history in africa. and that whole story. but you know, some of the other big players in the world may be complicit in some of this as well . and i'm interested in your thoughts on the united states and how it gets it right on russia,
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on china. all of which are major players chasing the same minerals and same assets in africa. are you worried that some of the patterns and habits of the past are going to just be reinvented and that exploitation continue with china russian united states or do you see any of them doing it better than the others? as i've seen not done, they realize that they could no longer continue to exploit the african. i would advise all of them that this is a good time, like i used in my life interview with you. that is the same for all of them to call but timeout. if this was a basketball game, now i'm going to start with the united states. the united states is actually in a very interesting position when it comes to dad. relationship with friends. brands is like a wounded shack. bronze is like a wooden elephant and you know, like the going say, what are you assuming with this youngest one is stuff to bleed you get out of the water? my advice to the united states would be, trump is bleeding really,
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really badly. drugs is one that. busy really bad me when it comes to it's relationships with africa. so i would advise the united states to get out of the war to distance ourselves from the trunk friends. because you do not want the negative sentiment. really bad sentiment that they forget about friends to believe over to you, the united states. well, i still feel that they're in a very good position to take and lived in a row. and they have relationships and said relationships with africa, subject to the united united states as a product is leading, get out of the war to the nation, the things up and realized on china. for example, 5 china picked up on the mistakes that were being made by the americans. the mistakes that were being made by the european nations and china not was coming into african realizing that for example, when it comes to funding european nations would talk and talk and talk about funding. so talk about building an app or the about building
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a bridge. 10 years later, the is number, there is no airport is due to all kinds of run run drops and red tips up putting in order to access funding. so cannot decide to make it easy for applicant countries to access funding. so that's why you've signed a lot of interest. such a projects are being built by john, not because they realized when the americans, the europeans, dropping the boat and they are coming in with a different strategy. and that's what it just been easier for china to was up against the side because bad doing things different. ready for one, the americans and europeans are doing. so to is the united states. i say look at the new stage, but ross is made do something different than the american policy when it comes to africa. and the united states still stands a very good position to wind africans over. but this done when the right way to the family and no more playing games, no more divide and conquer. stay away from the local politics. you do not need to,
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gretchen, but let's just pretend sensors, doug, it's all out one child to the other. i like to say opposition. fact is really part is that children of december, the fighting for their breast milk. let them fight for the month of breast milk alone without interviews. so do you guys have very good at interfering with the electronic process is enough for a job. that's a bad president because the everybody's been cutting it out. right. and then you become the enemy. so stop it right out of local politics. russia again, right? yeah, is looking. and so what is the west going wrong that coming in this we a weakness last year coming during the bus and was in the inside. the not forgot in south africa in zimbabwe. let me be, i'm was a big lot o the applicant, countries that i changed independence through labor through liberation was russia
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and trying to come in and realize that the western world were on the wrong side of the bridge. and so they come in to say, if we're going to go and when these people are all about less support their struggles. because julie was to come in to support these upper good natured when they really needed help. so you can't blame them. they found in albany and is very important because that was just, that was right, that was needed. and therefore you see that russia is being accepted because of what they have done in the past is talking to. so people are not going to forget the friends that gave me when they would need it. right. it's, it's about looking at what's going on. but the one is all said and done with change of the world. no more. can you continue to expedite to the africans? right. i'm thinking we have gone through surgeries of beings jumping to be as not end up being done a lot during the world. just piece all over as well. that's that period is over. africans as say, we know i know what is really going on,
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and if you truly want to be one, an african liter, right, that's going to survive this new pollution. you have to be an african me that that is, i'm in very elusive and also good lead that is, i'm near the station and also to lead that that's gonna start with the people in the i push back against the west against the, if anybody knows the things that can come to africa and, and explain to us they can no longer work all of that anymore. and bassett or so when you and i spoke in december 2022, it was a great show and great discussion. and at that time you said that america and the white house were not showing african leaders respect, that they did not share agendas that they did this with. this was a, you know, continued policies of racism and neglect, etc. do you feel like any progress has been made in america? is orientation toward some of the issues you raised since last december?
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well, i like and let me take you back to the visit to pick up by vice president a cup a couple of hers. you know, it was quite interesting that was all the issues that were going on in africa. for example, when she went to zambia, they with a much lies that were killing hundreds of people next door to malawi. she did not go to my law. we did not even mention mallory, but spend a lot of time in zambia, trying to push and now do be thank you agenda and agenda that africans out across the continent as a it's really not an issue for us. we have more important things to worry about, but vice president, how does spend a lot of time on the l g b? think you, i'm not saying it's not an important issue, but when it comes to the grid, custom of things, the africans, i telling you that this is not a priority for us. we grew up with people who were,
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would trans, we would, we had down. i remember growing up in my village, we had men will segment in they would hang around, women that did that thing. nobody kid. we had women who lived with women, we call them spanish does, and nobody can, you know, i'm go, i've seen people who are clearly gay looking and it was never an issue. so the applicants, i'm telling you that it's not the primary isn't as the web from it, but she did not listen to them. she kept watching that agenda. you know, so it's not, we don't get what you think we have when i tell you what you need to do. that was disappointing, that dream from vice president. i'm coming to how it was very disappointed. and i've spoken to a lot of places. there's a lot of african citizens that was very disappointed, which had position. well, let me ask you finally, ambassador, you've talked about the people and that these are many, in many cases,
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popular revolutions to these military leaders really represent the people. you know, what do you see is the real stand outs that can bring a plan that can bring a strategy and actually make this popular revolution as you see it successful in to get traction. it does have an important question. and i would like to caution africans as well as we go through this because listed, for example, what happened in the one i had, i want everybody to say push back a little bit. don't be quick to eat quiz. what's happening in the bone to what's happening in the jet and because i saw in molly and getting each situation is different, then dynamics would then be caught in what code which i call the police in a different. yes, we like to see change, but not every general means. well, for the people, the, the bar scituate sion, you've got some family issues that i don't want to go there. uh,
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so we have to look at it and say, oh, this 3 boxes. yes, that's the bundle that we have the president, we have the why would this be the president's wife as well? would that take a look at it with a critical eye? then we have the uh, the general yourself, who is a family member? then we have this fixed up to be to be to the department president who is signing with the general, generally, as opposed to the opposition party will not still be changed. so if there's a different dynamic in um, in the government issue, then before we bundle it all up, you look at it then they might not anyway just the, the, the general was just when he was being sworn. he. ready like a frenchman of better west and so we have to understand a situation very differently. but i would say in my humble opinion, they send a men coming out to coconut for so out of molly, out of news yet, that is to send 2 men into solid data g that you are looking for. those who are
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clearly standing up in the deep denouncing no colonization denouncing imperialism, demanding that expectation of the continent and not wrong or continue. that is a comb on message that's coming out of those countries. i am not getting that out of government, which makes new wonder who is really behind the coal in double and we need to understand why it's been generally shutting away from that such a strong message to the people. because that is what i forgot is ready for right now. that is when can you believe sion that's taking place in africa is all about any linda does not stand on that imperialism and you apologize, agent. i'm putting an explanation of the content and that is that lead to the applicants. i'm not going to support being to manage either later or
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a civilian need to. well audi qana g homeboy equal former in boucher, the african you needed. the united states is great conversation. thank you so much for joining us. and thank you again for having. so what's the bottom line? despite is mass resources, it's brilliant minds and this diversity africans. modern history is one of domination and exploitation by other powers. now we seem to be at an inflection point where some of the previous colonial overlords are losing their grass while others are trying their best to stay in. the ongoing debate in african countries is how to move forward not backward, but the internal and external challenges are huge. in a way, they faced the same questions that americans are asking themselves, sir, which leader, if any, has a strategy that delivers better lives and opportunities for their citizens? who will stop exposing the politics of division and who's willing to do what it takes to earn a legitimacy in the eyes of his or her own people, if and when they figure that out in africa. well,
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