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binding of helping his son with his business dealings. others with headlines the stream is next. the government challenges here with the welcome to the stream. i'm josh rushing. time is running out to save several major lakes across the world that are risk of drawing up the crisis to so urgent the scientist warrant that some could disappear well in just a few years. now that was spelled disaster for communities and wild life. so today we look at 3 legs that are rapidly shrinking and ask what action is needed to guarantee their future. the

so to examine this emergency, we are joined by ally, margie is an assistant professor at oklahoma state university. and it's been looking at the shrinking like an a ron name like irma. yeah. he's in the us city of stillwater, oklahoma, and salt lake city. we have currently beautiful. she's a coordinator at the great salt lake institute and is examined how long life has been affected by the roshan of utah's great salt lake. and then tell it beep israel we have yeah, al key ro, she is the assistant professor at the weisman institute of science in his research, the dead sea in the jordan river valley. hello to everyone. carly, let's start off with you because the great salt lake has been in the news here recently. can you tell us what's going on with it? yeah, so great salt lake is like you're saying one of those lakes that are shrinking. and we're expecting that there's the eco system collapse within the next 5 years. but what's wild is this has not been, this is not

a new problem. it's been going on for years and years and years, but it's something that is just on people's radar. and so it's, there's a lot of action that we're hoping to to happen to get this lake to not be so small. and, you know, the lake is going down, but even just a couple of inches with the lake elevation will change the ecosystem drastically. so it's a kind of a day by day thing that we're monitoring, that when you say ecosystem collapse, what would that look like? they're yeah. so what's interesting about great salt lake is there's, it's a, a small eco system where there's, there's not a ton of things that are at the lake themselves. but the lake has about $10000000.00 birds that come to it every year for their migration stop. and so if there isn't these brine, shrimp, or these brand flies, these tiny little organisms in the lakes and the birds would not be able to use the

lakes for their migration. and again, we're talking millions and millions of birds that use this place. so in terms of the eco system, if it can't hold all of these animals, then they just, they just won't be there anymore. ally you what's going on with lake or mia. busy baker, me yeah. like totally was uh, talking about the ecosystem collapse of the great salt lake lake room. it has already experienced that phase to a large extent. this is a lake that's a home to brian tree and our team. yeah. which is the only places this trip is found and then a migratory birds feed off of it. and this lake has uh, basically uh, pretty much disappeared at this point. and we're talking about a major lake, you know, by some accounts, the 2nd largest sally lake in the world. and so it's not like a multi puddle. it's about the size of the state in the state of delaware,

in the us or half the size of cat tower for those who want to put the size in perspective. and this whole eco system is disappearing. and, and this other, the, the legs that you know, could, could attract a lot of, you know, people to visit for a tourism and other activities are starting into a, a threat as opposed to providing ecosystem services. it's supposed to, well it's making a tourism. the dead sea attracts a lot of tourism in and has for probably century is up not longer. yeah. what's happening there now? and so the density lake level is dropping for the past decade and a rate of more than one meter per year. so this is a very fast lake level drop. and um, it is affecting mainly the, or one of the major industries that are affect, affected by this is the to reason that on the dead sea, because the shar is the going away. and in order to have any kind of

commercial beach over there, you need to maintain a road. and as you can see here on the and these video videos, the lake level drop is the causing the formation of seeing calls, which doesn't allow anything, any tourism along the shore at, at this, at this stage because it is too dangerous. so that i know we have a long history of the dead sea. has it ever gone through this kind of contraction before for? yeah, so there were some times that were very dry in this region that the lake level was even lower than what it is today. 10000 years ago and about 120000 years ago. but uh, it never dropped in this uh, and this rate. so what we're seeing now is a very fast lake level job that is affected by the human activity

and the which he lives. ation of the different water resources that used to flow into the lake. and uh, um and uh, also uh the lake level drop is contributed by the different tape bought dash industries that are pumping the brian out of the lake. yeah, i've got to, you mentioned that cuz my initial assumption on this was climate change. but in each one of these lakes, as i looked into it, that didn't seem to be the main corporate. what's happening there in utah currently with with the like, why is it dropping? yeah, you're totally right. and it's interesting because, you know, climate change, utah, we live in a super drive, place the drought, it doesn't help. but really a lot of the water that should be going to the lake is getting diverted to agriculture, to communities, um to lots of different places. so all of the rivers that should be flowing into great salt lake are going elsewhere. and i was that the same situation of like,

oh my god, this has things like that could have been changed as well. busy the, there is there a remarkable similarities would be like, great salt lake and lake room. yeah. and not only about the major causes of the league system collapse of, you know, that the 2 legs are, are very similar in nature about the depth, you know, the, the water strap, you know, the drainage base and they're elevation and everything. and just like in the case of the great salt salt lake and lake room. yeah, we have dealt with a large number of dam construction projects and a rapid agricultural expansion projects and poor water management that has shopped this river of up and deprived of the water it needs to survive because this is essentially a terminal lake. so it's like a your bowl of a serial that you're going to use in the morning. so if you don't. busy uh, keep feeding the lake with water. evaporation is going to counter that all the

water that, that, that comes in and you start losing lake volume and lake area. this is exactly what's happened in the lake room. yeah. and there's been agricultural demand that's been rolling and there is a widening gap between water supply and demand and so base and as the basement is essentially water bankrupt. so we have exceeded the hydrologic carrying capacity of the base and to support those human activities. and also sustain and maintain this great salts, the ecosystem, and the lake, and with all the services that it provide. so our are you, are we at a tipping point with like our me that it's can't come back or we have practically reached that tipping point. but again, this is a system that in geological time scales has survived. so we have the, let the system work as it would naturally. so the, the lake can accumulate the water that it needs that it can, it can come back up. and, and that if, if you're able, that's

a very big f because of all these human activities and all the economic activities surrounding the how the water was diverted and the new agricultural activities a that are being supported by that but by that waters. but if we manage to get the water back into the legs, the legs can come back. maybe, you know, in a, in a, in a gradual state and not, not over, not, not within the next a couple years but, but eventually there, there was hope. so we're not completely giving up on the future of this lake and there actually had been major lakes that it disappeared. impacted was one down in bolivia, lake purple. let me here. check this out. seems to be who are the people that being left with outlines we trusted in late group of our parents trusted in the lake that it would stay forever. but it didn't. the lake dried up, all of a sudden and left us without the job doing visits and they have to get up where we have been often we have no jobs or sources of employment. where do we go? where do we find a job?

we being forced to become prickly as they labor as well. the hood capital for other people. it hasn't been easy. uh yeah. what's the timeline on the dead sea there? how many years are you looking at if it keeps going at this rate? so we still have time in order to save it because like the other 2 lakes that we're discussing here the, the day to lake is about 300 meters deep. so um we still have uh some, some way to go before it is completely uh, dried dried up. so we have a place to century and probably much more than that. the defense um the house last the industries will come to the brine. and if the more, if fresh water resources will be used by the people leaving in the,

around the lake. so, um, but it's the same, the same issue as ali said the before at it's a, it's a, it's all a matter of this balance between the fresh water resources that used to flow into the legs and the evaporation. and if you are comfortable to somehow have a decision or a plan that is made international lever love at national level to save these a, these lakes, and you can bring some of the water back, then you can stylize these lakes on um, on a staple lake level and carly, in the great salt lake is not as deep as the dead sea. right. you, you recently went out there and we have some photos you shared with us. we kind of walk us through what we're looking at. i'm going to share these photos with, from my computer here. and what are we looking at?

yeah, so these are my crow the lights and you should be under water when they're healthy . they are. they kind of look like, like to her like astro turf. it's the screen and fluffy map full of life. and so you know what, one of our students here, we're trying to find that life there, but it's just, it's just not there right now. and so again, all of that should be under water. so for us, you know, again just a couple of inches, we could be such a big issue and it is interesting to hear um yeah, i'll talk about the timeline for the judge be because that's where great salt lake was where, you know, we were trying to push the issue of it's trying, it's trying help help help. but then you know, now that we're at just a couple of years now that it's like such a, a bigger issue. but i had to wish that it was being talked about in this way. 10 plus years ago. and you know, i think one is about brine shrimp. maybe people don't find it as compelling,

but we're talking about a lot more than just brine shrimp actually. and this is kevin perry. he's a professor of atmospheric scientist at the university of utah. alpha lake has receded. it has exposed more than 800 square miles of lake bed. and just to put that into perspective, 800 square miles is about the same surface area as the island of maui in hawaii. and this expos lake bed. when the, when the strong and the lake bed is dry, it listen dust off of this lake bed and pushes it into the surrounding communities . if you breathe that dust over an extended period of time, like decades or longer, then it can lead to increases and different types of cancer, like lung cancer, bladder cancer, cardiovascular, disease, diabetes, and such. so when you start to hear health concerns like that for humans, has that elevated the concern of the health of the lake there and salt lake city?

absolutely. you know, i talk about the brian fly and there larva not doing well, and i'm like see the fly, save the flies and, you know, people nod but it, it doesn't really strikes them. but any time you talked about somebody's own health in their community, um it's, this is, it's dire which it is, and that's what we want it. but once, you know, once it becomes a problem to me, once it becomes problem to my family, that's when people start to care. so, you know, we're happy that it's something that is being talked about and there's more changes that are happening. and there's, there's more to it then, then just the, just as well with that eco system as a, as a scientist. that's what a biologist, that's what i'm mostly concerned about. but now is there, is there a movement in iran to try to reverse the course with lake or mia as well. busy lake or me as a shriek, as was uh, literally uh, in a more moments of awakening in, in

a garage, environmental activism like people are paying a lot of attention to the, to the face of this lake. and people actually care more about the environmental issues in general because, you know, the media is covering the, the issues more and of course, you know, for a long time just touching uh the, the issue of the major cause of, of these uh dislike is. busy the way, uh, you know, there was confusion about the major cause, you know, was it, is it climate driven? is it something that we are doing to mess up the system? and uh, for a long time uh that the predominant narrative was that, you know, climate change is responsible for this like that, disappearing and, but we've, we've done our analyses, you know, the water water balance analysis. and we've done computer simulations removing all the dams that were built on in the space and, and, and we have shown that if you, if you do, these dams were built in the numbers. they are. busy you know, the lake would have survived, it would, it would never fall below the ecological threshold that's been designated. busy for

it, although it would have the, the natural fluctuations of drought hands of the fact that, you know, there are, there is evidence from other lakes around the. busy there are similar legs in, in other countries that they've not only not declined and they have actually gained some area and, and, and that's the very good evidence to show that, you know, we really have to revisit how we're managing these legs. if we are serious about keeping them for, for us and for future generations to enjoy them as well. are those dams for producing power or for creating other lakes for donald lee, their, their bill to supply irrigation water and, and with that have come, you know, a change in propping pattern. so there is more water henry crops and you know, whatever you've. busy the dam, you've planned for some plan for it to support some activities. and of course those demands form around that. so basically, or overloading a base in a, you know,

with the, with the new demand that you create to the point that he can, we can artificially create this water bankrupt system. and at that point, things become very difficult to manage. and we have seen that on the fold in lake or me a basin. so yeah, it strikes me that with the other 2 likes in question here, there are easier political solutions and perhaps in dealing in the area of the world a year in can you talk about some of the politics around trying to say the, the, the density or at least change the courses on so the water resources into the dead sea, they are all between the jordan palestine and israel. so uh and the um, and this is a region that is very stressed in terms in terms of, um, um, in terms of water resources, it's relatively dry and the population is that it's crowded. so every

drop of water that is flowing in the jordan river, someone needs it and need to use it. so any. so if you will be able to have any decision on a national or any agreement between these, the different states, you will need a very it in collaboration and agreements that add to let the water flow into the jordan river and then flow into into the dead sea and, and as you probably know, this region has a political issues that are not on the that the water issues in this, in this region. so it is definitely complicated. sure. it was looking at our youtube audience and there there's a lot of talk about recycled water. sounds like a brilliant idea to me says our art ed mohammed. it's

a new c says recycled water is not a new concept as part of water conservation. we have a video comment from a water conservation is named man's or wind window, who is in cashmere. check this out. you know what a beautiful cascade we have sounded by taking rooms of mountains and vanities. unfortunately, the beauty of rec, chance and water borders from last declared slot in shambles is time for the united of thoughts to suit their people as part a suspicion is must or need to bring consciousness sauce in all work behavior door to somebody in a way to make my dream is to shift the golden fishes daughter's just touching shut out. i have to sign my going to to bar dispatch. and these for the rewards and rex inch. and carla, we have another video comment. this is from a journalist of the navajo times named alice thoroughly that. so i that i, that i want to share and get you to comment afterwards around coverage to

prevent the class of the great salt lake is inclusive of indigenous places and how to make salt lake isn't incest, of the body of water to do the people which is where i'm from the navigation or the you, it goes, you or the sicilian people, and i feel like those conversations from what i've been gathering in the community here is the best thing. and those conversations need to be amplified and centered because what's preventing the lake from going from ecological class? we need to be at the table to offer solutions to the community. so currently i obviously was saying basically that he feels like the indigenous people are at the table. the tribes, he mentioned, the youth that you're showing, the navajo is, is that the case? what's happening there? yeah, i mean, i agree we have, we have contacts with those tribes, but it is a, it is a missing piece of the puzzle for sure. and i know that with some like tech teams

of different committees that are run through state agencies, we've been pushing to get those indigenous voices to be a part of those groups which they're not right now. so, i mean, i don't, i don't have the solution because it, there's so many factors, but i completely agree that there is, is a missing piece. and a hole in this, in this puzzle. and it's a community that needs to be the um, at the table like alistair was saying, so i know that there's some things in place to get that ball rolling, but it's nowhere near. we need to be right now. i like you talked to us about some recommendations for solutions as well. what other recommendations was the brought up by one of the viewers? you know, it's a, it's essential to, uh, you know, not use, uh, water is a disposable product, you know, in, in other words, we need to treat the waste water and make sure it gets to the lake, you know,

in anything that can help us increase the water supply into the lake is going to be a major part of the solution. and another obvious piece is reducing water consumption in agricultural areas, you know, with using better irrigation technology, higher efficiency irrigation technology, and also making sure that the water savings there actually are used to revive the leg and not going to new agricultural land expansion and create you know, contributing to increasing consumptive water use in the, in the base and, and as open bought. the bottom line is we have to recognize the rights of these legs. and you know, the environmental rights of these legs as, as, as a user of water. and as important as social ecological systems, and uh, make sure that they get the water they need. why and then let me just been, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, i just want to know like how do you tell people that this actually matters,

that it's important? like what's the big why as well. busy the public health aspect as a major deal and in the last economic opportunities the, the. busy prism that's gone a, that's a big deal and, and people, uh, you know, that these lakes have important, important says in, in, in the pop culture, you know, in the, in the, you know, the people have created memories around these legs and in but, but essentially, you know this is a side of how, how well you can manage. busy busy a natural resource and, and it's a perfect perfect indication of a collapsing water, governess structure. of course, in the case of that c, things are a lot more complicated because we have, you have the trans boundary elements and, and, and the complex and everything. but you know, we're talking about in, in the case of great site, well salt lake or lake or mia. these are, you know, close. busy all these bases are located within the jurisdiction of one single country. i mean, of course, you know that the water government is going to be,

have hazard or there's a, there are many, many different agencies involved but has to. busy at least stakeholders have not been engaged in how the development path was, was being envisions. and in the case of labor, mia, you know, there was a, a, an obviously water dependent tap that. busy you know, took this lake away from all. busy people. busy in that region who cared about it and, and other people that, that sought value in, in, in wanting to visit an in far away city is that there's a lot of they didn't want up. they don't want to deal with the dust storms and, and the health effects of it. so, i mean there, there is a lot of the good intention to and reason to, to want to uh. busy 5, these i know that's a compelling argument. alley i, i want to thank you and you know, and partly for being on the show today. and then one of the most important things we've heard here about these lakes that are disappearing is it can be changed and it's actually man made issue. so if we can just use the water little more smartly, we can actually have maybe a different future on this. so look,

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